Hello, I'm a new Xperia ZL user and I came from a Samsung Galaxy SII phone, with which root, unroot, return to stock rom (in case we need warranty), install custom roms,etc... was so easy and with a lot of alternatives to follow. Is it more risky to do all those things in ZL? If I root, install CWM, and custom rom, will I be able to return the phone to a factory state (for warranty)? Does it leaves manipulation traces (in Samsung's case, binary counter) and can I cover them in case i need?
Thanks in advanced.!
In my opinion it's quite easy!
For many modifications you have to unlock the bootloader. If you got a device from a provider that often is impossible. Otherwise you can back up your TA-partition:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
If you need to send your device to sony, flash a stock rom and restore TA. I don't think they will see that you modified your phone.
There is a good overview-thread by DooMLorD which might be helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201148
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....one more thing: there are very few custom roms for ZL, many users are on stock, which is odexed. So many users won't be able to use mods.
Since I can't unlock bootloader I'm screwed, right?
opticon107 said:
Since I can't unlock bootloader I'm screwed, right?
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No, but you can only use custom roms based on stock. You can't use CM-based roms.
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I bought a new Xperia Arc yesterday and I have read up on some benefits of rooting. Since I'm new to this, I decided to root my Arc as well. It went well without any problems, but now I'm not seeing anything that really makes me feel the benefit of a rooted Xperia Arc. Can anyone give me reasons to keep it rooted or should I unroot it to save my warranty?
Warranty is only voided with unlocking the bootloader. Rooting the device won't have an effect on that. Therefore stay with root. You don't have any disadvantages, only advantages (even if they are not that big for you).
So my warranty isn't voided by rooting it with GingerBreak? Anything I should do to bring the most out of my rooted Arc then?
Not as far as I know. Sony Ericsson says that unlocking the bootloader MAY void your warranty and doesn't say anything about rooting the phone. If you root it with Gingerbreak you can unroot it again anyway.
Advantages of a rooted phone
Hi!
One thing I like best with an rooted device is, that you can install (and use!) a firewall on your phone.
With a firewall you can block the internet access of certain apps... ...no more electronic-spies.
How to unroot xperia arc?
Keep it! I'll tell you a couple of reasons why being root is awesome:
- If you unlock your bootloader and install a custom Kernel (DoomKernel is my favorite), you are able to overclock your CPU for faster performance, or underclock it for better battery life (SetCPU works well for me).
- You can install apps that require root access to work and can do very, very useful things. Titanium Backup, for example, lets you save the data from your apps so that it's not lost when you flash a new ROM.
- If you're like me, you'll like having the terminal on your phone, even if you don't use it that much. I've found it useful a couple of times. If you're root, you can download the Terminal emulator from the market and play around.
There are many benefits of being root depending on what you like to do with your phone. These are just the reasons why I like it
nigeltan92 said:
How to unroot xperia arc?
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Assuming you are on bb .42,you can lose root by just updating it firmware to .62,or better, flash a new one.
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soulskinner said:
Hi!
One thing I like best with an rooted device is, that you can install (and use!) a firewall on your phone.
With a firewall you can block the internet access of certain apps... ...no more electronic-spies.
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perhaps the most important feature for myself,and that is just one out of thousands of the benefit of rooting....
Ok. I would be glad if someone could point me in the right direction here, and answer this question.
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on? What´s the best thing to do if I want to remove the bloatware. I might as well say that I´m pretty much a beginner when it comes to all the terms "rooting" and stuff. But I want to do it a safe way, without taking risks of breaking or bricking anything.
Thanks.
Some of the bloatware can be simply uninstalled, some cannot. For the latter you need to root your phone. I like to use SuperOneClick for rooting. Note that some firmwares (the ones whose version ends with .62 or greater) cannot be rooted, so I wouldn't update to them.
Once rooted, removing the bloatware is pretty simple. The most common way is to use Titanium Backup to uninstall it or you can even do it manually by deleting the relevant .apk files from /system/app.
Root your phone ,this is the first step that you must to do. After rooting ,you can remove bloatware from your phone and gain more free space on you internal memory.
