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I just ordered a Acasis USB Dual External Drive Enclosure w/USB Hub - Supports 5.25" Slim SATA Optical Drive & 2.5" SATA HDD up to 640GB; http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-ODD-SATA-PB&cat=DVD
I have another purpose for it to be used with my laptop, but I am wondering if this might work with the Galaxy SII ?? The hard drive might but don't know and the DVD part will need software, maybe VLC might have a try with it? This could all be moot... might not have a chance to work at all but I thought it might be interesting? What do you think.
This can be used as an external hard drive with an s2?
Depending on your rom/kernel combo you can get a USB otg cable/dongle and plug flash drives, external hard drives, mice and keyboards into your phone and use them just fine.
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Galaxy-Shadow said:
I just ordered a Acasis USB Dual External Drive Enclosure w/USB Hub - Supports 5.25" Slim SATA Optical Drive & 2.5" SATA HDD up to 640GB; http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-ODD-SATA-PB&cat=DVD
I have another purpose for it to be used with my laptop, but I am wondering if this might work with the Galaxy SII ?? The hard drive might but don't know and the DVD part will need software, maybe VLC might have a try with it? This could all be moot... might not have a chance to work at all but I thought it might be interesting? What do you think.
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Well to my surprise The Galaxy S2 will read the 160Gb hard drive and the CD portion of the optical Drive!, it is an LG CDR Sata Drive, it won't read my Sony DVD Sata drive, but at least I can burn CD-R's with my phone! that I was not expecting!, as I get more time I will experiment with other uses for this.:good:
What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
aznduk said:
What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Really nice to run across this! I have a 1TB WD Passport, OTG cable, an Anker external battery, and Nexus Media Importer and they work great with this setup. I had tried a powered USB hub and it worked but this is much better from my perspective - hadn't thought of trying the battery pack.
Interestingly, I also have 2 500GB WD Passports that worked without additional power on my 2012 N7 but they won't work without additional power on my 2013 N7.
Thanks for the post!
Dave
aznduk said:
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.
does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb
mtbvfr said:
Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.
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yes, im currently on cm10.2 m1(milestone) rom with stock kernal. playing videos straight off hd tends to reboot my device. Let me know if you get similar issues. i find copying the file into the sd storage is the most stable way. hopefully CyanogenMod will come up with an update that corrects this problem
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does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb
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It works with any hd drive that doesnt require an outlet plug
Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??
TehFonz said:
Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??
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No. It appears that a single external drive/memory device is the limit (at least on a stock unit).
I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?
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I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?
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No, I'm stock.
I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?
vinceboiii said:
I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?
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Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.
ahh right need that app too okay thanks. I will give this a try after I move and settle in.
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I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?
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I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?
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I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
sparksd said:
I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone
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I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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Thanks. That helps.
cobyman7035 said:
is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone
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Probably are - Amazon was convenient. As for speed, I don't have a way to measure transfer speeds but I do know it is fast and in no way impedes video file viewing direct from the HDD. Using on a laptop, I can see that it does give true USB 3.0 transfer speeds.
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Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.
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You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.
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You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.
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True - I was responding from the perspective of a stock device. I haven't seen the reboots - are you overclocking with Cm?
I have the Samsung galaxy tab s 10.5 and I would like to know if a 256g flash drive will work? I watch movies and TV shows on the go, 64g is not enough (the Simpsons season 1 - 25 needs about 100g) I don't have a computer anymore just my tablet. I bought the seagate wireless plus 1tb and I couldn't get it to work, don't want to order a 256g flash drive and have same trouble. Any help would be great
Sorry no I am not rooted and due to the fact that I use my Samsung allshare cast hub daily and root items can't use the hub
Anyone?
Don't you mean SD card.? Some people say the highest you can go is 64 or 128gb
128 GB is the highest you can go
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He probably means OTG cable with a hard drive. Simple drives tend to work the larger drives need more power to work via USB.
