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galaxy 10.1 usb adapter.

So I got my new galaxy 10.1 usb adapter. I was eager to try it and plugged in some usb drives, and multi memory card reader. I was hoping that memory card reader will see some of my sd cards. This could be awesome since I can carry movies/music/data/etc.
After trying some devices, I’m really, really, really, really disappointed. I'm hoping that I got a defective product and others had better luck.
I have tried 6 different usb drives. The size ranges from 512m to 12g. Out of 6 drives, only 4 of them were able to read . It failed to read/mount the 12g usb drive. I was very disappointed by this. My computer was able to read all of them. Some of the brands included lexar, data traveler, no game brand, Kingston, and pny. The no name brand works really well.
Since usb drive test was somewhat disappointing, I tried the memory card reader. I plugged the usb cable to usb adapter, and plugged in the memory card reader. It FAILED to read all my sd cards. I only tried 4, but they all failed. The brands included scandisk, pny, transcend, and Kingston. By the way, the memory card reader works on my computer, and it reads all the sd cards.
Finally, I tried couple of usb game controller, one no name brand, and other ps3. It seems to recognize that it’s an usb device, but that’s as far as I got. I thought maybe I need some software from the market to make those work, however, I did not find anything. I tried some emulators, and few games, but it did not work. I did read that galaxy tab supports gaming controller. Well, there goes that theory.
Maybe I’m not doing things correctly, or this usb adapter does not support everything that I wanted. (usb drive , memory card reader , and game controller . I didn’t even try keyboard or mouse. At this point, I don’t even care)
I welcome being schooled, if someone can help me make this work.
Is anyone else having issues? Or is it just me? If you have the usb adapter, please chime in. I’m curious, what works and what doesn’t.

received mine as well. I have tried keyboard and a wireless mouse adapter which worked wonderfully.
I also tried a third party xbox 360 controller to no avail. A quick google search said that android 3.1 may face limitations based on manufacturers, but not the software itself.

Here's what I have confirmed will work stock so far:
FAT32-formatted drives (Tested so far - Corsair 16GB thumb drive, 16GB Transcend Class 6 SDHC in a Rosewill SD card reader)
In the case of the latter I could see files but didn't try opening any - I know my tab doesn't support Pentax PEF format. Also, I put the SDHC into the reader before putting the reader into the tab, and put the reader into the USB dongle before putting the USB dongle into the tab.
Here's what I know will NOT work stock, but in theory should be usable with some work/tricks:
NTFS drives (requires a module from pershoot's optional "lib" archive of his kernels, and I think some manual mount magic)
PS3 controllers (requires a module from pershoot's optional "lib" archive, I have not tested this yet)
Xbox360 controllers (same deal as PS3 controllers)

I totally forgot to check the format. It didn't even occure to me. I got to reformat every drive, and try it again.
Have you guys try any type of memeory card readers?

I received mine today and I am also disappointed. One of the main things I wanted to do with it was to transfer files from my phone to the tablet. When I plug it in, it is recognized by the tablet, but it fails to connect. Does anyone know if this is something that is possible? It reads an old 1GB USB drive just fine.

I tried using the adapter with a bunch of devices (NTFS external hard drive, FAT32 16GB thumb drive, and the Xbox 360 Wireless Gaming Receiver [the thing that lets me connect a wireless controller to a PC]) and so far only the FAT32 16GB thumb drive works. Now, I understand I need the "lib" archive, but would that optional "lib" archive also allow the wireless gaming receiver to work?

