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[Q] Flashing OTA Update

Hi, I just got the Epic 4G Touch today. I plan to root the phone in about a month after playing with it on Stock Rom. there is an update that Sprint wants me to do. if I do it will I'll be ruin the chances to Root my phone later?.

The current update won't affect your ability to root. A future update might affect how easy it is to root. So this update is ok, but before future updates you should check back again.

sfhub said:
The current update won't affect your ability to root. A future update might affect how easy it is to root. So this update is ok, but before future updates you should check back again.
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Do you recomend that I wait before root or go ahead?. can I go back to the original rom if I wanted to?.
Thanks.

caguas56 said:
Do you recomend that I wait before root or go ahead?. can I go back to the original rom if I wanted to?.
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You can root before or afterwards, doesn't make a huge difference. I would recommend after you upgrade that you stick with the stock rom for a day or two to get a feel for how things are working on stock. Then when/if you install custom ROMs or make changes, you will have a baseline to compare to for figuring out what is causing issues you might encounter.
You can go back to the original ROM if you want. There are multiple ways to do it. You can use the EG30 ODIN tar in my signature. Alternatively if you want to root right now, use the Auto Root thread in my signature to root (Option A) and install EG30+CWM (Option C). From there, boot into CWM and make a CWM/nandroid backup of your system. That will be an exact image of what you are currently running, except for the modem. That way it is easier to go back to where you started. You can put the EG30 modem back using other means. The CWM/nandroid backup gets you 95% of the way there.

sfhub : thanks for all your help. this community has been great to me. thanks so much!!!

back to stock

basically i want to get back to a fresh start, as i think some issues im having trying new roms that arent working are because the system is a mess.
i have a rogers s3 1747, currently rooted and on frosty jb
but some odd things happen when i load a newer version of this rom series, and even when i restore my backups some odd things continue.
so..........
what i want to do is , set it back to stock, grab my official jelly bean update from rogers, then root it, and make a nandroid backup of that.
then i can continue on and play with other roms.

austin912 said:
basically i want to get back to a fresh start, as i think some issues im having trying new roms that arent working are because the system is a mess.
i have a rogers s3 1747, currently rooted and on frosty jb
but some odd things happen when i load a newer version of this rom series, and even when i restore my backups some odd things continue.
so..........
what i want to do is , set it back to stock, grab my official jelly bean update from rogers, then root it, and make a nandroid backup of that.
then i can continue on and play with other roms.
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you need to odin back to stock sir
find odin here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722686
and find the .tar file that fits your device here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
cheers

HRodMusic said:
you need to odin back to stock sir
find odin here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722686
and find the .tar file that fits your device here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625
cheers
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just to confirm, will this erase all ex sd card files as well?

austin912 said:
just to confirm, will this erase all ex sd card files as well?
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It should not (it certainly doesn't erase the internal storage, i.e. what appears as an internal SD card as opposed to /data and the like).
If you're really paranoid about it, you could always remove the card first.

thanx guys
another question somebody might be able to help me with, i`d ask in the actual thread but it tells me i cant yet ?
anyways
ive been using frosty jb v4 for awhile, awesome rom. its for att
wanted to try frosty v11.2.1 its -T999 UVLDJA Base, but many have said it can be used on 1747 from rogers.
well i have installed it, and the odd thing is, everything works great except 1 app, when i open contacts, i get a force close, right away, havent touched anything as far as changes go.
thats why i wanted to get back to stock cause i thought my phone was just messed up with various rom files.
it says this as part of the instructions.........
For BEST RESULTS: If coming from ICS or AOSP based ROM I suggest you Odin to stock UVDLJA first then flash Frosty Jellybean!
that meaan i have to flash a stock of UVDLJA from t999 ? to get it to work better?

Question about rooting with odin

I recently took the ota update to 4.1.2 mb1 and lost root. My question is can I use odin to flash [ROM|Stock Rooted] 3/3/13 Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (L710VPBMB1) Odex/DeOdex? And If so do I use the full ROM odex? And Do I have to flash anything besides the ROM? Or can I keep everything else stock?

