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[ARTICLE] Possible reason for battery drain in-app ads

http://gizmodo.com/5894572/in+app-ads-are-destroying-your-battery-life
In-app ads possibly draining more battery with location pinging ads even if apps are not currently active. If true, are there certain countermeasures to prevent this? I have Juice Defender Ultimate but I can't really tell if it does anything measurable when it comes to managing apps.

Download rom toolbox pro and use the ad blocker to block all ads. Mine blocked over 50,000 attempts in 1 day!
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Does Toolbox Pro have any advantages over Adfree?

Adfree always let ads through for me. And plus rom toolbox is absolutely everything in one app...root explorer..app manager(just like titanium backup)..font changer...rom manager..and you can theme your rom with it, change boot animation etc.
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Towle said:
Adfree always let ads through for me. And plus rom toolbox is absolutely everything in one app...root explorer..app manager(just like titanium backup)..font changer...rom manager..and you can theme your rom with it, change boot animation etc.
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Agreed, Rom Toolbox is the way to go

And then the carriers complain about lack of spectrum and want to charge you more for data? Effing ponderous.
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been noticing the updated xda app does this... i see it eatting little bits of cpu hours after ive been using it.
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Wow ROM toolbox is the bomb...thx guys for the suggestion!
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Towle said:
Download rom toolbox pro and use the ad blocker to block all ads. Mine blocked over 50,000 attempts in 1 day!
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Cool. How do you know how many you've blocked per day?

mettleh3d said:
Cool. How do you know how many you've blocked per day?
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It says in rom toolbox under the ad blocker settings.
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Towle said:
It says in rom toolbox under the ad blocker settings.
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Under Total URLs blocked?
Edit: Those of you using Rom Toolbox are seeing much improved battery results?
if so, Great tool thanks guys!

Does ROM Toolbox also block web browser ads?
I have Adaway but it doesn't always block everything.

demonwind said:
Does ROM Toolbox also block web browser ads?
I have Adaway but it doesn't always block everything.
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For the few days I've been using it, it blocks most. Wish it blocked ads in angry birds
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i just wanted to point out this comment by jordo_99 to that article...
jordo_99 said:
Since there seem to be people trying to inform everyone else about how this works I'm just going to explain it to you all...
1) ad blockers will block the ad request from being sent out to the internet...there is still a line of code from the app saying "buahaha, show these asshats my ad" but AdFree is all like "I pity the foo who has to look at ads. Access DENIED!"
2) Such "ad requests" are put out infrequently----meaning infrequently to a computer...so probably every few minutes or however often the ad would change...some apps will only show 1 ad per launch...some cycle regularly so it's always different. Regardless a few lines of code requesting an ad is very insigificant.
3) because the request is denied by the ad blocker (and preventing the phone from initiating a data signal) your battery usage is negligible at best...the few lines of code per minute that are being parsed and then denied are as insignificant and a few blades of grass on your lawn as far as your phone is concerned.
4) The display on any phone is what uses the most battery life...then radio/GPS signals...no exceptions. If your phone is in a locked state then ad requests are disabled. This is how Android OS works.
5) If you're on your phone NOT using a data connection is the only time when this is applicable...and that's IF you do NOT have an ad blocker (which is the majority of phones). Even then...the data signal caused by the ad request is insignificant to the battery cost of the screen.
6) The article itself even mentions that the "energy required" is only comparing ad requests to the rest of the apps commands...it's not comparing this to the OS energy use or display or radio signals...etc. If you aren't familiar with how much battery use a single app uses then you should know that at best these ad requests are going to be less than 4% at a very generous estimation.
7) This Mario guy should probably read the article he's summarizing before he actually posts about it
Considering all of the following...you have to be a non-rooted, non-AdFree (or other ad blocking app) user that is using the phone without any other app using a data connection for this to even be applicable...I'd say that's going to be a very small majority of people. I don't see many people being rooted and having AdFree installed to counter this...but I would be very surprised if someone is on their phone without using a data signal for enough of their usage to even make this worth mentioning.
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ad requests are only a very small percentage of your battery use...This Mario guy didn't even read the article before posting his completely mis-leading title. The 70% estimation is comparing the energy of the ad request vs the application's battery use...which is very small. Additionally, your radio signals (the reason this figure is so high) are likely to be in use already and therefore not affected anyway.
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funeralthirst said:
i just wanted to point out this comment by jordo_99 to that article...
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I disagree. I'm noticing signficantly less drain on idle and during app usage. My Data Manager tells you there's always some data transfer occuring during idle. And anytime a 4G signal is pinged for anything the battery takes a nosedive. Any opportunity to prevent a needless data connection (on 4G) is a good one.

