Hi developers,
I am a new member here, so please forgive me if I am asking dumb questions...
I recently read on the US Samsung website about the T-mobile version GS4 that it has 6 LTE bands on it: 1/2/4/5/7/17, which correspond to 2100 1900 1700 850 2600 700MHz respectively. Since T-mobile website did not specify what bands their GS4 will have, I assume it will be the same as the T-mobile version GS4 on the Samsung website.
Samsung website:
LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/17;
HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz;
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
T-mobile:
UMTS: Band I (2100);
UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);
Quad Band GSM;
LTE (????)
My questions are:
1. Since AT&T uses LTE bands 1/4/7/17, which are also covered in the Tmobile GS4. Technically, does that mean I can use Tmobile GS4 on AT&T WITH LTE network?
2. I will be traveling to Asia and the country I am going uses 2600MHz (Band 7) as its LTE band, does that also mean I can use LTE on their network too?
Thank you so much again honored developers!
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I'm trying to buy a GS3 from T-Mobile, but I need it to have AWS 1700/2100, because I'm on Wind Mobile in Canada. But looking on eBay it shows the GS3 to be GSM with no 1700 AWS frequencies. Although, GSM arena does show the following frequencies for the T-Mobile T999:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
But on TMobile's website it doesn't list 1700/2100 AWS, but it does show Band IV (AWS) which I believe is supposed to be 1700/2100 AWS. This is how it shows on the T-Mobile website:
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band V (850)
But on ALL eBay listings it doesn't list Band IV (AWS) or 1700/2100 AWS. It shows the following:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100
Can someone clarify if the T-Mobile version really has the 1700/2100 AWS frequencies? Appreciate all the help.
Yes. T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 bands for Their HSPA+ network. It should work fine for you.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
Babydoll25 said:
Yes. T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 bands for Their HSPA+ network. It should work fine for you.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
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I think the OP's point was that all eBay listings have the phone listed as: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100
If indeed all eBay listings show this, then those phones would not work on Wind. There is no 1700 in that frequency band description. So unless all these eBay sellers got the specs wrong (which would be a really big coincidence) or if indeed TMobile has more than one version, then those Tmobile USA branded phones will not work on Wind Mobile.
Update: I just took a quick look on eBay and all listings do indeed list the phone specs without the AWS 1700 spectrum. But Tmobile's website does show the UMTS Band IV listed in the GS3 specs. And Band IV is another name for AWS 1700/2100. But hey, if every eBay listing is not listing the AWS 1700 spectrum in the specs, then maybe T-Mobile does indeed have 2 different models.
They don't. (well they have 16gb and 32gb versions but, that's irrelevant to this discussion) Ebay sellers often cut and paste descriptions in their listings leaving people confused
T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 bands. I should know, not only do I have THAT version of the SGSIII....but it must have those bands to get HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network. That's one of the reasons AT&T and most, international versions of phones (One X tegra 3 version comes to mind), ONLY GET EDGE.
The other option is that the listing is for the international SGSIII which IS NOT compatible with T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
I'm live in Canada, so yea this is regarding Canadian Purchasing M919(T-Mobile S4).
intro：1. Bell HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
2. Rogers GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
3. Telus HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
4. Virgin HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
5. Koodo HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
6. Wind HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
7. Mobilicity HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
8. Seven-Eleven GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900
M919 T-Mobile Galaxy S4...
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung...mobile-unlocked-white-frost.html#.UYKbUCv07w4
Supports:
GENERAL2G NetworkGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G NetworkHSPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G NetworkLTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
Canadian Carriers, mainly two types.
A - Bell, Rogers, Telus, Virgin, Koodo and etc.
B - Wind and Mobilicity and etc.
2G Same for A and B.
3G/H+ 850/1900 for A and 1700/2100 for B
4G/LTE 1700/2100/2600 for A and N/a for B
M919 seems perfect for Canadian users..
ps. Seems M919 works perfect for ATT networks as well...
