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[Q] CWM/TWRP: ROM Preference when flashing?

So, I have looked on the forums for this and have come up empty handed and am unsure if you have to install one recovery over another to install specific ROMs. I have noticed that one catagory is touch wiz and the other is akop or cm10 and I was wondering if you had to install the twrp recovery when flashing the touch wiz or vice versa for cmw. I know specific ROMs that say you should for flash updates and that you can flash the update using cwm over twrp but some do not specify that you have to have that recovery in order to flash a new ROM. Im asking so I dont make a stupid mistake when flashing ROMs just because I want a new one like I have done with the last one I have had. Sorry if this is a noob question. I hope this post will help clarify any differances since I havent found one in search other then what recovery is better then the other.

You can flash from whatever recover you want. Even the ones that say things like "CWM IS NOT SUPPORTED" still work just fine.
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VenomousViper said:
So, I have looked on the forums for this and have come up empty handed and am unsure if you have to install one recovery over another to install specific ROMs. I have noticed that one catagory is touch wiz and the other is akop or cm10 and I was wondering if you had to install the twrp recovery when flashing the touch wiz or vice versa for cmw. I know specific ROMs that say you should for flash updates and that you can flash the update using cwm over twrp but some do not specify that you have to have that recovery in order to flash a new ROM. Im asking so I dont make a stupid mistake when flashing ROMs just because I want a new one like I have done with the last one I have had. Sorry if this is a noob question. I hope this post will help clarify any differances since I havent found one in search other then what recovery is better then the other.
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Both custom recoveries work fine. My personal preference is TWRP. The touch interface is great and you save wear and tear on the volume and power buttons by not having to use them. Also very easy to rename your Nandroid backup. You can install 1 over the other with no problem. You don't have to worry about the latest zip file if you use Rom Manager to install the latest version of CWM and use Goo Manager to install latest version of TWRP. Be aware that TWRP cannot read your CWM Nandroid backups, so you would need to install CWM again to restore from them.

I don't know if TWRP has been fixed yet using goo. You might want to read this before preceding.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32732801
Use the link there.
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nuclearmeltdown2046 said:
I don't know if TWRP has been fixed yet using goo. You might want to read this before preceding.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32732801
Use the link there.
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yuuup, make sure the recovery version of TWRP is 2.3.0.2...the 2.3.0.0 will not flash images with multiple parts..

Naddict said:
yuuup, make sure the recovery version of TWRP is 2.3.0.2...the 2.3.0.0 will not flash images with multiple parts..
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Hmm. I am using 2.3.1.0 which I think is the latest version. (dated 10/15 and installed with Goo)

Flashing rom help

So is it possible to flash a rom without an sd card installed from cwm recovery? Thinking of rooting and installing a custom rom to see if it helps with my messaging issues. If so can someone explain his? I would think when I wipe in recovery it would wipe the rom off of my phone correct?
Thanks in advance
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stricklerjosh said:
So is it possible to flash a rom without an sd card installed from cwm recovery? Thinking of rooting and installing a custom rom to see if it helps with my messaging issues. If so can someone explain his? I would think when I wipe in recovery it would wipe the rom off of my phone correct?
Thanks in advance
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You can't root without an SD card in the first place, atleast I don't think you can do it on the GS3

Root and ROM Help. Yes Root/ROM is doable without external microSD Storage
cbass15 said:
You can't root without an SD card in the first place, atleast I don't think you can do it on the GS3
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Sure you can root a Sprint SGS3 without an external SD card. I did it, just used heimdall to flash TWRP (sudo heimdall flash --recovery TWRP.img) and then booted into it to TWRP and flashed TeamEpic-Root-from-Recovery-v5
Would be similar on Windows, would just use Odin and its TWRP or CWM image.
No SD card was required, just used adb push to get the file on the phone. Ironically enough to the *cough* /sdcard directory on the phones _internal_ storage ..
Also remember some of the most hackable Rooted, Custom ROM supported devices don't even have external storage --> Nexus7 for Example *Grin*..
Have flashing fun ! :victory:

sponix2ipfw said:
Sure you can root a Sprint SGS3 without an external SD card. I did it, just used heimdall to flash TWRP (sudo heimdall flash --recovery TWRP.img) and then booted into it to TWRP and flashed TeamEpic-Root-from-Recovery-v5
Would be similar on Windows, would just use Odin and its TWRP or CWM image.
No SD card was required, just used adb push to get the file on the phone. Ironically enough to the *cough* /sdcard directory on the phones _internal_ storage ..
Have flashing fun !
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Thank you for confirming this. I actually thought about that after posting that.

Well actually I wasn't even talking about rooting. Was going to follow the step by step in the general wiki to root, was actually talking about flashing a rom after I have root and cwm or twrp recovery. Btw what are the difference between the two recoveries?
thankd
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stricklerjosh said:
Well actually I wasn't even talking about rooting. Was going to follow the step by step in the general wiki to root, was actually talking about flashing a rom after I have root and cwm or twrp recovery. Btw what are the difference between the two recoveries?
thankd
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Too many to list. Most prefer twrp but i would suggest you try both and pick yourself. Easiest root method assuming you use windows is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1963812. Once you have root use rom manager to get cwm or goo manager to get twrp. You can flash one recovery from inside the other and all available recoveries can be found here http://goo.im/devs/billard412/Flashable_recovery_US_GS3 in recovery flashable form.
Or here for flashing in odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900492

Well can you tell me how to put a file on my phone without a SD card and flash it without it wiping when I do a wipe before I flash? That's what I don't understand. Am I going to be able to flash roms in cwm or twrp without having a SD card. Like can I put then somewhere on my phones internal memory that won't get erased when I do a wipe to install a new rom.
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stricklerjosh said:
Well can you tell me how to put a file on my phone without a SD card and flash it without it wiping when I do a wipe before I flash? That's what I don't understand. Am I going to be able to flash roms in cwm or twrp without having a SD card. Like can I put then somewhere on my phones internal memory that won't get erased when I do a wipe to install a new rom.
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Your internal storage does not get touched by a wipe in cwm/twrp. Only stock recovery will wipe your storage so just load up the file you intend to flash then factory reset and flash.

TWRP Is alot easier to navigate in my opinion, and a lot easier to download..

So my best bet is use your one click root, then install twrp or cwm via the playstire apps. Then I am free to wipe and flash any rom I want. Place it on my internal memory on my phone and flash away. Sorry just had evo and hero and never had to deal with Odin and some of these things. Thanks for your help
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Well odins not bad and ya the root method i linked you takes about 30 seconds and once you have root you use the apps to gain recovery and find roms. And as guidence so you dont need to worry about wiping your card on accident heres a picture to reference if need be

And if you're not familiar with odin use the attached version of it to make stuff much easier and keep it handy as Odin will be your best friend when you inevitably have that first soft brick

cbass15 said:
TWRP Is alot easier to navigate in my opinion, and a lot easier to download..
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Easier to navigate? CWM has a touch version too. And easier to download? Each has at least one dedicated app to do it with ease. And while twrp has its perks i think it causes problems and there is still too much stuff out there that needs cwm and wont flash right with twrp. Thats why i told the op to try both and not go just based on opinions

Billiard, to root should I go with your one click root or the one in the general sticky thread? I was planning on using the other one so I could get used to Odin but does either have and advantage? They do the same thing right?
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I could be wrong but i believe the one youre referring too is where u flash a recovery in odin. Pull battery then boot to recovery, and flash a root zip in recovery. Ill double check but i mean the end result will be the same but that method tends to be a PIA with a bunch of extra steps. The one i linked you does all of the work for you. I think its as easy as it gets for someone knew to rooting the s3. Chainfire is a beast
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Ya I just checked I was right. Not talking down on skunkapes method but thats too many steps i think my method is way easier. And with my custom odin i linked above you dont have to worry about checking boxes and what not i modded my version of odin to have only whats needed.

