[Q] Doubs about Partition SD Card and ext2,3,4 - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
Im going to buy a new microsd card, an adata class 10, and im currently have an kingston class 4. I've been reading in the forum about getting partitions, but im still have some doubs...
1.- If i made a ext 2,3,4 partition and move many of my apps with link2sd or a2sd or any other app/script... will i see any real difference in performance against the default metod in andriod 2.3.7 of moving apps to the sd (fat32) in .asec? Or i should stay with that?
2.- Can i make the ext partition through the phone? I mean insert the sd card and plug the usb to the computer while im on the cwm and then using some tool on the pc like magic partition
3.- Can i do more than 2 fat or ntfs partitions: one for the android data, photos, caches, etc; and the othe for music and more... just for avoid the fragmentation
Thanks

17th_angel said:
Hi
Im going to buy a new microsd card, an adata class 10, and im currently have an kingston class 4. I've been reading in the forum about getting partitions, but im still have some doubs...
1.- If i made a ext 2,3,4 partition and move many of my apps with link2sd or a2sd or any other app/script... will i see any real difference in performance against the default metod in andriod 2.3.7 of moving apps to the sd (fat32) in .asec? Or i should stay with that?
2.- Can i make the ext partition through the phone? I mean insert the sd card and plug the usb to the computer while im on the cwm and then using some tool on the pc like magic partition
3.- Can i do more than 2 fat or ntfs partitions: one for the android data, photos, caches, etc; and the othe for music and more... just for avoid the fragmentation
Thanks
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1 on my experience, linking apps with link2sd to the 2nd partition gave me better performance than leaving them in the asec of the sdcard. I guess, cause the 2nd partition is mounted at boot, and has way fewer files than the storage partition. Also, you can use those apps while the phone is plugged with massive usb storage mode (apps installed to asec get disabled in that situation).
2 DON'T. EVER. DO. THAT.
Seriously, use a card reader, or you can mess up the sd pretty bad.
3 You can, but the phone won't read them, unless you can develop a kernel to mount more than one fat storage partition.

1. I don't see difference in performance.
2. I made my ext from recovery.
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Thanks to both of you
I dont have a sd reader, but i think i can ask someone to borrow me a laptop.
One last question:
Is there any advantage/diference in using fat32 or ntfs?

17th_angel said:
Hi
Im going to buy a new microsd card, an adata class 10, and im currently have an kingston class 4. I've been reading in the forum about getting partitions, but im still have some doubs...
1.- If i made a ext 2,3,4 partition and move many of my apps with link2sd or a2sd or any other app/script... will i see any real difference in performance against the default metod in andriod 2.3.7 of moving apps to the sd (fat32) in .asec? Or i should stay with that?
2.- Can i make the ext partition through the phone? I mean insert the sd card and plug the usb to the computer while im on the cwm and then using some tool on the pc like magic partition
3.- Can i do more than 2 fat or ntfs partitions: one for the android data, photos, caches, etc; and the othe for music and more... just for avoid the fragmentation
Thanks
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1. YES , with this work your main memory phone will be light and performance will be better and better ( i suggest test it )
2. NO, you should use card reader and i suggest using MiniTool partition wizard
3. YES , BUT your phone doest read all of them, just one of them! but you can use custom kernel to mount them but its NOT recomanded
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17th_angel said:
Thanks to both of you
I dont have a sd reader, but i think i can ask someone to borrow me a laptop.
One last question:
Is there any advantage/diference in using fat32 or ntfs?
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in the phone(if you dont use files bigger than 5GB(1file>5GB)) , NO
if you have files more than 5GB you should use NTFS
if your files are less than 5GB you shoud use FAT32
in pc NTFS is more better than Fat32...

