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[Q] Difference between Telus, Rogers and Bell models unlocked

Im planning on buying a GS3 this week but wanted to make sure I get the model of phone that best suits me. I am currently with fido and will be unlocking the phone if needed (I might not need to unlock if I get the rogers model).
What differences is there between the Telus, Rogers, and Bell phone if it is unlocked? Would it just be the bloatware on the phone or is there other minor differences? If they are all the exact same, would that mean if I got the Telus model, I could flash the Rogers stock firmware and my phone would essentially be a Rogers unlocked phone?
Sorry I'm a little confused, hope that makes sense.
Thanks in advance!
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the hard part would be installing the stock firmware, if there is a hardware check, it may give you an error if they made a slight change to the model #. if there was a cwm flashable zip, you would be fine. Outside of that, nope no differences.

OK thanks. I'm just thinking if I wanted to keep stock firmware, but wanted the jelly bean update as soon as its available, I didn't want to be stuck on a carriers phone who will release the jb update in 2014. I believe all 3 carriers have pushed back their jb update is that correct? I guess if I really needed jb on the phone I could always flash a stock ROM from the original development thread correct? And that wouldn't void my warranty?
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bdithug said:
OK thanks. I'm just thinking if I wanted to keep stock firmware, but wanted the jelly bean update as soon as its available, I didn't want to be stuck on a carriers phone who will release the jb update in 2014. I believe all 3 carriers have pushed back their jb update is that correct? I guess if I really needed jb on the phone I could always flash a stock ROM from the original development thread correct? And that wouldn't void my warranty?
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It would void your warranty. I'm running stock JB, you can use an app called triangle away to remove all trip counters and then flash a stock firmware if you need to return/replace the device.

Thanks!
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I'm with Rogers, bought an unlocked Bell phone, Used Odin to flash Rogers stock no problems at all

get a rogers sgs3, as the unlock code for the telus model is like twice as much.

Everything I've read tells me that the Rogers, bell, telus phones are exactly the same minus carrier bloat. They are all the same model number (sgh-i747m)
The only way you should be able to tell between them on a non stock rom would be to look up the imei.

[Q] GalaxyNote2 N7105 start up screen issue

Hi everyone i am new to this.
Basiclly I have a Galaxy Note 2 LTE and i recently flashed a stock rom of Jelly Bean 4.1.2
My problem is before i flashed it, my startup and shut down was the stock Samsung one and now its the annoying T-mobile one
After flashing it also installed a few T-mobile apps and also T-mobile ringtones. Can someone tell me how to get back to the original Startup animation and also how to remove all this T-mobile crap!

You flashed a T-Mo branded firmware. Flash any unbranded on from sammobile and branded apps and boot logos will revert to sammy ones.
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Haha just do what he said and flash a stock firmware.

You can just replace the startup and shutdown animation files if you want. But its easier to just flash an unbranded rom if you don't know what your doing. All your apps and data should stay in place.
Zip included just in case. Ps this zip is not for flashing, do im manually with root explorer Instructions included.

thanks for all the replies.
this rom i flashed wasnt an official UK one and it said nothing about t-mobile. it said i needed an unlocked phone before flashing so was kinda shoked to see the t-mobile logo lol.
so do i just wait for the stock UK rom to come out then???
thanks again

It has already came out
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r8umar said:
thanks for all the replies.
this rom i flashed wasnt an official UK one and it said nothing about t-mobile. it said i needed an unlocked phone before flashing so was kinda shoked to see the t-mobile logo lol.
so do i just wait for the stock UK rom to come out then???
thanks again
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I'd imagine it would be rather odd seeing a network logo on an unlocked phone!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696&highlight=cf+autoroot
Yes, no UK one is out yet for unlocked. I'm waiting for the O2 or unlocked one. But I think it doesn't matter which one you use since it's only the first initial start up screen will come in that particular language, so you could use another countries. I just want to wait Should come out some time this month, if not in a few days.

