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Make the Market download apks to SD Card

Hello everyone.
I've recently switched to the Data++ Hboot with 10MB cache. Ever since then I haven't been able to download large apps from the Market.
I was wondering how to make the Market save the APK's on the SD Card instead of the cache partition. If I remember correctly this has been implemented in a number of ROMs, including the Oxygen ROM to name one. Where would I change that?

Sorry for deviating from the topic, but I have this strong urge to ask you this: How did you get 10MB cache with Data++? According to alpharev.nl, Data++ gives 5MB cache....
On a side note, I also have 10MB cache but my apps are installing fine (with a little help from A2SD).....how big are the apps you're trying to download? Maybe I haven't come across "big" ones yet...

Evil_Cid said:
Sorry for deviating from the topic, but I have this strong urge to ask you this: How did you get 10MB cache with Data++? According to alpharev.nl, Data++ gives 5MB cache....
On a side note, I also have 10MB cache but my apps are installing fine (with a little help from A2SD).....how big are the apps you're trying to download? Maybe I haven't come across "big" ones yet...
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Oh I see they've updated their website. I'm using an older version of Data++ (System 180M, Cache 10M, Data 261M). I still have the img plus a screenshot of the website to compare MD5, if you're interested.
Well, it was just a guess. Downloads to Angry Birds (both versions) and Rocket Bunnies are not working, to name a few. Since they're all over 10MB I assumed it was due to the smaller cache partition. I'm also using A2SD btw.

Hmmm,they are not too big then (was expecting 20+MB).....I just downloaded those two apps couple of hours ago on my one and it's running fine even though I've only got 10MB cache.
Normally you'd need a file manager (like the one with Titanium backup or root explorer) to do the job of moving .apk files to SD..these are normally stored in /data/app inside the internal memory and requires root access to get them...but the files must be downloaded in the first place.
Is your system up-to-date? I too had similar problems until I did a complete flash-over and updated everything.... unfortunately I didn't work out the cause of it

Evil_Cid said:
Hmmm,they are not too big then (was expecting 20+MB).....I just downloaded those two apps couple of hours ago on my one and it's running fine even though I've only got 10MB cache.
Normally you'd need a file manager (like the one with Titanium backup or root explorer) to do the job of moving .apk files to SD..these are normally stored in /data/app inside the internal memory and requires root access to get them...but the files must be downloaded in the first place.
Is your system up-to-date? I too had similar problems until I did a complete flash-over and updated everything.... unfortunately I didn't work out the cause of it
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Oh I see, I was under the impression the apks get saved on the cache partition. In that case, I should look for the problem elsewhere. Yes, I'm running the latest Sense ROM (2.29 with the 5 ending), but modified to suit my needs. I guess it could be related to that.
More info about the 'non-downloading'. When I click on install in the Market, the download icon appears quickly in the notification bar and then quickly disappears. Was this the same problem you were having?

In short....yes...that was the main sympton I had....the download icon disappears quickly....and it only happened to some of the apps
Have you tried rebooting the phone?...

Evil_Cid said:
In short....yes...that was the main sympton I had....the download icon disappears quickly....and it only happened to some of the apps
Have you tried rebooting the phone?...
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Yes, tried that. Also tried clearing the dalvik cache and cache but with no success. I have found this while looking for a solution on Google. Seems someone else is having the exact same problem.

tkm89 said:
Yes, tried that. Also tried clearing the dalvik cache and cache but with no success. I have found this while looking for a solution on Google. Seems someone else is having the exact same problem.
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Hmm, yea. The thing that's really frustrating is I still don't know what the problem was in my case..if I did I could've been a little bit more helpful. In my "rage" I just flashed a new kernel and a new ROM and that sorted out the problem for me....didn't stop to wonder what was actually causing it.
EDIT: I think changing the kernel, especially, did it for me...

