[Q] Using Lumia 900 on GoPhone - Nokia Lumia 900

I have a quick question. Currently I have a crappy phone and I'm on a $2 unlimited talk, text, etc. plan. No data, they just charge by the mb or whatever and pull it from my balance.
Anyway, I bought a Nokia Lumia 900 off someone locally and the IMEI appears to be clean. Phone is apparently not blacklisted.
Can I cut my existing SIM card and put it in the Lumia 900? It may have been a contract phone, but the IMEI is clean. Also, will I be able to keep the $2 a day plan and just turn off cellular data? I only plan on doing this until I just get the smartphone plan. I don't want to go cutting up my sim card only to find out it's not going to function in the phone.
If anyone could provide me insight on this I'd deeply appreciate it.
Thank you.

cccodyyyy said:
I have a quick question. Currently I have a crappy phone and I'm on a $2 unlimited talk, text, etc. plan. No data, they just charge by the mb or whatever and pull it from my balance.
Anyway, I bought a Nokia Lumia 900 off someone locally and the IMEI appears to be clean. Phone is apparently not blacklisted.
Can I cut my existing SIM card and put it in the Lumia 900? It may have been a contract phone, but the IMEI is clean. Also, will I be able to keep the $2 a day plan and just turn off cellular data? I only plan on doing this until I just get the smartphone plan. I don't want to go cutting up my sim card only to find out it's not going to function in the phone.
If anyone could provide me insight on this I'd deeply appreciate it.
Thank you.
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As far as I know you shouldn't have any problems, I cut my sim and use it on the pay as you go plan with my Lumia 900 with no problems. You just have to make sure the sim you will be using has been in the old phone for 6 months as it will be locked to that phone and will not work in your new phone if its not been active in the old phone for that length of time, done been round n round with them about that..

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$15 Media Net on Touch Pro 2

Currently I have the $15 Media Net Unlimited on my WM phone. If I get a Tilt 2 from ebay will I still be able to continue unlimited internet at this rate?
Possibly. Your best bet would be to keep a non-touchscreen smartphone around in case you need to call up AT&T and complain if/when they tack on the PDA Unlimited.
I'm currently using my Tilt2 with the $20 Smartphone Connect plan, and it works just fine, but I haven't gone a full billing cycle yet.
If that EBay unit is unlocked, I think you can just slide your old SIM into it and you are good it go. I swap my SIM between my old RAZR and Tilt and Tilt2 all the time. My understanding is the SIM (Subscriber Identification Module) tells the tower who you are and not which phone you are using.
Hope that helps.
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If that EBay unit is unlocked, I think you can just slide your old SIM into it and you are good it go. I swap my SIM between my old RAZR and Tilt and Tilt2 all the time. My understanding is the SIM (Subscriber Identification Module) tells the tower who you are and not which phone you are using.
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Wrong, your IMEI is transmitted to the tower as well. If AT&T sold you your phone, they'll know what device it is. They have a database of ALL of the IMEI's of all AT&T branded phones. If you got an unlocked Touch Pro 2 (not Tilt 2), you could easily get away with the $15 plan. However, the second you try sticking your SIM into a Tilt 2, it will detect your phone as a Tilt 2.
i have a tilt2 and the 15$ plan... i also had the 15$ plan on my fuze, and tilt. i had the 10$ unlimited plan on my 8525, 8125, angel, and mpx220
never had any issues.
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If that EBay unit is unlocked, I think you can just slide your old SIM into it and you are good it go. I swap my SIM between my old RAZR and Tilt and Tilt2 all the time. My understanding is the SIM (Subscriber Identification Module) tells the tower who you are and not which phone you are using.
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If AT&T is the same as T-Mobile than that last statement may not be true. I'm on T-Mobile and I have a G1 and I tried to cheat the system and claim that I had lost my G1 so they could send me another one under my insurance (I know, it was wrong but at least I wasn't trying to get it FREE..I was going to pay the deductible of $130) but anyways, I put the "lost phone" claim in online (which is how T-Mo makes you put in claims now) then I had to call in a few hours later to finish the claim. (o yea, I forgot to mention that my dumb ass had taken out the SIM card and put it in an old Nokia phone I had laying around and still used the phone for a few hours after putting in the claim online before thinking maybe I should turn off the phone so they don't see "traffic" on the SIM card) The rep took some info from me then put me on hold telling me he had to check the "system." He came back on the phone and told me he couldn't put the claim in on the "G1" because at the time that I put the online claim in, the SIM card for my G1 was not in my G1 so yea..I think it is possible that they can tell what phone your SIM card is installed in.
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Wrong, your IMEI is transmitted to the tower as well. If AT&T sold you your phone, they'll know what device it is. They have a database of ALL of the IMEI's of all AT&T branded phones. If you got an unlocked Touch Pro 2 (not Tilt 2), you could easily get away with the $15 plan. However, the second you try sticking your SIM into a Tilt 2, it will detect your phone as a Tilt 2.
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what if I change the IMEI? I think i remember seeing a method to do so on this forum a long time ago
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what if I change the IMEI?
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That is illegal. I wouldn't try it.
I had been using an ebay purchased TYTN II, and had the $15 plan for almost 2 years. Never had a problem. With the purchase of my TILT 2 from ATT, they made me update the data plan.
They'll detect the Tilt 2 as your phone, but they haven't seemed to auto-update any plans that I've seen. I'm still on my Media Net plan after having the phone for a week.
Old data plans
I had a discussion with a customer service rep about this a few weeks ago. He told me explicitly that they are just looking to make sure that all new Tilt 2 users have a data plan and that people who already have a data plan (even if it's not the PDA plan) would be grandfathered in with their old plan. This is just one conversation with a customer service rep, so he may (not) have known what he was talking about. Anybody else confirm this information elsewhere?