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There is an available of cable that's a "y".....one leg is the USB and the other is another female micro USB for your charging cable. Can't remember where on ebay I got mine but it does work for my external hard drives with my GS5
128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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128gb sd card is not big enough so I thought k would try a 256gb OTG flash drive. Has anyone tested?
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This question left me extremely curious, so I have just purchased an OTG cable which will arrive in a few days. I will test out a few different EXT HDD sizes and post what the maximum my OTG will allow.
I do however forsee an increase in the discharge of the battery for larger storage devices, but we shall see.
Can't wait to see what u find
I'm gonna buy a sandisk ultra 64gb microUSB otg and I was looking for a bigger one but this must be the biggest one they have, can't wait to test it out. What I'll do is if my shows or movies won't fit I'm gonna have to erase the ones I've seen then try to make them fit. I suggest you get a 128gb micro SD card plus a big sized flash drive then you should be okay.
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So I bought an OTG cable off ebay, and it arrived. I didn't change the format of any of my external drives as I don't have the space to store anything currently anywhere else. The tablet registers there is a drive connected however it can't mount the storage device due to an unknown format. The externals I tried were 2 portables (1x 500Gb usb2.0 and 1x 1Tb usb 3.0) and 2 desktops (1x 1.5Tb and 1x 1Tb both usb 2.0). Over the next few days I will attempt to reformat the 500 Gb and 1Tb portables, and the 1Tb desktop and see if that produces any results. Due to work constraints this may take a few days, so thank you for patience. Results will be posted as soon as possible. Current format of all the externals is default NTFS.
Another Option
There's another option in which would require multiple devices unfortunately due to the limited storage. Its a product I currently use myself called "Toshiba Duo 2 in 1.
http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...flash-drive-toduo64grd?searchTerm=Toshina Duo
Unfortunately I am still working on my other drives. There's is a lot of moving data around (limited to USB 2.0 speeds), so please keep posted on my other externals.
I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
IMHO without root you can not use any external media since USB mounting is not supported out-of-the-box.
Raymondo17 said:
I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
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I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which
is IMHO totaly fine.
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
Calibaan said:
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
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Your device must be rooted.
Ah, OK so nothing new. Thought I´ve missed something.
I'm using an older Western Digital My Passport 320gb and mounted my internal data to it. I connected it to a small powered hub and also have a wireless mouse/keyboard dongle and wireless game controller connected to the hub. It works wonderfully. Only a slight delay compared to having data still on the FTV itself.
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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Exactly. I first tried a flash drive I had laying around. It turned my FTV into a slow crawl.
derpeter said:
I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which is IMHO totaly fine.
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Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
Raymondo17 said:
Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
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Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
derpeter said:
Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
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Excellent. Thanks for the info.
I used my old 128gb ssd samsung evo 840 as whole System. fast like normal System. No slowdown. i use an active usb 4 Port hub also connected Xbox 360 Wireless Transmitter usb dongle for Wireless mouse+Keyboard. One Thinge i can't use a Second harddrive as external.
dowsn't Sebamed to work as i use datatousb from cwm Post. Maybe only usererror. bussymount killed my Setup (Boot from usb)
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Hi
As there are only 2 usb on shield, did anyone tried usb hub for it? Does any work?
Kajman said:
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As there are only 2 usb on shield, did anyone tried usb hub for it? Does any work?
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Ive got a generic 2.0 hub 4 ports working........pretty sure others work
Although you might wanna google search "shield tv usb 3.0 shielding" or something to that affect, i cant remember the exact details, but i read there may be some issues with 3.0 hubs because the shielding around the 3.0 ports on our shields, was not the best, or non existant, cant remember............issues about "interference"..............like i said, i dont know the exact details..........was waiting to look it up when i decided to finally think about buying a 3.0 hub...........and as im writting this, i think that may be now
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As there are only 2 usb on shield, did anyone tried usb hub for it? Does any work?