Hmm…
I have the same problem (except my /cache is 3MB so I can't download files larger than that).
Funny though, it used to work just fine (I have Angry Birds and flash for example), it has only recently started to act up.
If anyone finds a solution (possibly without flashing), I'll be quite grateful
P.S.
When my download fails (downloading icon simply disappears), my logcat shows DownloadManager reporting that there is not enough space (with about 60MB on /data) and then Vending complains about the file not being found (because DownloadManager didn't download it).
Seems like a bug in DownloadManager to me. It probably doesn't look up the cache (mine is in /data/cache IIRC) but uses the free space on /cache to determine if there is enough to fit the .apk.

I'm now working on same think. Need to Market downloading apps to SD card instead of /cache. So is there any tweak for this?

Yep.
Requires a little bit of knowledge about how linux handles mount points.
Basically, the easiest way is to bind mount a folder on the sdcard/data to /cache.

I get this .. I just clear the market cache ... go back into the market , all fine .
I normally have to " download " stuff 3 times , before it installs.

[Q] There is insufficient space on this device

I have E4GT with Caulkins 2.9.1.
I have the following storage available on my device:
SD Card 24.25GB
USB Storage 3.25 GB
Device Memory 1.23 GB
I get the following error when trying to update apps, or install new apps:
"There is insufficient space on this device"
I have gone into settings>apps>google play> clear cache. -> no change
I have downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files. -> no change

The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.

Henri Blanche said:
The error message is a lie written by a lazy programmer. What's actually happening is that the installation is trying to copy or move a file and can't. To circumvent this problem I have to enter root explorer and look for files related to the program I'm trying to upgrade and delete them. Sometimes I just find dangling files which aren't really needed; other times I have to delete the whole shebang and reinstall the program from scratch. One process that I've noticed can sometimes cause this problem is the auto-Odex routine that is available in the Development folder.
Bottom line though is that this problem has NOTHING to do with your available memory space.
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How do I find dangling files in explorer. Is there a was for me to determine which ones are wasted files?
before i read your reply i went into recovery and wiped cached and dalvik cache, thought it worked, because i was finally able to install or update about 3 apps, but then got the same error on the 4th app.
so those steps that have been suggested by others on different devices but with similar errors, did not resolve this issue on E4GT.
thanks for any additional help.

This may help http://bit.ly/GNQOZh take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.

It's usually, but not always, as simple as looking for files with the name of the program imbedded. The most recent program for me was AudioGalaxy.... so I just searched for and deleted any reference to the program that didn't look essential.
If you're REALLY stumped, then download a program from the Market like Log Viewer, which shows you the real-time system log of your Android operating system. That's how I discovered that a failed file copy was being misinterpreted as a full disc in the first place. It also will show you the name of the file being copied or moved and into which directory. Helpful hint: cut and paste the log into something like Notepad for easier reading.
By all means empty out your caches... but only to remove a potential file that's causing you a problem. Like I said, you haven't run out of free space.
Good luck!

A common source for this error is also that there are partitions on your phone that are not visible in the system settings, but which can fill up too.
If you open a console on your device, i.e. with terminal emulator, and type "df" you should see every partition and how much space is free on it.

leaderbuilder said:
This may help take a read. I fought this a while ago and went nuts till I did what I describe.
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I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread

CandyIsYum said:
I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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App Cache Cleaner isn't really that thorough.
Try SD Maid.

CandyIsYum said:
I did this earlier, and then downloaded App Cache Cleaner app and cleared all cached files which did not result in a solution...
im working on other suggestions from this thread
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You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? http://mikemartinezonline.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/03.png I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.

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You 'cleared data' on the media and still had this issue? ] I've had this issue a few times with a few people- again it just happed to me yesterday! Seems that the media storage, media hub, oovoodo, and some others were taking up huge amounst of space. In fact my media storage was at 800MB until I cleared it. Especially noticed this for me after adding and removing media and swapping different sd cards.
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I cleared the app cache there, and still had the issue. I also went into recovery and cleared cache, dalvik cache.
I didn't try the SDMaid method, so if someone else has this same problem, that may be a place to try.
I ended up starting with scratch with my device, and just upgraded to calkulin 2.9.2.
now my device is functioning as expected, and i can finally install angry birds space...