I think that the best rooting way is the (zergRush Method):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
After rooting ,download 'Root Explorer' ,go to system/app and remove all the things you don't need.
If you are getting an AT&T Xplay I would suggest installing the generic north American rom which is 2.3.4 and missing the AT&T bloat. I backed up the games from the stock rom first then installed the NA rom and reinstalled them.
First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
EDIT: Don't do the below, just read you don't want risk!
1. Unlock the bootloader
2. Use flashtool to install a generic ROM .FTF file (.368 has CRT animation but is old, .42 is good, .62 is good)
3. Install a kernel (DooM's is great). This will allow you to overclock, and give automatic ROOT (no need to exploit or install anything else)
4. Buy/acquire an app called "Titanium Backup" (it needs ROOT to run), and check the guide in these forums for which apps are safe to remove
The first thing to do? Here's a list:
1. READ everything you can find related to your model version of the Play. There are different versions depending on where you are in the world and who your service provider is. If you have a GSM capable phone (Europe, Canada, ATT in US just to name a few), you will have a lot more modification options available. If you have a CDMA capable phone (Verizon), you have fewer choices but there are more coming almost every day.
2. READ again - you know you only understood maybe a 10th of what you just read!
3. POST specific questions AFTER you have searched the forums. Don't be afraid to try Google - that's what it's there for.
4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
5. SLOW DOWN !!! - don't be in such a hurry to modify your phone that you leap before you look. Most bricked phones could be avoided in the first place by taking time to understand the steps involved before making changes.
6. DON'T PANIC !!! - There are very few things you can do to your phone that the experienced folks here on the forums can't help you resolved.
7. HAVE FUN !!!
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Potato13 said:
First use pc companion and install the latest update. Then root and remove bloat and get everything set up like your contacts and apps. After that install cwm and make a nandroid backup and start flashing roms! Back-up your info if the rom won't carry it over. Optional: Unlock bootloader before roms. There are plenty of stock based roms to for people with locked bootloaders.
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Not necessarily. If you install some of the latest updates, you no longer can root. That's why some research needs to be done first.
Search google and read xda forums on a daily basis. That's the shortest route lol
1. Root using zergrush or use flashtool rooting feature
2. Unlock bootloader (this will void your warranty)
3. Install clockworkmod 5.0.2.7 for xperia phones (get it free on play store fka android market)
4. Install titanium backup and perform batch backup of your apps to your sd card
5. Get doomlord's kernel v11 (link is on my signature) and wifi modules
6. Reboot into recovery and hold down or tap volume down to enter CWM recovery
7. Flash the kernel, then reboot and flash the wifi module
8. Flash your custom rom
9. There your phone is bricked! Haha
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4. THINK !!! - what is it that you expect to get from modifying your phone that it doesn't do now? If you just want to remove bloatware, you can simply root, install a custom recovery, make a backup and then go to town. No need for unlocking the bootloader or loading a custom rom.
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Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
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Thanks for the input.
The only thing that I plan to do, is probably just remove bloatware and nothing more. So I guess it´s just down to rooting the phone then, and delete the things that I don´t want? No need for unlocking bootloaders etc.?
Is there a list of what stuff that can be deleted? Or other things that can be achieved by only rooting the phone?
And the last question. Is it totally ok to accept android updates after the rooting and removing of bloatware?
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If you aren't going to get into custom kernels and overclocking, then no, you can do what you want without unlocking the bootloader.
There are some links in General and here in Q & A that make suggestions of what can be removed safely.
If you only rooted and didn't remove anything, you could accept updates. If you remove bloatware, the update won't even install. That's why I suggest installing CWM (ClockWorkMod) Recovery and doing a Nandroid Backup after you root but before you debloat.
Here are some useful links for you:
Rooted (Locked Bootloader) Phone - App Removal (Safe List)
[GUIDE] R800x owners - You got Custom ROM questions? I've got Answers!
The second one there was one I posted up for R800x users with locked bootloaders. It was all the stuff I had to glean for myself when mine was locked.
Hope this helps.
Sigh...hope this isn't too late.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23845116#post23845116
First thing: Root right away with Flashtool (http://androxyde.github.com/) and don't listen to the others, the Flashtool nowdays contains the Exploit that you need and it works perfect to root on 2.3.4 (I did it myself when I root'd mine the first time).