mettleh3d said:
I disagree. I'm noticing signficantly less drain on idle and during app usage. My Data Manager tells you there's always some data transfer occuring during idle. And anytime a 4G signal is pinged for anything the battery takes a nosedive. Any opportunity to prevent a needless data connection (on 4G) is a good one.
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but does it tell you where that data request is originating? more likely it's push for gmail or something like that than an ad in an app when the screen is locked...
during app usage, sure blocking the ads will reduce radio usage and thus power, but nothing noticeable... especially compared to the screen. on idle, that's all placebo.

If any radio is being used, it will use power. If you can stop unwanted radio use, your battery will last longer. Basically if you put your phone in airplane mode, and all your radios are off, your battery will last much longer. If alot of ad requests were made, like 50000 it would impact battery.
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funeralthirst said:
i just wanted to point out this comment by jordo_99 to that article...
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Can you summarise what jordo_99 has said? I dont really understand..

Jesus, this is like 1 year old news...

[BATTERY]Tips for better battery life

Here i would be presenting a thread in which i will be talking about how to get the most of your battery on our beautiful phones. It is a fact that at this moment of time battery is not that great on the HOX. But hopefully with the tips that i will present here, shall help people get the max out of their battery till we have some custom kernels drop our way. So without further or do i present a few things that you can do to get the most out of your battery.​​​​
Tips for better battery life​
1) Touch screen sounds and lock screen sounds untick them from Settings-Sound. That causes the audio_out1 wakelock and unfortunately it is here as well on the HOX and drains battery like hell. So untick those so you do not get that massive wakelock
2) If you are using stock rom and have not rooted yet you can use this option to disable bloatware. Go into settings-apps and go into all. There you can select the applications you want to disable. What that does it will not unistall them but freeze them like TB does for rooted phones. It will remove them from the background and from your app screen to. Pretty nice feature if you ask me. Mainly disable your carrier apps and the google ones as well like Play Books, Play Movies and Play Music if you do not use them. Just a small addition to be added thanks to (pnnorth)- If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
3) If you are using Titanium Backup(i always recommend to get the Pro version) you can uninstall those apps or freeze them if you like. For me i personally would uninstall them as they do not have any use for me.
4) If you are at home and you want to browse the net on your phone always make sure you use Wifi. It is a no brainer that wifi drains less battery than 3G. So always have your mobile data in settings as off and just use wifi. When you are out and about though make sure you have wifi off and use your mobile data on your phone instead. Because if you have wifi on as well it will try and scan for the available networks it can pick up and that causes drainage on your battery. Have that off when you go out.
5) Regarding brightness. Make sure you either have it on low settings or auto. It is a fact that if you have max brightness for your display that is a battery killer as well. Settings-display-brightness and just adjust from there.
6) Regarding task killer apps or battery saving apps like Juice Defender i recommend to stay away from those. Those apps consume more battery than they are suppose to be saving. Regarding task killers it is NOT recommended to kill apps because Android does that for you anyway. Just make sure you the application that you use, you always use the back button to exit the app or just go into multitask and swipe it away.
7) If you are rooted make sure you fully charge your phone and then in recovery or from Leedroid tweaks if you are using that make sure you wipe battery stats. That always helps as well.
8) Regarding sync your accounts. Now i have mine on autosync. From reading around having to sync your email account and facebook and twitter and whatever account you have syncing that drains battery. Now you can do two things. One either set the option to have those on manual sync or if you do not use facebook then uninstall it. But to be honest i have everything on autosync and still get good battery so it is down to user preference really. But for those interested go into settings-accounts and sync and adjust to your choosing.
9) Switch to gsm/2g only instead of wcdma/3g in settings >mobile network >Network Mode. Specially if you're not planning to use any 3g internet/mms features. (thanks to Gdelrosario)
10) Try to avoid ad supported apps. A research showed that in apps where there is adds, 70% of the power use comes from downloading and managing those adds to your screen. 30sec use of an app that uses adds, might drain your fully charged battery 0.35%-0.70%. Research link found here (thanks to Tont0)
11) Settings > Developer options > Windows animation scale > "Animation is OFF".
12) Mentioned this above but will re-post here again with a bit more detail. (thanks to AndroidGX) If you have multiple mail accounts, turn off auto-sync feature to refresh them manually. Settings > Accounts & sync > Auto-sync : [UNTICK]
Note: this will works also for any app like Facebook, Twitter, Beautiful Widget, etc..
13) Disabling the options for louder ringtone when inside a pocket and stopping the ringtone when picking up the device might also help. (thanks to Hardstuffmuc)
14) Settings > Wi-Fi > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep : "Only when plugged in". That way wifi will not be on all the time and that means saving bit of juice in the process
LINKS:​
*Link to the thread for BetterBatteryStats is below. Please install that app as it will help you to identify what app consumes your battery when you have screen off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
*Another great thread to have a look at is the Rom Cleaner by Patrics83. What it does it basically gives you this option : Will remove as much as possible without breaking HTC Sense Launcher and Widgets! This is the best way to come close to a no-sense ROM and still use HTC Sense!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589949
That is it for now. I will be updating this thread when i come across more battery saving tips. For now if anyone has anymore please post them and i will add them to the OP and give a thanks to you by adding your name next to the tip.

