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Hey Everyone,
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus pre-ordered on Bell on a three year contract ($185 and $50/month for 500mb of data + 150 minutes). I found out that Mobilicity is also a GSM network that will work with the Galaxy Nexus and the price per month is only $17.50/month (for unlimited data, unlimited local calling and caller ID!) but the only downside is that many people report that the network drops often and there is no HSPA+ speeds. I know this may seem like a REALLY stupid question to ask, but do you guys think I should cancel the order, and then re-order the Galaxy Nexus unlocked for $800? (Taxes + cancellation fee). I mean with the network not supporting HSPA+ and the network itself not being supported in some areas in Canada (although I don't travel much and according to the coverage map I'm fully supported), is it really worth it from switching from my current order with Bell on a 3 year contract to Mobilicity?
Note: I realize its a fairly stupid question, but I haven't been thinking straight for the past few days and your comments will be extremely appreciated.
I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.
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I go through 500MB of data in a week. That plan would never work for me. I have a T-Moble/Wal-Mart $30/month unlimited data (5GB at H+), unlimited text, 100 talk mins (I never talk on the phone) and bought an unlocked GN for $850. The closest plan would cost me $99/month with Verizon.
I don't get why people can't realize that buying a good phone and then getting a cheap plan is cheaper in the long run.
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I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around ~$700 shipped. So for most in his situation it'd be more like ~$1420 for 2 years + phone. And you got a good deal on your SGSII, as T-mo advertises it for $229. So we can say most people's annual cost in your situation is ~$1670.
So if we go with real-world math its ~$1420 vs. ~$1670....
Not to mention that you're on a contract, and he isn't. Some people don't like being in a contract and that's worth it for them.
Yea I'm a heavy data user.... so I thought. But looking at several past invoices I realized I only use about 200 minutes and about 1.5-2gb a month data. I utilize wifi at work, work, and hotels when I can.
I pay $60 a month on T-Mobile for 1000 minutes and 5gb cap.
Buying the phone outright and using the Nexus on a cheap plan (Simple Mobile or Walmart special) is the way to go.
I also have a Verizon blackberry through work. I'm ditching my personal line, buying the Nexus on a new contract price on the corporate account and saving my money.
500mb of data would kill me... especially if there are overages and penalties.
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Towle said:
I pay $60 after taxes and fees per month on Tmobile USA with 1000 minutes, unlimited texts, and 5GB of H+ speeds. I got the Galaxy S II for $149 with a 2 year contract. Over 2 years I will pay a total of about $1400 after all taxes and fees, including the price of the phone. Over 2 years you will pay about $1,600 including the price of your phone... Who's saving money?
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$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month
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Huh?
$30 x 24mo + $850 phone = $1570
$60 x 24mo + $150 phone = $1590
And he overpaid for the phone considering most are getting it for around $700 shipped.
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Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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$149 up front but you pay full price for the phone over the 2 years which is $15 a month or more extra on top of the 59.99 a month
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What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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Correct 30x24+850=1570, which would work if there were no taxes and fees. And I did mine wrong I was going off of the time until I can upgrade again, my bad.
I'm still paying less than him after taxes and fees, and getting 10x the minutes.
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Look at my post again for a better breakdown... And even if he's paying 10% sales tax on his monthly purchases (there's no carrier fees involved with a pre-pay plan), that's only another $72 over 2 years.
That walmart/T-mo prepay play is an amazing deal. I'm looking to switch to it myself from my EM+ plan.
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What? No. I pay $149 total for the phone, I'm not on a value plan.
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pinky up i need that plan!!
The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan (when comparing apples to apples with the plans). The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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The point I'm trying to make is that there is no savings in buying a phone outright and going on an off contract plan. The only difference is one has a contract and one doesn't. Which I don't plan on leaving Tmobile anytime soon, or ever, because everyone else is more expensive.
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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.
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Well there is considering that this phone isn't offered on T-mobile... If you're going to be buying a phone full price to get one not available on the carrier, then you're saving money by going pre-pay or some form of off-contract service. And like I said, people see value in being off contract.
I wasn't trying to say you're doing the wrong thing (everyone makes their own choice for service that works for them), but I have to point out blatant math errors when you're trying to prove your point. He really is spending less money over 2 years.