one x on go phone plan?

im in a werid situation. the only phone i want is the htc one x. my plan expires the 26th of this month and i dont know what to do the phone comes out may 6th. heres the deal my dad is making me pay my line by myself so he will give the original family plan line to my little brother. so with his upgrade i intend to buy the one x and use the 50$ unlimited plan from their go phone options
will everything work ? the guy told me data wont work on 4g phones. and will a go phone sim even work on a smart phone ? i really want all this to work out because i need a nice screen and camera but do not want a contract. what other options should i look at because even atnt contracts minimum is close to 80 bucks !
are you talking about using an international one x? i decided on a prepaid plan and it works - but i bought an at&t branded micro-sim card from amazon. others are cutting down at&t sim cards. some are transferring micro-sims from unlocked iphones. there are people posting on the boards that the $50/month plan works for them - you just have to be careful about not drawing attention to yourself by your data usage. i am a minimal user so i went for the $2/day when used only plan (i am on personal wi-fi most of the time) and bought a data package.
you should also be aware that carriers like straight talk and net10 are offering $45-$50/month unlimited plans with purchase of their micro-sim cards. you can find out which network they run off in your area - they all use the towers of the larger phone companies.
check out some of the threads in the general forum as well as this one mentioning at&t. may help you. just be aware that having an international htc could mean no access to certain apps. it seems, for example, that google wallet will install but not open (at this time) on an unrooted international one x. could be a function of at&t, but i think it's google. found a way around that for google voice, but not for wallet. don't know if google wallet will install and open on an unrooted phone.
thanks for all the info. i was able to see h20 works in my area. im not buying the international version this is straight up the may 6th atnt released version. thats why im curious how am i going to keep the same number yet somehow use call sms and minimal data. i too am on wifi a lot but i def need 3g for work and gps. im just worried about getting a micro sim card and im hearing a lot of people getting cut off data on atnt once they found out their using a smart phone
also sucks to be buying an lte phone and no lte available lol
would this work ? what kind of speeds are on it
http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/bpd...ction=view&productVariantExtensionId=13837291
there are a couple of people on these boards who are longtime at&t users and know far more about the ins and outs. you might try searching them out in the at&t-related threads in the one lx forum, since you are planning to buy, i gather, an at&t phone. better to know ahead of time what you can and can't do. it may still be worth your while to check out straight talk and net10, however, since the last i looked they were advertising programs for at&t gsm phones that claim to be unlimited for $50/month. no lte, obviously, but also possibly no hassle over a separate data package, though they are making it clear they will pull your account if you go over their "unlimited" limit.
alright i searched around a lot and straight talk does use atnt towers so that may be my best bet i just need someone to help me confirm that if i buy the atnt one x should i let them install a sim card in it ? will it even matter? as soon as i get home i would take that phone out and put in my prepaid one. does atnt prepaid not let u use data anymore for 4g phones? lol so confusing
check out howard forums re at&t prepaid and also straight talk. i got into at&t recently. apparently there have been some policy changes that i wouldn't have noticed since i am not a long time user. one of them applies to smartphone data usage limitations - as in, you have to buy a data package if on one. there are a couple of people on these boards claiming they are using data without a data package on their smartphones and it's a matter of not triggering usage limitations. i have no way of knowing and it's confusing to me, too, so i'm just sticking with what i have till i run into a wall, then i may jump to net10 or straight talk also.