Omen123 said:
I'd imagine it would be rather odd seeing a network logo on an unlocked phone!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896696&highlight=cf+autoroot
Yes, no UK one is out yet for unlocked. I'm waiting for the O2 or unlocked one. But I think it doesn't matter which one you use since it's only the first initial start up screen will come in that particular language, so you could use another countries. I just want to wait Should come out some time this month, if not in a few days.
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I just flashed this ROM on my uk N7105, working great,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2072621
OK its been tweaked to be rooted etc but I always root anyway.

Nice one

Bell to rogers and back again

I recently had to downgrade my rom so I could use of of the unlocking methods I found here on xda. I went over to sammobile and downloaded the appropriate rom ( android 4.1) for my carrier and phone, I flashed it using mobile odin, turns out it was a rom for a rogers phone even thought the description and even the file ended with BMC and not RWC which indicated it was for bell, any case I unlocked the phone all went back an restored the system image from cwm all was fine till about 24 hours ago when my phone started acting up very glitchy and i decided it was time to to a full clean up and resort the stock rom. I again mobile odin to flash stock but for what ever reason the apps being loded on to the phone are for rogers carrier. I am using I317MVLBMA3_I317MOYABMA3_BMC which by all indication tells me its for bell, so what the hell is going on ? I have downloaded this and flashed it both from mobile odin and from my pc and ever time its a rogers rom. any help would be great.

They're the same roms. All Canadian versions are the same except the system carrier apps included. Your glitches probably happened from something else. Is there any app that you've installed in the last 24 hours or have you done something unusual on your phone in the last 24 hours?

koreancanuck said:
They're the same roms. All Canadian versions are the same except the system carrier apps included. Your glitches probably happened from something else. Is there any app that you've installed in the last 24 hours or have you done something unusual on your phone in the last 24 hours?
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they are for the most part the same roms with minor differences for instance the rogers rom displays a 4g icon where as the bell displays a HSDPA icon or something lol, and also the carrier bloatware is not the same bell has its own bloat, even the browser launches to rogers website. I even removed the bloat with titanium and when i flashed the new rom it came right back so i have no idea why this ghost apk files are coming from.

update, I downloaded the telus firmware and tried to flash that with odin, flashed fine but rogers apps are still there. can not return to bell stock firmware, any help would be great.

Download csc changer from play and set it for bmc whats funny is mine is rogers but when I flash it I get all bell stuff
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32dave said:
Download csc changer from play and set it for bmc whats funny is mine is rogers but when I flash it I get all bell stuff
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worked out great thanks a lot man, I was racking my brain why this was not working.

Going back to 4.1.1 Stock Help!

Hi All,
I just picked up a i317m Note II - It's locked to Rogers and I need to use it with Telus (I'm in Canada). The phone is stock 4.3 Rom.
I've unlocked a few S3's/Note II's in the past using the "free method" through the service menu's, but remember at the time the phone needed to be on 4.1.1 to work. (Even the updated 4.1.2 didn't have the proper menu items)
Can I simply revert back to 4.1.1 from 4.3 without issue using Odin and the Rogers 4.1.1 Firmware from SamMobile? Will it cause any issues?
I'm new to this whole Knox thing, need to do some reading this weekend about what's changed in the past 6 months here, but for now, I need to get the phone unlocked so I can at least use it.
Any help/comments ASAP would be great.

