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Galaxy nexus and AT&T?

If we buy the Verizon version, unlocked, will it work on AT&T? Is this going to be an option, or just importing it from uk etc?

Could of swore i read somewhere that att's lte will work on a slightly different mhz that it won't be compatible with verizon's lte, someone correct me if im wrong.

ekerbuddyeker said:
If we buy the Verizon version, unlocked, will it work on AT&T? Is this going to be an option, or just importing it from uk etc?
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peachpuff said:
Could of swore i read somewhere that att's lte will work on a slightly different mhz that it won't be compatible with verizon's lte, someone correct me if im wrong.
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The "AT&T" one, which at the moment is the same as the "world" version will NOT work on VZW.
As of now there are 2 models of the Galaxy Nexus: 1) CDMA/LTE (for Verizon in the USA) and 2) GSM/HSPA+ (for the rest of the world, yes including AT&T and T-mo in the USA).
As of now, there are no GSM/LTE versions (I'm assuming this is what you're looking for on AT&T). If you use the GN on AT&T, it will have HSPA+, but not LTE. And no, the VZW version will not be able to be unlocked and used with an AT&T LTE SIM card, because AT&T is only operating data on LTE, and you'd get no voice/text (assuming you somehow got the device unlocked to accept the SIM in the first place).
Unless Samsung/Google have some kinda curveball lined up to announce a 3rd model with GSM/LTE for AT&T, that will come in the future. As of now we're not aware of this model.

martonikaj said:
And no, the VZW version will not be able to be unlocked and used with an AT&T LTE SIM card, because AT&T is only operating data on LTE, and you'd get no voice/text (assuming you somehow got the device unlocked to accept the SIM in the first place).
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You are correct in saying the Verizon Galaxy Nexus will not work with an AT&T SIM. However, the reason you provided is incorrect. Currently, both AT&T and Verizon operate data only LTE networks. Neither provide LTE voice (Voice Over LTE aka VoLTE) but both plan to (Verizon in 2012 and AT&T in 2013). Whether or not the Galaxy Nexus can take advantage of VoLTE is another open question but it will be able to use CDMA voice either way.
The real reason your Galaxy Nexus will not work on the AT&T network is the LTE frequency bands are different as well as the obvious 2G and 3G CDMA/GSM incompatibilities. A Verizon Galaxy Nexus with the an AT&T SIM (assuming you can unlock the device) will never be able to find the AT&T network. Hopefully, future devices will offer software programmable radios that can be unlocked to interoperate on multiple bands. There are plans for some 43 LTE bands worldwide!!!

So I'm guessing that by the same token in Canada, if your with bell, getting the LTE version is pointless?
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ianwood said:
You are correct in saying the Verizon Galaxy Nexus will not work with an AT&T SIM. However, the reason you provided is incorrect. Currently, both AT&T and Verizon operate data only LTE networks. Neither provide LTE voice (Voice Over LTE aka VoLTE) but both plan to (Verizon in 2012 and AT&T in 2013). Whether or not the Galaxy Nexus can take advantage of VoLTE is another open question but it will be able to use CDMA voice either way.
The real reason your Galaxy Nexus will not work on the AT&T network is the LTE frequency bands are different as well as the obvious 2G and 3G CDMA/GSM incompatibilities. A Verizon Galaxy Nexus with the an AT&T SIM (assuming you can unlock the device) will never be able to find the AT&T network.
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Thanks for a little more information, but I said just as much. Even if you somehow got it unlocked to accept a different LTE SIM card (don't think it'd ever happen), there are several reasons why the phone wouldn't work. Even if they did have the same LTE frequencies exactly (or you hacked it on), he wouldn't get any GSM functionality out of the VZW device.
Basically what I was trying to express is that the other things could theoretically be overcome with software/firmware hacks (VZW and ATT will operate in the same spectrum, just slightly different frequencies), whereas you can't ever overcome the fact that the CDMA does you no good on the AT&T network.
Overall I think the point has been made regardless...

dont forget sprint and other cdma carriers in US

Wind Mobile Canada Galaxy Nexus Stock Radio

Hey guys need your help here. I know Wind Mobile Canada released Galaxy Nexus on February 3rd and I want to know what Baseband/Radio stock Wind phone has. Simply go under settings>about phone>baseband version
Thanks in advance.

Baseband I9250UGKL1

thank I will change my baseband.

enkoopa said:
Baseband I9250UGKL1
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I picked up my GN in april.
The baseband is I9250UGLA4

UGLC1 gives me the best reception.Usually +6-8 dbm above UGLA4

brianisme said:
UGLC1 gives me the best reception.Usually +6-8 dbm above UGLA4
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How did you get the GSM i9250 working on Wind? I'm trying to find a T-mobile version with AWS 1700/2100.

KDKid said:
How did you get the GSM i9250 working on Wind? I'm trying to find a T-mobile version with AWS 1700/2100.
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Its called a pentaband phone for a reason.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

A phone could an infa-band, but if it hasn't got AWS 1700/2100, it's useless to me. Other forums, sites and Wind have said the T-mobile (AWS) version is the only one that'll work. If the penta band version includes AWS frequencies, that'll be the reason it works.

