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HTC Desire Development

So, for some reason i was just lurking around the Desire forums... they're seriously hurting, they are way behind in terms of development, compared to the Nexus One. Does anybody know why this might be? Since they're basically the same phone, why isn't the Desire (so to speak) neck and neck with the Nexi?
I know that the Nexus One is like the biggest badass of all the phones, and quite frankly i don't know why i'm even asking this, but i'm curious.

Because we have Cyanogen, Kmobs and many other amazing devs

It was the same if you compared the hero with the G1 and Mytouch. I think it's because of the framework of HTC and the HTC phones aren't that open as the nexus. this is why i like my Nexus
I owned a Hero and damn the development on the OS was pathetic the only one who really worked on Hero was Paul (modaco) the others did there best to. but it was nothing i even couldn't put CM on Hero. When the 2.1 came out it was ported to G1 but the hero had to wait, wait for a long time. there where some 2.1 releases for the hero but never worked 100%.

zachthemaster said:
So, for some reason i was just lurking around the Desire forums... they're seriously hurting, they are way behind in terms of development, compared to the Nexus One. Does anybody know why this might be? Since they're basically the same phone, why isn't the Desire (so to speak) neck and neck with the Nexi?
I know that the Nexus One is like the biggest badass of all the phones, and quite frankly i don't know why i'm even asking this, but i'm curious.
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Nexarse one is a half decent phone, wouldn't say it was neck and neck with the superior desire but its ok considering they are similar. The problem is htc. I suspect a deal has been struck between google and htc giving the google phone a slight priority in terms of software release. Either way it don't matter massivley, because if people want froyo on there desire, they can get it. The same as all those nexus one users who wanted sense on there handsets,(but obviously on a lesser phone
By the way, hows that trackball holding out?

Dunbad said:
Nexarse one is a half decent phone, wouldn't say it was neck and neck with the superior desire but its ok considering they are similar.
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What are you, five? "Nexarse" is sure the height of witticism, just like "windoze" and "micro$oft." Sorry, boy, but the two phones are nearly identical except yours doesn't have a noise-canceling mic. Your fanboyism is wasted; it's like stamping your foot and whining that the HTC Hero is better than the Eris when the two are actually the same phone, with identical internals.
The same as all those nexus one users who wanted sense on there handsets,(but obviously on a lesser phone
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An ex-Apple fan by any chance? Your attitude's similar. And I've yet to hear of anyone's trackball falling out, ahaha. "Lesser"? Paul O'Brien recommends a Nexus over a Desire--he's got both--and I'll take his (much more knowledgeable) opinion over an immature fantard's any time.

I personally don't think development is going that badly, you have to remember the nexus one has 4 months over the release of the desire and it not being a world wide release doesn't help, hopefully things will pick up more when it gets official releases in the USA

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So... five?
Btw, the OP didn't mean it as sarcasm because this thread was originally posted to the Nexus One forums. Durrrrr.

Thread cleaned, show respect to other members rules are there to be followed.
Back on topic.

Easy, the nexus one isn't as locked down as the desire. And because a lot more people have a nexus one.
Sendt with Swype via tapatalk on my Desire.

I would have bought the nexus if it had been available because of the reasons above.
But it wasn't in Holland until now, I really do like Sense and all the fluff it adds, i'm not particularly bothered about banging a Rom onto a new device as far as i can tell it's not broken.

So only my posts get deleted, ok.
Let me try again in a more respectful and polite manner.
My initial response was to what I ASSUMED was abit of a tongue in cheek question. It got a tongue in cheek response together with my answer. It was simple sarcasm. It appears however the op posted this on the nexus forum and it was moved by moderators. The op probably did not even realize it would end up here. My response was wrong to the Equally disrespectful response that I got and apologize to anyone who saw it.