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I'm using an Anker USB 3.0 one perfectly fine with it. Haven't tried benchmarking speeds or anything but works fine with my xbox 360 wireless receiver, wired logitech gamepad controllers as well as a regular Logitech K400 receiver (but range does feel a bit weak, not sure if it's due to interference or lower power, but I feel like it's more interference as I had some issues without the hub). I usually use the other native usb port on the shield for charging the remote/controller. Might try a powered usb 3.0 hub later if I find I need to. But this one works just fine powered from the shield.
you didn't try to connect there f.e. 2 hdd and usb sticks?
I'm interested in the Shields behavior concerning multiple HDD's on a USB hub. I read in the past that the Shield TV did not support more than 2 ext HDD's through USB simultaneously. This is said to be a firmware limitation and rooting can solve that. I'm not rooting so curious as to whether that limitation has since been officially removed.
I'm looking to try out a Sabrent 4 port USB 3 hub. It's not powered. So how many HDD's can an unpowered HUB such as this one support?
If the hub won't serve my purpose then I''ll just use a couple of USB3 extension cables since my main need is easy access to USB device swapping. Getting to the back of the Shield is kind of a pain.
I use an unpowered usb 3 hub and it works fine. I have it hooked up to the cable used to charge the remote and controller, a wireless keyboard and a 128gb ssd in an external usb 3 enclosure. I am rooted so cant comment on the 2 hdd limitation.
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mad212 said:
I use an unpowered usb 3 hub and it works fine. I have it hooked up to the cable used to charge the remote and controller, a wireless keyboard and a 128gb ssd in an external usb 3 enclosure. I am rooted so cant comment on the 2 hdd limitation.
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Thx for the feedback. Nvidia will be adding a feature that may allow use of multiple ext HDD on the USB ports. Have to wait and see.
Yup
copticwalad said:
I'm using an Anker USB 3.0 one perfectly fine with it. Haven't tried benchmarking speeds or anything but works fine with my xbox 360 wireless receiver, wired logitech gamepad controllers as well as a regular Logitech K400 receiver (but range does feel a bit weak, not sure if it's due to interference or lower power, but I feel like it's more interference as I had some issues without the hub). I usually use the other native usb port on the shield for charging the remote/controller. Might try a powered usb 3.0 hub later if I find I need to. But this one works just fine powered from the shield.
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It's nice and at available rate. I am also prefer Anker USB 3.0 one.
Kajman said:
you didn't try to connect there f.e. 2 hdd and usb sticks?
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See my answer after next quote.
OrlyD said:
I'm interested in the Shields behavior concerning multiple HDD's on a USB hub. I read in the past that the Shield TV did not support more than 2 ext HDD's through USB simultaneously. This is said to be a firmware limitation and rooting can solve that. I'm not rooting so curious as to whether that limitation has since been officially removed.
I'm looking to try out a Sabrent 4 port USB 3 hub. It's not powered. So how many HDD's can an unpowered HUB such as this one support?
If the hub won't serve my purpose then I''ll just use a couple of USB3 extension cables since my main need is easy access to USB device swapping. Getting to the back of the Shield is kind of a pain.
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I finally got around to grabbing all my usb sticks and hdd's and a few devices and trying it out. I found that there is some sort of firmware limitation that allows only 2 usb storage (FDD + HDD) devices to show up. I'm not rooted yet and am still on stock ROM but may look to change that after we get marshmallow this month. Keep in mind though you can power an xbox 360 for windows wireless receiver, a logitech unifying receiver, even logitech wired gamepads along with 2 Storage drives (HDD or FDD) on a single usb port. I did try a 5400RPM usb 3.0 in NTFS drive along with a few flash drives in exFAT, NTFS, and FAT32 formats. The way I'm noticing it's behavior is you can have say 5 drives connected overall, say a 7200rpm on other main usb port, and then 5400rpm + 3 flash drives on unpowered usb hub but the Key is, the system will ONLY show you the last two plugged in. If one is removed, it should show another one (if not then you'll need to disconnect/connect) and they are all powered interestingly, even when not shown up.