Monoclypsus said:
I recently took the ota update to 4.1.2 mb1 and lost root. My question is can I use odin to flash [ROM|Stock Rooted] 3/3/13 Sprint Touchwiz Jelly Bean 4.1.2 (L710VPBMB1) Odex/DeOdex? And If so do I use the full ROM odex? And Do I have to flash anything besides the ROM? Or can I keep everything else stock?
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Hey there buddy, welcome to XDA (I see this is your second post).
Anyways, do you still have a custom recovery? I'm assuming you don't, since it sounds like you went all the way back to stock unrooted in order o get the update (in the future, Freeza typically has the update for Root users a week or so after the OTA release, so no need to go back to stock unrooted).
Anyways, back to your current situation. Since you most-likely have the stock recovery, you'll have to go back to being rooted with either CWM or TWRP (I prefer TWRP, but they're both good). I personally use mskip's toolkit, it's fairly straightforward. You could also follow qbking77's rooting method. He does a good job explaining how to root. Samsung hasn't locked their bootloader and don't try to in their updates, so these rooting methods stand the test of time (and updates).
Once you have a custom recovery installed (or if you already have one installed), FIRST THING to do is perform a nandroid backup. THIS IS KEY. Once you have one done, go ahead and flash Freeza's Stock Rooted ROM. I'd recommend doing a clean flash, as it's the best way to minimize the chances of errors and bugs. Just wipe system and cache and dalvik cache, and then flash the downloaded ROM. And speaking of downloading, be sure to check the md5 sum of the download before you flash. Most problems with the stable ROMs here on XDA stem from bad downloads.
You can also check out other ROMs. I won't go too crazy on advertising here, but scroll through these two sub-forums, Android Development and Original Android Development. I've enjoyed most ROMs I've tried.
Hope this helps!

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topherk said:
Hey there buddy, welcome to XDA (I see this is your second post).
Anyways, do you still have a custom recovery? I'm assuming you don't, since it sounds like you went all the way back to stock unrooted in order o get the update (in the future, Freeza typically has the update for Root users a week or so after the OTA release, so no need to go back to stock unrooted).
Anyways, back to your current situation. Since you most-likely have the stock recovery, you'll have to go back to being rooted with either CWM or TWRP (I prefer TWRP, but they're both good). I personally use mskip's toolkit, it's fairly straightforward. You could also follow qbking77's rooting method. He does a good job explaining how to root. Samsung hasn't locked their bootloader and don't try to in their updates, so these rooting methods stand the test of time (and updates).
Once you have a custom recovery installed (or if you already have one installed), FIRST THING to do is perform a nandroid backup. THIS IS KEY. Once you have one done, go ahead and flash Freeza's Stock Rooted ROM. I'd recommend doing a clean flash, as it's the best way to minimize the chances of errors and bugs. Just wipe system and cache and dalvik cache, and then flash the downloaded ROM. And speaking of downloading, be sure to check the md5 sum of the download before you flash. Most problems with the stable ROMs here on XDA stem from bad downloads.
You can also check out other ROMs. I won't go too crazy on advertising here, but scroll through these two sub-forums, Android Development and Original Android Development. I've enjoyed most ROMs I've tried.
Hope this helps!
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Ok, just out of curiousity... Before I took the OTA i was rooted 4.1.1 stock with stock recovery. Is there any way to do it the same? The method I used before was this [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPBLJ7] JB 4.1.1. It was super quick and easy.

Monoclypsus said:
Ok, just out of curiousity... Before I took the OTA i was rooted 4.1.1 stock with stock recovery. Is there any way to do it the same? The method I used before was this [HOWTO] [ROOT] No Tripping Flash Counter [SPR L710VPBLJ7] JB 4.1.1. It was super quick and easy.
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Yeah, that same method should work. I personally like the custom recoveries, but understand your desires to leave it at stock recovery (not triggering the flash counter).
Like I mentioned before, Samsung hasn't (and most likely won't) locked their bootloaders, so any rooting method that has worked in the past should work in the future. Just make sure to read the last 3-4 pages of the thread for whatever method you're trying to use to see if there are any issues. I know an earlier version of mskip's toolkit was having issues with JB for a little bit (it's updated now).

