Im new to this device and have been reading through the dev forums and notice that everyone uses different recoveries. Does it matter really wich one you use? I like twrp but I had problems with it when I had my g2x. Is there a deffinitave answer as to wich one works best on this device? (CWM or TWRP) I know that this is mostly based on user preference but it seems that some custom roms will only install on a specific recovery.
Thanks in advance.
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personally everyone has there own opinion i use CWM on my vibrant & GS2 but i use TWRP on my nexus s and nexus 7 not sure what my mytouch uses but CWM for always will and always has worked well without any bugs or hiccups that TWRP sometimes has but TWRP is very simple and straight forward its all on whats your preference though if you are going to use TWRP the latest is 2.6 and you should not flash it through GOO manager use the odin file when you get there
TWRP is by far a better way to go, not that CWM is a bad recovery, its just not updated frequently, and with the new scripts flashing jb roms sometimes things don't always work right, I've used both and I think twrp is a better choice, I've never had an issue with it like I have on cwm, plus with twrp u won't need superwipe scripts or anything like that anymore, overall I think its a more complete recovery
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sorry before, may be this is a stupid thread for asking common stuffs about recovery
but i just wanna know for this time what's your favourite custom recovery between cwm and ext4 recovery touch (include the version) or may be the others that u think the best. thank you guys
Probably ext 4
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Both are awesome, but I like CWM more
I've used both and both are great.
I personally find that CWM (ClockworkMod) is a little more straightforward and has a cleaner look to it. CWM now has touch, albeit it's not as feature or interface rich as 4ext's touch interface.
I should point out, however, that using CWM with some ROM's, I was unable to make selections when the ROM gives you options during flashing. For example, when I was flashing a rom that gave the option of installing the OC daemon, CWM didn't give me the option, it just said installation (of the OC daemon) cancelled, whereas 4ext said yes or no, and I was able to choose.
I use ROM Manager (+ premium) from the market to flash back to clockwork mod when I've had 4ext installed, and use 4ext Recovery Control to flash 4ext back.
I would post the links but xda says I can't yet Not new to android or xda by any means, but new to posting
Hope this helps
The recovery is called 4EXT, and that's what you should refer to it, as to avoid any sort of misunderstanding with the "ext4" filesystem.
With that said, 4EXT Touch is the best you can get. It has a lot of bugs fixed over from CWM. It is also fully compatible with ROM Manager.
Link to the 4EXT site: http://4ext.net/
4ext touch is what I prefer. I started with cwm and have mad love for it, but after one of the updates is was working awkward for me and I tried 4ext and never looked back.
I might add cwm is fixed now, and works flawlessly.
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They both flash roms fine. So to me, eh who cares? I mean no offense to the respective devs, but I compare it to who makes a better key to my car? Who cares as long as it works. Imho.
P.s. I know some people like fancy keyless entry and keyless start and panic mode.... so for them it makes a difference.
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I'm really trying to understand the difference. Is it more a personal preference in using a touch interface & options, or are there some core differences as to why you should use one over the other, especially in flashing the ICS ports we're using on our T989's.
In one post I've been reading, they're instructing you to use 'touch recovery' to flash the ROM. And in other post I've been reading, a highly trusted member said he won't use touch anymore because of issues he's had with it. I've seen it go both ways many times.
I read in another post, that one member thought the 2 versions handled the cache partition differently. If that's the case, doesn't using thederekjay's Darkside SuperWipe make that null & void anyway, because it formats, erases and aligns all the disks partitions properly anyway before you flash?
I've never used touch to flash an ICS ROM, or any ROM yet, and I'm certainly not against it. But I haven't had a lot of the issues that some are having either to make me go that way. So I'm trying to determine, or see if you guys really think that using one version over the other can really make a difference in the stability of the ROM; and if so...then why? Thanks!
And of course; if the OP tells me to use touch recovery to flash their ROM, I will certainly do so if I flash the ROM. Just trying to get a better understanding.
I use touch. Its just a personal preference. Then again the errors are a hit or miss thing.
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recovery version doesn't matter. it would be quite cumbersome to flash a different recovery every time i wanted a different rom. Touch vs no touch just affects GUI and user interacting, nothing more.
When in RECOVERY I want stability ....no touch gimmicks necessary if there's even the slightest chance of an error.
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bzlik88 said:
When in RECOVERY I want stability ....no touch gimmicks necessary if there's even the slightest chance of an error.
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word. having to button press your way thru the menues is a security feature.
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Touch is the best way!!
I used for much time the Classic CWM, until I want flash the new ICS Rom; I have a lot problems, boot loop, kernel loop, reboots, FCS…. My solution was the new CWM Touch Version.
After I make all wipes with this CWM Touch version all things on ICS for T-Mobile t989 works very very well.
In my opinion non-touch recovery works best because its stable and touch recovery is still experimental and can still have some bugs.