i dont know why dunbad is in trouble here for posting something that was intended to be funny
since when is it that if you post a joke you get some pompous person sitting in front of his computer with a thesaurus, dictating some sort of speech against the inhumanity of a sense of humour?
geez some people really need to lighten up
nexus one and htc desire, pretty much identical hardware wise, the nexus one has a noise cancelling mic, the htc desire has a bit more ram
nexus one runs stock android meaning its highly customizable
htc desire has htc sense which works really well, and is soon to get froyo like the nexus one
the development in the nexus one forums is SO great because youre all trying to get sense on your phones, lets face it it just takes one look at your development section to see that, what does the htc desire ACTUALLY need developed? its already got root, we CAN put whatever we want on, most people dont because it works perfect already. Froyo's readily available from the devs here, IF we want, and anyway we're getting it officially in a few days, so in all honestly, software and development wise, the htc desire wins hands down
easy as that

The nexi is great but I've noticed an issue with the "nexi." That doesn't seem to effect the desire. If you post a thread on xda nexi forum, the post somehow disappears, somehow reappears elsewhere and a little one liner appears in the subject field that says "MOVED". Its really odd. It happens loads. Go check out there general forums. Software maybe? Hardware? A bug perhaps? Don't know but either way the desire doesn't seem anywhere near as badly "effected."
People are saying this or that's better about either phone, but at the end of the day I wish I'd had got a nexi, in these difficult financial times I could have saved some money.
But anyway, I thank cgrec, but I don't see froyo coming to the desire officially anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm convinced that this has everything to do with handshakes in smoke filled backrooms between google and htc, froyo will be a few months away yet.i hope I'm wrong.

[Off Topic Lounge] A place for fellow HTC Desire users to hang out

I've decided that as the Desire has such a big fanbase and the forum is so busy, that I'd trial an Off Topic lounge.
This is the place to post all things random and not support related.
There are a few ground rules, nothing too boring, but we do need them!
The most important rule is, follow the Forum Rules!!
Keep it clean, and don't flame other users.
[*]Do Not use this thread to boost your post count so you can post in Development
Most of all, have some fun
As this is a trial if you have any issues or problems here, please PM me.

awesomeness
cool idea...this can be a nice place to boast how awesome our rom is

I'm currently using a modified version of Leedroid 2.4.1.
This is a Data++ version with CM7 hboot built by Ed Roid (member of Frandroid), I must admit it is very fast and reliable.

Wow i love this forum its the complete opposite to what i'm used to. Normally i would expect a thread to be derailed withing a page, here however try and go off topic here and it takes less than two posts to be back on topic.

Spin Dr Wolf said:
Wow i love this forum its the complete opposite to what i'm used to. Normally i would expect a thread to be derailed withing a page, here however try and go off topic here and it takes less than two posts to be back on topic.
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Oh believe me, threads here can be derailed in seconds and forever if they get the chance. Lol.
It has probably died down a bit in the Desire forums now, but I remember a time a post would have been reported, and within 15 minutes there were about 30 replies to the problem post
I loved my Desire when I had it. I actually miss it now

cool idea... using desire since few month, i m so impressed by android just got a bargain with xperia mini pro for my son... running stock andro 2.1... actually don't know much about it but he dosen't want i touch it
i know this is not desire supported whilst it's about android os
tks Rolfd

Custom Rom
Heya, I just instaled my 1st custom rom . I've always been rooted but i used the stock rom. Today i got bored and tried robocik's RCMix on my Desire. Working wonderful! I'm so happy i did it

Had my desire for just over a month, tried about 5 or 6 different ROMs, sticking with CM7, usually the latest nightly build, havent s-offed, dont really see the advantage?? Running CM7 nightly 64, with a 512MB ext3 partition sd-ext, I LOVE MY DESIRE!

Nice Idea, I am swinging between Roms Almost on Daily basis and then i keep myself busy restoring everything.
I am also planning to release my own custom ROM, lets see when i will be able to do that (Still is Alpha phase)

Had my desire about a year now and running Oxygen 2.1.2
Just had a look round at the new phones available and I've got to say there's nothing really around to make me want to upgrade yet (maybe the Samsung Galaxy 2S)
Anybody bored with their desire and waiting for a new phone on the way?