[Q] Imported 900 with $10 data? (AT&T)

Hey all,
Just wondering if anybody knows if I import a 900 from outside the US if I'll be able to keep my $10 unlimited (dumbphone) data plan with AT&T. I'm using that right now with an unlocked Xperia Arc and would like to keep it, so buying an AT&T LTE 900 is not an option. I was thinking about importing from Europe, or getting the Rogers from Canada. Anybody have an idea?
Thanks!
Not likely. The store reps told us when we didnt want data for our daughters phone that based on the IMEI they can tell what kind of phone it is and will automatically add a data plan to your account.
Hi, AT&T keep IMEI database only from the phone with AT&T or Cingular branded. If you use international phone which IMEI doesn't match AT&T database, they won't recognize your smartphone and you are free to use $10 unlimited data (as myself).
The only international phone I knew that won't be able to use $10 data plan is Xperia Arc S (LT28A), but Xperia Arc is fine.
hx4700 Killer said:
Not likely. The store reps told us when we didnt want data for our daughters phone that based on the IMEI they can tell what kind of phone it is and will automatically add a data plan to your account.
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This post is highly misleading. at&t only has certain IMEI codes in it's database. Those are typically for at&t and cingular branded phone. I do not know whether the IMEI for an overseas Lumia 900 is different enough that it won't be recognized.
arm_jstp said:
Hi, AT&T keep IMEI database only from the phone with AT&T or Cingular branded. If you use international phone which IMEI doesn't match AT&T database, they won't recognize your smartphone and you are free to use $10 unlimited data (as myself).
The only international phone I knew that won't be able to use $10 data plan is Xperia Arc S (LT28A), but Xperia Arc is fine.
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Not true. AT&T has been known to detect Nexus phones as well as recently they began blocking Nokia N9 users on PayGo. It really is a roll of the dice nowdays.
teamshao said:
Hey all,
Just wondering if anybody knows if I import a 900 from outside the US if I'll be able to keep my $10 unlimited (dumbphone) data plan with AT&T. I'm using that right now with an unlocked Xperia Arc and would like to keep it, so buying an AT&T LTE 900 is not an option. I was thinking about importing from Europe, or getting the Rogers from Canada. Anybody have an idea?
Thanks!
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If you want to take advantage of AT&T's LTE network then you're gonna have to upgrade your sim and your internet plan, which will void your grandfathered $10 unlimited plan.
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If you want to take advantage of AT&T's LTE network then you're gonna have to upgrade your sim and your internet plan, which will void your grandfathered $10 unlimited plan.
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European version of 900 does not support LTE
I can confirm AT&T will not detect my current Lumia 900 (international) as a smartphone and you can use $10 3G data plan.
AT&T detect my Nexus S (i9020A) which got from local BestBuy store as smart phone, though. Perhaps because Best Buy report my Nexus S to AT&T.