jeff.hillman said:
I received mine today and I am also disappointed. One of the main things I wanted to do with it was to transfer files from my phone to the tablet. When I plug it in, it is recognized by the tablet, but it fails to connect. Does anyone know if this is something that is possible? It reads an old 1GB USB drive just fine.
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I was hoping for this as well. I'll just have to sick with Bluetooth as the method for transferring files to and from my phone & tablet.
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Well for the memory cards fat32 should work fine.controllers definitely don't work. I called them and rhett said they don't know anything about the controllers.no issues yet. Please call them up to make it an issue. 3.1 allows controllers. Samsung doesn't allow. The only way I can see using game controllers right now is to root. Really really sucks. Very mad.
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From the "for what its worth" department...
I tried a Lexar 1GB SD card formatted as FAT, plugged into a DigitalMatrix SD USB Card reader.
No joy.
I reformatted as FAT32 and tried again. No joy, but I got an error, "USB device is not working properly" or some such notice.
I then powered down (all the way) the tablet and restarted it with the SD Card/USB card reader/Samsung adapter all plugged in to the Tab.
It started up and recognized the USB adapter and storage.

Just realized something. It only takes externally powered devices. Controllers won't work. No controllers I know of plug into the wall. Controllers gave their own supply but to get them to sync to devices they use the device power. No controller for the galaxy tab unless they issue a usb adap that supplies power. Heard rumors they might be in the works. But I may just return mine and get the sony s1 or the s2
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Shadee1394 said:
Well for the memory cards fat32 should work fine.controllers definitely don't work. I called them and rhett said they don't know anything about the controllers.no issues yet. Please call them up to make it an issue. 3.1 allows controllers. Samsung doesn't allow. The only way I can see using game controllers right now is to root. Really really sucks. Very mad.
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Samsung allows controllers - I just tested a Nyko USB gamepad and it worked fine.
HC3.1 supports standard USB HID controllers. The Xbox 360 and PS3 pads are NOT in this category - these are nonstandard devices that were never meant to be used with anything other than their host systems, which is why any host running any OS needs special nonstandard drivers or software to interface with them. Samsung is under no obligation to support game controllers that were never designed to hook up to anything other than their respective systems to begin with.
Edit: The Tab 10.1 does not have any requirement for the device to be externally powered. However, the Tab is not capable of supplying the full 500 mA that some devices (such as spinning hard drives) require. If the tab required ALL devices to be externally powered, thumb drives wouldn't work. Controllers are usually low-current devices (exception: ones with vibration might exceed the current limits when they vibe) - the Tab will give you a specific error telling you that a device drew too much current I believe.
Edit 2: PS3 controllers will try to recharge their battery if connected to a USB host. This will cause an overcurrent error if the battery is not already charged. As mentioned above, since PS3 controllers are not a standard HID device they require a special kernel module to be loaded, hid-sony from pershoot's lib archive if you're running one of his kernels.

Well, I'm glad that I wasn't the only one with issues. I did reformat the usb drives, and 5 out of 6 works. One still doesn't want to play nice.
My memory card reader is still no go. I will have to try with powered usb hub, but I can't seem to find mine. I'll have wait until Monday when I get to work.
It was nice thought that I could use the game pads that I already own, (xbox 360/ps3). Hopefully someone can figure a way to make it work.

I just found couple of my old usb game pads and they do work.
Also, I tried my old ps2 controller with radio shack usb adapter, and surprisingly it works. I was very amused. Too bad wire is all over the place.
Also, one of the down fall of usb adapter is that I can’t use my case as stand.
I have Belkin,Verve Folio Case, and I can’t fold them over with the adapter. Or charge the galaxy tab with the case closed. oh well.