I would love to help someone make a ROM but I have no idea where to start or what I need to do? Any help? Thanks
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

I had a strange dream last night that in the future we all lived underground, but people kept the nicer part of the world a secret from us(me), but eventually some guard-type guy led me to an old workshop to get water and I found both of my cats there - after feeding them popcorn and making sure they were safe I found some sort of board and found a massive tube system that the nicer parts in levels above used as an entertainment place - with arcades and stuff in it...
weirdness!

Any dream interepters on the forum ?

Spin Dr Wolf said:
Any dream interepters on the forum ?
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Or psychiatrists? lol

It could be that there is a girl/woman in your life that you do not really trust.
Or you can try to stop smoking a certain herb before going to bed

I've been using htc desire for a year now, its a cool phone but iphone still rocks..

Mikkel D. Hansen said:
I've been using htc desire for a year now, its a cool phone but iphone still rocks..
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BANNED!! And I propose that the next person that posts anything to do with actual Desire/ROM/Dev discussion shall be whipped with a wet lettuce leaf
I, however made the mistake of telling this chick that I have been seeing on a friends basis that I am crazy about her the other day...it's actually waaaay more than friends, and she knows it, but it's complicated. We spend a lot of time together, she stays over most weekends, we usually shower together, we kiss, cuddle, go out to dinner, shopping and the whole kaboodle...we are not "sleeping together" though...she is not ready for proper committment, she tells me...or am I expecting too much??
I am 37 years old, and I feel like a love sick pimple faced child. Maybe it is I that needs whipping with the wet lettuce leaf...
I love this forum, I feel better already
And let the flaming commence

@777ace and how are things after you said that...?
I took my cat out to the car to go to the vets and then went back to lock the front door and he decided that was a good time to go to the toilet.... causing me to take him back inside - clean up and then be late for the vet (he's fine though, just getting over a bad illness-type-thing)

Lol, I have two cats also! I have been lucky in that they've not (yet) gotten really sick though...the bills for nuetering and worm treatments etc were horrendous enough! Any vets here??
As to my problem...everything is cool. I tend to over analyse the crap out of everything and probably miss the forest for the trees most of the time. Thinking over the whole situation, if she didn't feel the same way I do, she probably wouldn't do all of those things with me and make time in her life for me, so I guess I just gotta play it cool and take it real slow....

Good going, as long as things are well now!
Last nights strange dream was I was driving down a really steep hill (and it had a mcdonalds halfway down for some reason), and saw some woman pushing her car up the hill near the McDs - she said she was fine, got that far and I asked why she wasnt calling someone to get it repaired, she said her boyf coudl fix it at the top of the hill, so I stopped and locked up my car and helped her push it to the top - right near the top there was a flood of water that rushed down and pushed the car back a bit - but we carried on and got it to the top of the hill where she said she was going to see her boyf - however, he happened to open the door and be like 'OMG what are you doing here?' then you heard his wife in the background coming to see what's going on... and I just up and left her there sorting out her own mess.
what's the moral of that story?

Yeah people, we are right back into the game

Huge thanks to the admins for listening to our voices!
Let's hope for a stronger development for our WFS from now on.
Here we come steaming from behind!

What?! Why are you doing it?

Will never be undone. The scene will die even quicker now it is not on the main forum page.

Well, this is just not justified. The original HTC Wildfire keeps its position on the "Promised Land" while its successor is trashed here?! Other than that I can call some more devices which are less "popular" than Wildfire S but they still get to keep their position on the front page.
The main outcome is that the Wildfire S Android development will drop vigorously. Not that it's something special right now. XDA doomed our phone to development mediocrity and there is nothing we can do about it!

imlgl said:
Will never be undone. The scene will die even quicker now it is not on the main forum page.
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Always the pessimist, but I've gotta admit, it's not going anywhere at all.

I don't understand why.
If the devs work together, the job will be done faster.

I guess the begging letter didn't help much.
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This nonsense is stupid.

Calm down guys.
Here is a list with xtc clip owners: Click
Check the country and pm the person, if you want s-off!
I will be s-off with xtc clip in two weeks
Then I can test my own hensemods first
Hit thanks when I helped!