Well I'm gonna give it a shot. Ill let you know how it turns out.
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Just went with cf autoroot. Worked fine.
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I've got a problem I installed the OTA and now I cant boot into android. Its stuck on starting apps. I have the stock recovery. How can I fix this?. What do I do? I can get to ODIN download mode. *edit** can get into safemode too. And I now have a custom recovery installed.
I still dont know what to do from here. How do I flash the downloaded rom because the new file I downloaded seems to be a zip and can only be flashed with CWM not ODIN. I cant place it in the right directory of my phone to do that.

jkj said:
I've got a problem I installed the OTA and now I cant boot into android. Its stuck on starting apps. I have the stock recovery. How can I fix this?. What do I do? I can get to ODIN download mode. *edit** can get into safemode too. And I now have a custom recovery installed.
I still dont know what to do from here. How do I flash the downloaded rom because the new file I downloaded seems to be a zip and can only be flashed with CWM not ODIN. I cant place it in the right directory of my phone to do that.
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I replied to your thread. I hope it works for what you need.

Okay to upgrade from 4.1.2?

New to this phone and I am running 4.1.2 there is a system update a 4.3 that's already downloaded and ready to install but I wanted to make sure the update didn't install any new locks on my phone before I accept. I plan on rooting soon.
Thanks
Rich

U get knox but there are ways to still root with knox so go ahead update
High Definition Note II

Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.

tx_dbs_tx said:
Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..

I Would Accept It.
doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.

flashred said:
If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...

doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.

flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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I'm wondering the same thing. But if we root then accept the OTA won't that enable the knox counter? So that if we now, "flash away".... won't every flash be counted?
Shouldn't we root, then install the custom roms without the knox? Or do the custom roms also include the knox counter tripping mechanism?
I would like to know how this works also.
Thanks.

I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.

Stock 4.3 Deodexed, deknoxed, Rooted Rom Available?
lovekeiiy said:
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.

flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been busy with work, and family things.Use billards return to full stock with counter reset. It installs everything including recovery, boot loader,firemware etc... Then set up your phone, when prompt accept the ota update.. Once done retoot, and flash what ever 4.3 rom you want.. The knox counter will still be there, but if you need a trip back to Sprint, go back to Full MC2 stock, knox counter will no longer be there.. Most 4.3 room do not include the Knox files so no worries there.

flashred said:
So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
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Sounds like it. The odd part, I have been able to flash Reject's stock deoxidezed deknoxed rom with no problem. I tried to flash Classic 3, but it froze on Classic's initial loading page (the one after the Samsung boot loader). I had issues another rom, but turned out it was for the international model; I wasn't paying attention where I was in the forums.
If you do what I did, you'll need to flash modem update using Odin on the PC. So, you may need to download Odin.
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Depending on what you like to do, you may find 4.3 MK4 more limiting, espcially on the TouchWiz side. AOSP probably more mod friendly at this point. From what I've been able to find, there is only one custom kernal for 4.3 TouchWiz which is Devil's Kernal. It's solid, but my phone was unstable. Not sure if the phone since I may have taken out something it used when I was trying to debloat the phone. Didn't care for his Kernel Tweak manager. Neither the stock or devil's kernal supports Stweaks. Neither I could figure out how to change the boat loading animation.
I have nothing against AOSP projects. I like them. But as far as I know, none support the Spen, which I like to use with web browsers. Don't use the Samnsung Spen apps. Just wasn't that impressed with them, but I see how they can be useful. Although, SketchPro is really nice with it. I just find TouchWiz is more than sufficient for my needs and stock isn't as quirky.

Completely stock ROM (flashable)?

I don't have a computer and I want to revert my phone back to out of the box stock rom. Original kernal, original everything. I can't use update, even though I completely unrooted. I have modified kernal and deodex. I want to find a flashable stock rom. It doesn't matter what version because I can use update with stock rom.

floykoe said:
I don't have a computer and I want to revert my phone back to out of the box stock rom. Original kernal, original everything. I can't use update, even though I completely unrooted. I have modified kernal and deodex. I want to find a flashable stock rom. It doesn't matter what version because I can use update with stock rom.
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Modified status won't let you OTA update.
But Sprint or Samsung Experience at Best Buy can flash that phone to latest stock. Just tell them the update fails and let them deal with it.
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I don't have either in my area. Oh, I will need a flashable bootloader and stock recover for the rom as well.

floykoe said:
I don't have either in my area. Oh, I will need a flashable bootloader and stock recover for the rom as well.
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I don't know how safe it is to use on our device. But you might have a look at FlashFire by Chainfire Here!
I've never used it myself but it's the predecessor of mobile odin.
Maybe someone else can weigh in on this!