Nokia Lumia 900 Hack from ATT network

Hello All: I am sorry for making new thread but I was unable to find what I am looking for.
Is there any way that I can hack my Lomia 900 so that ATT does not know what I am using smart phone. I love Windows Phone OS but I hate paying ATT $30 for a data plan that I don't use.
Nothing you said made any sense, you sound 12. The $30 data was part of your contract with at&t, have fun with it for the two years. Even if you could 'mask' your phones identity, at&t would still charge you.
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Only way that would happen is if you had a sim card that somehow was hacked to send a IMEI number that doesn't match your smartphone
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chrisz5z said:
Only way that would happen is if you had a sim card that somehow was hacked to send a IMEI number that doesn't match your smartphone
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There are ways to change your phone's IMEI, not sure if its possible on WP7 though. It is also highly, HIGHLY, illegal.
If you didn't want to pay the $30 a month, buy the phone off-contract from like Amazon, Best Buy, or even AT&T and then get a pre-paid plan.
gangsta.mostwanted said:
Hello All: I am sorry for making new thread but I was unable to find what I am looking for.
Is there any way that I can hack my Lomia 900 so that ATT does not know what I am using smart phone. I love Windows Phone OS but I hate paying ATT $30 for a data plan that I don't use.
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If you are not using data over the cellular network, can't you just cancel the 'data' portion of your plan with AT&T? Or does the 'plan' come with the type of phone you bought?
Even if you could 'mask' the phone so that AT&T thought you were using a feature phone instead of a smart phone, you would still be charged the $30/mo, cuz that's what's attached to your account. It isn't the phone that ttells the network what to charge, it's what the account says the services attached to it are.
One legit way to play the game would be to turn in your AT&T Lumia and tell them you want to downgrade to a feature phone. Once that is complete and you have your replacement phone (make sure it has a micro-SIM card), buy an AT&T Lumia off eBay, then install the SIM into the bought phone. It should work just fine, except that because the SIM has been registered to a no-data account, you won't be able to get any data services.
drtolson said:
One legit way to play the game would be to turn in your AT&T Lumia and tell them you want to downgrade to a feature phone. Once that is complete and you have your replacement phone (make sure it has a micro-SIM card), buy an AT&T Lumia off eBay, then install the SIM into the bought phone. It should work just fine, except that because the SIM has been registered to a no-data account, you won't be able to get any data services.
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Actually that won't work, the phone registers on the network everytime it is used. So within a couple of days AT&T will know it is one of their smartphones and tag on a Smartphone data plan.
About the only way around paying for Smartphone data but still use one is to get an unbranded phone that is not recognized by the system. It will show up in the system as "Unknown Device"
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drtolson said:
If you are not using data over the cellular network, can't you just cancel the 'data' portion of your plan with AT&T? Or does the 'plan' come with the type of phone you bought?
Even if you could 'mask' the phone so that AT&T thought you were using a feature phone instead of a smart phone, you would still be charged the $30/mo, cuz that's what's attached to your account. It isn't the phone that ttells the network what to charge, it's what the account says the services attached to it are.
One legit way to play the game would be to turn in your AT&T Lumia and tell them you want to downgrade to a feature phone. Once that is complete and you have your replacement phone (make sure it has a micro-SIM card), buy an AT&T Lumia off eBay, then install the SIM into the bought phone. It should work just fine, except that because the SIM has been registered to a no-data account, you won't be able to get any data services.
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Actually that won't work at all since AT&T actively polices their network and will detect smartphone IMEI regardless of what IMEI was associated with that SIM previously. The only "legal" way to have a branded smartphone without data plan on AT&T is to have a pre-paid account. AT&T does not require smartphone data plans for PAYGo customers.