Was going to compile a list of apps that are safe to disable (for non-rooted users) and what to freeze uninstall (for rooted users). But since there is Rom Cleaner thread by Patrics83 as i have stated above you are probably best to go to his thread here where you can use his script and follow the guide on OP. This is script is for rooted users.
There also you can find a list of applications that is safe to disable for all those who are non rooted. Settings-apps and then go into all apps. As pointed out in first post tip 2 first if the application you are trying to disable has been updated first uninstall the updates and then disable the app
That is it for now more will follow

6) Regarding task killer apps or battery saving apps like Juice Defender i recommend to stay away from those. Those apps consume more battery than they are suppose to be saving. Regarding task killers it is NOT recommended to kill apps because Android does that for you anyway. Just make sure you the application that you use, you always use the back button to exit the app or just go into multitask and swipe it away.
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This is not a task killer. Also the apps are not aktive in backgraound, they are hibernatet. If you want to kill a task go to task manager.

lokiderelb said:
This is not a task killer. Also the apps are not aktive in backgraound, they are hibernatet. If you want to kill a task go to task manager.
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Juice Defender=Battery Saving App = Not so much of a battery saving app
And Maps, and even facebook are active in the background my friend. by disabling them you are kinda like freezing them anyway. And yes if you read above if you want to kill a task or terminate an app i did mention that you can do that through Task manager. Or even by going into multi tasking app and swiping the one that you do not use anymore exits the app my friend
Trust me i done my research before posting this thread. But i am also open to correcting something if i am wrong.

Just a small addition to point 2) - If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
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pnnorth said:
Just a small addition to point 2) - If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
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Done added that to the OP. Thanks mate..Hopefully this thread will come to some use to people.

Nice effort. I wouldn't take it as gospel tho'. But plenty to try and see what works for you.
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I already made another thread posting this one, but as I noticed there is one where to gather some common tips, I might as well add it here.
Try to avoid ad supported apps. A research showed that in apps where there is adds, 70% of the power use comes from downloading and managing those adds to your screen. 30sec use of an app that uses adds, might drain your fully charged battery 0.35%-0.70%.
Here is the link for the research http://www.androidauthority.com/ad-suported-android-apps-battery-drain-65716/

Very good thread. I tend to do most of what is mentioned anyway. As soon I got the phone I was busy tweaking the settings so that I could get the maximum power out of the battery. I'm not considered a heavy user anyway so it typically lasts 2-3 days.

you can also add to switch to gsm/2g only instead of wcdma/3g in settings >mobile network >Network Mode
specially if you're not planning to use any 3g internet/mms features

Cheers guys...Any tips that we can get i can add them all to the OP so that way we can have one thread which has everything. That way no need for clutter of threads regarding on how to improve battery life people can come here and read and discuss. Thank you guys i really appreciate your help

Added the new tips to the OP. Thanks

Qn: Are all battery saving apps not actually saving battery then? (E.g. Juice Defender)

