Guess what sprint just did... - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

They pushed a PRL auto update to my phone... Now I am not roaming anymore. They did this shortly after hitting 5GB for this pay period.
Screw you sprint. I'm putting it back. I have been roaming for a few months now and racking up a ton of data. They have not contacted me about it at all.
So if you guys are force roaming your phones, be it to have them kick you or just because, check your PRLs.

Off-network Roaming: The primary use of your Device must be for domestic purposes within the Sprint-owned network. Domestic means use in the 50 United States and U.S. Territories (except Guam). Sprint reserves the right, without notice, to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if off-network usage in a month exceeds: (1) voice: 800 min. or a majority of minutes; or (2) data: 300 megabytes or a majority of kilobytes. The display on your device may not always be on and will not indicate whether you will incur roaming charges. You can monitor usage online through My Account. Roaming is not available with single-band phones, or to customers who reside or whose primary use is outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may limit or terminate service if you move outside of the Sprint owned-network.
Not saying it's right. Just saying it's what you agreed to when you signed that dotted line. Read your terms closer and you will be less surprised. This is why it can be worth it to pay a little more for a better network with better roaming terms.
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I'm not surprised, really I am actually wanting them to terminate me.
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change your PRL again and maybe run an AOSP based type ROM? I don't think you can update profile/prl with those ROMs.

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I'm not surprised, really I am actually wanting them to terminate me.
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You and me both, coverage sucks bad where I live. PRL 1119 will hopefully do the trick for good finally. I even have an air rave and still can't get signal for sh*t.
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s9amme said:
change your PRL again and maybe run an AOSP based type ROM? I don't think you can update profile/prl with those ROMs.
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I put it back to my modded PRL. Don't really like AOSP...
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I have way better coverage while roaming. Using 01337.
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Use 00002 ... it'll get you kicked! I know

As you can see... I have been racking up at least 5gb of data on roaming. Been doing it for months now.
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Wow. How in the hell are you still on the Sprint network with that kind of usage?
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I always pay my bill on time.
Actually I have no idea. Lol.
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If you really want to get terminated, use one of these PRL's...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880781

FLynn, the prls you referenced appear to all be Sprint PRL's. 00002 PRL is an always roaming PRL. Even when you're not "technically" roaming. You are. 100% all the time on the Verizon network. If you're shopping for a termination letter....I can't think of a better way to get one.

The PRL I use is also always roaming as well.
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Here you go. What happen today on my phone by sprint, all the sudden my phone pop up with android on screen and Downloading
It says " don't turn off device on target".
I don't know on the last written On Target??. Immediately I pull off battery then back to normal.
Just may be I thought like yours, because I use roaming all time this month around 6GB.. Either sprint to push pro update or something else.
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Nope. Not what happened to mine. That is a regular download mode. However. Check your device info. I have a hunch. Does it say 4.2? Only if you are on TW based ROM.
I discovered this when my device displayed a triangle next to my signal bars after a call. I put the device in airplane mode then back. Thought all was well until I couldn't load any Web based apps. Went and checked my PRL and it had been force updated.
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Ya my device is 4.2 and my prl 00001 roaming all this pay period. I received my bill, 3G data usage 0 and G data roaming usage 5,780,076kb
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Are you stock?
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I am really sorry if this is out of line and/or stupid....but how does one go about finding out which prl would be the best for their particular area of coverage?

Trial and error.
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[question]Why is 4g so important to you?

