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set sd card as primary storage?

I cant seem to find the option to set my memory card as the place where i want photos that i take stored automatically there I also couldnt find this option on samsungs only motorolas? Also im on stock

It automatically does that, no setting req. Did you try taking a photo n see where its stored?

Nope it saves it to the phone I don't see how they left out this glaring omission you think something so little as that

hjr954 said:
Nope it saves it to the phone I don't see how they left out this glaring omission you think something so little as that
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Gonna have to go with jainanshal here. In both stock GB and CM9, photos get saved to DCIM\Camera on the SD card automatically for me.

Do you think I just see it like that in my gallery because its in a different folder? So theoretically if your right when I take out my SD all my photos will be gone?

hjr954 said:
Do you think I just see it like that in my gallery because its in a different folder? So theoretically if your right when I take out my SD all my photos will be gone?
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Well you can try?

U were right i guess Motorola just did that for their own reasons

Why is most stuff being saved to internal memory and not SDcard?

Not sure since I'm fairly new to Android, but why does just about everything get saved to internal memory instead of my 32gb memory card? Is that normal? or a setting I can change somewhere?

What exactly are u saving from? Browser?
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imtjnotu said:
What exactly are u saving from? Browser?
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Yeah in general. What brings this up, I downloaded some music using music box, downloaded the avengers movie from mediahub, and several apps using the browser just to name a few items.
I popped out the card to pull off the music, but the memory card was almost empty.. just pictures are being saved there. EVERYTHING else seems to be going to internal memory. I have like 4gb free of 16gb.

Everything is defaulted to the imternal memory. You can set your camera to save to sdcard in the cameras setting. Also open your browser and go to settings, advanced, then set the default storage to memory card. There are somethings you can not change one of which is where the apps are installed. Any app you have that has to do with saving files to the phone open that app and press the menu key and see if you can change the default storage locations.
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Apps default to the internal memory, not all phones have SD card slots
Most apps should have an option to save on SD card, look through the settings

Yup, internal is default in ICS. But in jb it defaults to external if one is detected. Just fyi.
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still searching
I've been trying to find an app that tells JB on my SGH-T999 to default all "save to's" in all apps to the external SD-- I'm still looking, haven't found one yet. If anyone knows of one that does that, please post a link, thanks in advance. VERY frustrating that the system messaging app does not save attachments to my external SD by default-- it goes to the "SDcard0" (internal storage) with no way that I can find to change the setting to save to the external SD.

If you're rooted, look in the development section. On the first page... Maybe second. There's a mod that you're looking for.

How to use the microsd to store picture in sony ion?

Where is the setting to make all picture to store in the new microSD card, rather internal memory?
I cant find it in settings, anyone knows?
thanks.

MoreYummy said:
Where is the setting to make all picture to store in the new microSD card, rather internal memory?
I cant find it in settings, anyone knows?
thanks.
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In the camera settings, storage, change to sd
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Ok found that setting.
Will that move all my previuos picture in internal to SD card automatically?
Or only those picture taken after I made the changes will store in sd card only?

MoreYummy said:
Ok found that setting.
Will that move all my previuos picture in internal to SD card automatically?
Or only those picture taken after I made the changes will store in sd card only?
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those only taken after change is made..you have to manually transfer the rest

In this sony ion, pictures are are taken, but no time and date stamp like other phone.
How do you add them?
I dont see such thing in camera - Settings..

MoreYummy said:
In this sony ion, pictures are are taken, but no time and date stamp like other phone.
How do you add them?
I dont see such thing in camera - Settings..
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True, they are saved as DSC_xxx but you can see the date and time in the settings when you open a picture in the album. Dunno how to change it though
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i dont think those are featured in the camera app

Yea, i can see the details by going to the detail of the file, but other smartphone can actually print the date and time ONTO the picture, so when i print it out, they are visible in the paper.
This feature is missing from this phone, why would sony miss that.

MoreYummy said:
Yea, i can see the details by going to the detail of the file, but other smartphone can actually print the date and time ONTO the picture, so when i print it out, they are visible in the paper.
This feature is missing from this phone, why would sony miss that.
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Because nobody was using this. Phone isn't camera and it don't need date on photos.
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It is a camera phone, You must kidding. There are many phones with that feature, even older sony has it..
sony must missed this feature in the coding.