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I used for much time the Classic CWM, until I want flash the new ICS Rom; I have a lot problems, boot loop, kernel loop, reboots, FCS…. My solution was the new CWM Touch Version.
After I make all wipes with this CWM Touch version all things on ICS for T-Mobile t989 works very very well.
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I had the same experience. Which was confusing.
I figured it was just people not flashing properly which was causing the issues.
So I used non-touch CWM. Tried 4 times with various combinations of wiping to try and get it to boot. To no avail.
Flash touch CWM, flash once, works perfectly. So confused as to why that is.
So this is what confuses me. I was just reading through some posts at the 'NexusMod' thread. A member posted that some of the issues another member was having with the ROM was due to the user using standard recovery. He said standard recovery makes the cache partition as r/o instead of r/w and this is causing some of the issues when people flash the ICS ROMS.
Really? So in GB ROMS it doesn't matter if it's r/o because I've always used standard recovery and never had, or heard of these issues before related to the recovery?
So there's that big of a difference between the 2 versions of recovery that one leaves the cache partition as r/o and the other r/w. That seems pretty major to me if true. I'm not doubting anybody here, just trying to get a better understanding so I know which recovery to use.
I like and just feel safer using the non-touch version. But if need be, I could go touch... If I need too.
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I'm just curious what the general consensus is out there between these two recovery modules. I've always used cwm rec until recently when I couldn't test flash ANY cm10 jb roms. I had to install twrp in order to flash them and it worked right away. It nice to have touchscreen controls but newer cwm's have that now too so I guess I just want to be sure I'm not losing anything or missing out on anything by leaving cwm rec for twrp .. and many say to switch anyways but what is the general feeling out there and what are you others using?
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TWRP to me just has a better layout and mor responsive touch UI.. Havent had any problems with it so far not being able to flash or anything so...
+1 TWRP is overall smoother and easier to use IMO, and 0 issues so far flashing anything or restoring backups.
I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:
My favorite part about TWRP is that you can enable compression on nandroid backups.
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cellgeek said:
I've used CWM since it was available for the Samsung Captivate. Great program. I'm now using TWRP, and I like it better. It appears to be faster, quicker backups and allows for more options. TWRP feels more responsive than Touch CWM (and I paid for that program).
Two points to consider. Backups for each program are only able to be restored by that program. Meaning, you can't restore a CWM backup using TWRP and you can't restore a TWRP backup using CWM.
If you use TWRP v2.2.1, the INTERNAL SD card mount point is \data\media instead of extSdCard. That's really confusing for CWM users and really annoying general.
You can flash recovery zips in both CWM or TWRP.. I flash my .zips from the external card now that I'm using TWRP.....
Both great programs....:good:
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Yep, I too had been using cwm since my first Captivate...and have always enjoyed it but have also recently switched to TWRP and find it to be better and plan to use it now.as.my only recovery.
It is unfortunate but true that u can't restore backups from the others program so all.my old.cwm nandroid backups are basically useless now unless I reinstall cwm but that's OK moving forward I guess.
I too was a bit confused by the internal.SD card file.system location in data/media and still.don't understand it but as long as u know then its OK. So far it sounds like twrp is the future of recovery and more and more people are switching...and the touch function and extra options.are.nice.features.
The bottom line is as long as I am not missing out on something or losing some important functionality then I'm fine with the switch from cwm and.will.stay with TWRP but will never deny the popularity and usefulness of cwm and how it got me going in the whole.game of flashing and.mod'ing phones.
TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.
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TWRP is by far the best recovery I have ever used. I couldn't imagine life without it now.
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I totally agree. I was using CWM on my Thrill and didn't get a chance to use TWRP till I got my Fire. Now I will only use TWRP. CWM is an excellent recovery but I like the features of TWRP better.
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a lot of the rooting/recovery guides are suggesting to use clockwork recovery, is that just because twrp wasn't really supported back then? any issues noticed with using twrp on the sgs3?
as with all programs there is no "best" just personal preference: try one, then the other and settle on that which suits yoiur phone and needs "the best"
I tried TWRP and went back to CWM -- many others, obviously, tried and preferred TWRP
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.
hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers
totti107 said:
hey guys please give me tips on the twrp
i gave up on cwm i couldn't install cm10 on my galaxy s3 i747m ROGERS (at&t)
so can someone walk me through the twrp way of flashing cm10 rom
pleaaaaaaasee
cheers
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Exactly the same as cwm. Except all wiping option are put together in the wipe menu, you can select multiple file to flash on after another and fix permissions is in the advanced menu.
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CZ Eddie said:
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
Also keep in mind that it's easier to screw up on TWRP because it is touch-based. I've accidentally pressed buttons without meaning to. It's only a matter of time before that gets me into trouble.
I just wish CWM would remove the thousand "no" that you have to sort through before getting to a "yes". And I wish they would update it more often.
I did pay for my ClockworkMOD, btw.