I just wanted to find out what people think
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If I had it it would be faster than my wifi also sprints 3G is crap.
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'Cause 3g speeds suck on sprint? 4g is descent. If we were getting 1.5m 3g connections I wouldn't sweat it.
Ive got >2mbps with 3g
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lmsomb said:
Ive got >2mbps with 3g
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Very lucky I get about 2.3 with airrave
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I get 5Mbs when 4G is good. Downloads are super fast. Don't get that spinning circle for so long. Can't wait for LTE.
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By the way I live in california. Highest 4g speeds I've experienced are close to 8mbps
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By the way I live in california. Highest 4g speeds I've experienced are close to 8mbps
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4G is about 11-13 around me ... when I get it
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Lol I don't even use 4G. Haven't used it since I got the Epic on release date.
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I don't even get 4g in my area. Pretty lame when I'm paying $10 a month extra for it...
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I don't even get 4g in my area. Pretty lame when I'm paying $10 a month extra for it...
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That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge.
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Cause its way faster then wifi. I have wifi at home. I get 4g around the city and sometimes at home, but when I get it, I quickly switch to 4g. Cm9 or people's rom + 4g =Epic phone!
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That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge
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I think I'm gonna set my phone to 24/7 roam on verizon to get my $10 worth then.
Not important to me. Neither is 3g for that matter. I spend 90% of the day within reach of wifi. And when I'm out and about, I don't mind the slow 3g speeds (500k). I don't do anything on my phone that is bandwidth intensive.
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That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge.
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Actually the first month after the Epic's release date, Sprint store sales reps were telling customers the additional $10 was specifically for either using 4G or to bring 4G to your area within the next 6 months. That's the only reason I want 4G, the company allowed a huge amount of reps to sell the phone with that sales pitch. To try and quell the angst, Sprint implemented the charge across all "smart devices".
Closest 4G area is ~400mi away from me.
4G area is pointless in my area. I've rarely ever gotten it, and all it does is drain battery anyway. I'm curious to see how good LTE will be, and if it'll actually be in my area for once.
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That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge.
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Wink wink. . . . nudge nudge. We all know the 10 dollars is for 4g no matter what Sprint calls it now. It ABSOLUTELY was for 4g service in the beginning before everyone complained and Sprint decided to just make everyone pay the fee, as the only phones that had to pay were 4g phones.
Ummm...cause it's fast. Being able to stream youtube, internet radio and HBO at my work desk is kind of awesome. Hope LTE is even better, and just as unlimited.
I get 4g everywhere now
Its almost been 2 years I have had a 4g phone and finally I have 4g where I need it
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Non 4g phones get this extra charge... its android's premium data need.. hint hint nudge nudge I still think it to be for 4g, but to be on the correct side its for PREMIUM data.
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Is there a way to force 4g roaming?

I live in phoenix arizona with no 4g coverage. We had to get rid of our home internet so no ponger able to use our airrave. I have roam control which works on every ics rom ive used but of course 3g speed isnt fast at all.. is there a way to 4g roam whether it be changing my prl or anything?
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elliwigy said:
I live in phoenix arizona with no 4g coverage. We had to get rid of our home internet so no ponger able to use our airrave. I have roam control which works on every ics rom ive used but of course 3g speed isnt fast at all.. is there a way to 4g roam whether it be changing my prl or anything?
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4G is WiMax, which is a completely separate radio. What you're asking is like saying, "Is there a way to enable Bluetooth roaming". Clearwire is the only WiMax provider anyways, so even if there was a way, there's no where else to run to.
there isnt anything else to roam off of....
short answer, not doable in any way shape form or fashion
thanks.. wasnt aware of the technology but that makes sense.. looks like ill be using slow 3g speeds lol, i can finally put my unltd data to use.. whats a good prl to use for 3g roaming since my house is a complete DEAD zone for sprint service lol.. i need to be able to download new roms or im screwed.. luckily i downloaded the cm9alpha3 this morning and right now on nocturnal venum v1.0 lol.. and i can now test my tethering
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thanks.. wasnt aware of the technology but that makes sense.. looks like ill be using slow 3g speeds lol, i can finally put my unltd data to use.. whats a good prl to use for 3g roaming since my house is a complete DEAD zone for sprint service lol.. i need to be able to download new roms or im screwed.. luckily i downloaded the cm9alpha3 this morning and right now on nocturnal venum v1.0 lol.. and i can now test my tethering
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If you roam onto Verizon too much, Sprint will terminate your contract. Just a head's up.
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If you roam onto Verizon too much, Sprint will terminate your contract. Just a head's up.
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Lol yea.. they can do that and i can go with a carrier that has service in my house.. i use almost no data at the moment and under 100 mins talk time a month.. i literraly have used less than .5 gb every month.. only will be roaming while home
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Lol yea.. they can do that and i can go with a carrier that has service in my house.. i use almost no data at the moment and under 100 mins talk time a month.. i literraly have used less than .5 gb every month.. only will be roaming while home
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they will only boot you if you are consistently using over 300MB a month in data while roaming or if 80% of your minutes are used while roaming (if you use a lot of minutes).
i use roam control everyday and have no issues and never have
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they will only boot you if you are consistently using over 300MB a month in data while roaming or if 80% of your minutes are used while roaming (if you use a lot of minutes).
i use roam control everyday and have no issues and never have
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Correction:
For data there's no set limit but around what you stated is a reasonable assumption. The 300 MB limit is for laptop cards and data-only plans. As for minutes, if more than half are used roaming, for 3 months in a row, you get a warning letter. Then you get the boot. I'm a former sprint employee who also received the warning letter lol
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Also, what is the point of buying a service that doesn't provide coverage where you live?
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Product F(RED) said:
Correction:
For data there's no set limit but around what you stated is a reasonable assumption. The 300 MB limit is for laptop cards and data-only plans. As for minutes, if more than half are used roaming, for 3 months in a row, you get a warning letter. Then you get the boot. I'm a former sprint employee who also received the warning letter lol
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It is clearly statrd in the TOS that 300mb/month is the limit for roaming.
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Also, what is the point of buying a service that doesn't provide coverage where you live?
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They have service here.. just not when im inside my house.. step outside and i get good reception.. doesnt matter because i will get internet soon and i don use my sprint data at all or the phone hardly ever.. there just is no 4g coverage
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bman55 said:
It is clearly statrd in the TOS that 300mb/month is the limit for roaming.
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That's for 3g cards/data only plans, on a phone plan its done by percentages and not a hard limit its 80%of total mins/month or 50%total data/month
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Sprint contract.