NoobTerminator said:
7) If you are rooted make sure you fully charge your phone and then in recovery or from Leedroid tweaks if you are using that make sure you wipe battery stats. That always helps as well.
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wiping battery stats is done when reaching 100% charge and holds nothing but the useage of apps and does nothing to calibrate or improve battery life.
heres a quote to back this up.
Deleting this file will basically wipe your battery usage reports, which is done anyways automatically when the phone is fully charged (hence you'll see a clear list when you reach a full charge). "Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful".
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce

junialum said:
Qn: Are all battery saving apps not actually saving battery then? (E.g. Juice Defender)
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i will be honest with you. When i had my galaxy s2 and i had juice defender on that drained more battery than it was suppose to be saving. I could find you posts from users and kernel developers that i know from the s2 forums that advice against it. It is down to you to try and test but from my own testings i would advice against using them

NoobTerminator said:
i will be honest with you. When i had my galaxy s2 and i had juice defender on that drained more battery than it was suppose to be saving. I could find you posts from users and kernel developers that i know from the s2 forums that advice against it. It is down to you to try and test but from my own testings i would advice against using them
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Thanks for the reply. My question was more general. Do you mean that there are no good battery apps?

How can we tel which apps support ads? I keep getting notifications in my status bar from random sites how can I stop that.
Thank you
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treebill said:
wiping battery stats is done when reaching 100% charge and holds nothing but the useage of apps and does nothing to calibrate or improve battery life.
heres a quote to back this up.
Deleting this file will basically wipe your battery usage reports, which is done anyways automatically when the phone is fully charged (hence you'll see a clear list when you reach a full charge). "Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful".
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
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True. You do have a point. but also on the other hand there has been people that saying by wiping battery stats that deletes the battery history makes everything start fresh as you mentioned above. What i am trying to get maybe it works maybe it does not. But one thing i know from my own experience by deleting those battery stats did help a bit on my battery. Hence why i posted that in the OP.
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Thanks for the reply. My question was more general. Do you mean that there are no good battery apps?
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Like i said mate. In general i have not bothered with battery apps. For me they eat more battery than they are suppose to be saving. If you follow my guide and also search on xda to find more threads like mine most will say that battery apps really do nothing..But it is down to you at the end of the day.

Mzhaze3 said:
How can we tel which apps support ads? I keep getting notifications in my status bar from random sites how can I stop that.
Thank you
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That is easy to figure out. Most of the times it will be all the free apps in the market. If you are rooted install ADaway and that will install the hosts on your phone and will block those ads.

I'm not rooted lol
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[Q] Best Battery Saver

HI Xda members could you please tell me or provide me the links to download best battery saver for n7100 :good:

The settings you use.
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UtkarshGupta said:
The settings you use.
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Hi UtkarshGupta,
I am not sure what settings you are referring to but these are the some basic settings i use,
Its not a Rooted Phone ,
GPS off
Mobile DATA on when required
WIFI on when required,

Screen display. . Motion settings. Sync settings for different apps... signal strength. ...
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Best power saving method I found was a MUGEN 6400mAh extended battery, why get a phone like this then turn off all the good stuff.
If power is a REAL issue consider the MUGEN, dont go for one if the cheap backs, I brought one wast of money.
The standard battery should give you a day easy, have mine overclocked to 1.8ghz always gave me a good full day on standard battery.
If you really wants to save power the way do it is this.
1. Stop unnecessary widgets from running
2. Stop unecesary services
3. No live wallpaper
How -
Download Autostarts from the play store, this program allows you to do all if the above.
This usually saves more battery power than anything else. WHY HAVE TWENTY SERVICES RUNNING WHEN YOU ONLY NEED 1 WIDGET.
Be careful as this program is powerful and with power come responsibility.
RED OR BLUE YOU CHOOSE !!!

