Hi, I just got the Epic 4G Touch today. I plan to root the phone in about a month after playing with it on Stock Rom. there is an update that Sprint wants me to do. if I do it will I'll be ruin the chances to Root my phone later?.
The current update won't affect your ability to root. A future update might affect how easy it is to root. So this update is ok, but before future updates you should check back again.
sfhub said:
The current update won't affect your ability to root. A future update might affect how easy it is to root. So this update is ok, but before future updates you should check back again.
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Do you recomend that I wait before root or go ahead?. can I go back to the original rom if I wanted to?.
Thanks.
caguas56 said:
Do you recomend that I wait before root or go ahead?. can I go back to the original rom if I wanted to?.
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You can root before or afterwards, doesn't make a huge difference. I would recommend after you upgrade that you stick with the stock rom for a day or two to get a feel for how things are working on stock. Then when/if you install custom ROMs or make changes, you will have a baseline to compare to for figuring out what is causing issues you might encounter.
You can go back to the original ROM if you want. There are multiple ways to do it. You can use the EG30 ODIN tar in my signature. Alternatively if you want to root right now, use the Auto Root thread in my signature to root (Option A) and install EG30+CWM (Option C). From there, boot into CWM and make a CWM/nandroid backup of your system. That will be an exact image of what you are currently running, except for the modem. That way it is easier to go back to where you started. You can put the EG30 modem back using other means. The CWM/nandroid backup gets you 95% of the way there.
sfhub : thanks for all your help. this community has been great to me. thanks so much!!!
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Hi i currently have stock rom but have it rooted. Can someone provide me with a link to update my phone to the new update w/root or let me know what I need to do? Thanks!
Also I am not sure if I am running ext or rfs can some tell me how to figure that out?
A great place to start learning about modding the Epic are the QBKing77 videos on youtube. Just search for them or check out the links to his videos in most of the OPs in the development section. There are a ton of custom roms to play with right now, as well as the stock EI22 Gingerbread rom that came out OTA.
Thanks as I said though I am already rooted but unsure if its ext 4 or RFS I need help figuring that out and then I think I can just odin it from their.
I wish to stay on stock.
Might I suggest taking a look at the MostlyStockROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339579
You can even go to the "old links" and choose to download the deodexed only first release which is Stock + doedexed + root. Or choose one of the newer releases which has the fixes/features you want.
If you want EI22 Fully Stock then I believe you will need to unroot your existing install and install the OWA. I haven't seen a stock ODIN method but may have missed it.
I see. How do I unroot my phone?
odin back to stock ec05.
ok so then how do I root my phone after going back to stock updating then what?
Or couldn't I just do a factory reset then update?
newguy0804 said:
ok so then how do I root my phone after going back to stock updating then what?
Or couldn't I just do a factory reset then update?
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Once you odin back to stock ec05, it'll do the OTA update onto ei22. That's how I did my phone. Warning, once you odin back, you'll lose all your app and data.
I'm not worried about that I have titanium back up pro. their has got to be a easier way to do this though. Before All I had to do was Odin to the next update and that was it (eco5) now I have to odin back to stock remove root then update and then reroot...... thats a lot of work.
Is their a way to do this without un-rooting my phone?
Also can someone shoot me a link to a tutorial on going back to stock?
Also once root is removed I take it I would have to re root it. (this is ridiculous un root, update, reroot)
So what DO i do to re-root it?
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Im not worried about that I have titanium back up pro. their has got to be a easier way to do this though. Before All I had to do was Odin to the next update and that was it (eco5) now I have to odin then update and do it agian...... thats a lot of work.
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you can just download the file and install it using CWM but i'm 0 for 2 with this method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB956i_KEp4
Follow the video that babystewie posted. I've used it twice, both succeeding with no issues what so ever. It will allow you to update to GB with root, but will give you a stock version of GB. If you're interested in rooting GB as well, check the video description and there's some more videos.
There are a lot of mostly stock roms or even just a cwm flashable ei22 in the development section. You'll keep root and won't have to go through using odin so many times.
what do you mean a stock version of gingerbread? also I already have clockwork if that helps does it mean i have ti do anything different if i want to keep root?
