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I know the True HD IPS screen is better than the AMOLED but I didn't think it was that much sharper than the HD Super AMOLED on a borrowed Galaxy Nexus. It's almost like putting on glasses, very crisp detail. I'm guessing when there is a non pentile HD AMOLED the differences may be a lot smaller but against the pentile HD AMOLED the difference is huge. The only thing holding the Optimus LTE back against truly surpassing the Galaxy Nexus in just about every way is the lack of an official ICS rom but then there is always CM9 for those of us who know how to get it on the phone.
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Yup. 3 subpixel elements rendering out light using RGB + a decently wide gamut backlight, rather than educated guesswork (well, subpixel rendering) using only a combination of two subpixels per pixel (and still off color). Also, no uneven black screens. Minor nitpick, but has always annoyed me on all amoled displays (it really shows up a night).
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Also keep in mind that the G nexus has a slightly larger screen, therefore lower PPI.
There's no question about it. I also compared the Nexus vs. Nitro side by side, and the text on Nexus' screen is more like my old 3GS, but on Nitro it's much sharper. Oh, did I mention the over-saturated color?
What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
HTC did the right thing using the SUPERLCD in the one X imo
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What's funny to me is that the next great android super phone, the Galaxy S3 is STILL going to use a pentile AMOLED screen.
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Yeah that is disappointing. Those who say pentile isn't noticeable never used a high density IPS display; I could see what looks like a dithering pattern everywhere coming from the optimus true hd lte. I also don't like how AMOLED has these blotches everywhere when viewing the screen on low brightness.
I refuse to get anything less than our True HD IPS. Coming from an iPhone 4 to the Nitro, me eyes have been looking at retina quality screens for too long to go back to anything less.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF-Z3_f3WCE
That's the difference I'm talking about
Another thing to point out (and maybe it's just me) the last phone I had was an infuse 4g and I noticed a burn in with the status bar, my brother's phone is the same which is a galaxy s. Both of them are amoled. Which I could notice while playing games on them.
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True I've already seen a few AMOLED displays with burn-in visible. I think LCD technology is also prone to some image persistence problems but not nearly as prone as AMOLED
Wow the youtube video really gets the point across. And I was already considering buying a Galaxy S3. I think we may be spoiled by our phones because there is a possibility LG may not continue to do the IPS displays. Also, the processor is a factor as well. I'm still on the fence between a 4X and GS3.
I've yet to experience the burn issues with OLED but I've never peaked out the brigtness settings for a prolonged period either which it strongly states can cause screen burn.. There is a divided group I've come to notice were some don't really get all that excited by the vibrant colors and outright detest the lack of viewabilty in open sunlight. I don't make any qualms against those and their reasons are valid. There are a lot of us however who are passionate about them for their stunning colors that captivate a photographers eye. I suppose it's an each their own issue but for anyone who is new with AMOLED, any prolonged brightness at the maxed settings on a fixed screen inevitably causes burn. I've personally never had any issues.
Biggest downside for me on p930 is the touch sensitivity. It's definitely noticeable compared to the skyrocket. It's especially pronounced on the screen edges. Otherwise, the form factor is better (thinner, textured back), the screen has a great feature where the glass curves over the edges of the bezel. Could be the reason the edges are less sensitive? I also prefer the three capacitive buttons vs. four. And as mentioned display quality is great: ppi, benefits of it's lcd vs amoled, etc. Show someone the videos included with the stock gingerbread wrong. It amazing.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
Samsung said they are including the pentile again, because it lasts longer then the HD amoled display. Something else to consider.
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This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
gmkelly001 said:
This sorta seems like a slap in the face to current Galaxy S2 owners doesn't it? "Hi, this is Samsung, your Galaxy S2 screen should be dying soon, perfect time to buy a new S3!"
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
In Canada you basically have to go 3 year contract or the subsidy isn't worth it and you might as well buy the phone outright
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Basically, it's Samsung admitting burn in IS an issue, even within the 2 year confines of many phone contracts (though some in Canada get 3 years!?).
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I think it's more likely that they can't make a profit if they included Super Amoled Hd + displays.