Summary from my tests so far:
-Connect as many USB devices (controllers, keyboard mouse receivers, xbox 360 receivers, HDDs, FDDs) as you want through usb hubs, if you have more than two 2.5" drives I'd recommend a powered usb hub.
-All devices so far have lit up and power on as long as there's enough power
-The obvious Limitation so far, is software limits access to 2 most recently connected Storage USB Devices, this is despite being fully lit up and hard drives spinning. You can unmount them easily though in Android Settings -> Storage & Apps -> Unmount.
*This is reflected in both ES File Explorer and Android Settings
I'm going to talk about how I usually approach watching my media... so feel free to read
*I recommend to everyone to try and find alternatives to ease your lives. I'm a crazy tech enthusiast and even though I have soo many hard drives and flash drives from over the years, I've learned to simplify things and accommodate accordingly. For example PLEX is an amazing solution for watching videos over the network on this nvidia shield, and even though I do plan to eventually use Gigabit, wireless AC over 5Ghz is ridiculous on this thing and has no lag. In fact, even though I could connect my 6TB external hard drive to the unit directly, I still prefer the plex interface and ability to watch on my phone or tablet instead of my tv based on a number of factors. The other thing you could do if you don't like plex is simply use Windows network interface and Share 1 specific folder to your network that you can easily access on ES File Explorer. You can make it a little easier by assigning a specific computer in your house to 1 Local address, so the ip address never changes. For example: 192.168.1.2 could be assigned to your favorite computer, so then in ES File explorer you can save that SHARED folder as a favorite after scanning your network and then access it easily and wirelessly and not worry about flash drives etc..... Lastly don't forget about the awesome Casting abilities of the Nvidia Shield, so you can just cast your screen on your smartphone/tablet and if you have family photos on say Google Photos (released 6/2015 and highly recommended for everyone), you can cast them all on the big screen. Don't be like how I used to be and have literally over 10 drives and flash drives, each hard drive being like 500gb or 1TB and a bunch of scattered media on flash drives. Instead simplify your life and put all your media on 1 huge hard drive (ideally with RAID 1 security backup built in or offsite backup) and keep maybe one On The Go speedy flash drive, like Sandisk Extreme USB 3.0, for media you put temporarily to watch on a trip or something. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help, but that's a summary for novices.
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See my answer after next quote.
I finally got around to grabbing all my usb sticks and hdd's and a few devices and trying it out. I found that there is some sort of firmware limitation that allows only 2 usb storage (FDD + HDD) devices to show up. I'm not rooted yet and am still on stock ROM but may look to change that after we get marshmallow this month. Keep in mind though you can power an xbox 360 for windows wireless receiver, a logitech unifying receiver, even logitech wired gamepads along with 2 Storage drives (HDD or FDD) on a single usb port. I did try a 5400RPM usb 3.0 in NTFS drive along with a few flash drives in exFAT, NTFS, and FAT32 formats. The way I'm noticing it's behavior is you can have say 5 drives connected overall, say a 7200rpm on other main usb port, and then 5400rpm + 3 flash drives on unpowered usb hub but the Key is, the system will ONLY show you the last two plugged in. If one is removed, it should show another one (if not then you'll need to disconnect/connect) and they are all powered interestingly, even when not shown up.
Summary from my tests so far:
-Connect as many USB devices (controllers, keyboard mouse receivers, xbox 360 receivers, HDDs, FDDs) as you want through usb hubs, if you have more than two 2.5" drives I'd recommend a powered usb hub.
-All devices so far have lit up and power on as long as there's enough power
-The obvious Limitation so far, is software limits access to 2 most recently connected Storage USB Devices, this is despite being fully lit up and hard drives spinning. You can unmount them easily though in Android Settings -> Storage & Apps -> Unmount.