Moving app to sdcard: are they making fun of us?!

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but what's the point in being able to move apps....to the internal storage, not to the external sd Card?
Am I missing something here? I though I could really move apps to the external sd Card. If you install few games like Nfsmw, fifa14, asphalt 8 and rr3 you've already occupied 8gb of the 12gb available to the user into my new Note 10.1 2014 LTE 16gb!!!!!
I do hope I'm missing some hidden settings, otherwise what is it for the option "move to sd card" into the app settings?!
Thanks in advance

Aratheba said:
I don't know, maybe it's just me, but what's the point in being able to move apps....to the internal storage, not to the external sd Card?
Am I missing something here? I though I could really move apps to the external sd Card. If you install few games like Nfsmw, fifa14, asphalt 8 and rr3 you've already occupied 8gb of the 12gb available to the user into my new Note 10.1 2014 LTE 16gb!!!!!
I do hope I'm missing some hidden settings, otherwise what is it for the option "move to sd card" into the app settings?!
Thanks in advance
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That option moves it to the external sd card
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ChrisNee1988 said:
That option moves it to the external sd card
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How I'd love to say "hey you are right", but you are not.
Did you really try? Did you go looking for the stuff you moved into the external sd card (/storage/extSdCard/) instead of the internal storage (/storage/emulated/0/)?
I tried even on my galaxy note 3 to see if there's any difference and sadly there isn't. Same behaviour. Although on the note 3 is not such a problem cause I have 32gb for internal storage.
This is really a Shame! I don't want to be forced to root my device to solve such a issue.

Aratheba said:
How I'd love to say "hey you are right", but you are not.
Did you really try? Did you go looking for the stuff you moved into the external sd card (/storage/extSdCard/) instead of the internal storage (/storage/emulated/0/)?
I tried even on my galaxy note 3 to see if there's any difference and sadly there isn't. Same behaviour. Although on the note 3 is not such a problem cause I have 32gb for internal storage.
This is really a Shame! I don't want to be forced to root my device to solve such a issue.
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I notice a huge difference in available space for both storages and if you remove the sd card, those apps won't launch anymore. Pretty compelling to me that it works. I thought I saw the moved files in a hidden folder before but I can't find it now
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ChrisNee1988 said:
I notice a huge difference in available space for both storages and if you remove the sd card, those apps won't launch anymore. Pretty compelling to me that it works. I thought I saw the moved files in a hidden folder before but I can't find it now
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that's true, if you remove the sdcard you cannot start the applications you moved anymore. And this makes me even more angry about it.
There's no reason for such a behaviour as no files was moved to external sdcard in any visible nor hidden directory. In fact there's even no change in terms of available storage space after moving apps.
Try to perform a search into your external sd card and tell me if you can find Them! :/

Aratheba said:
that's true, if you remove the sdcard you cannot start the applications you moved anymore. And this makes me even more angry about it.
There's no reason for such a behaviour as no files was moved to external sdcard in any visible nor hidden directory. In fact there's even no change in terms of available storage space after moving apps.
Try to perform a search into your external sd card and tell me if you can find Them! :/
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Check root/mnt/asec. I think that's it
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ChrisNee1988 said:
Check root/mnt/asec. I think that's it
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That dir is not the external sd card! Moreover there are only the app files and not the data files which are the heaviest ones in term of reserved space.
Try installing a big game like Asphalt 8 which uses 1.56GB of storage. Then look at the available space into the internal storage and the external sdcard. Try then moving it to sdcard and then look whether you have 1.56GB available space more than before, while at the same time you have 1.56gb less into the external sdcard.