I need to get rid of my sprint contract, bill comes to about $100 a month and if i cancel etf is $350 way out of my budget. I need as much money as I can to pay off college. Any ideas? Help!!!
Change your PRL and force roam. After 2-3 months of excessive roaming, your canx'd.
How do you change your prl?
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How do you change your prl?
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Search for the custom prl thread in the general section
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Do I have to intall a custom PRL to roam or can I just use roam control?
You can force roam as long as you have root. However, you'll be roaming at 1x speeds. There are PRL's that will allow you to roam at 3G speeds. Check out the PRL thread.
After changing your PRL...it'll take a couple of months to rack it up, but 2-4 months vs. 24 month contract...your choice.
Download a giant torrent while forcing data roam (Roam Control). They'll kick you of in one month.
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What to do...

I just realized that I most likely will NEVER get LTE where I live, I don't even have 4G. So, what is the point of waiting to buy an LTE capable phone if it's never coming to me anyway? They can still use 3G right? It's kind of frustrating knowing that I won't be getting it in my area, and if I do, it will be years from now, I think that's kind of bull****!!!
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I just realized that I most likely will NEVER get LTE where I live, I don't even have 4G. So, what is the point of waiting to buy an LTE capable phone if it's never coming to me anyway? They can still use 3G right? It's kind of frustrating knowing that I won't be getting it in my area, and if I do, it will be years from now, I think that's kind of bull****!!!
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I would consider another carrier if service is that unbearable with no foreseeable 4G services ever coming to your area, assuming 3G service is horrible.
First of all, where do you live?
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First of all, where do you live?
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Lebanon, Pennsylvania; according to his location on profile. Sprint activity is really slow anywhere near him.
Verizon.
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Yes Lebanon, Pennsylvania. The sprint store at my local mall has to go outside to do activations..... That's just sad! I don't want to switch though. I like the phones, and the price. Plus I'm only paying $20 a month being a 3rd line on my parents plan.
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You would think a Sprint store would have an Airave...
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Mattix724 said:
You would think a Sprint store would have an Airave...
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Yes you would... But apparently not...
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Switch carriers bro. No sense paying good money for high-end service that isn't available.
For market penetration, as previously mentioned VZW or possibly AT&T would be your best bet.
There plans, and phones suck though! I'm used to unlimited data I don't think I could handle that. Do you think if I said something to sprint there might be some small chance they do something?
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Hmm.. I just checked some maps and it seems Lebanon doesn't have any actual Sprint towers. Your city is right next to some towers that are getting NV upgrades though but none in the actual city.
It might be a Shentel area, but I'm not certain. Shentel is a subsidiary / partner of sprint and is also doing "NV" roll-out in coordination with sprint.
Actually I do think you're in a shentel market as Lebanon is not far from Harrisburg which IS a shentel market. In that case, considering there's no Sprint towers in that entire region of Harrisburg and extending to Lebanon... you will probably get LTE and NV upgrades from Shentel.
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Hmm.. I just checked some maps and it seems Lebanon doesn't have any actual Sprint towers. Your city is right next to some towers that are getting NV upgrades though but none in the actual city.
It might be a Shentel area, but I'm not certain. Shentel is a subsidiary / partner of sprint and is also doing "NV" roll-out in coordination with sprint.
Actually I do think you're in a shentel market as Lebanon is not far from Harrisburg which IS a shentel market. In that case, considering there's no Sprint towers in that entire region of Harrisburg and extending to Lebanon... I'll you will get LTE and NV upgrades from Shentel.
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How did you figure all that out?
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Google
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E4GTUser94 said:
How did you figure all that out?
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Knowing where to go for information on network vision roll out...
cough www.s4gru.com cough
Move to a different town?
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slick_rick said:
Move to a different town?
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I'd rather not move from where I lived all my life just for better cell service. I just think they should put at least something here instead of nothing
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Join the club dude lol. Switch or quit cryin. Sprint doesn't care about smaller markets
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I'd rather not move from where I lived all my life just for better cell service. I just think they should put at least something here instead of nothing
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You do have something there. Your area is part of Shentel as I've stated. Shentel is a subsidiary/partner of sprint and is also part of the network vision roll out. Your area is serviced by Alcatel-Lucent and is making steady progress in Harrisburg which also is literally next door to Lebanon, PA. You WILL get LTE 800mhz/1900mhz and likely CW 2.5ghz and NV upgraded 3g. All sprint and affiliates will be upgraded to that standard. It takes time but last check, Shentel is making good progress.
Here is more info on your area..
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/8...market-shenandoah-valleyhagerstownharrisburg/