*This is reflected in both ES File Explorer and Android Settings
I'm going to talk about how I usually approach watching my media... so feel free to read
*I recommend to everyone to try and find alternatives to ease your lives. I'm a crazy tech enthusiast and even though I have soo many hard drives and flash drives from over the years, I've learned to simplify things and accommodate accordingly. For example PLEX is an amazing solution for watching videos over the network on this nvidia shield, and even though I do plan to eventually use Gigabit, wireless AC over 5Ghz is ridiculous on this thing and has no lag. In fact, even though I could connect my 6TB external hard drive to the unit directly, I still prefer the plex interface and ability to watch on my phone or tablet instead of my tv based on a number of factors. The other thing you could do if you don't like plex is simply use Windows network interface and Share 1 specific folder to your network that you can easily access on ES File Explorer. You can make it a little easier by assigning a specific computer in your house to 1 Local address, so the ip address never changes. For example: 192.168.1.2 could be assigned to your favorite computer, so then in ES File explorer you can save that SHARED folder as a favorite after scanning your network and then access it easily and wirelessly and not worry about flash drives etc..... Lastly don't forget about the awesome Casting abilities of the Nvidia Shield, so you can just cast your screen on your smartphone/tablet and if you have family photos on say Google Photos (released 6/2015 and highly recommended for everyone), you can cast them all on the big screen. Don't be like how I used to be and have literally over 10 drives and flash drives, each hard drive being like 500gb or 1TB and a bunch of scattered media on flash drives. Instead simplify your life and put all your media on 1 huge hard drive (ideally with RAID 1 security backup built in or offsite backup) and keep maybe one On The Go speedy flash drive, like Sandisk Extreme USB 3.0, for media you put temporarily to watch on a trip or something. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help, but that's a summary for novices.
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A bit of an old bump/OT but do you stream 4k over wifi or is it just 1080p? Because my ShieldTV is hating 4k streaming on my 5ghz ac wifi and im not sure what's up.
I am streaming 4k on wifi without problems with only 60-80mbit wifi repeater capabilities (real download speed).
test878 said:
A bit of an old bump/OT but do you stream 4k over wifi or is it just 1080p? Because my ShieldTV is hating 4k streaming on my 5ghz ac wifi and im not sure what's up.
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My bad for not seeing this until now, and actually perhaps it's a good thing I just saw this because I finally got to try out a true 4K movie over plex and compared it to locally on Nvidia Shield vs USB on 4K TV (Samsung SUHD). I'm gonna talk a little bit about HDR and 4k limitations so far and maybe adoptable storage experience.
Quick Background:
-Nvidia Shield 16gb with latest official 3.0 MM Update, not rooted. Adoptable Storage using 128gb Samsung Pro Plus MicroSDXC (90MB/s read and write).
-Samsung UN65JS8500 4K TV with HDR abilities and HDMI 2.0a
-Networking still currently over 5Ghz wireless ac to Netgear Nighthawk router and also to my Plex Server (with 300Mbps average wireless connection).
-Media samples of true 4K 10-bit encoded in the brilliant x265 HEVC @ 5.2Mbps (comparative to 10Mbps x264) , a 4K HDR sample from Life of Pi
~TV plays 4K 10-bit and HDR perfectly locally on USB 3.0 flash drive, I'll have issues getting subtitles to work with mkv on occasion because of Samsung's media player.
~Nvidia Shield plays 4K and 10-bit perfectly locally on VLC Player and MX Player from both adoptable storage and usb 3.0 drives, keep in mind that adoptable storage cannot be used or even seen on any computer (unless you plan on formatting it) because of its encryption, despite not having PIN or passcodes on SATV.
- HOWEVER, HDR would not work at all as I don't think the update included HDMI 2.0a (which HDR requires). Luckily Nvidia says it can be upgradeable in future with firmware.
As for streaming 4K over wifi, it works perfectly from Youtube but my big test today was for over the network from a pc with a 'native' 2160p movie rather than upscaled and I found the limitation to be the transcoding on my core i7 laptop. I got a warning at the start from Plex denoting that and afterwards it would slowly work but constantly buffer.