I am planning on buying an Xplay, mainly for phoning and gaming. I am very keen on keeping the Xplay "clean" and fast, and therefore wish to remove all bloatware from the beginning.
I recommend the Titanium Backup as all the others, and you can use this list as help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699&highlight=remove+app+list
Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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If you update to the .62 firmware you can't root.
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silmes said:
Q: Could someone point me in a direction to where to start when I first unpack my phone? Should I accept all the updates and so on?
A: Yes, do that first of all before you go ahead and root your device.
The interesting thing is that the answer to this seems to differ on who you ask. Further back in this thread, someone advised me NOT to update, as it might lead to problems when trying to root my phone. What´s the deal here?
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That's because it differs between models and some people aren't aware of that, while others like to be argumentative!
If you have a Verizon R800x Play, our firmware only goes up to Version 2.3.3 (3.0.1.E.0.88). If yours comes with 2.3.2, you're safe to update. You will be able to root with no problem.
If you have one of the other phones, you can apply updates below 4.0.2.A.0.62 and still root. .62 and higher, no root.
Check out this thread [HOW-TO] Root Phones w/ Android v2.2.x-2.3.x (zergRush Method) for additional information.
Hello my friends,
I'm a brand new Xperia ZL buyer, I came from a SGSII and I have a few questions, I hope I can receive some help:
With SGSII I rooted the phone, installed a bunch of custom ROMS, firmwares, etc... and when I needed to turned back to the "original" stock ROM and firmware, and even reset the binary counter to take the phone to warranty and hide all signs of not allowed usage. I just needed to flash the stock kernel via ODIN to the phone and reset the binary counter with an app, Triangle away, found in the Play Store.
For unlocking the network I used GalaxSIM, and in few steps/seconds, I could use my phone with any mobile company.
How can accomplish all these with the Xperia ZL?
Is it safe to root and unroot? If I need to take the phone to warranty what's the procedure to cover all the manipulation?
Is there a similar mechanism as the Galaxy's binary counter on the Xperia ZL?
I'm sorry for my english, and thanks in advanced for the help.
anyone?
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anyone?
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u can root using doomlord's method ..(Check orignal android dev) there is n unroot method though ..however if u repair via PCC/flash ftf via flashtool i guess root goes
u need to flash custom recovery to install custom roms .. Locked and unlocked available
there are a few tutorials ..search the thread :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214929
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2332407
press thanks if i helped you :good:
It's a lot easier on a Xperia device. As long as you don't unlock the bootloader nothing happens to your warranty. If you need to send it in for repair, you don't even need to unroot, I sent in two rooted devices (damages from dropping) and nobody cared, they just came back unrooted and fixed.
If you want to unroot, just install the sony pc companion software that comes with the phone, choose repair software and it will look like it's never been rooted.
Thank you man
How to get back my stock recovery ?
I've follow the complete thread on Locked bootloader on Z1C D5503 by this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634196&page=12.
Now ! I've successful rooting without unlocking the bootloader.
Completely done what I want, however I've one more question!
when I will back to warranty service, I need the stock recovery.
Therefore, how can i get back to stock without loosing my root access ??
Sorry for my English !
Sony doesn't have a stock recovery... Just flash back the stock kernel and relock your bootloader and now you're rooted stock.
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Sony doesn't have a stock recovery... Just flash back the stock kernel and relock your bootloader and now you're rooted stock.
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I know what you mean but if I will flash stock kernel, I will loose my system modification, that is I've installed a custom font to my system, I don't want to loose it. That is point bro. One more question, if i will flash stock ftf exclude system, the system modification still there and the locked dual recovery gone ?? If yes, I will. By the way, now I'm in locked bootloader and dual recovery.
Thanks bro.
saiarkar said:
I know what you mean but if I will flash stock kernel, I will loose my system modification, that is I've installed a custom font to my system, I don't want to loose it. That is point bro. One more question, if i will flash stock ftf exclude system, the system modification still there and the locked dual recovery gone ?? If yes, I will. By the way, now I'm in locked bootloader and dual recovery.
Thanks bro.