Angst said:
Best power saving method I found was a MUGEN 6400mAh extended battery, why get a phone like this then turn off all the good stuff.
If power is a REAL issue consider the MUGEN, dont go for one if the cheap backs, I brought one wast of money.
The standard battery should give you a day easy, have mine overclocked to 1.8ghz always gave me a good full day on standard battery.
If you really wants to save power the way do it is this.
1. Stop unnecessary widgets from running
2. Stop unecesary services
3. No live wallpaper
How -
Download Autostarts from the play store, this program allows you to do all if the above.
This usually saves more battery power than anything else. WHY HAVE TWENTY SERVICES RUNNING WHEN YOU ONLY NEED 1 WIDGET.
Be careful as this program is powerful and with power come responsibility.
RED OR BLUE YOU CHOOSE !!!
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Thank you so much for your valuable time to reply, I am not sure if Mugen is available in India but the Autostarts i see requires Root and as if now its just 2weeks old phone i dont want to root it it could Void warranty so let me check what are my secondary options.

UtkarshGupta said:
Screen display. . Motion settings. Sync settings for different apps... signal strength. ...
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Hi Utkarsh,
Screen Display is set to 60% Brightness , motion Settings is Off except Direct Call , Smart Alert , Sync is setup manually for all apps.
Regard's
Akram khan

Got Perseus , that did the work dont need a battery saver any more

Get rid of freakin GOOGLE PLAY SERVICES

Let me make this clear, this thread is not about getting rid of Google services but google play services....
Being a GNEX user we have cherished so many updates from 4.0.1 to 4.4.4, courtesy of some gr8 devs and teams. Every update gave us the courage to give a sarcastic look at some of the flagships still lagging behing, but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it.It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services".
TBH we all got scroogled however we are not ashamed of it coz if a service is good then there is no point in not using it, but the experience we get across different devices creates a different opinion about the entire service and thats what happened with play services..
Taking google play services out of ur phone gives u hell a lot of advantage but the right alternatives. I decided to take it out of my GNEX and now i am one of the Happiest men on the planet who uses open source apps wherever possible.
I am about to list the alternatives i used and the experience i got....
I am a LiquidSmooth or Vanir user combined with the dirtyness of DirtyV kernel, F2FS, ART, xlouder patch...
Market : Since i dont flash Gapps no Play Store but FDROID is gr8, clean and simple. For apps unavailable at FDROID i use APKLEECHER
Browser : Of course Firefox and Lightning browser both available in FDROID. I use firefox for some impt. stuffs like mobile banking, etc and lightning browser for daily browsing that includes social networks fb, g+.
Music Player : Ur choice but i am a huge lover of Noozy. :angel:
Video Player :VLC available at FDROID :highfive:
Office Apps : Office Mobile, Microsoft does a gr8 job there.
Email Client : AOSP or K-9 mail available at FDROID
Proxy : Obviously Orbot by Guardian Projects available at FDROID
IM Clients : It was easy for me since most of my friends dont use Hangouts but whatsapp...pls for the sweet love of god please try Telegram available at FDROID. It got encryption too and open source. I am working on migrating my friends to Telegram. Also i do use ChatSecure available at FDROID for my gtalk and facebook accounts chat... :fingers-crossed:
Now comes the most impt part,
Cloud,Contacts and Cal Syncs : This is the hardest part u can come across, i had my solution OWNCLOUD
i have a raspberry pi and i turned it to an OWNCLOUD server, easiest way is to Check out ARKOS if u have a rpi or beaglebone black. With that OWNCLOUD i can instantly upload photos, videos just like g+ and also using an app DAVDROID at FDROID u can sync ur calender and contacts to ur Mobile. :good:
Maps : I use OsmAnd which is an ON/Offline maps app where u can download data to ur phone. Its pretty decent for finding directions but dont expect the sophistications of GMAPS, btw i m happy with OSMAND but at some situations i do use maps.google.com at firefox. :victory:
Youtube : Viral Lite downloaded with apkleecher.com...much better than Youtube. :cyclops:
Search : DuckDuckGo available at FDROID. Google Now will be one huge feature u got to sacrifice
Any free apps can be downloaded from apkleecher.com.
Btw regarding the updates : FDROID apps can be updated easily but others, yeah i know thats pain in the ass but thats a sacrifice you got to make to get rid of play services.
After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro..
THE DRAWBACKS : In the recently concluded GOOGLE I/O, google nailed the fragmentation issue by announcing that from now on all security patches will reach via Google play services which enables to secure even 2.3 devices.
However those updates will definitely added to the AOSP branch which our beloved DEVS will make use of
please comment if u have any ques and try getting rid of play services and have fun......