Hi again
Ive recently bought it (an adata class 10 micro sd) but, i dont obtain the minimun write speed that it claims...
I got around 5 MB/s though the phone usb and Above 25MB/s reading. I had a cache read ahead of 1024.
The thing is that i got a litlle more in writing when i use an sd reader (7-8 MB/s) but much lower reads (10-12 MB/s)
So i dont know what is happening, if its fake or if i fomatted it wrong (mini tool partition wizard) ...
Can i have any information if its real by the oem id and all the serial info sd tools gives? I can upload it if helps.
Thanks

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[Q] Ext3 on 16gb SD Card

Hello.
I have bought a new SD Card (kingston 16gb Class4).
I had a lot of problems with ext3 make. By Gparted it have errors.
I have readed this topic.
Can I repair my SD Card?
Sry for my english.
How are you connecting the card? Via a card reader or still in the phone? If it's still in the phone make sure you are in recovery and not booted in to android.
I made it by card reader. Formatting and partitioning by recovery - errors.
Have you tried erasing all the partitions and creating them again? What happens if you click the 'Repair' button?
I've always done my partitioning with my card in the phone, connected to my PC while in recovery and used Minitool Partition Wizard for Windows (this software was suggested in a thread I read a while ago) and never had any problems.
There is also the possibility of the card having a hardware problem, so you might need to swap it under warranty.
yes, first i have erased all partitions (deleted)
On repair ext - error, fat32 works fine.
first make an extended partition for your fat32 and inside that a primary fat32.
The unallocated space make it ext3
snowboard said:
first make an extended partition for your fat32 and inside that a primary fat32.
The unallocated space make it ext3
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shouldn't both partitions be primary (no extended ones)?
erase everything 1st keep it unformatted then create fat32 primary then ext primary (optional linuxs swap) this is what i have done when installed miui rom data2ext
i suggest you dont use that card reader try through the cell....
I have tried a lot of methods - ext still no works.
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Where did you get the card from?
Stupid question but two of my friends bought cheap (fake) cards from eBay and both had problems with them, either the card kept losing data or they go errors loading from the card due to the poor quality. In which case you need to spend a little more and get a proper card from amazon on a high street retailer.
If not then as suggested use try formatting and partitioning the card through the recovery on your phone, most of the up-to-date recoveries can do this and it's the easiest way to get the card ass needed for a2sd etc. if it still doesn't work then take the card back it's probably faulty.
I bought this card too and even though I had no issues formatting the card I do have speed issues with it. I've been in contact with Kingston and they're looking into it. My writing speed is 1.6Mb/s....
But now a tip for you, I couldn't use Gparted since it's Live CD wont start my monitors. So I downloaded Easeus Partition Master. Very easy to use and it worked perfect.
Start with your Fat32 partition and then your Ext partition.
You can find the program here: http://download.cnet.com/Easeus-Partition-Master-Home-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html
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How to clone Microsd card ?