Look up pentaband. There is no T-Mobile galaxy nexus.
It will work. Not really sure how that isn't clear by the number of people using the galaxy nexus on T-Mobile.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

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A phone could an infa-band, but if it hasn't got AWS 1700/2100, it's useless to me. Other forums, sites and Wind have said the T-mobile (AWS) version is the only one that'll work. If the penta band version includes AWS frequencies, that'll be the reason it works.
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There are only 5 3G frequencies that cell phones use (outside of Japan): 850, 900, AWS, 1900, 2100. If a device is called "penta-band", that means it supports networks that work on any of those 5 specific frequencies, not 5 random frequencies. With tri-band and quad-band devices, it's a different story, as there could be multiple versions of devices, but a penta-band device covers all the bands.
On a separate note, thread move to Q&A.

Does anybody know where to find Radio images for Galaxy Nexus?
Thank you,

haipa said:
Does anybody know where to find Radio images for Galaxy Nexus?
Thank you,
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345

GNEX HSPA vs I9250 any difference??

So i purchased the GNEX I9250 (international version) im just wondering whats the difference in hardware from the US HSPA version

I believe they are identical.

They're both HSPA. That means the network they run on.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Apex

The international one is hspa+ too.
They are the exact same phone, they are both the I9250.
The only different ones are the Verizon and sprint ones. (Cdma/lte)

great thanks for the input, i was doubting my self if i purchased the correct one, im running mine on T-mobile

rsegura77 said:
great thanks for the input, i was doubting my self since if i purchased the correct one, im running mine on T-mobile
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Don't worry it'll work fine. I was using mine on T-Mobile while I was in America for the last month and had no problems. While I had T-Mobile signal anyway but that's another story and not a problem with my phone more of a problem with American carriers.

I also have small question. I just got my Galaxy Nexus direct from google. When loking at the ROM threads and whatnot, should i be using the GSM roms? Are they for the international version only, or are they safe to use on my straight google nexus.
Just didn't know if their was anything different about this than the GSM one that has been around for a while.

splitfinity said:
I also have small question. I just got my Galaxy Nexus direct from google. When loking at the ROM threads and whatnot, should i be using the GSM roms? Are they for the international version only, or are they safe to use on my straight google nexus.
Just didn't know if their was anything different about this than the GSM one that has been around for a while.
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The international one is GSM, yours is GSM, yours is international. Gravy!

same thing all GSMs are pentaband.

Are there multiple versions of the Nexus?

Hello all, I've been doing some research, and I am looking into purchasing an unlocked Galaxy Nexus here in Canada.
I am with the carrier Videotron, that uses the same network as T mobile. I currently have a G2x.
My question is, what are the different "models" of the nexus? I know there is the GT-I9250, but are there others? (for sprint, t-mobile, etc?)
Thanks in advance !

Not for tmobile but yes there is a sprint model which is the sph-L700, then there's the Verizon, dunno the model number and then there is the gsm version which is the GT model you named.
If you plan on rooting and modding and so on and so forth get familiar with the model nicknames.
GSM - Maguro
Sprint - Toroplus
Verizon - Toro.
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Worth mentioning that Sprint and Verizon is LTE phones, and the international version is GSM.

The GT-i9250 (Maguro) would work with my carrier correct, as it works with T-Mobile's networks? (AWS)

Blazing angel said:
The GT-i9250 (Maguro) would work with my carrier correct, as it works with T-Mobile's networks? (AWS)
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Correct.

Blazing angel said:
The GT-i9250 (Maguro) would work with my carrier correct, as it works with T-Mobile's networks? (AWS)
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yes, keep in mind though your 2x is faster in d/l speeds 42 vs 21 hspa. Not that its noticeable in actual usage.

Verizon Note 2 Vs. T-Mobile Note 2

Which Note 2 supports more networks and frequencies; and therefore, which would be more suitable for international travel. Is the Verizon Note 2 even pentaband?

T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Rhiannon224 said:
T mobile version because it's gsm which is going to work overseas. Verizon is a CDMA and I haven't read that it has gsm support.
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Yup, the T-Mobile version will work in more places overseas -- Especially Europe. Just in case, you might want to ask this in the Verizon area also just to make sure. :good:

I'm confused because on Samsungs website, http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I605TSAVZW-specs
the Verizon Model has the GSM frequencies,
is it GSM if unlocked; i believe the Note 2 is already unlocked by verizon, will it work on GSM frequencies internationally?
correct me if I'm wrong, thanks

the verizon Galaxy Note II apparently has the GSM radios,
also has LTE; doesn't AT&T LTE work along same frequencies as verizon LTE
or is the verizon LTE exlusively to CDMA?

