Hi, I've noticed that my phone kills apps very frequently, which I don't have a problem with. The problem is that it kills apps that are running in the background. For example when I've captured a photo sphere and close the camera, it doesn't even have time to create or save the sphere before the system kills it. It also kills the launcher almost every time I start an app.
Is there a way for me to fix this, or is there an app that can fix it? My phone doesn't have root, though.
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Why don't all app's have a exit or close? Take Facebook for instance once, you load that app it stays open no way to close it and taking up battery. Is there a app so you can have theses close.
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For crying out loud, search a little. You have a rooted device running Leo Droid and yet NO IDEA how Android manages applications? There are a plethora of task killers (-> google it) around, but also everybody knows they are not needed (-> google it).
Don't get me wrong, I know that not knowing stuff is a perfectly natural thing for a human being (after all, I am a teacher). But in this day and age of information being readily available at the click of your mouse (Google et consortes, this forum's "Search" button...) you still need someone to find/type in the answer to YOUR QUESTION so that you get it on a platter... Sigh.
shankly1985 said:
Why don't all app's have a exit or close? Take Facebook for instance once, you load that app it stays open no way to close it and taking up battery. Is there a app so you can have theses close.
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Read this right away!
Multitasking the Android Way
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
P.S Do NOT use any of those task killers on your 2.1 or later versions of Android phone!
Cheers!
Concerning Facebook I totally understand his complain. Even with disabled notifications and "leaving" the app via backbutton it is listed as the highest battery-consumer (under*#*#4636#*#* --> battery usage while idle).
Since I didn't find a solution for that I uninstalled Facebook. But the other guys are right, as long as an app is programmed well, it does nothing in background and sleeps. No need to close apps or free RAM. Free RAM is always a sign of bad memory management in the OS so keep it filled up as it will speed up your phone!
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Thanks facebook is high battery consumer, never used a task killer and I never will.
elburna said:
Concerning Facebook I totally understand his complain. Even with disabled notifications and "leaving" the app via backbutton it is listed as the highest battery-consumer (under*#*#4636#*#* --> battery usage while idle).
Since I didn't find a solution for that I uninstalled Facebook. But the other guys are right, as long as an app is programmed well, it does nothing in background and sleeps. No need to close apps or free RAM. Free RAM is always a sign of bad memory management in the OS so keep it filled up as it will speed up your phone!
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I have installed the facebook-app and it is no battery drainer for me.
Go to chat, then menu -> go offline.
if the app is closed then it won't sync up itself will it? (or if it does it'll just restart itself again).
say you have facebook to sync each hour - I thought the hour was from open...
so open check news feed, back out of it (facebook still running), after running for an hour it will check again and notify you if you have notifications on...
The only thing that does seem to annoy me slightly is when I open improved email it seems to open a whole host of other apps at the same time, including soundhound, stocks, maps, and about 10 other things... no idea why as it doesn't need those apps opening at all
Android is praised for having 'real' multitasking. But why does it have to 'suck' on a phone with 1GB memory?
Chrome starts to reload 3-4 tabs only if it's the only app 'opened' (of course there are other background services. but I don't have much running services, map, google messaging service, keyboard, )
I think it could also be problem with app. app not releasing memory resource when goes to background.
But it's really annoying to see that apps activity needs to be created again from scratch after opening a few apps.
Please discuss your opinion here.
Bayint Naung said:
Android is praised for having 'real' multitasking. But why does it have to 'suck' on a phone with 1GB memory?
Chrome starts to reload 3-4 tabs only if it's the only app 'opened' (of course there are other background services. but I don't have much running services, map, google messaging service, keyboard, )
I think it could also be problem with app. app not releasing memory resource when goes to background.
But it's really annoying to see that apps activity needs to be created again from scratch after opening a few apps.
Please discuss your opinion here.
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No problems here..
try to avoid apps with high memory usage, one being the Facebook app
crixley said:
No problems here..
try to avoid apps with high memory usage, one being the Facebook app
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I don't have facebook running as I've said earlier. I don't even have it installed.
But I"m still not convinced that it's the BEST android multitasking could have. it's too aggressively killing background activity..
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I don't have facebook running as I've said earlier. I don't even have it installed.
But I"m still not convinced that it's the BEST android multitasking could have. it's too aggressively killing background activity..