There really is no completely stock Gingerbread ROMs because we don't have the tar file for the Odin flash. There are several ROMs in the Development thread (where the ROMs are) that are mostly stock. You can simply flash one of those, and if you want the EI22 modem, you can flash the EC05 to EI22 modem updater found in the stickies in development. I recommend you start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337453
I searched and didn't get exact answer to easy my mind.
If I want to upgrade to EL29 I am rooted on stock EK02, I need to unroot and then re-root correct?
I have read some are seeing better wifi strength with EL29.
So my questions are:
(1) Is it worth it to go to EL29?
(2) Is it a simple process to unroot, do the update, then root again with the EL29 root one click? Is is the same steps as EK02
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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I was about to respond.. but man sfhub, you are always on top of these type of posts! I've learned a lot from reading your posts. You're always very clear on instructions and don't assume everyone knows everything.
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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There's no sense in accepting OTA updates anymore if you are rooted. We get it here on xda faster than sprint pushes them out. It will just break root anyway (assuming you haven't modified any system files, delete bloatware, ect). If you modified some stuff, the update would fail. I wouldn't bother with it. The easiest way would be to ODIN the pre-rooted EL29 stock in sfhub's signature. It'll update the modem, rom and stuff to EL29. Use the 'no-data' version if you want to keep all your data intact. That's what I did, coming from a stock EK02, only rooted.
Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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If you use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature "modified ROM" is really just the addition of 3 files to the ROM to root it. Everything else is stock. It is exactly the same as if you ran Option A on your own ROM. It is just done for you. In fact, you could actually use Option B in Auto Root to unroot your phone and it would be 100% stock.
Same goes for the rooted EL29 OTA in my signature.
sfhub....Thanks for the tips. You showed me how to root a couple weeks ago and it has been great. I'm still cautious and didn't do many tweaks. I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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And this is why I love XDA.
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jkhawk said:
I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Yes, freezing is fine. Only uninstalling or modifying would cause the OTA to fail.
In the instructions for the EL29 OTA there will be an optional step to run the EK02->EL29 OTA Compliance Check. Just run that and it will tell you if anything is missing or changed. Takes around a minute. SHA1FAIL for kernel/zImage is expected. Any other MISSING or SHA1FAIL would need to be addressed.
All this time, whenever an OTA update is available, I have been unrooting my phone, returning back to stock, allowing the OTA update to run, then applying my root back. I have to think there's an easier way than that to allow my phone to update from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2. All I have is root and CWM, is there a stock 4.1.2 file that I am supposed to be flashing instead of my previous painstaking ways?
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All this time, whenever an OTA update is available, I have been unrooting my phone, returning back to stock, allowing the OTA update to run, then applying my root back. I have to think there's an easier way than that to allow my phone to update from 4.0.4 to 4.1.2. All I have is root and CWM, is there a stock 4.1.2 file that I am supposed to be flashing instead of my previous painstaking ways?
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Checkout the android development section. There are Odin and zip flashable stock rooted updates you can use which are ever so much easier than unrooting and rooting again.
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Checkout the android development section. There are Odin and zip flashable stock rooted updates you can use which are ever so much easier than unrooting and rooting again.
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Thanks.. just ran into this thread too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099
Gonna read around this evening
serstylz2 said:
Thanks.. just ran into this thread too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904099
Gonna read around this evening
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Just make sure that when you flash the LJ7 zip, you flash the following files IN ADDITION TO THE ROM
1. Team Epic Root from Recovery
2. Custom Recovery - download one of the recoveries found in the OP in billiard's thread. I'm a big fan of TWRP, but to each their own
If you just flash the zip, then all you're going to do is return your phone to stock with the stock recovery image.
Happy flashing!!!!
So I rooted my Note II but I left the stock ROM on the phone, and AT&T just pushed a big OTA update. What steps do I need to be able to install an OTA update now? After a bit of research, it seems I need to unroot? I've just never had to do this before because I usually just use custom ROMs, but on the Note I wanted to leave the stock ROM in place.
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So I rooted my Note II but I left the stock ROM on the phone, and AT&T just pushed a big OTA update. What steps do I need to be able to install an OTA update now? After a bit of research, it seems I need to unroot? I've just never had to do this before because I usually just use custom ROMs, but on the Note I wanted to leave the stock ROM in place.
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I used MrRobinsons' root injected ROM which was UCAMA4 (I think) and left the recovery alone, used the root access app that I bought to keep root. I did not remove any AT&T apps and was able to update to UCAMC3 without any problems. And the app that I bought kept my root access.