I just got a new 16gb Microsd card and want to shift everything from my old 8gb one....thing is i used the old one for AP2SD and Davlick to SD.....is there any way to "clone" the card so that i dont lose any apps and settings ?
put the old card out of the phone
insert it into a cardreader
start a linux of your choice(maybe Gparted-livecd) and mount your hdd and the sd-fat32 and sd-ext
now copy everything from the 2partitions on you harddisk
unmount the sd
put the new one in
if you use already use gparted its easy, make at the first part (left side) the fat 32 partition
than partition the rest as ext (would suggest ext-3 best suported) ~1gb
after this move the fat part on the fat partition and the ext on the ext partition
you should be done
good luck
Sounds easy!
Just had a question relating to this, would buying a class 6 SD card make much difference to the speed of the phone for a CM7 rom compared to a class 4 card?
crendot said:
put the old card out of the phone
insert it into a cardreader
start a linux of your choice(maybe Gparted-livecd) and mount your hdd and the sd-fat32 and sd-ext
now copy everything from the 2partitions on you harddisk
unmount the sd
put the new one in
if you use already use gparted its easy, make at the first part (left side) the fat 32 partition
than partition the rest as ext (would suggest ext-3 best suported) ~1gb
after this move the fat part on the fat partition and the ext on the ext partition
you should be done
good luck
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ranasrule said:
I just got a new 16gb Microsd card and want to shift everything from my old 8gb one....thing is i used the old one for AP2SD and Davlick to SD.....is there any way to "clone" the card so that i dont lose any apps and settings ?
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Well, it sounds easy, but I'm afraid it is not. (it seemed to me like my ROM held some kind of partition table with it, in which was defined how big the partitions were and which filetype they were in).
So after partitioning my new SD-card, different size and lay-out, my Phone did not want to mount the SD-card...
I tried this before and it didn't work.
I ended up doing a disc to disc copy (image cloning) from my 8gb to 16gb sd and only then it worked.
I used Acronis true image to get the job done.
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/
Burn this iso on disc, insert both SD-cards in pc and boot from the hirens boot disc. Then select imaging tools in the menu, select acronis
In acronis you select disk to disk copy or disk cloning and then select source (old SD), then proportional cloning, then select destination (new SD).
Should take about an hour.
If you need help, shout plz.
I will try to make a tutorial when I get home from work, or maybe later.
Grtz!
Shark
hairykewell said:
Sounds easy!
Just had a question relating to this, would buying a class 6 SD card make much difference to the speed of the phone for a CM7 rom compared to a class 4 card?
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Hi,
Well not that much.
The class stands for max Mbps write or read spead, can't recall which of them two... so it makes a difference, but not that much.
From 4 to 10 makes much more difference
Grtz!
InnerShark said:
Well, it sounds easy, but I'm afraid it is not. (it seemed to me like my ROM held some kind of partition table with it, in which was defined how big the partitions were and which filetype they were in).
So after partitioning my new SD-card, different size and lay-out, my Phone did not want to mount the SD-card...
I tried this before and it didn't work.
I ended up doing a disc to disc copy (image cloning) from my 8gb to 16gb sd and only then it worked.
I used Acronis true image to get the job done.
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/
Burn this iso on disc, insert both SD-cards in pc and boot from the hirens boot disc. Then select imaging tools in the menu, select acronis
In acronis you select disk to disk copy or disk cloning and then select source (old SD), then proportional cloning, then select destination (new SD).
Should take about an hour.
If you need help, shout plz.
I will try to make a tutorial when I get home from work, or maybe later.
Grtz!
Shark
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Thanks for that, I'll try it when I buy a new card
crendot said:
put the old card out of the phone
insert it into a cardreader
start a linux of your choice(maybe Gparted-livecd) and mount your hdd and the sd-fat32 and sd-ext
now copy everything from the 2partitions on you harddisk
unmount the sd
put the new one in
if you use already use gparted its easy, make at the first part (left side) the fat 32 partition
than partition the rest as ext (would suggest ext-3 best suported) ~1gb
after this move the fat part on the fat partition and the ext on the ext partition
you should be done
good luck
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Thanks~IT's useful to me~
Thanks for this one! I have a class 2 microsd in my t-mobile g2/htc desire z, and I just bought a class 10. Can't wait to give this a go

[Q] How to change SD Card when using a D2EXT ROM ?

Hello,
I'm using the MIUI-XJ ROM, with D2EXT. Unfortunately, I use a crappy class 2 micro SD card, and it makes the ROM and apps laggy as hell. So i've got 2 questions :
- First, how can I transfer an app from the sd card, so D2EXT, to internal memory, so it uses the few MBs free I have, and avoid lagging ? (Especially for homes such as SPB Shell... It makes the whole phone lag)
- I plan to buy a class 10 micro sd card. Are the SDHC a good solution ? Does it work with D2EXT ? When I'll have it, how can I transfer everything from the old card to the new one without losing anything ? Would a simple copy/cut work ? Or do I have to use backup apps such as the ROM Manager or TItanium Backup ?
Concerning the partitions, would I have to partition the new sd card ? What partitions ?
That's a lot of questions, sorry...
Thanks.
Firstly, you cant.
Secondly, SDHC just means "Secure Digital High Capacity". Yes Data2ext will work on this.
The best way to "Upgrade" is to take a nandroid backup, partition the new card, copy all the data from the FAT32 partition to the new FAT32 partition (including hidden files such as ".android_secure" and nandroid restore. Upgrade should be seamless.
rootSU said:
Firstly, you cant.
Secondly, SDHC just means "Secure Digital High Capacity". Yes Data2ext will work on this.
The best way to "Upgrade" is to take a nandroid backup, partition the new card, copy all the data from the FAT32 partition to the new FAT32 partition (including hidden files such as ".android_secure" and nandroid restore. Upgrade should be seamless.
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Thanks for this quick answer. For the SDHC, I asked because when flashing the Wii, some memory cards (SDHC ones) aren't compatible, and I got ****ed by that. Don't want to spend around 50-60€ for nothing
Ok, so I'll do that, just have to find how I partitionned it first... Thanks a lot.