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If you only flash the kernel then nothing will happen to your system partition hence any modifications you made(and if your recovery is in system partition it will still be there after flash) will stay.
Riyal said:
If you only flash the kernel then nothing will happen to your system partition hence any modifications you made(
Thanks for your time bro ! Now I'm decided that when I want back to warranty service I'll flash the whole ftf file. That's answer
Thank you
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Maybe I'm on the wrong track here, but I don't get your point.
If I modified my phone beyond the stock possibilities as you did (rooted, custom font - in any case bootloader untouched) I would completely reset it to stock rom before handing it over to the repair center - because I don't want to discuss whether my modifications caused the defect or not. I guess that's a pretty common approach.
Now what is the point in rooting the phone, installing a custom font and then flashing stock, but only kind of half way without losing the modifications? Sony repair center will for sure be able to detect your modifications then, so you could save yourself from the stock flashing altogether and simply delete your private data before handing it in.
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Maybe I'm on the wrong track here, but I don't get your point.
If I modified my phone beyond the stock possibilities as you did (rooted, custom font - in any case bootloader untouched) I would completely reset it to stock rom before handing it over to the repair center - because I don't want to discuss whether my modifications caused the defect or not. I guess that's a pretty common approach.
Now what is the point in rooting the phone, installing a custom font and then flashing stock, but only kind of half way without losing the modifications? Sony repair center will for sure be able to detect your modifications then, so you could save yourself from the stock flashing altogether and simply delete your private data before handing it in.
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Yep, I know, however the point to rooting phone is the only one that is to install custom font system and modified some xml files. Do you know ?? Sony don't add my country language and font, therefore we need to root and install it without void the warranty. In my country, the sony service centers are only check the bootloader status and rooting status, if they are not seen anything in these part, they will give us the warranty. Therefore this is the point Sony Service never see in system modification they only check these two things. LOL
saiarkar said:
In my country, the sony service centers are only check the bootloader status and rooting status, if they are not seen anything in these part, they will give us the warranty. Therefore this is the point Sony Service never see in system modification they only check these two things. LOL
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Sounds strange, but if you say so...
I still wouldn't take a bet that they do not realize that the phone had been rooted previously to install the font and modified XMLs.
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Will it be good to root my Nexus 7 and what will be the precautions that should be taken after rooting it ,as I have heard about accidentally update can u make it clear for me.
And I also want to know that will I lose Android updates after rooting or custom ROM as Android update is the best part of Nexus.
I also want to know should I root my Nexus 7 (2013) or custom ROM it first.
Please give a brief sketch about custom ROM and rooting .which is safe ,easier,and how to root and custom ROM Nexus 7 and what are the precautions to be taken while doing this.
I would be very thankful for u...
Before you root I recommend you back up your data. Then unlock the bootloader. This will wipe all your data. Root has pros and cons. For starters, if you are on 5.0+ it's updates will fail to install. There are many to it techniques, but the easiest for me was to use the nexus root toolkit by wugfresh. Custom operating systems usually have more features, but usually more bugs as well. I own two nexus 7s. One is running 5.1.1 with the latest version of Xposed, the other has the custom ROM called VRToxin which is far more buggy but at the same time far more feature filled. If you install one, ALWAYS follow the instructions to a tee. Lastly, what I love most about root is the apps. Adaway removes ads from all apps. Titanium backup a lows me to backup all apps and there data. Root is usually safe, just be careful.
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Will it be good to root my Nexus 7 and what will be the precautions that should be taken after rooting it ,as I have heard about accidentally update can u make it clear for me.
And I also want to know that will I lose Android updates after rooting or custom ROM as Android update is the best part of Nexus.
I also want to know should I root my Nexus 7 (2013) or custom ROM it first.
Please give a brief sketch about custom ROM and rooting .which is safe ,easier,and how to root and custom ROM Nexus 7 and what are the precautions to be taken while doing this.
I would be very thankful for u...
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You should root if you want more features, want to customize more. But you should be ready to invest time and read through forum posts to learn more. You should not root if you are happy with what you have got and is not ready to take some risks. Of course it is not risky it you do your homework before doing anything and follow instructions clearly. Yes, you will lose OTA updates. But it doesn't matter. You can always flash the latest stock ROM if you want, which will be available right here in XDA.