Sprint branded prepay service

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/04/sprint-confirms-pay-as-you-go-service/
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Ugh. Still same crappy service. I can't wait to leave sprint >.> its been 5 years for me waiting for them to get better... Any who the comments on that article are a whoot and I feel the same way.. No throttling sure...because our entire network is throttled love my unlimited 1X service that's <300kbps
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I'd like to try Sprint again, just to see if service in my area has gotten any better in the last 6 months. And without a contract would be nice.
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Mattix724 said:
I'd like to try Sprint again, just to see if service in my area has gotten any better in the last 6 months. And without a contract would be nice.
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I was excited at first.... But the phone selection is crappy.
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I'll never understand why companies do this (own several different brands). All it does is decrease the effectiveness of your marketing. Why does GM need to sell 20 different midsize vehicles all under different brands? Why does sprint need Virgin and Boost.
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Sprints prepay has no throttle like the others
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Sprints prepay has no throttle like the others
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For now...
Virgin didn't use to throttle speeds either.
Couldn't I just activate my E4GT on prepaid? It's never been activated on any account.
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Hopefully this might be a game changer for other carriers as well hence the fact they did this cuz the tmobile/metro pcs merger
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For now...
Virgin didn't use to throttle speeds either.
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Except this is an actual sprint branded service
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Couldn't I just activate my E4GT on prepaid? It's never been activated on any account.
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As long as it's a clean ESN they should. One quick chat with Sprint can confirm that.
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I'll never understand why companies do this (own several different brands). All it does is decrease the effectiveness of your marketing. Why does GM need to sell 20 different midsize vehicles all under different brands? Why does sprint need Virgin and Boost.
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Having different brands can be easier than trying to explain the differences between your products. For instance, Sprint's offerings have features like roaming, nights and weekends, mobile to mobile, LTE, etc, while Virgin Mobile doesn't. It's probably less confusing for the average consumer to view two brands than to have Sprint explain, "This is a 300 minute plan, but it's not the same as these other plans because it's missing these features." Instead, Sprint gets to market VM as a full service provider to people who don't know what they're missing.
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Having different brands can be easier than trying to explain the differences between your products. For instance, Sprint's offerings have features like roaming, nights and weekends, mobile to mobile, LTE, etc, while Virgin Mobile doesn't. It's probably less confusing for the average consumer to view two brands than to have Sprint explain, "This is a 300 minute plan, but it's not the same as these other plans because it's missing these features." Instead, Sprint gets to market VM as a full service provider to people who don't know what they're missing.
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But Sprint already sells multiple plans, so that doesn't really fix anything.
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Hopefully this might be a game changer for other carriers as well hence the fact they did this cuz the tmobile/metro pcs merger
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Tmobile has it too for 70,not sure about throttling though.
Anyone know if call forwarding and/or or roaming will work? Tweeted Engadget to no avail.
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Tmobile has it too for 70,not sure about throttling though.
Anyone know if call forwarding and/or or roaming will work? Tweeted Engadget to no avail.
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From what i understood no roaming and no lte ..so ...bummer
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jlear3 said:
Tmobile has it too for 70,not sure about throttling though.
Anyone know if call forwarding and/or or roaming will work? Tweeted Engadget to no avail.
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Hspa+ is plenty fast don't need lte
And its unthrottled

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