[Q] What should be done before changing microSD s

Dear Guys
I am using 8gb microSD with my HTC One V
Its full of programs, musics, videos etc
I bought 32gb
How should I continue with 32 gb microSD without crashing anything
Thanks
demirmert said:
Dear Guys
I am using 8gb microSD with my HTC One V
Its full of programs, musics, videos etc
I bought 32gb
How should I continue with 32 gb microSD without crashing anything
Thanks
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I prefer U can simply format your new card from phone & COPY & PASTE all stuff to it from old Card as it is.
(As same i follows whn buy new card & it works same as old card)
If you have 32GB SD Card, i think it'll be better if you create 2nd partition (EXT4) & 3rd partition for swap file.
You can read more details & find the tutorial from here or here. :good:
It's very useful since One V's internal memory is a lil bit small...
Thanks guys
I made 3 partitions
3gb Ext2
10gb Ext4
Remaining 18gb Ext4
I don't understand actually but I made like this
Is it OK?
Here's my opinion, hope it can help..
1st partition: 25GB FAT32 (Primary). It is for your main storage, such as video, music, photo, etc.
2nd Partition: 5GB EXT4 (Primary). For Link2SD. Make sure your kernel support EXT4. if it's not, then just make EXT2.
3rd Partition: 1GB Swap File (also Primary).
theiNDrAs said:
Here's my opinion, hope it can help..
1st partition: 25GB FAT32 (Primary). It is for your main storage, such as video, music, photo, etc.
2nd Partition: 5GB EXT4 (Primary). For Link2SD. Make sure your kernel support EXT4. if it's not, then just make EXT2.
3rd Partition: 1GB Swap File (also Primary).
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Thanks man
If I put the old files to the new card
Will it work same as before?
demirmert said:
Thanks man
If I put the old files to the new card
Will it work same as before?
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Well i never try to only copy & paste my files from the old sd card to the new one, so i'm not really sure whether it'll works perfectly or not..
But i think you can't just simply paste your files from your old sd card (without 2nd partition) to your new sd card (with 2nd & 3rd parttion),
because of the differences of the file system & the configuration within the old & the new ones. Except if you have the same setting & configuration between those two from the beginning.
So to play it safe, i guess you only able to paste your non-system file from your sd card...CMIIW
i thought there isnt any kernel which supports SWAP on one v yet .. the TITANIUM KISS only has a script to use 130 MB in the internal EMMC as Swap .. does making a swap partition in the SD help ?
See : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31441526&postcount=17

why not support lg k10 sdcard format ext2 or exfat?