gangsta.mostwanted said:
Hello All: I am sorry for making new thread but I was unable to find what I am looking for.
Is there any way that I can hack my Lomia 900 so that ATT does not know what I am using smart phone. I love Windows Phone OS but I hate paying ATT $30 for a data plan that I don't use.
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at&t are not idiots. They know what they sold you. Changing the IMEI might work but it's not guaranteed. And I believe changing the IMEI is against the law. I doubt the forum owners will let anyone openly discuss that.
Why don't you get the $20 300mb plan if you don't use data? That is where I would start. In the future find out which smartphones are not detected by at&t and purchase one of them at full price if you want to avoid data charges or want to use the $10 unlimited plan. There are plenty of threads about that.
paid 399 for a new lumia 900 at at&t and threw it on net 10 50 unlimited everything plan. Nokia network setup app from marketplace to set apns and it's great. Getting 3-7 megs. for everyday phone usability and efficiency winmo is far superior than android. I did have to get a nexus 7 to retain android tho..
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paid 399 for a new lumia 900 at at&t and threw it on net 10 50 unlimited everything plan. Nokia network setup app from marketplace to set apns and it's great. Getting 3-7 megs. for everyday phone usability and efficiency winmo is far superior than android. I did have to get a nexus 7 to retain android tho..
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How did you get the Network Setup app to work? Mine just says "please wait while we find your network settings" but never finds anything.
halfevildruid said:
paid 399 for a new lumia 900 at at&t and threw it on net 10 50 unlimited everything plan. Nokia network setup app from marketplace to set apns and it's great. Getting 3-7 megs. for everyday phone usability and efficiency winmo is far superior than android. I did have to get a nexus 7 to retain android tho..
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So the L900 does work on other networks (that AT&T allows). Thanks for that.
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jimski said:
So the L900 does work on other networks (that AT&T allows). Thanks for that.
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That is because NET10 is a MVNO and uses AT&T network. So techinically your phone is still on AT&T network (but LTE probably won't work) but billed to a different provider. There are also couple other MVNOs use the same AT&T network. Lumia 900 from AT&T can work on all of them with the need to unlock.
You have to pay $30.00 a month like the rest of us, because the At&t system will detect, via your imei, that your using a smartphone device.
I believe it is possible to buy a Galaxy Nexus GSM version from Google and add it to an already active $15 feature phone data plan, and continue to pay for the feature phone service, even after placing the sim into your unlocked Galaxy Nexus. That is because at the time I purchased my nexus, it's imei was not registered as a smartphone device within AT&T's database, although it may have been updated since the last time I checked.
But in the end do you think anyone likes to pay for the data package?.... Of course not, so why would an exception be made for your situation? The argument will always win with a simple "don't use a smartphone then" and there's really nothing you can say to that.
FWIW, that's just my 2 cents. I hope I didn't offend anyone with my opinions.
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Well said, that type of "trick" is what forces the carrier to lock boot loaders throttle data and stuff like that because some abused the system.
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You CAN use a Smartphone on AT&T without paying the $30 fee; I've been doing it for years. It just cant be a model that AT&T sells and registers in their system. If there's a particular model you like on T-Mo or any other GSM carrier(Make sure it has AT&T Freq.) that AT&T does not use, their system may recognize the brand and model #, but it won't populate the automatic Data Plan like all AT&T Smart phones do.
Case in point, I now use a Nokia N8(Great phone for me). AT&T does not know what an N8 is(The best camera on any phone to date) and therefore can't charge me a data plan automatically. Since most of the Factory Direct Unbranded Nokia smarthones have their own GPS antenna, I can have all the maps, turn by turn directions, and POI's I need for free because it hits the GPS satellite directly, if it cant use the Cell sites. The trick is to make sure your DATA IS TURNED OFF on your phone. On my N8 you can set it to stay off in the settings menu. One slip up, and they'll charge you out the ying yang. However, I have always been able to call in and have it reversed. You can have them block ALL data, but then MMS won't work.