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I used MrRobinsons' root injected ROM which was UCAMA4 (I think) and left the recovery alone, used the root access app that I bought to keep root. I did not remove any AT&T apps and was able to update to UCAMC3 without any problems. And the app that I bought kept my root access.
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Well -ALL- I did was root, install clockwork recovery, and Super SU. So I'm wondering what I need to do to be able to install an OTA update now, because I currently cannot.
It is my understanding that you must leave the recovery stock. I have also read that you must leave the AT&T apps in there but I am not sure about that. So if you want the update go back to stock then update then change your recovery.
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It is my understanding that you must leave the recovery stock. I have also read that you must leave the AT&T apps in there but I am not sure about that. So if you want the update go back to stock then update then change your recovery.
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Well it's been a while since I've messed with this, so I just need to find instructions on how to return to stock.
Edit: Found a thread to remove root and factory reset, but my OTA update still won't install.
Edit2: Goes to the AT&T Updating progress screen and fails at about 25% and then reboots and starts up as normal.
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So I rooted my Note II but I left the stock ROM on the phone, and AT&T just pushed a big OTA update. What steps do I need to be able to install an OTA update now? After a bit of research, it seems I need to unroot? I've just never had to do this before because I usually just use custom ROMs, but on the Note I wanted to leave the stock ROM in place.
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I don't have a solution to your problem, but I am very curious which AT&T update you are referring to.
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I don't have a solution to your problem, but I am very curious which AT&T update you are referring to.
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Me too. Whatever it is it isn't a major upgrade. . .
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I don't have a solution to your problem, but I am very curious which AT&T update you are referring to.
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No idea, it's a ~65mb update that just came up yesterday for me. I was looking to reset my phone back to factory anyways lately, so I just decided to do it now on account of there being an update. Since it's not working anyways, I might just re-root and flash a custom ROM, but then I lose S-Pen functionality, but I don't use the pen much these days anyways.
The update has two possibilities...
Either it's the latest UCAMC3 update for UCAMA4.....or...
If updating from the UCAMA4 to C3....and the update has an interrupt...or errors....it "can" complete the update process and show a finished status...but will prompt the user again later and download the update again....minus the updater files placed to cache....because they already exist...
I've had this happen twice in so many months as I returned to stock for various reasons...
The file size is roughly 65 meg.....while the complete update is 68.86 meg..
Just take the update...as it's the UCAMC3 minus the updater...g
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Same problem here. I just made a thread asking on a fix. So I'll let u know if I get one. And I'll check back here to see if u do
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So the story is about 9 months ago my Galaxy note 4's USB port got messed up. I cannot charge my phone without using an external battery cradle, nor can I connect my phone to computer and sync/odin. I am stuck on a rooted BOB7 rom specifically the noterized rom stable 3. I know I cannot jump from BOB7 to COK1 etc... via flashing. I was wondering if the jump to marshmallow from lollipop would work.
Hmmm. let's see. I think you might be in a bad situation. You can't install ota updates if you're rooted and/or have a custom recovery. So those are the two biggest hurdles. You can use supersu to unroot so do that first. Next you will need to see if you can get a flashable stock OB7 recovery and flash it. Another thing that may be a problem is the debloated rom you're currently running. That may or may not cause problems with downloading and installing the ota's. I can make a flashable zip for you for the stock recovery but you first will need to download and flash my stock OB7 rom. Look for it here in the Sprint N4 forums.
Steps to success:
1. Download and flash stock rooted OB7 rom.
2. Use SuperSu app to unroot and uninstall supersu
3. Find a flashable stock OB7 recovery (I will provide if needed)
4. Do a factory reset by rebooting to the stock recovery
5. Once phone boots up, setup accounts, etc per usual and go to settings/system update and check for updates.
6. Let the update download and try to install it. You should have success. If it is successful then follow update instructions and once your phone is fully updated then you should check for updates again until you are fully updated to the latest MM 6.0 ota.
PM me if you need a flashable stock OB7 recovery or other help.
Good luck.
Thank you
Thank you very much tx_dbs_tx, you are a life saver! I have been stuck for the past 9 months.