Thank you for your new reel
I returned my Galaxy nexus and bought a LG Nitro HD. The screen on the Nexus had way too many flaws to pass for a high end phone. The yellow tint, and the ghosting were unacceptable to me.
Hi guys,
I would just like to get some feedback regarding the IPS screen on the Nitro. I have been using iPhone 4 for around 2 years and would like to switch to an HD android phone. However I think I am kind of spoiled by the IPS display on the iPhone as it is simply the best I have seen so far. I have compared it with others like SAMOLED+, HD SAMOLED(Pentile) or the SLCD2 and I still find it to be the most comfortable to look at. I dont have a chance to look at the Nitro screen in person as it is not available in Australia so I was thinking I can use some feedback from actual users.
Personally I think the SAMOLEDs are a bit too colorful and the SLCD2 is still a little bit washed-out. I have read some reviews on the internet and it seems like the IPS on the Nitro is not as bright as the one on iPhone but I am not too sure if it is true. So what do you guys think of the screen comparing to the ones on iPhone 4/4s in terms of contrast, brightness and color accuracy?
Thanks heaps!
Max
LG makes the retina display for the iPhone 4/4s. It's the exact same technology in both displays, with the same ppi, but the Nitro has a higher resolution.
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Actually the Nitro has a slightly higher ppi than the iPhone 4/s.
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Actually the Nitro has a slightly higher ppi than the iPhone 4/s.
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iPhone 4/4S is 330ppi and Nitro HD is 326ppi (based on GSMarena.com's calculations anyway). Although small rounding errors would give different results. It's negligible in any case.
The display is phenomenal, but it's the software running the display that will make you scratch your head. Gingerbread isn't optimized to run a display of this resolution. There is banding on gradients and certain times you will look at the screen and make you doubt it.
However, when ICS hits, it'll all be cleared up. It's still the best display that I've sen on an Android phone yet. I returned my Galaxy Nexus for this phone. There is no replacement for sharpness and color accuracy, both of which this phone has.
If coming from an iPhone, you won't be disappointed.
The ppi is definitely negligible, but as a former iPhone 4 user myself, I can assure you the Nitro HD's screen is just as great with the added benefit of being large enough for true HD. I wouldn't ever take an iPhone again. Way too small.
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The ppi is definitely negligible, but as a former iPhone 4 user myself, I can assure you the Nitro HD's screen is just as great with the added benefit of being large enough for true HD. I wouldn't ever take an iPhone again. Way too small.
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Yea that's exactly the same reason I am switching to android. If the screen is indeed the same quality then I will be very happy to get a Nitro or maybe wait for the Optimus LTE2 as I dont like the Tegra 3 on the 4X.
The coming iPhone 5 is better. If you want to taste ICS android, LTE2 is perfect, for its longer battery life.
I'm getting out of patience with charging the batterys.
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I`ve read once that ah-ips is in fact a AFFS matrix. Can anyone proove that or is it wrong?
One interesting variation of IPS is the AH-IPS architecture developed by LG Display. This type of IPS panel uses the AFFS (advanced fringe field switching).
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I found AFFS type matrix in only 1 phone in whole world and it is Nokia 5530 2.9"
AFFS panels are mostly utilized in the cockpits of latest commercial aircraft displays. Seems like ours display is only on par to expensive commercial aircraft ones and not to some cheap $h1t pentile amoleds
shawlz said:
The coming iPhone 5 is better. If you want to taste ICS android, LTE2 is perfect, for its longer battery life.
I'm getting out of patience with charging the batterys.
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eh?
what does the "coming iphone 5 is better." mean? of course it will be better, that's the point. why would it be worse? worse than what? the 4? a blackberry? smoke signals?
BUT- it's all rumor and speculation at this point and the screen size is a guess too.
not to mention, it's a year away and no one has even guessed how it will address lte and batt issues with that.
bottomline: certainly a smart phone released a year from now should be better than any phone on the market today.
next, the lte2 is perfect for what? op isn't in korea. and its longer batt life is based primarily on the larger batt, and from what Ive gathered, not on any real sw tweaks.