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Get autokiller from the market and adjust the settings then. You want lower numbers in the app to allow more applications to stay active. Note that some apps might just kill background memory use, there's nothing you can do about that one.
Doing this might make your phone more laggy. You need to decide for yourself what the best trade-off is for you.
When exactly does it do it? I have 5 tabs open and I'm good! Is it after a while of inactivity?
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I have never noticed this issue.
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When exactly does it do it? I have 5 tabs open and I'm good! Is it after a while of inactivity?
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It's not a refresh (like refresh web page), I think it's just re-rendered from the cache..
even though I'm android fan, I'm jealous how iOS manage to run pretty well for daily use with 512MB... probably dalvik JIT is culprit here?
I personally think this is a problem with chrome and this is the reason I don't like chrome because it runs a constant large service at 70+ mb at all times which takes away from general multitasking of the phone. My guess is this is related to your problem. Persistent services on android are rather powerful and when one is too large it has detrimental effects. Maybe others don't experience this with chrome, but I did, and that's why I stopped using it.
Yes, chrome is worse than stock browser.
Stock can maintain usually 4-5 tabs easily without reloading.
Hopefully Google could do something with both chrome and improve OS multitasking capability.
Running jbsourcery v5 (4.2.2). I can't get any process to stay running at all. Lmt dies on me and restarts after browsing the web for a bit, after that it seems to die and restart every 5 mins. I downloaded sidebar today and its the same story but worse. The memory doesn't even need to be loaded, just lightly using my phone it dies and doesn't come back until I start it manually, this happens about every 5 mins and is EXTREMELY annoying. I've tweaked every single memory setting back and forth and also tried converting both to system apps but they force close and don't work.is there any way to force android to keep a process running or keep this from happening?
Edit: I should mention this has never happened with the weather bug status bar temperature. It sucks because both those apps are completely useless if they don't stay running
for anyone else with the same problem whether its a different app or not, i think i found the answer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
i just copied another file in my init.d, renamed it and added the info for the app and restarted. i checked it with rom toolbox and it shows the OOM group as being excluded... vs foreground, visibile, empty app, etc. time will tell but i think this is going to work and i can think of another 2 or 3 times this would have been amazing to know. in any event, hopefully someone else may find this useful.
noobish disclaimer: it would be HIGHLY advised not to do this with any apps that have a large memory footprint
aaaanddd. it still doesnt work, app already disappeared. would this be classified as a legitimate memory leak?
App pimp my rom has a lock app in memory setting. Tried it yet?
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App pimp my rom has a lock app in memory setting. Tried it yet?
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lol i was just about to mention that. i wasnt finding anything about it at first because i was googling locking processes in memory. once i changed processes to applications, i found a thread mentioning it, and so far, it looks like this might have finally solved it. i havent had sidebar close yet so its looking pretty good.
I dealed with problems with killing background apps on Xperia Ion stock ROM. I was depressed when my timer app got killed, even energy saver app etc. what I expected to work like a charm.
I have also Endomondo runnning in background, stopping somewhere to take a photo and endomondo is gone.
It's not better even after root and using XTX and XZX roms.
Is there any good approach to fix this? I read about supercharger, but didn't try it yet. Do you have a successful fix for this issue?
Thanks in advance.
PS: maybe another issue, but my browsers dissapear constantly (chrome and the default browser). Not even giving a FC dialog, just gone. Do you have the same?
http://www.xda-developers.com/galax...ent-test-shows-improvement-over-predecessors/
Someone in the comment claim that he/she can switch between 12 app on moto e with 1GB ram(see attached screen shot), I personally can't even switch between Feedly and Google chrome without reloading. I did notice that this only happen if I stayed in chrome for too long, there is no problem when immediately switching between two apps. only when I spend like 5 minutes on chrome reading a passage on Engadget(plain text) and switch back to Feedly, it reloads. I did not install any live Wallpaper nor heavy app , only Google now launcher, opera mini ,Feedly, opera max and those preinstalled app with stock ROM . Is there any solution?
Sorry for my poor English.
Thats not the case with me, my Ze550ml runs smooth even when many apps are in background. No problem in switching. I use xposed, greenify, ram leakage fix module. everything fine here!
Check auto start manager, if the app is not in the list of "allowed to auto-start" then I'll be terminated after the phone goes to stand by or after you manually lock the phone.
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