Well same problem shows up again.
updated to Calkulin 3.0, in hopes to resolve the problem, but still no go.
insufficient space when trying to install or update app from google play.
SD Card: 3.25GB Free / 29.7 GB
USB Storage: 7.29 Free / 11.50 GB
Device: 1.29 GB Free.
It's kind of annoying, is this something that would be resolved by going back to stock. This is getting a bit annoying.
thanks again.

Which app?
Edit: Have you tried clearing data for google play in settings/applications/all yet?
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[Q] Apps not installed after reboot

I need a bit of help guys, the thing is that I'm running Pac-Rom on my LG Nitro HD because I found it to be the most stable rom
after a long trial and error period as well bricking my phone many times. I have only 1 problem on this custom rom, my apps tend to disappear for
absolutely no reason whenever the phone turns off or reboots. I've been messing around for the past 3 days trying to figure out if it's some issue
with the encrypted .android.secure folder so I installed all apps onto the onboard internal storage and deleted the folder then tried replacing all the
apps back on the SDcard hoping that would work, and it didn't. Not all of my apps disappear though, some stay on the SDCard and work perfectly
fine but games over 20-30MB will disappear and I have no clue why. My next effort would be to format the entire SDCard again because I don't
understand why these apps keep disappearing Any ways I appreciate any help, I've been googling and lurking this forum for days now haven't found
anything but a terminal command that doesn't work for me :crying:

Wow this forum is really dead huh?

so,you try to install app to sdcard, and they will disappear?
if this is the case,then make sure you sdcard is not fake. i have seen cards formatted as 16gb, but actually is only 2gb

xordos said:
so,you try to install app to sdcard, and they will disappear?
if this is the case,then make sure you sdcard is not fake. i have seen cards formatted as 16gb, but actually is only 2gb
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Nah it's not fake, I have tons of pictures, movies, and music on it as well I'm running Pac-ROM and it shows me the amount of my storage on the sdcard as well, it's just when I install the applications onto the sdcard and the phone restarts the apps I installed onto the sdcard just stay on my screen (if placed on) and when I go to tap on them it says "app not installed" :\

i've never heard of this but it sounds like some sort of bug caused the by reflashing of the partitions during reboot.
does the app get deleted from the sdcard or is the app still on the sdcard just not registered with phone?
if the app hasn't been physically deleted it's a rom issue, try the rom in my sig its based off stock but debloated with custom kernel, its very stable.
or if you have your heart set on the rom your already using, try redownloading and reflashing, don't just reflash your download file was probly corrupt. and i don't think these forums are that dead, this is just a bit of an odd issue that the average person doesn't want to guess at, i like guessing tho
if the app is physically deleted from the sdcard, i would try doing some malware/virus scans, because that would be really fishy.

KronicSkillz said:
i've never heard of this but it sounds like some sort of bug caused the by reflashing of the partitions during reboot.
does the app get deleted from the sdcard or is the app still on the sdcard just not registered with phone?
if the app hasn't been physically deleted it's a rom issue, try the rom in my sig its based off stock but debloated with custom kernel, its very stable.
or if you have your heart set on the rom your already using, try redownloading and reflashing, don't just reflash your download file was probly corrupt. and i don't think these forums are that dead, this is just a bit of an odd issue that the average person doesn't want to guess at, i like guessing tho
if the app is physically deleted from the sdcard, i would try doing some malware/virus scans, because that would be really fishy.
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Well I ended up getting frustrated and downloaded Titanium Backup Pro then moved all my apps onto the SD-Card which works wonders but I decided to change my rom because Pac was using 500mb+ of my ram for system rom memory rather than the normal 200mb since Pac is a hybrid of AOKP, Paranoid Android, and CM10.1 so now I'm happy I got past the SD Card apps not being installed but now I'm having this issue. Yet I cannot even post in the development section due to my posts...