That's not good news. Grey clouds is the only person who can give us good news right about now..

This blows
Read title ^

Without wanting to offend mods or admins, I think that the decision to put a 8-9 month old phone on the "Legacy & Low Activity Devices" area is an enormous disrespect to us (I'm being SOFT), owner of such devices.
It's something that seems to be made without even thinking about the consequences.
There are many other devices that should be dead on the main forum page for ages, but still have their position of "glory" there.
Those devices were launched two or more years ago, without any future upgrade in sight. Do you think this is rational? Honestly! I don't think so.
I think that now, even more than before devs should stick together and show that the Wildfire S is NOT a legacy device and much less a low activity device.
I didn't come to this forum for 2 or 3 days due to a very tight work schedule and now I saw this... I am shocked and disappointed with XDA.
My post has nothing to do with the existence of XTC-Clips and the possibility of rooting the WFS almost all around the world. I think that matter is offtopic.
It's just plain nonsense to "archive" a phone with a recent RUU update, with development going on, with users posting every single day, with users needing support and with HTC still having plans for this phone.
It's like HTC saying:"Your phone is 8 months old but we decided that it isn't supported anymore. Don't ask why. We don't care about you."
Sorry for my angry post. Once again I want to say that I don't intend to disrespect who manages this forums. I appreciate your work but this action is IMHO 1000 steps backwards for a respectable community of WFS owners.
Please, pretty please with sugar on top, consider undoing this.
Like other user said, you still have the "old" Wildfire on the main forums and already "deleted" the successor. Where is the logic?!
Please don't make the HTC Wildfire S be invisible. It's like you hate this phone and intentionally want it do die early. That's not fair. I would call it poor judgement but I'm afraid of hurting your feelings. I'm not here for that.
I like to help as much as I can. I have a hard job so my time isn't that much... but still I've shown that if people need my help, I try to be responsive.
Many people upgraded their WFS with my help. I don't want to be pretentious or have credit. I just expect this behavior from XDA, that usaully is a good and reliable source of information.
My most honest respect!

I totally agree with you miguelca.
WFS should be on top of the XDA page because he is still unlokcable.
This phone should be the priority of the community

I agree. The WFS is a great phone. Please put it back
Sent from my %s running Jinkaratu's XE ROM

It's not about the S-Off. In my country - Bulgaria, I can easily go and pay about 15 euros for that service. No problem. What really bothers me is that our phone is going to sink in oblivion before it has been given the chance to grow and develop!
I'm sorry XDA, but this is freakin' unjust and unacceptable!
miguelca, kudos for your elaborate opinion!

Where is the moderator of this section?Pls respond couse this is nonsence...

I can't believe.
It's not 10 years old, it's only few months old!!!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using XDA App

You get the feeling HTC is afraid of this low cost phone and wish they hadn't released it?
Now XDA joins the sweep it under the table bandwagon...What next. Someone comes in the middle of the night and steals it off my desk and "disappears" it.

wildfire on main page and WILDFIRE S on Legacy & Low Activity Devices, u must be kidding adm.....

I'm thinking HTC has asked or paid for our WFS to be pushed aside, maybe because they are finished developing for it and have no plans on unlocking bootloader. If so someone (XDA) has sold us out.

[Q] HTC One X vs SGS3

Hi,
I do know that's more or less an old topic but well...I have a big dilemma so maybe you should help me out.
I'm owning a SGS3 int. and well I'm more or less fine with it; I choosed it over HOX mainly because of chance to change battery and winner cpu/ram benchmark (with 15/20% more in every damn test) and a bigger screen (not much but better then nothing).
The dilemma started 1 week ago when a friend of mine bought the HOX and well...the screen seems really so much better in HOX.
At the same time, despite few games lag on HOX, the Tegra has some optimized game for it giving some cool effect.
I mainly use the phone to watch movie and play videogames so, in some way, HOX win for me (at least just watching it) so I was thinking to chance my SGS3 for an HOX but I wanted to ear your opinion, hoping that will not start flame or fan boy reply.
I am really interested in opnions of who maybe tried both or who maybe changed his SGS3 for the HOX (like I'll probably do asap).
Thanks,
Max