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Hmmm. let's see. I think you might be in a bad situation. You can't install ota updates if you're rooted and/or have a custom recovery. So those are the two biggest hurdles. You can use supersu to unroot so do that first. Next you will need to see if you can get a flashable stock OB7 recovery and flash it. Another thing that may be a problem is the debloated rom you're currently running. That may or may not cause problems with downloading and installing the ota's. I can make a flashable zip for you for the stock recovery but you first will need to download and flash my stock OB7 rom. Look for it here in the Sprint N4 forums.
Steps to success:
1. Download and flash stock rooted OB7 rom.
2. Use SuperSu app to unroot and uninstall supersu
3. Find a flashable stock OB7 recovery (I will provide if needed)
4. Do a factory reset by rebooting to the stock recovery
5. Once phone boots up, setup accounts, etc per usual and go to settings/system update and check for updates.
6. Let the update download and try to install it. You should have success. If it is successful then follow update instructions and once your phone is fully updated then you should check for updates again until you are fully updated to the latest MM 6.0 ota.
PM me if you need a flashable stock OB7 recovery or other help.
Good luck.
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Is there a chance of doing the same on OG5? Using OBAR
So i am on bob7. I know a long time ago i did not uograde for a reason (dunno what that reason was now though).. so my question now is. . Is there a reason to upgrade or a reason NOT to upgrade to MM?
cheryl
Can someone confirm with me, that sending picture messages won't go through. Or is it just me?
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So i am on bob7. I know a long time ago i did not uograde for a reason (dunno what that reason was now though).. so my question now is. . Is there a reason to upgrade or a reason NOT to upgrade to MM?
cheryl
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Sorry for the late reply Cheryl. There is no reason not to update your software to Marshmallow 6.0. Typically updates bring improved performance and battery life as well as other software optimizations which are always better than previous software builds. You should backup your photo's etc before installing any update just in case. If you're one of those who doesn't like change and is content with your phone with it's current software then you don't have to update the software as long as there isn't a critical update that would prevent something from working on your phone unless you take the update. If everything works and your happy then you can leave it as is. But if you are interested in improved battery life and overall performance as well as new security features and policies of android, then by all means update your software the first chance you get. there are no drawbacks that i have noticed or read from any other users. Marshmallow is a go! :good:
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So i am on bob7. I know a long time ago i did not uograde for a reason (dunno what that reason was now though).. so my question now is. . Is there a reason to upgrade or a reason NOT to upgrade to MM?
cheryl
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OB7 is the newest bootloader that can be downgraded to kitkat.
on kitkat it's a lot easier to retrieve your MSL number, and at the time there was no xposed for Samsung lolly
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OB7 is the newest bootloader that can be downgraded to kitkat.
on kitkat it's a lot easier to retrieve your MSL number, and at the time there was no xposed for Samsung lolly
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So that was it. You cannot downgrade to kk? I am sure at the time that was important but i havnt had any interest in downgrading b4 so doubt i will now. I know bob7 was the most popular for roms at the time also but honestly i am past my flashaholic phase and just want to havebrhe best phone i can.
Is there hot spot and root for mm? Hotspot is probably the only thing i really care about and even that isn't as important these days
cheryl
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So that was it. You cannot downgrade to kk? I am sure at the time that was important but i havnt had any interest in downgrading b4 so doubt i will now. I know bob7 was the most popular for roms at the time also but honestly i am past my flashaholic phase and just want to havebrhe best phone i can.
Is there hot spot and root for mm? Hotspot is probably the only thing i really care about and even that isn't as important these days
cheryl
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if you don't have your MSL, and don't know where to find/how to get Galaxy Tools, and you still have a while left on contract, it wouldn't hurt to downgrade and grab your MSL first then jump straight to MM
Does anyone have a link to a stock OB7 recovery? All that I find are the odin variants.
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Does anyone have a link to a stock OB7 recovery? All that I find are the odin variants.
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I don't know how to extract it from a .tar but I know it can be acquired it like this:
1. full backup in TWRP
2. copy the backup to pc for safekeeping
3. odin full OB7 stock tar
4. without flashing TWRP, root using CF auto root*
5. install Flashify from Google Play
6. backup recovery
7. copy the backup to pc for uploading
*I don't know which version (if applicable) as I never use that method to root. sorry
obviously you wouldn't be able to do this yourself, you would need someone on the forum with OB7 bootloader to do this, and honestly, without knowing how to extract / find it in the.tar I still think that would take a lot less time and effort than this method lol