Nevermind I still have the same problem even switching through roms, I'm now running HONO Full Throttle and I'm losing all my apps whenever I restart my phone and have them all on my SD card.

[Q] Major Memory Failure...

My phone is missing 20GB of internal storage and I've done everything to get it back. Please help!
I am fairly certain it is related to an I/O error while trying to move files in my Android Play Music directory which is located at:
/data/data/com.google.android.music/files/music
I tried deleting but that didn't help. I then went booted into recovery and did a factory reset PLUS formatted /System and then installed a ROM from scratch. I am still missing the 20GB. Any thoughts?

Storage does not simply disappear. Try using the app "DiskUsage" and see where all the storage is being used.

did you try formatting sdcard via recovery or fastboot command?

It might some old nandroids you forgot about Go to setting > storage wait for a few seconds let it analyze then check where the space is good luck .. if nothing works out you can always flash factory image that cleans up everything

skottema said:
My phone is missing 20GB of internal storage and I've done everything to get it back. Please help!
I am fairly certain it is related to an I/O error while trying to move files in my Android Play Music directory which is located at:
/data/data/com.google.android.music/files/music
I tried deleting but that didn't help. I then went booted into recovery and did a factory reset PLUS formatted /System and then installed a ROM from scratch. I am still missing the 20GB. Any thoughts?
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That sounds just like the emmc bug, search it.
Also get the app /emmc brick bug. It will show if the memories lost. I'm not saying it is this but it's the same. If it's gone there are two apks you can get that swap SD card for built in. It leaves the system bit alone
Tried to put pick but says need to upgrade app even though got it today!
As you can see it works. One apk swaps, the other undo's it.
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Thank you all for the advice! I could have SWORN I deleted all my old nandroids but apparently I had not. One of the backups had 20GB of google music in it
Gosh I wish google music didn't get backed up by clockworkmod, but I digress...

[Q] Storage Space Running Out, Insufficient storage, my phone trying to screw me?

So...
I've had this problem for a while now, getting worse from day to day. I've asked about this before, but it wasnt solved.
Basically my phone is taking up data in the background. Probably updating, downloading something. Its so bad, that if i dont turn off data on the go, my 1.5GB are used in a day. Sync is turned off at all times
And another side effect of that is, that all that data probably has to be stored somewhere. So Im getting the storage space running out error. Kinda annoying cause I cant use gmail, Cant install any apps(insufficient storage available) etc.
I really have no idea where all that data is(after searching through all the folders for a while now)..
I'm on the latest AOKP Milestone(4.2)
Thanks!

There are a couple things I recommend doing in your position. First thing I would do would be to get an app that allows for more informative breakdown of what is using the storage. Something like diskusage should do the trick. This will allow you to see exactly where data is going, opposed to "misc" Perhaps this will show exactly what is taking up the storage, since you are rooted perhaps backups are the problem.
If that doesn't tell you what you want to know, or if you think an app may be using data behind the scenes then the next step I would do is to use some sort of data usage monitor. The built in one may suffice, settings > data usage. If not there may be better apps out there, although to be honest I have zero experience with those.

cupfulloflol said:
There are a couple things I recommend doing in your position. First thing I would do would be to get an app that allows for more informative breakdown of what is using the storage. Something like diskusage should do the trick. This will allow you to see exactly where data is going, opposed to "misc" Perhaps this will show exactly what is taking up the storage, since you are rooted perhaps backups are the problem.
If that doesn't tell you what you want to know, or if you think an app may be using data behind the scenes then the next step I would do is to use some sort of data usage monitor. The built in one may suffice, settings > data usage. If not there may be better apps out there, although to be honest I have zero experience with those.
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Uploaded a pic what diskusage says. When i hit media it only opens the file manager and directs me to sd storage
BTW this what Onavo says has been consuming data this month:
Market Downloader - 800MB mobile, 2.4Gb Wifi, all in background - and no, i didnt download anything from the play store on the go and hardly anything on wifi - havent updated my apps in weeks b/c of missing storage
Android OS + Others - 530MB mobile and a whooping 12GB on Wifi! All in Background too.