m.zambonelli said:
Hi,
I do know that's more or less an old topic but well...I have a big dilemma so maybe you should help me out.
I'm owning a SGS3 int. and well I'm more or less fine with it; I choosed it over HOX mainly because of chance to change battery and winner cpu/ram benchmark (with 15/20% more in every damn test) and a bigger screen (not much but better then nothing).
The dilemma started 1 week ago when a friend of mine bought the HOX and well...the screen seems really so much better in HOX.
At the same time, despite few games lag on HOX, the Tegra has some optimized game for it giving some cool effect.
I mainly use the phone to watch movie and play videogames so, in some way, HOX win for me (at least just watching it) so I was thinking to chance my SGS3 for an HOX but I wanted to ear your opinion, hoping that will not start flame or fan boy reply.
I am really interested in opnions of who maybe tried both or who maybe changed his SGS3 for the HOX (like I'll probably do asap).
Thanks,
Max
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There have already been similar threads like this one you should really go searching for them. Cause frankly everyone on this forum is sick of it.

tons of info in the One X mega information thread
and shadehh is right please enough with these comparison threads, they are against XDA rules
few moments now and this thread will be flooded by fools
to mods: we need a sticky please saying comparison threads are not allowed

You have a SGS3 so you already know its strengths and weaknesses. Your friend has a One X so you can figure out what its strengths and weaknesses are specific to the way you'll use it. Like others just said, there are tons of threads discussing the two phones. That should be more than enough for you to make an informed decision. Personally, I don't get "what should I buy?" threads. Everyone uses their phones differently and has different needs and criteria. Do some research and buy what you think is best. That seems more logical than making a decision based on the advice of total strangers.

well i had an amoled screen before and i got to tell u that i prefer the LCD. i am more with ur opinion but that wouldnt make me change the s3 is the battery .it is something that some times u want to have more than anything else.thats the only minus in hox the battery everything else i think are the same with s3

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Actually we need some good discussion thread with protagonists antagonists for each phone where every one can say what it is they like about their phone (or disliked on the other).
Anyway I bought the HOX before the SGS3 came out but before the SGS3 came out I already knew Samsung would blow HTC away with its hardware specs but I own a SGS2 and a Desire so I know a bit about the difference in user experience and the whole time I used the SGS2 I was disappointed because i missed all those little Sense touches. Sense just is the best mobile user experience period, nothing comes close in software polishedness (not "even" ios), everything just works and everything is integrated into each other; eg. open the gallery app and see the galleries from your friends there, or browse contacts and go directly to their galleries, the htc keyboard is pretty damn good; I bought swiftkey x when using the sgs2 but I am using just the default keyboard; duplicate contacts are automatically merged in sense; and there is so, so much more; really there is only one touchwiz feature I miss in Sense and that's the smart alarm function....
If your thing is showing of quadrant scores though don't get the hox

hamdir said:
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The rules sticky already says that. It's just that no-one ever reads it.

SGS3 Sucks . If you are not a fanboy sell it and get HOX . I have used both.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

godutch said:
Actually we need some good discussion thread with protagonists antagonists for each phone where every one can say what it is they like about their phone (or disliked on the other).
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But hasn't this been done? To death? It's all just opinion and there's rarely agreement amongst owners better yet any type of common ground that would hold up in a comparison. Name one feature of the SGS3 or One X that doesn't already have commentary running on it. I don't know whether I'm a protagonist or antagonist (maybe I'm both?) but I'm tired of the circular debates that lead nowhere, don’t change anyone's opinion, and consistently end with the thread being locked. Yesterday's One X vs. SGS3 comparison thread covered race and sexual orientation. Do you really want to go there again?
There’s already a 160 page SGS3 vs. One X comparison thread in the i9300 forum. Why doesn’t everyone use that as the “official” comparison thread? I guarantee you anything anyone wants to discuss has been covered at least a dozen times there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652250

because for each and everyone it's a different discussion, everyone has their own things they think are important and their own things they think are less important

Thread closed.
Comparison thread are finish.