Can anyone confirm about this?
and is T-mobile come with a unlocked bootloader?
If this is true... T-mobile would definitely have more sells (maybe just for the phone...:fingers-crossed
You're right
niceppl said:
I'm live in Canada, so yea this is regarding Canadian Purchasing M919(T-Mobile S4).
intro：1. Bell HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
2. Rogers GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS), Band 7 (2600)
3. Telus HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
4. Virgin HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
5. Koodo HSPA 850/1900, LTE Band 4 (AWS)
6. Wind HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
7. Mobilicity HSPA (AWS or 1700/2100MHz)
8. Seven-Eleven GSM 850/1900, HSPA 850/1900
M919 T-Mobile Galaxy S4...
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung...mobile-unlocked-white-frost.html#.UYKbUCv07w4
Supports:
GENERAL2G NetworkGSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G NetworkHSPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G NetworkLTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
Canadian Carriers, mainly two types.
A - Bell, Rogers, Telus, Virgin, Koodo and etc.
B - Wind and Mobilicity and etc.
2G Same for A and B.
3G/H+ 850/1900 for A and 1700/2100 for B
4G/LTE 1700/2100/2600 for A and N/a for B
M919 seems perfect for Canadian users..
ps. Seems M919 works perfect for ATT networks as well...
Can anyone confirm about this?
and is T-mobile come with a unlocked bootloader?
If this is true... T-mobile would definitely have more sells (maybe just for the phone...:fingers-crossed
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I found this information at Samsung USA website, but I think the Canadian variant (M919V) will be the same. The M919 for T-Mobile has those frequencies:
LTE: Bands 700 / 850 / AWS 1700 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 ; HSPA+/UMTS: 850 / AWS 1700 / 1900 / 2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
The T-Mobile phone will work no problem. I've posted the numbers elsewhere and they all match up.
However, Koodo is selling it for $625 outright and the other companies for $700, so the T-Mobile one is not any cheaper. All Canadian versions have an unlocked bootloader.
band 7 2600 Supported by i337 and m919 band 7 used in Europe and Canada
The i337 (AT&T model) does the same LTE bands as the T-Mobile model. It only lacks AWS HSPA+ (3G), which the mod in this thread enables. I would have gotten the M919, but T-Mobile doesn't sell the 32GB model, plus AT&T variants are generally cheaper.
No model sold in the US (including the i9505G Google Edition) will do 800 or 2600 MHz. The i337M does though (Rogers Canada). Europe uses completely different LTE frequencies than the US.[/QUOTE] END QUOTE
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Worldwide LTE distribution chart via "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"
Freq #
Vodafone Germany Germany 800 20 FDD September 2010 [296][290]
Vodafone Germany Germany 2600 7 FDD August 2013 [297][298][290] Network covers centres of major cities.
M919 Specs ".samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs"
Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/AWS/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
I337 Specs "samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I337ZWAATT-specs"
Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Bands 1/4/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
The m919 according to this supports 2 and 5 bands that the i337 does not, i am new to this but as i said i picked this phone for international use aswell and would like to know the truth. But according to my information, Vodaphone in Germany uses to main bands 7 and 20. 7 Being the one that the US variant could receive.
since the I337 is basically the same in Canada, i looked up Bell
Bell :
Bell Canada 1700 4 FDD September 2011 [75][76]
Bell Canada 2600 7 FDD March 2012 [77] available in Kitchener, Waterloo, Cambridge and Toronto for additional bandwidth.
Both 4 and 7 are support by both devices, since 7 is on freq 2600mhz in Canada and is the same I337 as AtnT would it not be right to assume that the phone could get band 7 in europe? It is true that AtnT does not use those bands in the US but that does not mean the phone cannot support them. Furthermore i picked the M919 because of its native AWS support and the 30$ 5GB 4GLTE Tmobile Plan BOYA talk about savings..... I am curious to know if im correct, my research lends me to think I am. Europe uses mostly band 3 and 7! 7 Being the one you want!