Oh. Ok. So I will try to fully charge my controller. Plus I will just try my old six axis ps3 controller since no dual shock. I dont have any pc conteollers. But thanks for the help.
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@poorl
Put your tab in your case upside down. Use the camera opening for the cable wire. Thats what I do. Doeant close right but it works
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Entropy512 said:
Samsung allows controllers - I just tested a Nyko USB gamepad and it worked fine.
HC3.1 supports standard USB HID controllers. The Xbox 360 and PS3 pads are NOT in this category - these are nonstandard devices that were never meant to be used with anything other than their host systems, which is why any host running any OS needs special nonstandard drivers or software to interface with them. Samsung is under no obligation to support game controllers that were never designed to hook up to anything other than their respective systems to begin with.
Edit: The Tab 10.1 does not have any requirement for the device to be externally powered. However, the Tab is not capable of supplying the full 500 mA that some devices (such as spinning hard drives) require. If the tab required ALL devices to be externally powered, thumb drives wouldn't work. Controllers are usually low-current devices (exception: ones with vibration might exceed the current limits when they vibe) - the Tab will give you a specific error telling you that a device drew too much current I believe.
Edit 2: PS3 controllers will try to recharge their battery if connected to a USB host. This will cause an overcurrent error if the battery is not already charged. As mentioned above, since PS3 controllers are not a standard HID device they require a special kernel module to be loaded, hid-sony from pershoot's lib archive if you're running one of his kernels.
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Thanks for the info. I looked up some info and it said<a href="http://www.ps3.jim.sh/sixaxis/usb/> this</a>. But I tried charging and it seems to me that I need a third party controller or a pc controller. I have a stock device. Haven't had a reason to root. I still the message high powered device. It seems that I am the only one to ever get that message cause samsung said they don't know what it means either. Has anyone gotten that message and was able to actually read it. But it seems I will have to root in order to get it to work. I bought mine with an unlocked bootloader.(aren't I lucky) I can't find anythreads to root my tab.our at least none that consistently work. Most are for locked bootloaders.

Patriot Rage XT 32gb works perfectly. I have 2 USB gamepads for PC. Logitech not working at all, although i see usb connected. An old Microsoft gamepad with USB adapter works better. I tried to play Mario 64. Dpad and sensor work but none of the buttons seem to work. When in settings I try to remap the buttons. It clicks but the emulator does not catch (memorize) them. BTW I use a Satechi R1 Stand. It is very well done. Now I need a working game controller.

peare said:
Patriot Rage XT 32gb works perfectly. I have 2 USB gamepads for PC. Logitech not working at all, although i see usb connected. An old Microsoft gamepad with USB adapter works better. I tried to play Mario 64. Dpad and sensor work but none of the buttons seem to work. When in settings I try to remap the buttons. It clicks but the emulator does not catch (memorize) them. BTW I use a Satechi R1 Stand. It is very well done. Now I need a working game controller.
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Which N64 emulator? Yongzh's N64oid? Yongzh's emulators seem to have issues with catching a lot of buttons as "<unknown>" which don't work in the emulator.
My Nyko works great with SNES9x EX, but not with SNESoid.

Fat 32 thumb drive, Sd card reader both work.
Ntfs drive, xbox controllers official and mad catz wired failed to work.
Using touch wiz rom.

Out of curiosity, if you got your SD card from Samsung where did they ship from?
I noticed my tracking info said that my package accepted/picked up at 7:24 pm on July 16, 2011 in NORTH HOUSTON, TX 77315. It's not scheduled to arrive at my home until July 21st.
I ask this because if I am reading this correctly it is taking my SD adapter 5 days, 3 if I go business days to reach me at my home which also happens to be in North Houston. I literally could walk there, pick it up, and walk back home before mine will arrive in the mail.
Sorry to ramble on, just seems like with whatever Samsung device I buy I always seem to be waiting on something to make it work.

300 GB Hard Drive

Hey guys I bought a usb otg cable and everything connects fine, except this 300gb hard drive I have, I've tested with several different 300gb+ drives and none of them connect, could it be because they are NTFS?
I'm on stock, not rooted

I think that may be the problem. Android likes FAT. I know that for older phones there have been threads on XDA with mods for allowing android to mount NTFS volumes (called NTFS mounter), probably just a matter of time until that functionality is brought to the S3.