Now if your a Data kind of user, put up the $30 and use it. I myself, being an "Old School" Cellular guy in the Industry 19yrs, cant fathom paying for it when I don't need it. The WiFi on my N8 is really strong and there are plenty of places with free WiFi. In between them, I could care less; my GPS still works and I can wait. If you need to get your email right away, or know what Paris Hilton said today, pay the $30.
I work for AT&T, just so you guys know.
It doesnt matter where the phone came from. Let me give you an example of how it goes down. If you upgrade and get a Nokia Lumia 900, we'll go into the Equipment section of your account and change the SIM card number from your old to your new (basic phones and smartphones have two different types of SIM cards). When we do that, right next to the box to enter a new SIM card number is the box to enter a new IMEI number, to tell what kind of phone is on your account. When we do that and the phone is a smartphone, the next screen to pop up in our system is the Features screen and we can't bypass that screen without adding some sort of data package. The only way you can get around that is by simply NOT changing the IMEI in the account. If you bought that Lumia 900 at the discounted price, there's nothing you can do, really. You have to get a data plan.
The only way to get around the system is to get a smartphone (ANY smartphone) and ask your AT&T rep to just give you a new SIM card for it, but NOT to change the IMEI in your account from a basic phone. This way, the network will still find your phone, but the system wont recognize that you have a smartphone. Now you have a smartphone on your account without a data plan.
Another thing to consider is that AT&T offers a $50/month GoPhone plan with unlimited EVERYTHING and you can text other countries. Do the same process as above with that GoPhone plan and you'll save a **** ton of money in the long run. Hope this helps.
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Another thing to consider is that AT&T offers a $50/month GoPhone plan with unlimited EVERYTHING and you can text other countries. Do the same process as above with that GoPhone plan and you'll save a **** ton of money in the long run. Hope this helps.
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If you work for AT&T you should know that the GoPhone servive doesn't offer a data plan for smartphones such as the Lumia 900...
However, from what it sounds like this guy is trying to do what I have done. I have a GoPhone account and I am using a Lumia 900 on it and I didn't have to pay for any sort of data plan. I tried to, but I got a call later that day explaining that they couldn't process it so they just credited the money I paid for data to my account.
If you're stuck in contract, can't you just get a POS phone and switch SIM cards? You say that AT&T uses special SIM cards for smart phones, but they look the same to me, other than the fact that the plastic portion of the sim card has been basically cut in half to create something called "Micro Sims" --- Well, as it turns out, with a pair of scissors and a steady hand, anyone can turn their basic sim card into a micro sim card that will work inside the Lumia 900. The plastic portion of the sim is perfectly safe to cut all you want, just use the sim that came with the lumia 900 as a template... It's really easy, I did it with my T-Mobile SIM card after I unlocked my Lumia 900.
Even buying a basic phone with no data services, when you pop that sim card into a smartphone it automatically adds the cheapest data plan to that number.
I got around this a few years ago.
Using a basic phone call and say you want to have data services blocked. Back then it was free but now I think they want to add parental controls and charge you an extra 5 bucks a month. But call and have data services blocked on that number then when all goes through put your sim into the smartphone.
It worked for me. Normally when you do that you get a text from AT&T telling you that they upgraded your data plan blah blah. If you don't get the text I'd assume all is well.
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So the L900 does work on other networks (that AT&T allows). Thanks for that.
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what is your apn settings I got an ATT lumia 900 and cant figure out the right apn settings