Specs for Bells S4
bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung-Galaxy-S4/Specifications.tab
LTE compatibility
700/AWS/850/1900/2100/2600 MHz
HSPA/UMTS compatibility
850/1900/2100 MHz
GPRS/EDGE compatibility
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
They list there LTE in MHz but i believe 2600 IS band 7 which the US variants support. My confusion is that AWS is listed in there LTE part and in the US its under the HSPA part. A little clarification and first hand experience with internation use of US variant S4s would be great for poeple who have trouble getting good information from the other side of the world!!
Worst case tho im sure you can always get texting and calling and stick to Wi-Fi while travelling, but to us super-users, thats like going back to dial up.
Lol why are you copying and pasting my posts? As for your question, AWS is used for LTE on T-Mobile (and in very few areas by AT&T, which is why their devices also do AWS LTE). However, AT&T requests that AWS HSPA+ be disabled on their devices because they only use 850/1900 MHz for HSPA+ and it would only benefit those looking to switch to T-Mobile if they left that 1700 MHz band activated.
Hi,
I have a Verizon Note 4.
I want to know its LTE Frequencies.
I'm searching and I found out Different Carriers LTE Frequency ranges.
Name Frequency Band Notes
700MHz LTE (lower band) 710-716MHz 740-746MHz AT&T current 4G/LTE
700MHz LTE (higher band) 746-757MHz 776-787MHz Verizon current 4G/LTE
800MHz SMR/iDEN 806-866/869MHz 'Old' Nextel *Soon to be 1XRtt and LTE 4G
800MHz/850MHz Cellular 824-896MHz Traditional Cellular
GSM 900 (Europe/Asia) 890-960MHz Euro/Asian GSM
900 MHz SMR/iDEN 896-940MHz 'New' Nextel (but must have both Old and new units)
AWS (UMTS Band 4) 1700/2100 1710-1755, 2110-2155MHz New AWS Band (T-Mobile 3G/4G)
DCS 1800 (Europe/Asia) 1710-1785, 1805-1880MHz Euro/Asian DCS
1900MHz PCS 1850-1990MHz Traditional PCS
1900MHZ LTE 1850-1990MHz 'New' Sprint 4G/LTE
UMTS Band 1 1920-1980, 2110-2170MHz Euro/Asian
Xohm/WiMAX 2.5-2.7GHz Sprint/Clear 4G WiMAX * Sprint soon to launch LTE data on this spectrum
No I want to know, what band Radios Verizon Note 4 has, so that I can plan accordingly.
any help is highly appreciated.
P.S Verizon LTE Phones are Unlocked. I used SGS3 with a Lyca SIM. So I know it works, but I'm looking for LTE Band ranges in Note-4.
Thank You.
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
shanekm said:
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
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Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Working perfect for me here in Europe.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
shanekm said:
Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
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I answered this question earlier in your other post. Remember I own this phone on tmobile.
No one uses band 66 or 71 from what i've seen anywhere.
Tmobile uses band 4, 2 in some areas, or 12. At least from what I've seen.
You're overanalyzing things now.
I've tested the bands in the service menu.
Why don't you call t-mobile and ask them if they use a strange band like 66 in your area? I've never heard of that before.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does the LMG710EAW really support both bands 7 and 20? My research turned up that it supported band 7 (2600mhz) but not band 20 (800 mhz) or is this just due to them only listings bands from that region?
I ordered one without maybe doing my due diligence and Vodafone UK for 4G is bands 7 and 20
I have both LMG710EAW and LMG710ULM in hands, LMG710EAW doesn't seem to support B20, as in the parking area I get 4G on ULM but not with EAW.
But it's strange as today I had a look on the original packing of ULM, it's written with B20 support???
Also from LG site, FDD 4G Networks, without B20: 2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
https://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-LMG710EAW-128GB