Thanks man. Going to try and do it all tomorrow morning. Will hit u up if I have some questions.
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At a loss with cwm

Hello,
So I've been rooted for a while now, i was going to install a custom rom but decided not to a few months ago. Tonight, i decided to install aokp, however my phone would not go into cwm, only stock recover. I could have sworn it was installed, but fine, so i installed it once again with auto reboot in odin checked, and it still wouldnt enter cwm. I then tried to install it again with auto reboot checked off so i could see if i could enter it without the reboot. I ended up getting into it, but then when i was taking a NANDROID, it just froze on one of the first steps. Fine, reboot, try to enter cwm again. Nope, just stock android recovery. I am sure im installing it correctly and pressing the right button combos. I am at a total loss for what is stopping me from being able to enter cwm. I hope you guys know/help me find whats going on.
Thanks!!!
Zay

maybe you didn't actually "root" your phone to begin with lol
are you sure you have "superuser" or "superSU" app?
anyways to get CWM or TWRP recovery you need
find a up-to-date CWM or TWRP (if i spell teamwin recovery correctly)
download it
put your phone in ODIN Mode (download mode) by power + vol down + home
flash the recovery
i personally think twrp is better
they just released a new version which support ExFat
and all you need is just use terminal on your phone to install it.

pcshano said:
maybe you didn't actually "root" your phone to begin with lol
are you sure you have "superuser" or "superSU" app?
anyways to get CWM or TWRP recovery you need
find a up-to-date CWM or TWRP (if i spell teamwin recovery correctly)
download it
put your phone in ODIN Mode (download mode) by power + vol down + home
flash the recovery
i personally think twrp is better
they just released a new version which support ExFat
and all you need is just use terminal on your phone to install it.
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Yes my phones rooted.
If you actually read my post, you'd know that that is EXACTLY what I am doing.
Thanks anyways though..

Zay48 said:
If you actually read my post, you'd know that that is EXACTLY what I am doing.
Thanks anyways though..
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i have no idea how i missed that odin part on your part... i read everything but somehow i just missed that part alone 0_0
anyways
try install twrp recovery instead then
by using terminal emulator
can get it here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm&hl=en
latest twrp can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074951

pcshano said:
i have no idea how i missed that odin part on your part... i read everything but somehow i just missed that part alone 0_0
anyways
try install twrp recovery instead then
by using terminal emulator
can get it here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm&hl=en
latest twrp can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074951
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Aha its alright
I'd like to stick with cwm though, its what im familiar with. If nobody else has an answer i'll try it tomorrow though.
Thanks

Zay48 said:
Aha its alright
I'd like to stick with cwm though, its what im familiar with. If nobody else has an answer i'll try it tomorrow though.
Thanks
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if you still want cwm then i guess you can try flash stock rom and root it again and see
since you're going to flash a custom rom which will delete all your data anyways

Zay48 said:
Aha its alright
I'd like to stick with cwm though, its what im familiar with. If nobody else has an answer i'll try it tomorrow though.
Thanks
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Stock ROM has a built in script that reloads standard android recovery when it boots. The only way to keep it is to keep Odin auto reboot unchecked, boot directly in and make your nandroid/flash custom. Once you are on a custom ROM CWM will stick.
On a side note TWRP is a very nice recovery and many people find it much easier to use. If you insist on CWM, make sure you have the latest version. You might need to flash CWM again if you had a bad flash. It shouldn't freeze up on a nandroid.
Many people never experienced this because they flashed during early ICS when the device was released. The change was an update just before JB was released which caused this little annoying script to appear.
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RPelham said:
Stock ROM has a built in script that reloads standard android recovery when it boots. The only way to keep it is to keep Odin auto reboot unchecked, boot directly in and make your nandroid/flash custom. Once you are on a custom ROM CWM will stick.
On a side note TWRP is a very nice recovery and many people find it much easier to use. If you insist on CWM, make sure you have the latest version. You might need to flash CWM again if you had a bad flash. It shouldn't freeze up on a nandroid.
Many people never experienced this because they flashed during early ICS when the device was released. The change was an update just before JB was released which caused this little annoying script to appear.
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Thankyou!! That makes sense ;p. When I did get to start making a nandroid last night but it froze, right before it froze it said the free space on my sdcard was 1612 mb (or something like that) This is wrong, I have the 16gb i747 so I have 11.95 gb of usable storage for apps and such, after deleting some big apps I have 4.93 gb available, my sdcard is a 16 gb sdcard which has 12.06 gb available. Do the math and I have enough room on my sdcard for a nandroid, so what could be causing cwm to freeze and report false information?