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I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I'm on someones employee t-mobile plan : ) 2k minutes my faves unlimited txt web tethering and insurance for $10 a month : )
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I'm not saying anyone is doing anything wrong by going that route either, it's all personal preference. I just didn't like the statement "I don't get why people don't realize" when it's not true.
And your comparison isn't even valid. I'm pretty sure neither of us live in fake worlds and I paid $149 for my phone and he paid $850 for his. Even if they come out to be the same price over 2 years, I'm getting 10x the minutes, and don't have to fork over $600+ at one shot. Like I said, I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the other plans whatsoever, I just don't want people saying that everyone else is stupid for not going that route, when it's all personal preference.
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I simply covered the fact that most people are buying their Nexus' for ~$700, and T-mobile advertises the SGSII for $229.
That aside, I think his statement still holds strong. You've obviously crunched the numbers but most don't. Most people don't realize that there are fantastic off contract or pre-pay options that can save them $100's per year. Especially if they're coming from Verizon or AT&T, we're talking about moving from ~$100 per month to ~$30.
Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.
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Thanks so much for the replies guys I think what I'll be doing is buying it on a three year contract, buying another phone unlocked after a year or so when it becomes TRULY obsoleted in terms of software + hardware and using the sim on that. (I also had a question: would the galaxy nexus be considered "unlocked" after I remove the sim? Or is it still locked to the carrier? Also, if it is locked to the carrier, could I just get it unlocked from an external source?) Also, I have 14 days to return the phone (as long as I don't use 15 minutes or 1.5 mb) Finally, I'm not on a two year contract, but a 3 year one. The best plan I could get is $70/month and I get 6GB of data + 200 minutes. I see how I'm losing money, but I'm in Canada and the plans here are MUCH worse than in the US.
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Hopefully it will be unlocked from Bell. The Nexus S was, and some people have reported Bell reps saying the Galaxy Nexus will be as well.
You should ask Bell for 6 GB though. I talked to a rep and told him that Rogers was offering me 6 GB for the 500 MB price (unadvertised, but it was all over mobile sites a week or two ago), and asked if Bell could do the same for me if I was signing a 3-year contract. He said they would. It's common for Bell and Rogers to offer the 6 GB at times... ask for it, and if you're signing a 3-year contract you might just get it. Why have only 500 MB if you can get 6 GB for the same price?
Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!
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Wait, what? A THREE YEAR CONTRACT? I thought 24 months was hard enough!
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It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.
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It's the unfortunate standard for Canada. The two-year contract price for the GN is $599.99. That's F***ing ridiculous. This is why I decided to let my current contract run out in 15 months and not sign another. It's unlocked phones and the negotiating ability of switching for me now.
I'm also hoping the GN is carrier unlocked, as it should be, from Bell. Since I'm buying it outright anyways, I'll just drop my Telus SIM in and be a happy camper. Otherwise I have to wait until January when Telus and Rogers release it.
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I can confirm that the Bell GN is unlocked. Just popped a Telus sim in and it worked.
My contract is up on May 15th, and now Verizon is charging $30 bucks to upgrade!! WTF??? I'm looking to change to ATT (HTC ONE X) or prepaid as I am not going to give these fookers anymore money. I'm so tired of corporate greed. They say this because it is to "provide customers with the level of service and support they have come to expect." ???? Really? whenever I go into my local verizon store, they ask me about new phones and my newest roms. I'm so pissed right now at them.
As far as I can remember Verizon has always charged a 30 dollar fee..... they waived my last upgrade fee though because the lady messed up.
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Just read an article that said this is a new fee and starts on April 22. Apparently, in addition to data limits, this is a new fact of life. Sad. Might be time to shop around again though.
If only they knew how right they are with the "provide customers with a level of service and support they have come to expect from Verizon"... Over the years big red has become so greedy, I actually do expect a level of fees and charges that make absolutely no sense. I think the $30 this time might be for the Vaseline... Lol.
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Yeah man the least they can do is spit on it before they bend you over. What about best buy or amazon do will they incorporate the $30 fee?
is there a prepaid service in PA that anyone uses and has had good luck with? I have a t-mobile phone and the DINC2, so not sure if I can use either one with a prepaid service.
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As far as I can remember Verizon has always charged a 30 dollar fee..... they waived my last upgrade fee though because the lady messed up.