If your simply trying to unlock the device from the hidden menu. Then your best bet would be too flash the older modem. That was released with the 4.1.1 firmware. Then that menu will show up for you to do the unlock...
Or another option is to go to http://www.sammobile.com/
to get your stock firmware...
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Bajanman said:
If your simply trying to unlock the device from the hidden menu. Then your best bet would be too flash the older modem. That was released with the 4.1.1 firmware. Then that menu will show up for you to do the unlock...
Or another option is to go to http://www.sammobile.com/
to get your stock firmware...
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Thanks - I was just wanting to confirm there were no issues downgrading this method from 4.3 to 4.1.1 - I've done it before but not since official 4.3 had hit.
Turns out this thread was not needed. I just bought the used Note II and was told it was locked to Rogers. I just put my Telus sim in it and all is working fine, it's already been unlocked. Strange, but good enough.

bigystyle84 said:
Thanks - I was just wanting to confirm there were no issues downgrading this method from 4.3 to 4.1.1 - I've done it before but not since official 4.3 had hit.
Turns out this thread was not needed. I just bought the used Note II and was told it was locked to Rogers. I just put my Telus sim in it and all is working fine, it's already been unlocked. Strange, but good enough.
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You can't downgrade after having the official 4.3 firmware/bootloader.
And that person you got it from must have unlocked it when it was on 4.1.1
That's good it's working:thumbup:
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Hey Guys
I was using a rooted Note II having 4.1.2 then i decided to run a custom rom which was having Android 4.4.4 and it worked perfectly then i decided to change to the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (4.4.2) offical firmware and installed that using the sammobile uk version and using odin.
When it was installed i couldnt call nor i could send any messages but the mobile is detecting the Sim Card but having no signals on it, It is detecting the numbers of the sim and also the 3g Internet is working.
I saw on many threads people were complaining regarding no IMEI but my IMEI i think is the correct one, I have attached the screens of the status below.
Thanks
i.imgur.com/EFthaIz.png
i.imgur.com/1HD50mv.png

msk19994 said:
Hey Guys
I was using a rooted Note II having 4.1.2 then i decided to run a custom rom which was having Android 4.4.4 and it worked perfectly then i decided to change to the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (4.4.2) offical firmware and installed that using the sammobile uk version and using odin.
When it was installed i couldnt call nor i could send any messages but the mobile is detecting the Sim Card but having no signals on it, It is detecting the numbers of the sim and also the 3g Internet is working.
I saw on many threads people were complaining regarding no IMEI but my IMEI i think is the correct one, I have attached the screens of the status below.
Thanks
i.imgur.com/EFthaIz.png
i.imgur.com/1HD50mv.png
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U r on stock without root n ur imei is correct?
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You've probably flashed incorrect rom.
But since you haven't bothered leaving relevant info like what model your phone is and specifically which rom file you flashed nobody can be sure.

karan2012 said:
U r on stock without root n ur imei is correct?
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I downloaded the original one from the sammobile sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=32635 and installed it via odin and IMEI i think is correct and it didnt show signals so i rooted it but it still didnt work, Then getting pissed off i installed clockworkmod on it that is compatible on my device and then i rooted again with a custom rom but now it wont work on the custom rom too. In other words it down grading it from an upgraded custom rom to the original rom messed up some files and now i cant call nor message anyone
TheATHEiST said:
You've probably flashed incorrect rom.
But since you haven't bothered leaving relevant info like what model your phone is and specifically which rom file you flashed nobody can be sure.
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Ah i did flash a correct Rom, I have already said that i have Galaxy Note 2 and flashed the android 4.4.2 rom from sammobile and it was the uk version rom url sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=32635

msk19994 said:
I downloaded the original one from the sammobile sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=32635 and installed it via odin and IMEI i think is correct and it didnt show signals so i rooted it but it still didnt work, Then getting pissed off i installed clockworkmod on it that is compatible on my device and then i rooted again with a custom rom but now it wont work on the custom rom too. In other words it down grading it from an upgraded custom rom to the original rom messed up some files and now i cant call nor message anyone
Ah i did flash a correct Rom, I have already said that i have Galaxy Note 2 and flashed the android 4.4.2 rom from sammobile and it was the uk version rom url sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=32635
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"galaxy note 2" is not model number, Its name of phone. Model numbers for Note 2 are n7100 or n7105 for example. There are also multiple UK roms.