All Galaxy Note 2 devices seem to have all WCDMA, GSM, and LTE bands.
But what I understand is that Verizon version is considered as a "world" phone. I know that they tell me that I can use their Galaxy Note 2 on the European Networks.
I have played around with the bands on my T-Mobile Galaxy Note 2 and can get the WCDMA and LTE working. So I don't know if the Modem firmware in all Galaxy Note 2 are the same and just need to be activated by the carrier's sim card or not. Someone please educate us on the this. I know that their is talk of needing OTA update to activate the LTE within T-Mobile GN2. But if the Modem is all the same then can just updating or exchanging the sim card could do the same? Or does the nv file also needs to be updated to activate the band/s as well?
The question is not if Galaxy Note 2 (all verisons) have the bands. But how to (the actual process) activate the band, in question, and get the Galaxy Note 2 in working order with the carrier of choice? What is the method? How to do the process of this method?
Please correct me if I am getting this wrong.

^ good point, and also just to ask about the verizon note 2 again, i thought it carries carries an an additional radio for CDMA, does this mean that the verizon note 2 model has better capabilities worldwide' since it is virtually compatible with all networks in the world (simply tweaks to the frequencies to the radio can get the verizon variant working virtually anywhere) please correct me if I'm wrong here. thanks

N/m ...
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Problem I have seen in the past with Verizon world phones is that the game frequencies only work overseas. And lte is gsm band. Which is one of the few reasons Verizon phones have a sim slot to begin with
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All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.

But doesn't Verizon use LTE on the 700 band just like AT&T and future TMobile LTE?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Please correct me if I'm wrong, thank you.

nerdydesi said:
All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So the Verizon Note2 is like the AT&T Note2 & Sprint Note2 (supporting 21Mbps HSPA+ but not 42Mbps like T-Mobile) but all only with their own respective LTE?..wouldn't it be more cost effective for Samsung just to make 1 phone with all the hardware to support all (isn't the iPhone5 like that now?) or is it cost prohibitive or do carriers not want to make it easier to unlock?
Are we still confident that the T-Mobile Note2 is the best if we want the flexibility to use on all carriers? How often is >21Mbps HSPA+ seen in real world use & why is the disabled LTE not listed at http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1877 ?

So, which is better then, Verizon or T-Mobile? Verizon's Note 2 also includes a CDMA radio whereas the T-Mobile version does not. If you are using the Note 2 in the US, wouldn't you have more flexible options in terms of which carrier to use?

nerdydesi said:
All recent Verizon LTE phones have GSM radios built in as well as their own CDMA/LTE radio. The LTE radio is only compatible with their network.
Some of these phones are even shipped out of the box unlocked and can be used immediately on GSM networks in the U.S.
If you do get the Verizon Note II and want to use it on T-Mobile, it will not have support for their HSPA+ 42mbps network, I believe it maxes out at 21mbps, as with all other Note II's around the world except for T-Mobiles.
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So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
-Thnx

Well LTE On the Verizon Note 2 is only compatible with Verizon's Network. Even if unlocked; the phone's firmware only recognizes LTE if only the Verizon 750 band is detected. Verizon has its own exclusive LTE bands compared to AT&T and Future T-Mobile LTE (sharing the same LTE bands)
SMARTPHONEPC said:
So do we consider the Verizon Note2 even more carrier flexible than T-Mobile's Note2 (as I was about ready to buy the T-Mobile Note2 to try their $30/mo plan but now having some doubts..if I want this tomorrow I need to order soon) ?
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I cannot speak to the CDMA radio issue, but I am positive that Verizon LTE will not work with any GSM LTE phone. The frequencies are similar, but Verizon is using a different LTE protocol. I asked that question a long time ago, thinking that LTE would finally allow roaming between Verizon and AT&T, but they are too clever to allow such a democratic system to function. They will remain fundamentally incompatible, not because they need to be, but because they want it that way to keep you locked to your carrier by your choice of device. Nice, eh?
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The Verizon NoteII will (in theory) connect to any gsm carrier. How to do so, I don't know.
Sent from my very "non-stock" TP.

^^^ Well, the Verizon Note 2 will not be able to work with another carrier's LTE than itself.

my experience
Hey folks,
I've got the Verizon Note 2 and I love it. If you're willing to unlock the bootloader and then install a hack onto your device, you'll easily be able to swap the SIM card out and use it just about anywhere. Yes, the phone is carrier unlocked (not the same as bootloader unlocked). The issue is that in the settings, they won't let you add the specific APNs for the carriers you need. I"m not sure how else to get around that without installing some of the hacks. I managed to do it and it works beautifully on Canada's Bell Mobility, HSPA+ is screamingly fast and the LTE on VErizon in the States is just insanely fast. My recommendation: get the Verizon version because they've built out their LTE much more than their rivals at this point.

On anantech the reviewer stated that the tmobile version would be the most compatible. If you get vzw note2 and switch you wont get lte on tmob or att. Quite frankly vzw is too expensive and the coverage from tmobile is getting better by the month. Not to mention their business pricing is better than any of the other carriers.