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this fee is new and starting april 22nd. Maybe your thinking of the early upgrade fee?
Hmm... I may start looking around next time my contract is up.
I don't what the fee was but they were going to charge me $30 when I upgraded. She waived it though because somewhere along the way she messed up and almost charged me over $300 for this phone when iit was supposed to be free.
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I don't what the fee was but they were going to charge me $30 when I upgraded. She waived it though because somewhere along the way she messed up and almost charged me over $300 for this phone when iit was supposed to be free.
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D*mn, so much for "providing better service"
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Call customer service and see if they can waive it. The Verizon stores are unable/unwilling to do anything for people. Smart phones have turned cellphones back into a "luxury" item again.
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Call customer service and see if they can waive it. The Verizon stores are unable/unwilling to do anything for people. Smart phones have turned cellphones back into a "luxury" item again.
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I usually have pretty good luck when calling customer service, and emailing them, but all I keep hearing from them is "blah blah blah". I emailed the director of customer service and the East Coast Regional manager, both have yet to get back to me. They keep saying how everyone else does it, they are 6 dollars cheaper, they have smartphone workshops, and it helps them with serving the customer better. The only thing they are serving is lining their pockets! I WILL go to ATT and get the ONE X, if they keep this up! My company waives the activation fee, so I don't have to pay that either. Greedy Bastards!
Guys as a few of you know I work for Verizon in sales. The $30 fee being added to upgrades is new. The other fees that you are referring to. The 30 being waived for early upgrades it's a fee that is done in stores to cover cost. alot of stores don't do this fee.
Just for reference. Verizon it's the last of the big 4 carriers to implement this upgrade fee. I don't agree with it at all but changing carriers will only led to the same thing. It is like comparing a Apple to an apple wearing a orange costume.
Still it looks like this is going to bite big red in the ass. Sales will be affected. Verizon will feel the blow financially.
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I never go to the stores to do anything. I deal with customer service exclusively because it is the only way I am ever able to get anything done. I doubt ill leave Verizon anytime soon. I still have unlimited data and I intend to keep it as long as I possibly can. I may pay out the ass but nobody else offers it that's worth a crap in my area. The customer service with Verizon isn't half bad anyway.
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I never go to the stores to do anything. I deal with customer service exclusively because it is the only way I am ever able to get anything done. I doubt ill leave Verizon anytime soon. I still have unlimited data and I intend to keep it as long as I possibly can. I may pay out the ass but nobody else offers it that's worth a crap in my area. The customer service with Verizon isn't half bad anyway.
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I have the unlimited data as well, but as most everyone knows, we "elite" customers get throttled (often!) because they offered to grandfather our plans and we took it. When I got my phone, music and netflix streamed without a hiccup, now because I'm not a "tiered" customer, I get throttled (and labeled as an "excessive use" customer).
The point; you either get it from one end or the other, either way they're going to stick it to their customers because we all want smartphones and they know they can plug us along the way for it. Atleast here, we can work together to screw them back!
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Wait, is this to upgrade at any time? Or just early upgrade?
I dont think I have been ever charged to upgrade anything, but I have been charged to activate lines in the past (30 bucks)
I know they charge early upgrade fee, which is fine to me I guess as I dont really upgrade often.
http://gizmodo.com/5901023/no-more-free-phone-upgrades-verizons-30-fee-starts-april-22nd
No More Free Phone Upgrades: Verizon’s $30 Fee Starts April 22nd
On April 22nd, Verizon will begin charging a $30 upgrade fee when existing customers buy a new phone on a new contract. It's the sad end of the free upgrade era.
FYI: if you look on eBay you can find new phones for the same price as buying one on contract. I was looking at Galaxy Nexus phones a month ago and you can find the CDMA version easily for 250-300 or right now the Rezounds are going for 150-200.
Does it suck to pay $30 for an upgrade? Yeah it does but I probably wont shift to a new carrier because I'm on a loyalty plan, getting an employee discount AND have my unlimited data grandfathered. I'll deal with paying the $30 every two years.
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Guys as a few of you know I work for Verizon in sales. The $30 fee being added to upgrades is new. The other fees that you are referring to. The 30 being waived for early upgrades it's a fee that is done in stores to cover cost. alot of stores don't do this fee.