Zay48 said:
Thankyou!! That makes sense ;p. When I did get to start making a nandroid last night but it froze, right before it froze it said the free space on my sdcard was 1612 mb (or something like that) This is wrong, I have the 16gb i747 so I have 11.95 gb of usable storage for apps and such, after deleting some big apps I have 4.93 gb available, my sdcard is a 16 gb sdcard which has 12.06 gb available. Do the math and I have enough room on my sdcard for a nandroid, so what could be causing cwm to freeze and report false information?
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what version of CWM are you currently running?

you could always try to download GooManager or ROM Manager from the Play Store.
then from one of those, install the custom recovery, GooManager for TWRP or ROM Manager for CWM.

xBeerdroiDx said:
what version of CWM are you currently running?
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3.0.7

Zay48 said:
3.0.7
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That is a very out dated version as they are now up to version 6.0.2.3. I would try getting an updated CWM. that could very well fix your freezing/reporting problems...
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CWM is very very funny and one of the reasons I switched to TWRP was for stability
In my experience errors come up on restoring images when 1) you don't use the same version you backed up the image with 2) you don't get to CWM through the same method you used while making the image (ie through ROM manager with your phone on).

zetsui said:
CWM is very very funny and one of the reasons I switched to TWRP was for stability
In my experience errors come up on restoring images when 1) you don't use the same version you backed up the image with 2) you don't get to CWM through the same method you used while making the image (ie through ROM manager with your phone on).
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He's not having a problem restoring images, he's having a problem making his first nandroid.
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Zay48 said:
3.0.7
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Holy hell! CWM 3.0 is still around? Like RP said, you're recovery is severely outdated.
RPelham said:
That is a very out dated version as they are now up to version 6.0.2.3. I would try getting an updated CWM. that could very well fix your freezing/reporting problems...
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This.
Also, I was a long time CWM touch user on my old NS. After using TWRP on this phone, I will never look back at CWM. TWRP is much more user friendly. Give it a shot OP unless you're adamant in using CWM. Again, update your recovery.

Download rom manager and update your cwm and then try making a nandroid again.
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CrackerTeg said:
Holy hell! CWM 3.0 is still around? Like RP said, you're recovery is severely outdated.
This.
Also, I was a long time CWM touch user on my old NS. After using TWRP on this phone, I will never look back at CWM. TWRP is much more user friendly. Give it a shot OP unless you're adamant in using CWM. Again, update your recovery.
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I was also a CWM user, but after I got my s3 and my first flash of CWM on the s3 hard bricked my phone, I decided to use TWRP. Little did I know I was missing out on what TWRP had to offer. I won't ever turn back to CWM again lol.
That said... If you insist in CWM, this is the guide I followed to get a successful CWM flash. (This was the CWM I was running successfully for the brief time TWRP disbanded.)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_d2att
The above is for the ATT variant only. If you have a different variant and can't find the link, post back and I'll find it for you
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CrackerTeg said:
Holy hell! CWM 3.0 is still around? Like RP said, you're recovery is severely outdated.
This.
Also, I was a long time CWM touch user on my old NS. After using TWRP on this phone, I will never look back at CWM. TWRP is much more user friendly. Give it a shot OP unless you're adamant in using CWM. Again, update your recovery.
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apparently it's still around because new android users who want to root use those guides with outdated files

RPelham said:
I was also a CWM user, but after I got my s3 and my first flash of CWM on the s3 hard bricked my phone, I decided to use TWRP. Little did I know I was missing out on what TWRP had to offer. I won't ever turn back to CWM again lol.
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Preach brother!