Aratheba said:
That dir is not the external sd card! Moreover there are only the app files and not the data files which are the heaviest ones in term of reserved space.
Try installing a big game like Asphalt 8 which uses 1.56GB of storage. Then look at the available space into the internal storage and the external sdcard. Try then moving it to sdcard and then look whether you have 1.56GB available space more than before, while at the same time you have 1.56gb less into the external sdcard.
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I think that path is linked to the extsd card, and data like asphalt 8 data isn't movable by samsung's method cause the data wasn't downloaded through the play store, it was downloaded by the app. So the only way to move that is with root and something like foldermount
Also heres a quick link i found with some information on the asec folder. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13043783/android-move-app-to-sd

ChrisNee1988 said:
I think that path is linked to the extsd card, and data like asphalt 8 data isn't movable by samsung's method cause the data wasn't downloaded through the play store, it was downloaded by the app. So the only way to move that is with root and something like foldermount
Also heres a quick link i found with some information on the asec folder. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13043783/android-move-app-to-sd
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Interesting link. Unlucky me my adb setup is messed up, then I cannot check the mount point for /mnt/asec.
Anyway, Asphalt8 is entirely downloaded form the playstore. Just give a look to its size into the PlayStore description. :/

Aratheba said:
Interesting link. Unlucky me my adb setup is messed up, then I cannot check the mount point for /mnt/asec.
Anyway, Asphalt8 is entirely downloaded form the playstore. Just give a look to its size into the PlayStore description. :/
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Good point. I think samsung's method of apps to sd only works on the application files, not the data files that go in the android/data or android/obb folders. Like i menioned before, there are other ways of moving those files

ChrisNee1988 said:
Good point. I think samsung's method of apps to sd only works on the application files, not the data files that go in the android/data or android/obb folders. Like i menioned before, there are other ways of moving those files
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Yep. If this is the case, this feature is pretty useless. :thumbdown:
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Aratheba said:
Yep. If this is the case, this feature is pretty useless. :thumbdown:
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It works well for the games i play like kingdom rush, plants vs zombies 2, dead trigger 2 and some others, it's saved me about 700mb. Actually now I remember how i saw those files before, if you pull the sd card out and put it in a computer, you'll see the asec folder there so i'm 100% sure its on the external sd card.

ChrisNee1988 said:
It works well for the games i play like kingdom rush, plants vs zombies 2, dead trigger 2 and some others, it's saved me about 700mb. Actually now I remember how i saw those files before, if you pull the sd card out and put it in a computer, you'll see the asec folder there so i'm 100% sure its on the external sd card.
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That's right. The /mnt/asec is the mount point for the .android_secure into the external sdcard. But games like pvz2 and dead trigger 2 keep only application files and lib there. No data files. Then you won't save more than 25mb each! :/
Still remains a pretty useless feature. What a pity!

Aratheba said:
That's right. The /mnt/asec is the mount point for the .android_secure into the external sdcard. But games like pvz2 and dead trigger 2 keep only application files and lib there. No data files. Then you won't save more than 25mb each! :/
Still remains a pretty useless feature. What a pity!
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my folder is about 700mb so thats a whole lot better than nothing lol

KitKat causing SD card problems - woah intentional?

This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
Leibeck explains what this means to users, writing,
“If your device has user-accessible internal flash storage, your SD Card is a “secondary external storage device”.
What this means is that with KitKat, applications will no longer be able create, modify, or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network. This ability, which has existed since the beginning of Android, has been taken away.”
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Mystery? said:
This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
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This is horrible.....shame on google

I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.

Google mess it up on purpose, to force people to use their cloud services and be bombarded by their advertising, that's how they make money and their official explanation to improve security is so lame. Anyhow, hopefully Samsung will fix it sooner or later, or you can root it and fix it yourself, loosing warranty in the process. I took the high road and will not update, until a) it's all fixed or b) my warranty runs out and won't care about Knox at all.
Google gets on my nerves lately, first they messed up new maps update (at least I got option to stay on old version for now) and now this.

rosedog said:
I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.
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So should I not up date the software.
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Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....

Pajar0913 said:
So should I not up date the software.
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I hear ya. 32gb is more than I need.. makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
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I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?

okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?

Exfex21 said:
okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?
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I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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Limeybastard said:
I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?
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Yes, you can still move some apps to the SD card.
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I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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I still can go to settings and change to save the pictures to the SD card. It's the app data, not pictures that you can't move to an SD card.

These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.

jax omen said:
These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.
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If you're rooted there is a fix. it's in the kitkat qa thread in the dev section. Seems to work fine.

itsmikeramsay said:
Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....
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Why not force apps to be defaulted to internal unless user unchecks that option for people using developers menu and/or root. Sort of like force gpu rendering option.