Just for reference. Verizon it's the last of the big 4 carriers to implement this upgrade fee. I don't agree with it at all but changing carriers will only led to the same thing. It is like comparing a Apple to an apple wearing a orange costume.
Still it looks like this is going to bite big red in the ass. Sales will be affected. Verizon will feel the blow financially.
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Honestly whoever decided to implement this bs in Verizon can go fxxx and sxxx a dxxx period
Just because other carriers are doing it you don't have to follow their asses.
Verizon with slowest updates not to mention wtf bloats& ****ty 3g&4g in the area it's designated¬ many phones to choose from&well i can go more but I'll stop there
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xHoLyx said:
Honestly whoever decided to implement this bs in Verizon can go fxxx and sxxx a dxxx period
Just because other carriers are doing it you don't have to follow their asses.
Verizon with slowest updates not to mention wtf bloats& ****ty 3g&4g in the area it's designated¬ many phones to choose from&well i can go more but I'll stop there
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One thing about the upgrade fee is that some of the other carriers are talking about not even letting people upgrade.
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Well guess i should start saving for my Galaxy Note 3 now huh,this sucks but if this will keep them in business,I'm kinda fine with it. http://www.businessinsider.com/t-mobile-to-end-phone-subsidies-2012-12
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This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!
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This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!
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Wow,that kinda sucks...
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This is fine with me except, T-Mo will still expect their customers to sign a two year contract just like they do with the current Value plans.
That is the problem!!
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What do you propose, that they turn their whole business to prepaid? They'll be bankrupted in less than a year.
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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.
Most the GSM world doesn't subsidize their phones, and they have much more competitive prepaid plans. The average American is so used to phone costing $99 or even free, they don't realize that the provider is making a killing on their contract.
And if this drives down the value of t-mobile enough for Google to buy them, I am all for it!
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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.
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Maybe they wont charge for cancellation if the customer decide to cancel before the end of the contract. And if the customer decide to cancel his contract he is going to pay the rest of his phone before canceling.
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Theres no way they can charge full retail for a device and expect you to sign a two year agreement as well. Im positive the phones will be discounted.
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They already do that. You must sign a two year contract to get their plan pricing.
This is fine by me as i usualy switch phones every 4-6 months. Craigslist is where i usually shop.
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They already do that. You must sign a two year contract to get their plan pricing.
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Yeah, we've been doing it since August of last year, the value plan is nothing new, and it ends up being the same price monthly or even less depending on the phone you get. And you pay less up front for the phone.
I don't know about you guys freaking out, but they're simply getting rid of the Classic Plans and moving everyone onto the Value Plans...
Since I always buy my phone off contract, this is better since I save more month to month
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I don't know about you guys freaking out, but they're simply getting rid of the Classic Plans and moving everyone onto the Value Plans...
Since I always buy my phone off contract, this is better since I save more month to month
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For me, this isn't great news depending on the details. If they're going to do away with grandfathered plans, then my phone bill would go up even with the value plan. If they allow grandfathered plans to stay, then it's not that big of a deal.
Value plan phones are less money up front than the subsidy ones and the plans are still cheaper month to month with the EIP. Not sure about "upgrades" before two years is up though.
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For me, this isn't great news depending on the details. If they're going to do away with grandfathered plans, then my phone bill would go up even with the value plan. If they allow grandfathered plans to stay, then it's not that big of a deal.
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I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.
with the new plans you would be saving $20-$30 a month on your bill and you can choose to buy the phone in full price right there or choose to buy the month in full price but through monthly installments which will still save you money over a 2 yr contract compared to todays model
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I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.
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Right now T-Mobile is not forcing you to change your plan when you upgrade your phone(s), but who knows what that may look like next year. I'm just glad we upgraded phones this year and I'll be all set for at least 2 years.
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What do you propose, that they turn their whole business to prepaid? They'll be bankrupted in less than a year.
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I believe T-Mobile is going to turn into contract only service. And Metro PCS is going to be the prepaid service. This is what I believe is the plan with the merge of T-Mobile and Metro PCS.
I guess just different naming product services under what will be the same roof.
I also wonder if Metro PCS will keep the $10.00 per month international calling plan after this merge? My wife has that service because she calls Peru so much.
All this makes me wonder if this merge is worth it for us customers or not?