Rooted using Oding and Root66, how do I flash custom recovery?

Ok, so I finally got root with ODIN and the Root66 file. Now I want to flash a custom ROM. First I have to flash a custom recovery right guys? How do I do that. Last time I had rooted, I had TWRP which I liked. Where do I get TWRP and how do I flash it if it applies to android 4.1.2?

Download goo manager from the play store, open it and press menu and select install OpenRecoveryScript. Just follow along with the pop ups and you'll have TWRP in no time.
Then you'll be able to flash roms...stay in the t999 section and you really shouldn't run into any problems. Oh and look into backing up your imei before you start to flash roms.
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using goo manager on t999n
Using the method mentioned above does not work for me, no support yet for the newer one. Are there really any good roms yet for the T999n?

r20zbk said:
Using the method mentioned above does not work for me, no support yet for the newer one. Are there really any good roms yet for the T999n?
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Do you really want TWRP or would you be okay with CWM? I know you can just download ROM manager and flash CWM. If not, you can use [ROOT]Recovery Tools - Flasher from the Play Store.
It can flash TWRP or CWM. I use it for flashing CWM Touch on my Nexus 7. It works great.

TheKid1 said:
Ok, so I finally got root with ODIN and the Root66 file. Now I want to flash a custom ROM. First I have to flash a custom recovery right guys? How do I do that. Last time I had rooted, I had TWRP which I liked. Where do I get TWRP and how do I flash it if it applies to android 4.1.2?
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Also answered yesterday in your other thread.
r20zbk said:
Using the method mentioned above does not work for me, no support yet for the newer one. Are there really any good roms yet for the T999n?
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use d2tmo recovery. Read the T999L/T999N thread. (Link in sig)
Purplezigar said:
Do you really want TWRP or would you be okay with CWM? I know you can just download ROM manager and flash CWM. If not, you can use [ROOT]Recovery Tools - Flasher from the Play Store.
It can flash TWRP or CWM. I use it for flashing CWM Touch on my Nexus 7. It works great.
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Read 2nd post. Goo Manager is for TWRP.
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Reboot recovery options

When I go into recovery now, it goes into clockwork. I have twrp on my phone also. How can I swith it so that twrp is my default recovery.

you can try here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1793224
err on the side of kindness

Went to that post and read and read. Didn't see anything to help me. Can I uninstall cwm or can I switch between cwm and twrp?

tepeee said:
Went to that post and read and read. Didn't see anything to help me. Can I uninstall can or can I switch between both?
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It is possible to switch between the two. I don't recall at the moment how, but give me a few minutes to search.

dawgdoc said:
It is possible to switch between the two. I don't recall at the moment how, but give me a few minutes to search.
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I couldn't find what I was looking for, but if you have a TWRP .zip on your phone you can flash it with CWM. From what I have read backups created in CWM are not read by TWRP, nandroids may be seen, however.

Nandroid are not compatible between the two. But you are correct that all you have to do is flash twrp from cwm. Then reboot
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When I go to ROM manager it says current recovery is twrp but still boots into cwm. I would like to just remove cwm.

Download the tar file from here
http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/d2att
Flash in Odin.
Or find a zip file version and flash with cwm.
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Thanks Doc. Do you think because I was using clockwork when flashing CM11 that might have been why might data didn't work?

Very doubtful.
As I asked in your other thread, we need to know your current bootloader and baseband versions. CM11 doesn't work with anything but the 4.4.2 builds.
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When I flash that twrp tar file thru Odin, do I need to do anything to my phone first or is it safe just to put that over the existing recoveries already on my phone?

Just flash over your current one.
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