Thanks, I guess I'll wait

You need a mod or app of some sort to handle NTFS drives. There are some in the Play Store that people have reported will do this...
However, there might be another problem. When I connect my 1TB WD Passport with USB OTG, it beeps and the HD light flashes...I believe it's indicating that the phone does not supply enough power via USB to run the hard drive. I can tell the drive is not spinning.
I'm not sure if this is the case for all portable drives...and I imagine it's not an issue with a larger externally powered drive.

Cables to use phone as desktop?

Hi folks,
As I understand it, the Glide supports both HDMI out and USB On the Go. What I'd like to do is set up my phone to be a basic laptop.
The first part of my plan is to get the right cables. Does anyone know of a combo cable that provides both HDMI female and USB A female to the phone so I can hook one end up to a powered hub with an ethernet dongle and keyboard/mouse thing, and at the same time hook up an external display? Also, if I do this, I assume the hub will need to provide power in some way back to the phone. Is that correct?
Or is this going to be so expensive I should just use a cheap computer?
Thanks.
Jonathan

fighttheangrybunny said:
As I understand it, the Glide supports both HDMI out and USB On the Go. What I'd like to do is set up my phone to be a basic laptop.
The first part of my plan is to get the right cables. Does anyone know of a combo cable that provides both HDMI female and USB A female to the phone so I can hook one end up to a powered hub with an ethernet dongle and keyboard/mouse thing, and at the same time hook up an external display? Also, if I do this, I assume the hub will need to provide power in some way back to the phone. Is that correct?
Or is this going to be so expensive I should just use a cheap computer?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633902&highlight=hdmi ?
Assuming a computer on site, you could always vnc.
From past experience with other PDA's, you will -quickly- grow tired of this and end up purchasing a laptop anyways.
Not that you'd want to be internet'ting, much, on a TV, either. For anything short of a quick search, weather, TV guide, you're going to want to cross the room to your laptop, IMO.
Which is probably what you'd have your HDMI connected up to, anyways. Although using the Glide as a remote in that situation is probably attractive. Or as an XBMC control sort of thing, but, again, likely the content would come off the computer rather than the glide, the glide just remotely controlling it.
You can easily test how you find this, either by using a bluetooth keyboard and playing (never mind the external screen for the moment), or by vnc'ing to it from a computer (pretend it's a bluetooth keyboard and it's an external monitor, for the moment).
Technically possible, not practically feasible.
Chromebook?

Just get cheap laptop. It will serve you better and will be much easier to use
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HDMI out is supported by the SoC, but to the best of our knowledge those pins aren't actually connected to anything in our phones. That said, there's a protocol for outputting to an HDMI device via a USB dongle that doesn't require any hardware infrastructure beyond USB OtG, which we have.
In theory, you could get a powered USB hub (it MUST be powered, no way in hell the phone can put out enough current to support all this), plug a keyboard and mouse into it along with one of those USB-to-HDMI dongles, then hook the phone up to it as a host using an OtG cable. At that point it's just a matter of ROM/kernel support of all the peripheral hardware. (Ask dman? Nah, I'm sure he's WAY too busy.)

If you are just using it for media as like an htpc, I'd reccomend skipping all the usbotg stuff and just connecting a net book or some other cheap PC to your display.
My current setup: old netbook with 1tb external hooked into TV, controlled by the glide (unified remote app) and the external drive is also network shared so my glide (and tablet) can read from it.
Its served me well for playing all of my local video files as well as flash video and light browsing. Depends what you're using it for though, I suppose.
The only time I've ever really used HDMI out with android is to play n64 emulators (or other games that support a bt controller) or if my girlfriend is watching desperate housewives or something on the main setup. It works well enough for that, but not enough that I would make a habit of it.

[Q] Recommended External Storage?

I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

IMHO without root you can not use any external media since USB mounting is not supported out-of-the-box.

Raymondo17 said:
I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
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I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which
is IMHO totaly fine.

How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.

Calibaan said:
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
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Your device must be rooted.

Ah, OK so nothing new. Thought I´ve missed something.