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I think once you upgrade your phone through some sort of subsidy (i.e. EIP on value plan) they will make you change your plan. So as long as you bring you own phone (which means paying full price without any subsidy) you will be able to keep your grandfathered plan.
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They made me change my plan when I got my now 140.00 note 2 after 100 rebate . It cost the same. I got now unlimited text / before 300 unlimited internet / before none at all 1000 mins / before 750 :good::highfive::victory:
Classic plans are the same if not more then value plan, America refuses to see the true value of devices they still expect a phone to be free or really low cost. I think what tmobile is doing is great but I can also see the main reason is so they can carry the iPhone without paying the hefty fee other carriers have been paying to subsidize it. Everybody complains about buying the note 2 on classic and how tmobiles subsidized prices are too high compared to other carriers yet they don't also charge you the price other carriers do for the service. Value as I see it is the best thing you can have if you love changing your phone buy and sell at the right times and you can get yourself a new phone very often spending much less then doing it on contract, granted you will always pay some sort of out of pocket but that's the cost we paying for the love of our tech. I think if you put the note on eip you owe 400 make ten payments which is just ten months you will owe 200 in ten months, I'm sure the note can still go for 300 or more so you sell pay it off and buy your new device. Value plans with eip tend to be a bit less then classic and a good amount less then other carriers so yes the contract portion is hard to swallow but in the end tmobile is financing you a phone without regards to your credit with no interest and giving you a lower monthly rate. Value is a good system for the smart buyer and I'd be ok with the contract the way I see it tmobile still took a risk financing you for the contract and hopefully they continue there trends with good phone sales people who bought the note on the recent sale after rebate got the note for 500 which is a steal on this device at full cost.
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After watching the video I understand what they are planning with the service plans packages. Classic Plan no more. Value Plan is it. You can buy the device full price from T-Mobile or somewhere else then go for the Value Plan. Or you can go for the Value Plan and make payments toward your device, which would add to the cost of what is now the Classic Plan. I feel that this is good long term for the customer's pocket and to educate the customer of the truth of subsidies plan packages from other carriers.
When it comes to the merger: I would not of went to T-Mobile without having the knowledge that they merging with Metro PCS. I had a good feeling that this merger is a good thing, just didn't know how it would play out.
I am also curious on how the branding, especially the company names, is going to play out. The way they are talking it looks like they may have changed plans on the name banding plans.
I am planning on switching to T-Mobile and I did some research to try and find the best deal possible since I am going to get into a new 2 year contract. I am a college student attending the University of Ohio and my university doesn't have a direct relationship with the school. I found a discount via the T-Mobile Advantage program and I attached the flyer here.
You get
A $50 account credit with a new activation (expires on 12/31)
Waived activation fees
10% discount
You have to call CS to activate I am not sure whether you can do it online. There is a promo code in the flyer which you have to mention. That discount is also affiliated with the student discount website Student rate. I am not sure whether you actually have to be a student or not.
Has anyone used this discount before??
Well with everything make sure you read the fine print, always little things to reduced the discounts you're getting. You sure you want tmobile they are not definitely not the best company in terms of customer service and business model. Anywho you should definitely check out best buy, they usually have really good deals on phone.
Right now they have the s3 for 179.99 way cheaper than what you would get it at tmobile around 300 or so. Make sure you call them because for some reason tmobile doesn't allow in store pickup(****ty business model). Also I don't know how all that works when you starting off, I was just upgrading good luck.
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Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.
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Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.
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It really is for most cases. Just some people like to aim high and go for an s3 and not everyone has 700 upfront to pay a company. While you end up paying more in a contract most people get paid every 2 to 4 weeks and are satisfied paying a fee monthly and two years is not very long. After the two years you can always take that phone you bought and get into those no contact based companies like metro etc.
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Is this whole offer expired? Or just the $50 credit offer?
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Examine if you really need to enter a 2-year contract.
Look at the Montly 4G plans. What are your needs - how many minutes and how much data do you need ?
I went with the 100minute/unlimited texting/5Gb plan for $30/mo. Even buying the phone up-front I'm saving a great deal over locking myself into a contract - a contract that wouldn't even give me what I actually wanted.