Using a free data sim from t-mobile for calls

I had a t-mobile 200 mb free data plan activated on a kindle hdx7 about a year ago. 2 months later I got an IpadAir2 and gave the kindle to my daughter and took out the t-mobile free data sim and she put in an att sim to use the data share family plan for $10. She is using most of the 20 gb bucket we have per month between her phone and tablet.
I activated a free sim from t-mobile for my ipad air2 and put the original free sim from the kindle on ice for a while. Tonite I found it and for the heck of it put it in the fire phone to see if the data plan would work in the phone. And it did! I chose the t-mo lte apn and rebooted the phone. And data started flowing. I was able to sign into Ooma mobile and make a successful call over data. The same with Time Warner's Phone2Go app. Was also able to make a successful call over data with this one. The only thing not working is using text messaging. It just won't work with the phone number assigned to the data sim Google voice worked too. Texting works thru google but mms does not work. The clarity of voice was best with Phone2Go, followed by Google, then Ooma. I heard well on all three, but was fuzzy and staticy to the receiver.
So if any of you have those free data sims from t-mo laying around, they will work on the fire phone for app calling. And anything else you want to use the data on.
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Thanks, sashusmom. I tried this but I can't get it working. I can get to the TMO page where it tells me how much data I have remaining but when I try to browse anywhere else it takes me to the "upsell" URL to activate my device, get more data etc. I tried both unrooted and rooted and neither works. Another thought: I have a pre-paid TMO account that is tied to my unlimited 200MB SIM; is your unlimited TMO on a post-paid account, maybe?
I did some further research to see how this works and here is what I found:
Yes, you do need a post-paid T-Mobile account in order to have a SIM card that you can move from one device to another. Prepaid accounts with the 200 MB data plan, those SIM cards are married to the tablet they are activated on. Furthermore, if you do go the post-paid route in order to get this working, please note that you'll need a voice line on your post-paid account in order to get the 200 MB truly free; they give you a $10 bill credit every month as long as you have at least one voice line on the account. If you only have a data device, you will be charged $10 per month and you will not be eligible for the bill credit.
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I did some further research to see how this works and here is what I found:
Yes, you do need a post-paid T-Mobile account in order to have a SIM card that you can move from one device to another. Prepaid accounts with the 200 MB data plan, those SIM cards are married to the tablet they are activated on. Furthermore, if you do go the post-paid route in order to get this working, please note that you'll need a voice line on your post-paid account in order to get the 200 MB truly free; they give you a $10 bill credit every month as long as you have at least one voice line on the account. If you only have a data device, you will be charged $10 per month and you will not be eligible for the bill credit.
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Everything I wrote in the opening post is true for me. Please note that the apn needs to be T-Mobile US LTE/fast.t-mobile.com I just checked and data is still flowing. It is a prepaid data sim also.
Thanks for your research, but apparently it doesn't apply to me. I don't have a post paid account. That sim that was initially activated on my kindle fire hdx7 for the free data for tablets with 200mb and is working on my fire phone- I know it is the same sim cause I marked it with an F designating free. So it is not married to the tablet. It is working on my firephone. It is a data only sim so voice and texting does not work.
Also it probably does not work in a tmobile device. My kindle was not a tmobile device and initially was not even officially supported for the free data for life plan. But it worked. The firephone is also not a tmobile device.
Another thought for you Dustbinge- does your free data sim- 200 mb for life- have any of the 200mb left on it? If not it will send you to the upsell page. On prepaid you can add more data when you use up the 200 free mb.
ok--thanks for the update. I envy that yours is working because I want the flexibility to use Waze in either the Fire Phone or my Samsung Tablet. In any case, yes, I just started a new monthly cycle and I have about 163MB left. I tried one more time and verified that I'm using the correct APN but I still get the same result. My prepaid SIM was indeed activated in a T-Mobile tablet so there's that. And mine was only done about a month ago so maybe something has changed over the last year.
Sorry to hear it I must be flying under their radar with 2 non t-mo devices. Maybe other peeps could try it and post. It would make it clear then that my case is different. It will be really nice since my main sim is att in an iphone.
If you're adventurous, ebay is selling simple mobile preloaded sims for about $5 each. It has 1 or 2 gigs of data and unl. talk and text. I got 6 of them when they were
$1/each and I have 1 left. They were all activated without a hitch following the directions enclosed with the sims. I would buy more but am too cheap to pay the going rate for them. Maybe $5/month would be worth it to you. You can always buy 1 just to see if it will be good for you. Simple runs on t-mobile.
Sashusmom, thanks for the tip on simple mobile--will def look into that. Another thought on the prepaid TMO SIM working on your Fire phone and not mine: could it be related to our ROM setups? I am stock rooted. What ROM if any are you running and are you using any special build prop strings?
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Sashusmom, thanks for the tip on simple mobile--will def look into that. Another thought on the prepaid TMO SIM working on your Fire phone and not mine: could it be related to our ROM setups? I am stock rooted. What ROM if any are you running and are you using any special build prop strings?
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I'm running CM-11 for safestrap by ggow. Rooted, no build prop changes. I never used safestrap before but it was very easy. I tend to re-read stuff 3-4 times before I attempt new things and read every post before making any rom changes. Maybe overly cautious, but I never bricked.
I installed safestrap and flashed CM11 for safestrap to try to match your environment. I also never used safestrap before and the good news is that it was surprisingly easy. The bad news is that it had no impact on my TMO prepaid card working. Thanks again for your suggestions.
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I installed safestrap and flashed CM11 for safestrap to try to match your environment. I also never used safestrap before and the good news is that it was surprisingly easy. The bad news is that it had no impact on my TMO prepaid card working. Thanks again for your suggestions.
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Your very welcome and I'm sorry it was a bust for you Let me know how you like CM11.
I am about to do similar task. I have an old Verizon RazrHD with sim slot. Ordered a TMO phone sim (not tablet). It will arrive this Thrusday. I hope it will work. I don't think build prop will help because TMO has a thread about adding new devices to TMO DB, they use IMEI.

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