-I'm planning on implementing Gigabit wires to shield and tv and possibly back to my laptop but 4K transcoding is very demanding. Unfortunately on the Plex app on Android tv it doesn't give you the option to try direct play but I feel like that option might work to stream without transcoding. I'm going to try it again but from the tv (which has half the wireless speeds but at least the option to direct play from plex).
Really depends what source you're streaming 4K from. I also have 65Mbps internet connection with no issues and even delays when streaming from Youtube or Amazon Prime (on tv not Shield unfortunately).
Since this thread is supposed to be about the USB Hub I'll mention that today I noticed while using adoptable storage and inserting a USB Card reader with another microsdxc in it that the system didn't recognize it until restarting the unit. USB 3.0 drive though would show up instantly and luckily VLC player reads it very nicely and easily.
copticwalad said:
My bad for not seeing this until now, and actually perhaps it's a good thing I just saw this because I finally got to try out a true 4K movie over plex and compared it to locally on Nvidia Shield vs USB on 4K TV (Samsung SUHD). I'm gonna talk a little bit about HDR and 4k limitations so far and maybe adoptable storage experience.
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You're a testing champ boss! I hope you take one for the team and don't ever get a girlfriend or married. :fingers-crossed:
I have a crap load of scenarios to work out when I get home this weekend on my Pro...after I first enjoy a candle-light dinner with my wife and pass a couple of glasses of wine through her and to bed.
PS are you also using something like the SiliconDust HomerRunHD TV tuner for Live Channels or with Plex DVR?
@copticwalad
Is your adoptable storage insert via a USB hub?
Meaning
Shield TV > USB hub > adoptable storage.
My drive is formatted by STV already
I was thinking of adding a USB hub in-between it and the device.
Would it work?
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You're a testing champ boss! I hope you take one for the team and don't ever get a girlfriend or married. :fingers-crossed:
I have a crap load of scenarios to work out when I get home this weekend on my Pro...after I first enjoy a candle-light dinner with my wife and pass a couple of glasses of wine through her and to bed.
PS are you also using something like the SiliconDust HomerRunHD TV tuner for Live Channels or with Plex DVR?
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Not yet but I'm planning on it in a few months whenever I get around to wiring cat6 and coax through my house. Hard to justify cost of strong antenna+homerun when all our family watches on OTA is the news and sometimes major sports like superbowl and nba finals etc.. That might change if rumored products of Antenna Directly to Shield USB Live Channels+DVR comes at good price.
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@copticwalad
Is your adoptable storage insert via a USB hub?
Meaning
Shield TV > USB hub > adoptable storage.
My drive is formatted by STV already
I was thinking of adding a USB hub in-between it and the device.
Would it work?
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I actually don't use my usb hub anymore, it was good to know it works but my adoptable storage is actually a 128GB Samsung Pro Plus microSDXC MB-MD128DA/AM with 95 Read/90 Write. It's been amazing for over 14 months and I can access it and the Internal Storage of the Shield even when it's in standby from my laptop as a Network drive, not needing to worry about speeds or power. We lucked out cause the 2017 Nvidia Shield 16gb versions don't have microsd card readers (500GB does).
To answer your question: If your drive is either a flash drive or usb powered 2.5" drive the hub should easily power it as long as you're not powering too many with usbpower alone. If it's a bigger 3.5" external hard drive then it will have power + usb and should work as well.
I have a question myself for anyone here. Has anyone used a 3.5" External Hard Drive with the Shield using Power+ USB 3.0 without usb hub. 24/7 with no issues with power or did you have to manually turn it on and off. In other words, does it go to standby power with the Shield while still powered externally? And also are you using it for local playback only or with plex server? I'm debating adding a wd red drive to the Shield for plex local playback instead of going with the costly route of a real NAS without the transcoding power and expandable storage.
Also in case anyone ever has an issue with a flash drive not being seen by the Nvidia Shield, remove ES File Explorer. It very awkwardly prevent my Shield (running Nougat) from seeing or opening a flash drive even in Nvidia's settings. I uninstalled it and it works perfectly now through MX Player. I prefer Solid Explorer as File Manager, even on Android tv, worth the cost.