I made the mistake of going contract with Sprint on my first phone off of my family's the family plan. Overpaid for service I barely used. I don't see myself going back to contract plans - you overpay in the long-run - much more than if you just bought the phone and then paid a lower rate for the service instead of the hidden fee of paying them back for that "free" or "reduced cost" phone.
For instance, if I went with Verizon and paid $80/mo for their cheapest smartphone plan, that's $1200 more over two years than I'm paying now. Take away the $450 I spent on the phone - that's still $750. I could literally buy a brand new phone with THAT, even and two great-condition used ones. Maybe I'm a cynical jerk, but carrier subsidising is just a way to trick you into paying more money.
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How exactly do you get on the $30 unlimited plan with 100 talk minutes if you are already on T-Mobile prepaid.. I checked in the area on my T-Mobile to change the plan and it doesn't show up in there?
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It looks like the $50 has expired but discount is still valid
Actually, this offer seems to be back on back on until 02/28 - $50 credit + 10% discount + waived activation fees. They also have some pretty good sales on handsets
Samsung Galaxy SIII is free right now until the 18th of feb, i think actually almost all tmo devices are free
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Samsung Galaxy SIII is free right now until the 18th of feb, i think actually almost all tmo devices are free
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Is this just new accounts and contracts through calling customer service? I got the s3 for free after tons of issues with my amaze, and now my wife is super jealous and wants one, haha.
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Is this just new accounts and contracts through calling customer service? I got the s3 for free after tons of issues with my amaze, and now my wife is super jealous and wants one, haha.
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If you call and upgrade using the promo code I think you can still get the discount and a discounted device. It mayb depend whether your account is eligible for an upgrade or not. You should definitely give it a shot they're usually very helpful on the phone!
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If you call and upgrade using the promo code I think you can still get the discount and a discounted device. It mayb depend whether your account is eligible for an upgrade or not. You should definitely give it a shot they're usually very helpful on the phone!
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When is T-Mobile expected to get the iPhone?
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When is T-Mobile expected to get the iPhone?
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For all we know, theyll be getting the iphone 6 when their lte network will be out for a few months.
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actually i think they're supposed to announce the GS4 pretty soon... so i probably won't even wait for the iPhone to come out
that 50 bucks for activation is gone... bummer. do you know if i still get the discount and my activation fees waived with the promo code ?
By a t mobile s3 no contract or steal one lol, just get one. Then go to si. Please mobile and get the rg plan 53 dollars a month and that's it.. "unlimited" data message and minutes. 3g is cheaper also does not need to be unlocked. I'm on it currenttly
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SIMPLE Mobile Invoice: $43.63 has been applied to your account. Thank you.
Thank you for your payment of $43.63. Your confirmation number is 7701215xxxxxx
This was the bill I just payed in the beginning of March and the text the sent me. Customer service e helps u set up your apn.. They help unlike the douche that is t-mobile.
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I pay $30 plus less than $2 in sales tax with T - Mobile.
I've never had an issue with their customer service - and it was I fact one of the reasons I was happy to switch to them when my contract with Sprint was up.
People need to pick what works best for them.
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Bad thing about t-mobile is that when you run your limit on t-mobile they put you on 2g. Simp puts you on 3
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And they use the same towers
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Bad thing abiut Simple Mobile is that I'd pay $50 to be throttled after 2Gb whereas I now pay $30 and get 5Gb until throttled. And T - Mobile avtually tells you about the soft data cap up front.
Hey, Simple Mobile is great for whoever it works for, and T - Mobile is great for who it works for. Notice that I'm not calling them "douches" even though I disagree with some of their business practices.
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I am calling them douche because I've had a family plan since the razor came out and the price just gets crazy. They treated me like a wallet. And yeah simp tells you, read the fine print.
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T-Mobile announced that in the coming months they will end discounted phones with a contract and go the European way and make you pay retail for any phone yet your monthly bill will go down a lot in price. How do you guys feel about this.?
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Some people will love it, some will hate it. Here in the states, we are spoiled, do the majority will hate it. If it goes too bad, then they'll go back to subsidies. To keep it during hatred, the other companies will do the same. I don't mind as I buy my own phones even when I was in a contract to try the latest phones. Hey, you win some, you lose some
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If they're doing it the way they generally have offered as of late, they may not do a carrier subsidy the way Big Red/Yellow/Blue do, but they'll allow you to do a "handset mortgage", where you can pay a "down payment" when you get the phone and then the loan will be a separate line item until you pay it off, which can be at any point.