Hi
I format ext2 micro sdcard but not support lg k10 also formt exfat not support. Only support fat32
Does anyone know why it does not support?
I testd micro sdcard format exfat,ntfs,ext2,ext4 but not support only fat32 support for lg k10
Has anyone tested?
123xdagsm said:
I testd micro sdcard format exfat,ntfs,ext2,ext4 but not support only fat32 support for lg k10
Has anyone tested?
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On most phones only fat32 formatted sd card works. If u have a rooted phone and a partitioned sd card then u can use softwares like apps2sd to install apps on sd card in that situation if u partitioned your sd card in to formats i.e. one partition is fat32 ( main partition or partiton 1) and decond partiton can br any format only that app can recognise the second partition but your apps will be installed in it and work properly and your phone eill recognise only the fat33 partitiin. Im talking about phones generally and not only k10 cuz. Most of the phones only support fat32
waleeds1 said:
On most phones only fat32 formatted sd card works. If u have a rooted phone and a partitioned sd card then u can use softwares like apps2sd to install apps on sd card in that situation if u partitioned your sd card in to formats i.e. one partition is fat32 ( main partition or partiton 1) and decond partiton can br any format only that app can recognise the second partition but your apps will be installed in it and work properly and your phone eill recognise only the fat33 partitiin. Im talking about phones generally and not only k10 cuz. Most of the phones only support fat32
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my phone is rooted
but I have another phones base c
m rom and tablet I can use for microsdcard formatts exfat,ntfs,ext4
android is base Linux and must support most format
lg phones are limited
fat32 not support file size more then 4GIG
May be a way to work or install custom rom
123xdagsm said:
my phone is rooted
but I have another phones base c
m rom and tablet I can use for microsdcard formatts exfat,ntfs,ext4
android is base Linux and must support most format
lg phones are limited
fat32 not support file size more then 4GIG
May be a way to work or install custom rom
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How much is your sd card capacity ? On most samsung phones also it only recogbises fat32.u can still use that app if u want i will expalin how to partition sd card into 2 formats
waleeds1 said:
How much is your sd card capacity ? On most samsung phones also it only recogbises fat32.u can still use that app if u want i will expalin how to partition sd card into 2 formats
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Thanks
my sdcard is 32g
Yes, can create two formats, but it's some app only knows
If recognize sdcard more format support would be much better.
example
I want download file more than 4gig but can't because that's fat32
123xdagsm said:
Thanks
my sdcard is 32g
If recognize sdcard more format support would be much better.
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So this is the easier way to partition there is another way using pc but yiu should try this first.
First download this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd
Then go to partition tool in it. There you will see a bar slide it to hoe much you want your main partion which is fat32 to be. I have attached an image thats the thing. But this is from the playstore app image because i didnt root my lg yet and did this before in samsung and dont have access to that phone. So you csn see in the pic. Uncheck the 2nd partiton (in the pic its checked but u have to uncheck it). So now you will have 2 partitions in your sd card but makesure u make the main partion fat32 or else your phone wont recognise the sd card. Now press yes after its done you might get a message to create mount script it will be writren what to do. Now it will ask to reboot phone after reboot go to storage and now if successull you will see your sd card for eg if u set main partiton to 16 gb then you will see your sd card showing 16 gb but dont worry. Now open the app and from there you can link apps to sd card second partion you can move whole games and apps. IM NOT RESPONISBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR PHONE OR SD CARD.
if it doesnt work or any other question feel free to ask
waleeds1 said:
So this is the easier way to partition there is another way using pc but yiu should try this first.
First download this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=in.co.pricealert.apps2sd
Then go to partition tool in it. There you will see a bar slide it to hoe much you want your main partion which is fat32 to be. I have attached an image thats the thing. But this is from the playstore app image because i didnt root my lg yet and did this before in samsung and dont have access to that phone. So you csn see in the pic. Uncheck the 2nd partiton (in the pic its checked but u have to uncheck it). So now you will have 2 partitions in your sd card but makesure u make the main partion fat32 or else your phone wont recognise the sd card. Now press yes after its done you might get a message to create mount script it will be writren what to do. Now it will ask to reboot phone after reboot go to storage and now if successull you will see your sd card for eg if u set main partiton to 16 gb then you will see your sd card showing 16 gb but dont worry. Now open the app and from there you can link apps to sd card second partion you can move whole games and apps. IM NOT RESPONISBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE TO YOUR PHONE OR SD CARD.
if it doesnt work or any other question feel free to ask
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do you think that with this methode in set path download folder. for app ADM in the partition ext4 ?
123xdagsm said:
do you think that with this methode in set path download folder. for app ADM in the partition ext4 ?
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You mean set the download location to sd card by linking download manager to sd csrd if thats what you are saying then yes i tried that and it worked
waleeds1 said:
You mean set the download location to sd card by linking download manager to sd csrd if thats what you are saying then yes i tried that and it worked
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thanks for quick reply
my means set download location into second partition ext4
because my file is more than 4g
can?
@123xdagsm yes you can btw did you partiton it successfully? Btw in the settings you can set many setting like automatically link apps to sd as soon as you download it to your phone but i guess this phones mem is sufficient cuz i was on an 8gb device before and faced probs not on this on this i have so much space
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@123xdagsm yes you can btw did you partiton it successfully? Btw in the settings you can set many setting like automatically link apps to sd as soon as you download it to your phone but i guess this phones mem is sufficient cuz i was on an 8gb device before and faced probs not on this on this i have so much space
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Ok
I did not test it yet but sure test it
123xdagsm said:
Ok
I did not test it yet but sure test it
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So did u test?
K10 supports only FAT32 upto 32 gb without reformatting before it can use. If you put a 64 gb on k10 it will force you to reformatt it as FAT32. Exfat is 64gb and above and do not have limits on each file. While fat32 can carry 4gb per file.

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