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I use the touch version of cwm and am very thankful for the thousands no's, help mitigate those "oh crap" moments that touch screen introduces.
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CZ Eddie said:
TWRP is easier & more efficient to use. Bar none.
But with that said, IMO CWM is still the better recovery for some situations. First, there is more support for CWM still.
Second, if you use a ROM's built in functionality to update itself (like AOKP has), then that requires CWM as far as I can tell.
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Task and ktoonzes aokp ota updater now works with the newest twrp.
TWRP. I like its layout, and love that I can build a stack of .zips to flash. (Not sure if CWM has that feature, won't be causing me to switch over to it.)
Encrytion and backups!
The most impressive feature of TWRP hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.. TWRP supports flashing ROM's on devices that have been fully encrypted !
Also, it allows for backup and restore of ROMs on encrypted devices that neither CWM nor CWM Touch support.
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Is one safer than the other for the Galaxy Nexus (Verizon)? I used the Galaxy Nexus Root Toolkit, and left the default options to unlock and root, so it should have installed TWRP, but I can't seem to get into it.....before I mess with it further, shall I just try to flash the ClockworkMod recoevery instead? That's what I have used for years and I am used to it.
Its mostly user preferred. I like twrp because it has way more features than cwm. It also backs up and restores faster than cwm IMO. U can also change the theme with twrp. The main thing is they both do the same thing.
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TWRP is easier to navigate also an has a way better ui.
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Is one safer than the other for the Galaxy Nexus (Verizon)? I used the Galaxy Nexus Root Toolkit, and left the default options to unlock and root, so it should have installed TWRP, but I can't seem to get into it.....before I mess with it further, shall I just try to flash the ClockworkMod recoevery instead? That's what I have used for years and I am used to it.
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Use goomanager to install the latest twrp if you're having trouble. Like the post above it's user preference but from what I've seen twrp is recommended over cwm
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I don't think you have to worry about one being not as safe as the other. They're both totally dependable if you know how to use them. The one thing I would say is that TWRP tends to be little faster than CWM, such which can sometimes hang a bit after certain using certain functions, but that's really not a difference maker in my opinion. Otherwise, each has a few features that the other doesn't, but both have all the core functions most people need.
I have always used clockwork. I tried TWRP a few times and it felt very unpolished and buggy. I was forced to go back to CWM and just decided to stay.
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The last couple of versions of twrp have been pretty buggy, so I scanned the twrp dev thread for clues to a good stable version. Settled on 2.3.2.1 and it has tested out well so far. No issues.
It's just a lot easier and faster to use than cwm imo.
I started with twrp. I just switched to cwm touch as I just recently couldn't restore my large backups with twrp. Not sure how cwm is going to work haven't restored yet but it worked fine on my x2.
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definitely TWRP, way easier to navigate IMO. i used to use CWM but once i switched to TWRP i wont go back. even with the latest versions having a few bugs still like it. all in all very smooth and simple to navigate.
Coming from the Evo 4g, cwm was garbage and not suggested at all over amonra. But seeing as technology has made major advances, I'm wondering if I should try cwmt. Right now using 2.4.4 twrp, but am going to flash cwm soon.
Could anybody tell me the pros and cons between twrp and cwm? What do you guys use?
Furthermore, goo.im or ROM manager, both seem equally good, but curious as to pros and cons
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I think most are using TWRP (myself included). The T989 seems to get good support. CWM had some issues in its older versions, but many say everything is fine with the newest versions. It may just be a matter of preference. I have avoided using GooManager and tend to flash the newer TWRP versions when a zip becomes available. Some have reported problems in the past with updating through the app.
I have read that nandroids are not compatible cross-platform (i.e. TWRP nandroid cannot be restored with CWM and vice versa)...something to keep in mind if you want to try them both before you decide.
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I think most are using TWRP (myself included). The T989 seems to get good support. CWM had some issues in its older versions, but many say everything is fine with the newest versions. It may just be a matter of preference. I have avoided using GooManager and tend to flash the newer TWRP versions when a zip becomes available. Some have reported problems in the past with updating through the app.
I have read that nandroids are not compatible cross-platform (i.e. TWRP nandroid cannot be restored with CWM and vice versa)...something to keep in mind if you want to try them both before you decide.
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I'm not complaining, coming from the EVO 4g TWRP looked like a godsend but we weren't able to utilize it properly because nobody updated the roms with the new script. Playing with it now I LOVE it, but I'm curious to try cwm, never in my life have I ever used it except to root both of my phones. It looks so forbidden and talked down upon, it REALLY makes me want to try it.
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Cwm v5x you need have other tool as dark side super wipe,....if only use cwm you cant root new rom because not clear.
But with newest version. You dont need others. Cwm easy to use and supported with Rom Manager, you can buy & download it at play store.
Twrp have new version and still good to now.
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What recovery you use is just a matter of preference this forum is 90% opinion .. But I highly recommend updating to newest versions of CWM or TWRP..
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