I actually prefer this model because it allows you to pay more or less to decrease the amount still owed for your phone and potentially decrease your bill substantially once you're done paying the phone off. It will also allow for quicker upgrades because you won't have to wait two years until your contract rolls around again.
I'm not opposed to this model at all.
Joey
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If they're doing it the way they generally have offered as of late, they may not do a carrier subsidy the way Big Red/Yellow/Blue do, but they'll allow you to do a "handset mortgage", where you can pay a "down payment" when you get the phone and then the loan will be a separate line item until you pay it off, which can be at any point.
I actually prefer this model because it allows you to pay more or less to decrease the amount still owed for your phone and potentially decrease your bill substantially once you're done paying the phone off. It will also allow for quicker upgrades because you won't have to wait two years until your contract rolls around again.
I'm not opposed to this model at all.
Joey
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If they offer that. Then I'll be okay with that. But I'm not OK with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...I got more important things to pay for lol. But then again on the bright side the bill per month is gonna drop sooo much
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I'm in Charlotte, and the store I went to has already gone through this transition. The plan price went down approximately $30. The down-payment was similar to the advertised price for the subsidized phones, and the monthly payments were $20, for twenty months. Overall, I'll pay $550 for phone retailed to cost $599, with a slight savings on the rate plan.
The big savings come after twenty months, when the phone is paid off. I'm not one to upgrade immediately, so I may save money on the rate plan for 6-12 months before buying a new phone. Where before, even if I didn't buy a phone, I was paying the monthly rate that included the subsidy.
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I'm in Charlotte, and the store I went to has already gone through this transition. The plan price went down approximately $30. The down-payment was similar to the advertised price for the subsidized phones, and the monthly payments were $20, for twenty months. Overall, I'll pay $550 for phone retailed to cost $599, with a slight savings on the rate plan.
The big savings come after twenty months, when the phone is paid off. I'm not one to upgrade immediately, so I may save money on the rate plan for 6-12 months before buying a new phone. Where before, even if I didn't buy a phone, I was paying the monthly rate that included the subsidy.
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So u can still get a new phone without paying retail?
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So u can still get a new phone without paying retail?
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Yes and No. ** I do not work for T-Mobile, but this is how I understand things **
EIP has existed for a very long time now and will continue to exist. T-Mobile is simply being upfront with customers instead of building in a subsidy into a rate plan. In almost every case, the customer wins.
Here's one way to look at it. Value Plan + EIP = Classic plan Either way, the upfront costs are similar. In one case, you call it a downpayment, in another you call it a price w/ 2 year contact extension. EIP is typically 20 months, which is better than the 24 months a full blown 2 year extension will be. Again, as far as the initial cost of the phone, the downpayment is essentially equivalent to the previously advertised price of the phone with contract.
This model does a few things from the perspective of a customer. It gives you the option of purchasing phones outright, or opting to get what essentially is a 20 month interest free loan from t-mobile on up to $400 towards the purchase price of a phone. When that loan is paid off, you are left with a nice and small bill for just the services you use, the voice, data, and text services provided by T-Mobile. This opens the door wide open for people to bring unlocked devices over to T-Mobile, and enjoy a low price monthly rate plan. Previously, the best way to do this was to buy an unlocked phone, buy a carrier phone with a 2-year extension, and sell the carrier phone and put that towards the price of the unlocked phone.
This really is a win for pretty much all consumers. People who want a low initial cost can opt for the EIP, people who bring their own devices can choose to do so and enjoy a low monthly rate, and finally people who keep their devices for a long time will enjoy a low rate after they complete their EIP payments.
The only time this is NOT advantageous is if you decide to break the contract prior to the end of the EIP term + value plan contract. For example, if I buy a new phone, start a EIP plan for 20 months, and sign up for a 2 year value plan, I would have to pay a $200 penalty to break the value plan, and also $400 to close out the EIP. Of course, the way to get around this is to sell the phone to repay the EIP.
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T-Mobile announced that in the coming months they will end discounted phones with a contract and go the European way and make you pay retail for any phone yet your monthly bill will go down a lot in price. How do you guys feel about this.?