So I bought a thermaltake external HDD dock for about $40. It's USB 3.0 and I'm running my Plex Server out of it. It's 6TB drive. It's self powered and does not sleep. I was hoping that the Shield would recognize both drives at the same time but that didn't not work. I'm not routed and don't know if after I root it will recognize both drives at the same time.
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So I bought a thermaltake external HDD dock for about $40. It's USB 3.0 and I'm running my Plex Server out of it. It's 6TB drive. It's self powered and does not sleep. I was hoping that the Shield would recognize both drives at the same time but that didn't not work. I'm not routed and don't know if after I root it will recognize both drives at the same time.
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copticwalad said:
I have a question myself for anyone here. Has anyone used a 3.5" External Hard Drive with the Shield using Power+ USB 3.0 without usb hub. 24/7 with no issues with power or did you have to manually turn it on and off. In other words, does it go to standby power with the Shield while still powered externally? And also are you using it for local playback only or with plex server? I'm debating adding a wd red drive to the Shield for plex local playback instead of going with the costly route of a real NAS without the transcoding power and expandable storage.
Also in case anyone ever has an issue with a flash drive not being seen by the Nvidia Shield, remove ES File Explorer. It very awkwardly prevent my Shield (running Nougat) from seeing or opening a flash drive even in Nvidia's settings. I uninstalled it and it works perfectly now through MX Player. I prefer Solid Explorer as File Manager, even on Android tv, worth the cost.
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I'm glad I can give back a little to the community.
I hooked up a 6 terabyte external Western Digital hard drive which is powered on its own through an external power adapter. Next I hooked up another 2 terabyte external Seagate hard drive similarly powered externally. Since I am not as rich as I would like to be, they are both traditional 7200 RPM drives instead of SSD. They are both USB 3.0 and plugged into the internal USB ports of my Nvidia Shield Pro 2017.
My Nvidia Shield has no problem detecting both the drives and I use x-plore (https://goo.gl/UKuRRT) file manager to do operations between them.
Do larger Drive contains all my media for access my Plex and once again I have no problems accessing this media through Plex and playing it back locally or across the network in the house.
Recently I moved to 6 TB external drive into a USB 3.0 hub because I have to connect other devices to my Nvidia Shield Pro. This drive also contains all my Plex Media. I can confidently say that both these combinations of configurations for both the USB 3.0 drives work simultaneously and I'm able to move file to cross the drive and also use Plex against media stored on both of them.
got a 7 port usb hub and 7 Hard Drives Connected (8TB, 5TB, 3TB, 2TB, 750GB, 2 500GBs on one 2 Bay Enclosure) to the Shield using it and no issues on the local network or the Shield all files are accessible and blazing fast ) I recommend the
TP-Link UH720 for best performance.
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I have a Shield TV 16GB 2017, rooted, and have a 4 port usb (non-powered) hub connected to the first usb port (next to hdmi port). On this hub I have a flash drive as adopted storage and a 8TB hdd as external storage.
My problem or annoyance is the hdd can't be seen when accessing from PC sometimes even when shield is awake although I can see adopted flash and browse it. I usually have to reboot to see it.
friend.evil you have 7 hdd's on a usb hub are they accessible all the time even when shield is asleep?
Do I need to move my hub to the 2nd usb port and put the adopted in the 1st port.
Thanks. Any help is appreciated.
Nvidia Shield w/ a USB 3.0 Hub and 6 USB Drives ?
Last post above was someone that had 7 drives working... will this work in 2019 as it prolly has a new OS ? My last box (chromePC) with kodi 15.X worked using 5 drives... I tried a Zidoo box and only 4 USB drives work so im thinking of getting the Nvidia box as Ive got 5 FULL 8TB drives and need to add a 6th ! but wanna make sure before I get a shield as its costly... thanks in advance