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Uploaded a pic what diskusage says. When i hit media it only opens the file manager and directs me to sd storage
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It looks like you have some nested 0 folders in that pic. Perhaps cleaning that up will clear up some space. Side note, if you haven't updated your custom recovery in a long time it may not be a bad time to look into that.
BTW this what Onavo says has been consuming data this month:
Market Downloader - 800MB mobile, 2.4Gb Wifi, all in background - and no, i didnt download anything from the play store on the go and hardly anything on wifi - havent updated my apps in weeks b/c of missing storage
Android OS + Others - 530MB mobile and a whooping 12GB on Wifi! All in Background too.
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If I were in your situation, I would probably just get a clean start. This also would get rid of the nesting problem I mentioned above.
- I would make a backup of my current setup, probably just using Titanium Backup.
- Backup everything I want to keep from my phone to my PC, going through the 0 folders.
- Use fastboot to flash factory images, allowing it to wipe everything in the process. The .bat file should do this automatically.
- Use fastboot to install a recent custom recovery.
- Push the sdcard backup from my PC to my phone.
From here you have a couple options, root and reinstall Titanium backup and restore some of your apps (no system data) or go back into custom ROMs. You could flash AOKP again, or pick a different ROM.
A bit heavy handed, but I think that would be the least time consuming option considering the problem(s).

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It looks like you have some nested 0 folders in that pic. Perhaps cleaning that up will clear up some space. Side note, if you haven't updated your custom recovery in a long time it may not be a bad time to look into that.
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Yeah I noticed that like half a year ago, had no idea why that happened. At one point I felt like everytime I flashed a new rom a new 0 folder appeared.. How does that happen?
cupfulloflol said:
If I were in your situation, I would probably just get a clean start. This also would get rid of the nesting problem I mentioned above.
- I would make a backup of my current setup, probably just using Titanium Backup.
- Backup everything I want to keep from my phone to my PC, going through the 0 folders.
- Use fastboot to flash factory images, allowing it to wipe everything in the process. The .bat file should do this automatically.
- Use fastboot to install a recent custom recovery.
- Push the sdcard backup from my PC to my phone.
From here you have a couple options, root and reinstall Titanium backup and restore some of your apps (no system data) or go back into custom ROMs. You could flash AOKP again, or pick a different ROM.
A bit heavy handed, but I think that would be the least time consuming option considering the problem(s).
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I was actually thinking about a clean start, googleing how to wipe everything and I read that thats kinda not possbile. But thanks for those steps, I'll do that when I have time!
Thanks

Timoooo said:
Yeah I noticed that like half a year ago, had no idea why that happened. At one point I felt like everytime I flashed a new rom a new 0 folder appeared.. How does that happen?
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Basically when 4.2 came out, it brought along multi-user functionality. Custom recoveries at the time, when wiping and installing ended up creating the nesting problem. Recoveries then were updated, which doesn't create a bunch of /0 folders (one existing is correct). This was a super common problem about a year ago when 4.2 came to be. There were hundreds of threads about this problem, with more detailed info about what happens, why, and how to fix it. Wiping everything is one of the solutions, and since this isn't your only problem, this would probably be the recommended solution.
I was actually thinking about a clean start, googleing how to wipe everything and I read that thats kinda not possbile. But thanks for those steps, I'll do that when I have time!
Thanks
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I am not sure where you read that a wiping everything isn't possible, but whoever said that is all sorts of wrong. There are multiple ways to wipe things.

Just did what you said and it looks like everything worked! Everything is deleted, I have almost 13 gigs of free space, rooted my phone again and I'll probably install aokp or paranoid in a couple days.
No 0 Folders anymore and I'm sure as hell hoping that my data consumption will be fine now. I'll keep you updated on that in a few weeks again, but thanks for the help!

looks good thanks bud