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as far as i know, t-mobile has already offer $50 contract free service in NYC. that includes 4g network, unlimit calling, texing, web, etc.
I am current simple mobile user, $40 each month, and it is great!
I am sure if ATT, Verizon, don't take any action, most of their customers will walk way.
My contract ends in may...its gonna be a big decision whether I'm gonna leave T-Mobile or not
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About a month ago a tmo rep told me they are doing this soon.
O well doesn't bother me lol
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Yeah its not all that new . Tmobile has been allowing people to break up their payments since they announced their even more plus plans. I think its a great option in present times for those that can't afford to fork out 500$ in one transaction.
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They already have offered this its called the "Value Plans", as apposed to the "Classic Plans" the value plans are only offered at t-mobile stores and since sept they have offered a truly unlimited data option on the value plan. thats the plan i have been on since i joined t-mobile in sept. the gs3 for me was 149.99 down with $20 for 20 months. (549.99) and my rate plan is 69.99 for unlimited everything. The one thing i dont like about the value plan is that even though you are paying full price for your phone in the end you are still on a 2 year contract with $200 early termination fee. and if you dont use all the minutes and want to lower your bill thats a whole new 2 year contract. T-mobile really shouldnt due that to its customers.
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They already have offered this its called the "Value Plans", as apposed to the "Classic Plans" the value plans are only offered at t-mobile stores and since sept they have offered a truly unlimited data option on the value plan. thats the plan i have been on since i joined t-mobile in sept. the gs3 for me was 149.99 down with $20 for 20 months. (549.99) and my rate plan is 69.99 for unlimited everything. The one thing i dont like about the value plan is that even though you are paying full price for your phone in the end you are still on a 2 year contract with $200 early termination fee. and if you dont use all the minutes and want to lower your bill thats a whole new 2 year contract. T-mobile really shouldnt due that to its customers.
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Well to be honest they kinda have to keep that early termination fee, because basically if they don't what's to keep you from leaving after you only payed 149.99 for a 800 phone. Even if you still decide to leave you only end up paying about 350. 200 fee plus the 150 you put down. This is coming from a guy who really dislike tmobile I'm just with them because I almost don't pay anything on a 5 line account. Really there's not much difference between classic and value when it comes to buying a phone both tie you to a 2 year contract and early fee.
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Isn't this pretty much the same thing as their Value Plan they've had for some time now? I've been on that plan for a bit over a year now. For me, the plus side is that over the course of a two year period, I'll end up saving roughly $1200 for two lines compared to my previous plan with everything unlimited.
The downside is of course the unsubsidized pricing of all the phones...completely ineligible for any special promotions, as well. If T-Mobile keeps that same plan model, people may find themselves paying for multiple devices at a time if they run into mishaps (theft, damage, etc.). Even with insurance, you'll pay a pretty penny for a replacement but will still be responsible for paying off the original. This would be a big adjustment for a lot of people in many ways, not just financially.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Edit: Chuck beat me to it LoL. I'm so not used to typing novel-length msgs on a mobile xD
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So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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If they offer that. Then I'll be okay with that. But I'm not OK with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...I got more important things to pay for lol. But then again on the bright side the bill per month is gonna drop sooo much
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LOL...pay now, pay later. do the math. if youre on a classic plan, you still pay full price for the phone, you just pay for it a little a time added onto your monthly bill. so, you are okay with paying 5-600 dollars for a phone...
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So how the phone insurance will work, will tmobile offer this option I doubt. I'm not referring manufacturer 1 year but long term one.
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Don't see why they would stop offering the extended insurance. If you're going to be paying for you're phone for 2 years you might as well have insurance that also extends the warranty for that long.
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The downside is of course the unsubsidized pricing of all the phones...completely ineligible for any special promotions, as well. If T-Mobile keeps that same plan model, people may find themselves paying for multiple devices at a time if they run into mishaps (theft, damage, etc.). Even with insurance, you'll pay a pretty penny for a replacement but will still be responsible for paying off the original. This would be a big adjustment for a lot of people in many ways, not just financially.
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Actually the promos DO apply. The last sale was a zero down sale, so you get your down payment back as a rebate. So instead of a $600 phone it's only $400. It's no different than a free phone with a higher monthly payment.
I haven't had a plan for years. If you look you can find a deal on craigslist sometimes ebay