If you want to root, first thing you should do is to unlock the bootloader. You can use any of the toolkits available to do that. Then only you can root. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data. (I don't remember if the internal storage is wiped, look it up) But after this first instance of data loss, then it's more easy. You can do backups and clean install, or dirty flash. You should install a custom bootloader (like TWRP). I use the multirom TWRP. Multirom is interesting which will allow you to install more than one ROM at once and dual boot easily. You can look up about it. You can then install any ROM you want.
Now sticking with the stock ROM or going for a custom one is your preference. Custom ROMs have many features baked right in. Some custom Roms (like cyanogenmod) even has OTA updates. Personally I like to use stockish ROM and use xposed to get the features I want. Xposed is another super tool which you should look at.
Now talking about precautions, always do a backup before doing anything. This is the no. 1 and the most important one. Personally, I have never done any backing up till now. But I am just careless and have been very lucky. Also, Google is getting better at doing app backups automatically. And most of my data is uploaded to the cloud anyway. As far as I know, it is impossible to hard brick Nexus 7. That means you can always rectify any problems that arise by giving your time. Unless you do something which damages the hardware.
Your friend is this forum. Read through posts and learn things. But be prepared to lose a lot of your time. You are warned!!
Hi I am convinced that I want to root my Nexus 7 2013 LTE & remain on stock MMB29V. I have tried using NRT to root however always ended in bootloop & have to reflash stock under softbrick condition. Please point me to a tutorial that works thanks
iluvatrix said:
Hi I am convinced that I want to root my Nexus 7 2013 LTE & remain on stock MMB29V. I have tried using NRT to root however always ended in bootloop & have to reflash stock under softbrick condition. Please point me to a tutorial that works thanks
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Read the FAQ linked in the OP of the NRT thread...
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Unlocking and rooting is easy. In order for obtaining root to be beneficial, you have to know how it works. Somewhere between trial-and-error and reading is where knowledge is gained, and knowledge trumps everything in the world of software modification. I never bothered asking any questions, but spent thousands of hours trying and reading for myself.
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You should root if you want more features, want to customize more. But you should be ready to invest time and read through forum posts to learn more. You should not root if you are happy with what you have got and is not ready to take some risks. Of course it is not risky it you do your homework before doing anything and follow instructions clearly. Yes, you will lose OTA updates. But it doesn't matter. You can always flash the latest stock ROM if you want, which will be available right here in XDA.
If you want to root, first thing you should do is to unlock the bootloader. You can use any of the toolkits available to do that. Then only you can root. Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data. (I don't remember if the internal storage is wiped, look it up) But after this first instance of data loss, then it's more easy. You can do backups and clean install, or dirty flash. You should install a custom bootloader (like TWRP). I use the multirom TWRP. Multirom is interesting which will allow you to install more than one ROM at once and dual boot easily. You can look up about it. You can then install any ROM you want.
Now sticking with the stock ROM or going for a custom one is your preference. Custom ROMs have many features baked right in. Some custom Roms (like cyanogenmod) even has OTA updates. Personally I like to use stockish ROM and use xposed to get the features I want. Xposed is another super tool which you should look at.
Now talking about precautions, always do a backup before doing anything. This is the no. 1 and the most important one. Personally, I have never done any backing up till now. But I am just careless and have been very lucky. Also, Google is getting better at doing app backups automatically. And most of my data is uploaded to the cloud anyway. As far as I know, it is impossible to hard brick Nexus 7. That means you can always rectify any problems that arise by giving your time. Unless you do something which damages the hardware.
Your friend is this forum. Read through posts and learn things. But be prepared to lose a lot of your time. You are warned!!
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Hey tank u alot for ur answer . It has helped me alot and made me clear but can u tell me more briefly about about coistom boot loader TWRP and multirom is kind of coustom ROM or what?? And which are the OTA updates receiving roms ??? After rooting if I hav a coustom ROM ,should I need to install OTA updates external??? And installing OTA updates externaly is wat called flash ???is it a too lenghty procss .
But bro tumbs up to your answer ....thank you alottt.....?????????