Thanks for sharing this info. I'm going to follow your instructions. I'd like to see a "new system" by replacing all the pieces

pvkiniyan95 said:
....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
-Total SOT
-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
-brightness level/auto
-type of usage pattern #/%'s for texts/calls/gaming/browsing
Eg.
I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is

isajoo said:
pvkiniyan95 said:
....but deep down inside every power GNEX user knew that those updates aren't making the phone better simply bcoz its not designed for it. It all started with the arrival of brutal "Google Play Services"....
....After these things i got a fluid phone with extra 45mins of SOT on maguro....
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Can you please explain in detail how exactly "those updates" aren't better?
Also would like more detail on what "fluid phone" means?
If your getting an extra 45 mins SOT, then what are the other details?
-Total SOT
-Total time between charging 100%-4%
-background data updates
-push email on/off
-BT/Wi-Fi/NFC on/off
-brightness level/auto
-type of usage pattern #/%'s for texts/calls/gaming/browsing
Eg.
I'm running an 18 month old PA2.57 4.1.2 ROM, w/Zen kernel.
Nova homescreen weather/stock widgets auto update every 30 mins.
Auto app updates over data only, got unlimited plan so never use Wi-Fi.
Auto brightness on.
BT always on since it connects to car everyday streaming audio/calls for 30 mins.
Max. 2h SOT
Time between full charge 8-9h's.
Couple of texts/calls(max 10 daily)
25% gaming
75% browsing
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TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
May be I can answer a few ques
If u have experienced KitKat on gnex then u would probably know about "those updates" "fluidity"
I m running Liquid smooth 3.1 and
WiFi always on and ocassional 3g (10 mins),NFC off, BT when needed, Location when needed, Sync always on, little phone calls like 15 mins, brightness I'll adjust manually always, I don't play games at all but I browse hell a lot, music 30mins, time between charges 10h and sot 2hrs max,
After those things now time between full charges even last a day and sot is 3hr
Edgarngg said:
Thanks a lot for this man, so should we just delete phonesky apk from the zip and contacts and calendar sync and then just install fdroid and move on?
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After flashing a rom don't flash gapps, install fdroid and u r good to go.....BTW I m talking only about KitKat ROMs...
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isajoo said:
TBH if u r using 18 month old rom then probably u r in a wrong place.
Sorry...
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Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
Now could you try and answer my question, w/details?
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latenightchameleon said:
I haven't been using gapps for a long while (I actually removed everything associated with google, except maps), and my battery life has improved dramatically. For anyone (like me) who really misses the play store, there's a great alternative, which has most of the apps from there and has a built-in updater, so your google play apps will be detected and updated. Here it is
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There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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isajoo said:
pvkiniyan95 said:
Is that really all you took from my post?
I've tested every single ROM and the ONLY one that runs "fluid" like for me WITH Google services is the 18 month old ROM.
LOL
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Post edited, check it, hope I answered ur ques
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pvkiniyan95 said:
There are lot of 3rd party stores like appbrain, 1mibile market as u mentioned, I tried it recently it's gud but there are few security issues when u use them. As I mentioned security patches are about to be sent through GPS, without them I won't trust any 3rd party app store except FDROID....BTW we r free to choose and I got to admit that 1mobile is pretty but I felt the laginess after few days, during app installs phone lagged heavily just like in play store..
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Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
Anything is better than gapps

latenightchameleon said:
Well, unlike the play store I can at least greenify 1mobile to prevent drain:good:
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Yeah u could, If u are nightly flasher u r gud to go
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@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.

Hetalk said:
@pvkiniyan95 Buddy, I've been wanting to do this for so so long. Read a lot about it, but read that some games and apps need google services to work. I got a lot of games on my device, for my son. Did you encounter any app that wouldnt work?
Also, I've got a couple dedicated servers to my disposal. Can they be used to create my owncloud service?
I really am all geared up to do this.
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honestly i dont play games at all in my gnex besides afaik Games dont depend upon google play services completely, they are just optional to store scores on cloud, i think games might work. Regarding owncloud, yes u could if u have a domain to, head over to owncloud.org and they have a good guide over there....:fingers-crossed:

Thanks for this!

Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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Edgarngg said:
Telegram is really fast and has no delay since it doesn't depend on Google cloud server. But on 1mobile there's a newer version of it. I guess that one drains more battery that the old one at fdroid. I really love it I think I'll tell my friends to migrate. But which version of it is better. It's kind of conflicting having fdroid and 1mobile at the same time
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I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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pvkiniyan95 said:
I don't trust 1mobile, I'll suggest to go with fdroid one
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In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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Edgarngg said:
In terms of security overall? So updating one by one checking on apkleecher would be the only option? Because fdroid only detects some of the apps. My battery has improved though, so I think I might not go back to Google services maybe until I get a new phone with larger battery. And even then I'll give it a second thought
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I am mostly trying to move to open source apps, also u can use the apps without updating as long as we want coz they will be stable and work well...nowadays most of the apps notify u when there is an update, spend a few mins in the weekend to update them...technically I felt 1mobile is just another Google play service coz they all work with Google analytics ads etc etc etc....choice is urs
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I didn't know there were that many people who didn't like running gapps. I don't really have any issue using gapps and google play, but it's nice to know there are other options out there. Thanks for sharing this.

Is not that we don't like them. Is what they do to our battery what we don't like.
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I haven't been able to sync my contacts to owncloud. Can you point me to a good tutorial on how to do that. Also jabber account. It's all new to me
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Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ Battery Saving Tips

A phone even with killer looks and amazing features still needs a descent battery backup to support it all. In past we've seen that a few tricks here and there always tend to increase battery life. Usually that includes disabling a few apps or features. This thread is for specifically targeting such tips & tricks and sharing it all so that S6 Edge+ can live upto its expectations..

1. To start with, lets get to the list of bloatwares that can be safely disabled.
If any of you own the AT&T version, here's a list you can disable:-
AT&T Apps:-
AT&T FamilyMap
AT&T Hot Spots
AT&T Live
AT&T Locker
AT&T Mail
AT&T Mobile Locate
AT&T Mobile Transfer
AT&T Navigator
AT&T Ready2Go
AT&T Smart Wi-Fi
Drive Mode
Caller Name ID
Mobile TV
Plenti
Smart Limits
Yp (Yellow Pages)
Other Apps:-
S Voice
Amazon (I prefer the playstore version for frequent updates)
Amazon Kindle
Device Help
Live Weather (Yahoo)
Lookout
Theme Store
Visual Voicemail
2. Refrain from using any free application that has embedded advertisements. They tend to run threads in background to load adds and thus degrade the app performance and used data (so naturally consume more power too). Either buy add-free version or find an alternate app for same purpose and without adds.
3. Disable notifications from social media/news apps like Facebook, Twitter, Tapatalk, etc. Although, the phone wouldn't be that smart if all the notifications are disabled, however, keep them at bare minimum. Not everybody would be interested in notifications from all the apps, so spend some time analyzing through all the installed apps and their settings to turn off the notifications for the apps you do not need to get notifications for. There are several apps that keep sending notifications and running a thread in background which again checks internet to load the notification content. An example would be games like Candy Crush or Clash Of Clans.
4. Turn off "Send Usage Statistics" or "Help Improve the app performance", "Participate in improvement" etc settings from the app which sends data from your device from time to time which acts as a survey to improve the performance of the app. Although this is a necessary option for a developer, however, if you do not care about your granular contribution towards further development of the app, try deselecting such options while setting up new apps.
5. Refrain from using external Memory Management Apps and RAM Cleaners. They tend to run heavy background services to detect memory usage and kill applications. Trust me, you would be better without them.
6. Try using black wallpaper and lock screen. Also, always select Dark Mode if any app has theme section. This makes the pixels produce less brightness and considerably save more battery.
7. Keep GPS Location off when not using any navigational/location based apps. When the GPS is ON, there are some apps that tend to acquire a GPS Lock even though they can work without it. Keeping GPS Off will not allow such apps to request for GPS Lock. GPS Locking is a battery draining process.
8. You can use certain tools like Greenify, WiFi Automatic, etc. to automatically manage application states or phone wireless to save some additional battery. Use these only if you are lazy like me. Otherwise you can always manually turn on/off wifi/bluetooth/nfc etc etc. Also, there are tools (like Juice Defender) which can enable/disable data connective at a frequent interval which results in really good power conservation without loosing push notification.
With applying most of these settings, I'm getting 6-7 hrs of screen on time very easily even when I've downloaded 1+ GB data and 40 minutes of video chat (hangout). Not to mention the usual gaming and application usage.:cyclops:
I hope that helps. I'll keep adding if I get any (without root).