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longer batt life is based primarily on the larger batt, and from what Ive gathered, not on any real sw tweaks.
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longer batt life due to S4 Krait based on 28nm, and therefor way too cooler than ours Scorpion, and secondly radio chip is inside of S4 so helps reduce power. Seems like I've get lte2 in my hands sooner than at&t will bring official ICS to light
for LTE2 there's own tread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635089
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longer batt life due to S4 Krait based on 28nm, and therefor way too cooler than ours Scorpion, and secondly radio chip is inside of S4 so helps reduce power. Seems like I've get lte2 in my hands sooner than at&t will bring official ICS to light
for LTE2 there's own tread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635089
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i've read the thread, hell i commented in it weeks ago.
but I tend not to buy into the marketing that the lte2 is automatically better at handling the battery, i'll wait for some testing.
on the other hand, a batt ~350mAh bigger is an obvious difference.
not saying the phone won't include some break-through batt tech that solves the problem of battery power, but i've yet to see any proof and i tend to distance myself from the pre-release marketing.
The screen on my LG Spectrum is phenomenal when compared to my old AMOLED DROID Incredible. I've also compared my screen to the screen of friends' iPhone 4s and 4Ss. So long as the brightness is roughly equivalent, the LG Spectrum comes out ahead because it is true HD.
Watching Netflix on my phone in HD is awesome and everyone I've shown it to is exceedingly impressed. Even iPhone owners.
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This is exactly why I chose lg nitro for my upgrade. I compared displays of samsung, htc, moto razr and iphone. Samsung colors looked non-uniform on the blue side. Moto razr is, well, not much to write home about. Htc, not good either. Iphone's display is very good and normalised and it looks more effective with appke's aesthetic design wrapped around it. But I am an iphone hater (like mac though).
First thing that stands out with Nitro is it's display. Very clear and even. But it's design is same old plastic and mmmehhh..still chose the phone because the display is the best in the current android crop and too good to pass. Put the leaked ics, not the cm9, and you have a neat package. Also, as previous user of cm9, a big shout out to them, they gave the nitro community the first taste of ics which is greatly appreciated.
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This is exactly why I chose lg nitro for my upgrade. I compared displays of samsung, htc, moto razr and iphone. Samsung colors looked non-uniform on the blue side. Moto razr is, well, not much to write home about. Htc, not good either. Iphone's display is very good and normalised and it looks more effective with appke's aesthetic design wrapped around it. But I am an iphone hater (like mac though).
First thing that stands out with Nitro is it's display. Very clear and even. But it's design is same old plastic and mmmehhh..still chose the phone because the display is the best in the current android crop and too good to pass. Put the leaked ics, not the cm9, and you have a neat package. Also, as previous user of cm9, a big shout out to them, they gave the nitro community the first taste of ics which is greatly appreciated.
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Is there actually a noticeable difference between CM9 and the leak in terms of display?
Aside from the random blue flash on CM9 and considering my limited time on the leak (~an hour), I'd say no.
The leak is more fluid and customised. But the major positive is the battery life. I had to recharge twice a day using cm9. Now with the leaked version the phone still has some juice left end of the day.
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I agree... in order to get decent battery life out of CM9 I've had to switch over to hspa+ and use SetCPU to reduce my CPU speed while the screen is off, as well as manage my wifi well.
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ARe you freezing anything or implementing any other tweaks to stock that are giving you this great battery life? I'm not nearly that good when I've tried the leak.
I got rid of all the bloatware. Helped battery life tons
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LG is showcasing a new display that claims to be the world's first full HD LCD smartphone panel - measuring five-inches and supporting up to 1080p video.
The display boasts a pixel density of 440 PPI with a 16:9 aspect ratio.
According to LG, the display technology is a variant of IPS - or Advanced High Performance In-Plane Switching or AH-IPS.
This provides wide viewing angles for the display, faster response time, along with improved efficiency and brightness.