I'm using an older Western Digital My Passport 320gb and mounted my internal data to it. I connected it to a small powered hub and also have a wireless mouse/keyboard dongle and wireless game controller connected to the hub. It works wonderfully. Only a slight delay compared to having data still on the FTV itself.

Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.

KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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Exactly. I first tried a flash drive I had laying around. It turned my FTV into a slow crawl.

derpeter said:
I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which is IMHO totaly fine.
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Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?

Raymondo17 said:
Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
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Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.

derpeter said:
Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
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Excellent. Thanks for the info.

I used my old 128gb ssd samsung evo 840 as whole System. fast like normal System. No slowdown. i use an active usb 4 Port hub also connected Xbox 360 Wireless Transmitter usb dongle for Wireless mouse+Keyboard. One Thinge i can't use a Second harddrive as external.
dowsn't Sebamed to work as i use datatousb from cwm Post. Maybe only usererror. bussymount killed my Setup (Boot from usb)
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[Q]Recommended Powered USB Hub for powering the Pi's as well?

I recently got my hands on a Pi0 after already having a Pi1 and soon a Pi2 as well. Now I was wondering if anyone has experience with powered usb hubs to power the Pi's as well? I want to minimize the use of power sockets since they are pretty full all ready. I am looking for something with at least 7 ports (3 for the pi, 1 for the Pi0 for host, 1 wifi-dongle, 1 usb to ethernet, 1 mouse/keyboard).
Does anyone have some recommendations? And knows that it can do the job?

You can find a list of hubs that are verified to work with the raspberry pi if you search "RPi Powered USB Hubs" in google, it includes ones that back power (what you want) as well as ones that do not (what you do not want). I personally do not like to back power my raspberry pi's but I hope this helps!
edit: this is the wrong part of the forums for questions by the way you should ask in the "Raspberry Pi Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting" section of the forums.

Monoprice hub
I've had great success with a monoprice usb hub.
http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/pro...categoryid=10307&subcategoryid=1030702&cpncd=
If the link dosent work the product ID is 5328 (just search for that)
I've used it with both raspberry pi b and raspberry pi 2 (not at the same time)
If your using it near a always on psu you can hook it up to the PSU via a Pata connector.
FYI this is a proper hub and wont back power the device connected to it.
Another option
I did this with a corsair rm1000 and a pi b plus some bitcoin miners.
Just buy a Pata to sata adapter and cut the sata off.
Buy a usb micro cable and lob off the usb-a end
Strip, solder and seal the calls in the proper order (its been a few years sence i wired the PSU supply Method because I got out of moning)

I actually power numerous pi4 2, 4, and 8gb models with a powered Insignia (best buy's company brand) powered usb 3 hub just attatch a usb 3 (for extra thruput) from the pis to the hub. it will show a lightning bolt symbol on the screen when using the pi under load but thats because its 0.1 amps short which isnt that big of a deal unless youre running a crap ton of peripherals

i actually picked up quite a few of them for powering pi's in different places without any form of power brick or computer stuck in places like behind the tv, in the corners of the room (4 corner surround sound, 2 pis, a splitter running a cable to each sound bar screwed into each of the 2 walls in each corne mounted on each side of the room), throughout the house for spotify connect, and one in the front room with a 5% touch display as a viewing panel for my door's security camera. Next project im going to hook up a 50,000mAh solar battery, get a pi zero w, install a light sensor into the gpio, and write a script that pings my android devices (nvidia sheild, watch, phone, raspberry pi running android, and laptop running android) as well as my PC, so when the mail box opens up it senses light and sends a ping to my devices

this hub is actually powering a 2gb im using as a pi hole, a 4gb im using to run servers (check out servers ultimate on android), and another 4gb im using for retro gaming and media at the moment but when classes start back up ill reflash my backup with ubuntu and an arm port of vs code called OSS-CODE i use as a coding workstation in class. it truly is a desktop replacement now

oh holy crap i just realized this thread is years old

I shouldn't worry about it.
I still read it