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apurva.giri said:
A phone even with killer looks and amazing features still needs a descent battery backup to support it all. In past we've seen that a few tricks here and there always tend to increase battery life. Usually that includes disabling a few apps or features. This thread is for specifically targeting such tips & tricks and sharing it all so that S6 Edge+ can live upto its expectations..
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Tweak brightness.

I believe rooting a phone can improve its battery life. This method works for almost all devices.

st8chic said:
I believe rooting a phone can improve its battery life. This method works for almost all devices.
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I'm sure you mean rooting and installing all sorts of battery saving items/tweaking.
Marely rooting wouldn't bring any difference to battery life for sure!

Just tweak brightness, make sure you getting good signal and use WiFi when available, don't leave Abby of the radio on unless not using it and that shall be good I guess
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How can you disable those apps. I'm on T Mobile but we have our share of T Mobile bloat. Would love to disable a bunch of them without customizing my files lol

edo101 said:
How can you disable those apps. I'm on T Mobile but we have our share of T Mobile bloat. Would love to disable a bunch of them without customizing my files lol
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Just long press the app in the app drawer and drag it up to where it says disable.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Just long press the app in the app drawer and drag it up to where it says disable.
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What is an app drawer lol?

edo101 said:
What is an app drawer lol?
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It's the icon on the lower right corner of the screen that says "Apps". Once you get in there find the app that you want to disable. Long press the icon of the app and drag it to the upper left corner of the screen where it says "Disable". Then when the "Disable" word lights up red just release the app into there.
Check out my screenshot for an example.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
It's the icon on the lower right corner of the screen that says "Apps". Once you get in there find the app that you want to disable. Long press the icon of the app and drag it to the upper left corner of the screen where it says "Disable". Then when the "Disable" word lights up red just release the app into there.
Check out my screenshot for an example.
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Got it!, and Thanked. I'm actually on a Note Edge on 5.0, just moved back down to 4.4.4, it doesn't show up as disable.

hiteshonline said:
Tweak brightness.
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Tweak brightness is its pmajor problem.......

Thanks for the listing. I love the new design than S6 edge, hopefully it will last longer as well...

Please tell me a solution if any one knows:
I open facebook and after some time i close this application by click on list tasks soft key and close it. Immediately when I go into setting > application manager > running apps I still see a facebook process running. Technically i guess this should be gone i guess and hence any idea how to clean these which i guess can improve battery life.
Update: If I have notifications turned on in facebook then yes it can still run some process even after I close it in Apps Tab but I see the same with Samsung Music Player i.e after I close it I still see a thread in "Running" Apps.

vravik said:
Please tell me a solution if any one knows:
I open facebook and after some time i close this application by click on list tasks soft key and close it. Immediately when I go into setting > application manager > running apps I still see a facebook process running. Technically i guess this should be gone i guess and hence any idea how to clean these which i guess can improve battery life.
Update: If I have notifications turned on in facebook then yes it can still run some process even after I close it in Apps Tab but I see the same with Samsung Music Player i.e after I close it I still see a thread in "Running" Apps.
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These kind of apps do tend to run a background process to check for updates. Closing the app doesn't necessarily mean that the processes will close. And I'm not even sure even if you turn off all the notification services of an app, all the related processes will close for sure, it depends. Also, if you are using apps like facebook etc, do not worry much about the battery life if you have turned off the background data usage and notification services. It will have very minimal impact, almost negligible!

on Tmobile version, Its not possible to disable Tmobile apps or smasung's own bloat. What a sigh!

taranfx said:
on Tmobile version, Its not possible to disable Tmobile apps or smasung's own bloat. What a sigh!
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Package disabler pro app disables everything you want!
No root needed

Dvanzutphenkann said:
Package disabler pro app disables everything you want!
No root needed
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Yes it does. Came across this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 does a good job on mine so far. It disabled around 30 app and i feel it did make a difference. I use the default XML attached

ShyamSasi said:
Yes it does. Came across this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563 does a good job on mine so far. It disabled around 30 app and i feel it did make a difference. I use the default XML attached
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Out of all those 30 apps you disabled did you lose any functionality?