Interestingly enough, LG claims the naked eye is unable to distinguish between individual pixels on the new screen, which promises faster response time and smooth image transitions. The company also says the display is ideal for use in outdoor settings thanks to its improved brightness.
The display is set to be available in the second half 2012, which means smartphones equipped with the new hardware could appear just a few months later.
the icing on the cake is that is right about when i get to upgrade..
derp, i started this in the wrong sub-forum huh!
I have been looking at my LGOG and my Pro for a few days now, and I think I understand why I still prefer the LGOG screen, especially in outdoor light: the LGOG has the ZEROGAP IPS screen, while the Pro does not. Any thoughts or corroboration? The Pro is otherwise great, but the screen visibility was getting me. I would not have noticed had I come straight to the Pro from my old Inspire 4G....
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I have been looking at my LGOG and my Pro for a few days now, and I think I understand why I still prefer the LGOG screen, especially in outdoor light: the LGOG has the ZEROGAP IPS screen, while the Pro does not. Any thoughts or corroboration? The Pro is otherwise great, but the screen visibility was getting me. I would not have noticed had I come straight to the Pro from my old Inspire 4G....
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Wut? LOL. The Pro does have Zerogap too. What it lacks though is proper antiglare coating, it's antiglare is as bad and almost absent as on cheap $70 Chineese tablets. Comparing to 2 my previous LG smarts when I sit in my room and stare onto their displays only on GPro I see my perfect reflection, the previous 2 displays absorbed light and given no reflection, almost no.
But if antiglare were thicker on G Pro the LEDs must have been more energyconsuming therefor much quicker battery drainage. LG was to make tough compromiss
Screen protector helped somewhat. I still could not find anything on the LG site explicitly stating the screens used the same tech, though.
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Screen protector helped somewhat. I still could not find anything on the LG site explicitly stating the screens used the same tech, though.
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They are different,G Pro uses much better AH-IPS matrix when OG uses simple IPS matrix. And zerogap is not new for G Pro therefore it's not advertised. The IR is new, the QButton is new, they are advertised, and zerogap is old story
LG V30 Review: A Near Masterpiece for Media Producers
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/lg-v30,review-4753.html
They used an AT&T LG V30. Has some good and bad -- but mostly good.
Not sure what was up with their battery, however.
ChazzMatt said:
LG V30 Review: A Near Masterpiece for Media Producers
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/lg-v30,review-4753.html
They used an AT&T LG V30. Has some good and bad, but mostly good.
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Good read I'd say. Liked to see the section "Stellar oled screen". Did they do the 4 condition display test I wonder?
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Good read I'd say. Liked to see the section "Stellar oled screen". Did they do the 4 condition display test I wonder?
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Yeah..
Display: A stellar OLED screen
As polished as the design is, it's the V30's display that commands your attention. The 6-inch OLED panel, which has a resolution of 2880 x 1440, has everything you could ask for in a modern smartphone screen. Even ordinary UI elements and app icons burst off the surface with vivid colors and a crispness rivaled only by Samsung's top-line Galaxy fleet.
The latest Justice League trailer looked good enough — but if you really want to see what the V30 can do, fire up some HDR content on YouTube. I watched some Planet Earth-style footage of the Australian wilderness, and the V30 demonstrated the full range of its capabilities with perfect blacks, striking contrast and an impressive range of colors that deftly picked up the nuances of a sunset scene.
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A weird contrast compared to https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
The inconsistency between reviews when it comes to screen quality makes me worry
LG V30 review: Stunning hardware optimized for media creators and audio lovers
http://www.zdnet.com/product/lg-v30/
Review of T-Mobile retail version. He loves it, says battery life has improved from the preproduction version he had before release.
He says he likes it better than the Note 8, which he also has.
The LG V30 is a gorgeous, well-made smartphone that keeps pulling my T-Mobile SIM back from the Note 8, HTC U11, and other smartphones. There are other phones out there with compelling features, but LG brings everything together in such an elegant package with the V30 that it is tough not to love this phone.
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People wanting to trash this phone will be disappointed with this review.
The only quibbles are he doesn't like LG's auto brightness, and he thinks maybe it's priced about $100 too high.