[Q] General Thoughts on the One M8.. Considering returning to Dev

Hi All
some of you know me some of you don't, looking for some general feedback and feelings around the One M8 as a device overall from its xda user group.
The plan, providing I manage to get my hands on one, is to get back into Development and resurrect LeeDrOiD Roms.
It's been a while!
Cheers

It's a great device, certainly a worthy successor to the m7, if you've had any time with that.
screen is gorgeous (if not for lacking a little bit of space due to the on screen buttons)
the camera effects are a treat and fun to play with. For the most part they work pretty well. 4 megapixels is a shortcoming though, regardless of the ultra pixel size
gestures work (they are take it or leave it though, if you use them you love them, if you don't you can do without them)
BoomSound kicks and is an improvement over thevbeats audio sound profile
OS is extremely quick no lag whatsoever even on bloated stock roms
touch screen is extremely sensitive (maybe a touch too sensitive)
ample built in storage + sdcard = [emoji106]
BlinkFeed much improved over initial versions
There's definitely more I could say but I'm sure it's all stuff you've read in reviews, so I will just give my personal opinion: It's friggin awesome!
As with the m7, the m8 has a very robust development and theme community (in the international m8 forum), however, there's always room for LeeDroid!

Excellent. Definitely should consider coming back and doing a ROM for this phone. It's a great successor to the M7.

I use to only but HTC devices. Starting with the Nexus One to the HTC Hero and all the way up to the Evo 3D . I then felt like they weren't what they used to be and felt they were dropping the ball. So I decided to switch to Samsung. I've owned the Galaxy S2, 3, 4, the Galaxy Note 1, 2 and 3. I then started to get a little disappointed in Samsung and had to make a choice of sticking with them and going with the S5 or giving HTC another chance and getting the One M8. Well I decided to go with the One M8 and boy am I glad I did. As with every device there are going to be a few things you wish they would of done differently but in all honesty, this is hands down the best Android device I've ever owned and I've owned a lot so that's saying something. I'm telling you now if your on the fence just jump and jump fast lol. I promise you, you will not regret it. HTC hit it out of the park with this one imo.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk

LeeDroid said:
Hi All
some of you know me some of you don't, looking for some general feedback and feelings around the One M8 as a device overall from its xda user group.
The plan, providing I manage to get my hands on one, is to get back into Development and resurrect LeeDrOiD Roms.
It's been a while!
Cheers
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Man, can't wait to see you back...
Why you just don't consider developing for M7 and M8, the rom is almost the same... But both phones are awesome! I have a M7

Just to chime in here, I absolutely love the M8. It's my favorite phone since the HD2.
You should definitely grab one, even if you don't wanna dev on it, just to have.
But of course, on the other hand, the more devs we have for it the better.

Hey leedroid! I remember your developing from when I had my old phones. I used to help out sundawg with his ROMs testing and thread maintenance. I am picking my M8 the first week of July when have my JUMP available. The wife just got the phone and I'm jealous. Its an amazing and beautiful phone. We would be honored to have you back deving and this device would be perfect!
Sent from my LG-D801 using Tapatalk

Yeah old thread, but I decided to search google for leedroid to see what was going on. I was right thinking you weren't dev on xda anymore, but to see that you're maybe coming back! Your rom were awesome. Since I quit your rom for a new phone, I'm on viper and has been with them for my last phones. But if your to come back, to M8.. dam... I'll surely try your rom for old time sake!

Leedroid makes incredible roms...... would love to have something from him on this awesome piece of hardware!

Hi, The Legendary Leedroid.
I have been using your Leedroid ROM for Desire since 2011.
In fact I'm still using it until now.
It's good to hear that you are planning to come back.
Can't wait for the next Leedroid..
Regards,
Szenpai
LeeDroid said:
Hi All
some of you know me some of you don't, looking for some general feedback and feelings around the One M8 as a device overall from its xda user group.
The plan, providing I manage to get my hands on one, is to get back into Development and resurrect LeeDrOiD Roms.
It's been a while!
Cheers
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