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[Q] would you recommend me buy an xperia arc s? why?

Hi, I'm an user of an old xperia x8 and I'm thinking in upgrade to an Arc S but I need to know a few things before, like battery life and smoothness of UI in GB and ICS (I'm not planing to install custom kernel/rom).
I've watched some reviews on youtube but the only thing I see there is people scrolling through settings, app drawer, etc... I need to know how it behave in daily use based on your experiences... I hope you can help me
thanks
best regards

What is your budget first of all?

yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)

LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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4 days???!!!!
what rom and kernel are you using?
overclocked?
what governor and scheduler?

LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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could you please define what does normal use mean for you if the same as for me (gmail sync on, some emails.. 15-25 as i use them instead of sms mainly, little bit of gaming like 30 minutes per day, maybe 15 minutes of talking and a couple of sms messages) then your results are astonishing... with such usage my phone struggles to stay unpluged for 20hrs.
anyway, as it was asked, on what rom and settings?!?!

thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol

darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
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Well i would not recommend arc s at this moment.. i accept it is a great phone looks great but its a bit outdated at this moment.. i would ask you to buy a xperia nxt series phone..
And samsung looks ugly in my opinion.. you can also check out htc one v..
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darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
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i am sure it can handle that much of load for a day..samsung sucks..yesterday had a fight on S2 forum on the same topic..got a warning from Forum Mod too

It would be wise for now to go for Xperia P or U considering the same price as Arc S..
If you desire much for Arc S,then simply go for it!
+1 for Samsung sucks!

+1 for the same. Lol.
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Battery of arc s is I think 12 hours if u use these things n tht is enough
None phone give like tht with WiFi n 3 g

The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT 4DAYS
HOW COME??????????????

ArmorD said:
The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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Who said so?
GB with Arconium has a terribly smooth experience!
The same with battery, i get about a whole day with a single charge which is more than enough for me and most of the people!
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This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s

Tbh, the Xperia s is good, but not a huge leap from the arc. Dual core is used to imply better performance, but it's the context that matters. If microsecond improvements in response really matter then go for an Xperia s, but don't look for a huge difference in performance overall then unless you're a huge gaming freak with no PSP the difference will be negligible.
sinkster©

Shetz said:
This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s
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Well he said so tat his budget would be lik in a Arc S range only!
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I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..

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mandarjoshiin said:
I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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now.i.feel said:
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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Yeah of course, + 1 for Sony,
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[Q] to upgrade or to root

Hi, I am having a dilemma as titled. I am getting increasingly frustrated by the low RAM and poor battery life (with hot phone) of my Xperia S (on B.1.96 latest firmware). I use Whatsapp a lot and it couldn't keep itself in memory if I launch/run Chrome at the same time. The push notification is still there but it will load again to get into the conversation page. Does custom ROM provide much better memory handling to allow better management? My Nexus 7 feels just fine even both devices run on 1GB RAM (of course Nexus 7 has more cores, but I think it doesn't affect memory management.)
Living in Malaysia, where temperature is generally higher also doesn't help the phone, which gets hot very easily. It gets hot easily and drains battery - I could get something as ridiculous as getting 5 minutes on screen time but already went through 40% of the juice after half a day. I don't believe there is anything to do with stupid background apps as I screen my apps pretty vigorously on their efficiency and most of them are inherited from my older HTC Desire - which has no background apps problem for me. I believe it's definitely a firmware issue but I am not sure how much can custom ROM fix in that department?
Should I upgrade? My current shortlist will be either an Xperia Z1 or a HTC One. I still admire HTC phones a lot and the One certainly does very well to impress me. My main concern is on its aluminium as I'll definitely opt for the black option, it may reveal scratch and scuff very easily. Z1 looks to be an impressive phone but I am slightly worried with its increased size and weight. I always try to handle phones in one hand to see if I could drag down the notification bar without reshuffling my fingers and the HTC One is as probably the largest I could take. But the extra battery, on-screen button (a plus for me) and water-resistant ability keeps me pretty interested (especially Sony Malaysia is bundling the dock together).
Will rooting and custom ROM solve my frustration? Or I am better off upgrading to a proper flagship?

you haven't said what phone and on what firmware?
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Ben36 said:
you haven't said what phone and on what firmware?
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Oops, my bad. It's Xperia S and on latest B.1.96 firmware.

I live in Malaysia too,and to be honest - The kadar kepanasan (hot rate) is damn high recently...and if a phone is hotter,the performance will be sluggish
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unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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Ben36 said:
unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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That is one of the options but how much improvement it warrants? It baffles me that the Nexus 4 has twice the mileage my Xperia S could get - sure there's hardware and firmware difference and 300mAh difference, but it still does not make much sense to me. The Xperia S has not had good battery life and I must keep it charged whenever I have the chance.

AOSP 4.3 is amazingly smooth and fast!
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tanjinjack said:
That is one of the options but how much improvement it warrants? It baffles me that the Nexus 4 has twice the mileage my Xperia S could get - sure there's hardware and firmware difference and 300mAh difference, but it still does not make much sense to me. The Xperia S has not had good battery life and I must keep it charged whenever I have the chance.
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I suggest you unlock your bootloader and flash Pongnamu's PureSlim from the development forum. It did wonders to my battery life and it lasts a day with moderate-heavy usage.
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Is Sony cheating us??

Hi to all Sony xperia users. I was playing with my wife's micromax canvas hd phone and surprised to see its total ram exactly about 1 gb with the same screen resolution as of ours xperia s whereas in xperia s it's very low around 700 mb. Against claimed 1gb by Sony. Anyone have a explanation or their views about this?
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Sony xperia s
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Amount of free ram depends on the chipset the device uses.
None of Micromax devices use snapdragon chipsets.
While our Xperia S uses snapdragon s3 chipset and it requires that 300 MB reserved for GPU.
So you get around 700 MB for apps.
Newer chipset has reduced memory requirement for GPU like the one in Xperia Z which requires less than 200 MB.
One more example,
My laptop has 4 GB of RAM but out of that 1 GB is reserved for system and i only get 3GB Ram as usable memory.

~300mb of ram are used by system or something like that

the more the system ram,less the phone lags.check samsung phones(eg galaxy s2,it has same 1gb but 900 mb free).lags like hell.so dont complaint.all apps work fine,no problem multitasking and its fluid

franklin93 said:
the more the system ram,less the phone lags.check samsung phones(eg galaxy s2,it has same 1gb but 900 mb free).lags like hell.so dont complaint.all apps work fine,no problem multitasking and its fluid
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Heh, I wish that XS wouldn't lag

yUlekk said:
Heh, I wish that XS wouldn't lag
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It never lags for me in jb.it never lagged or even slowed down for me.just as fast as quad core,believe me.ics was good but I felt a lil slow,jb is amazing

franklin93 said:
It never lags for me in jb.it never lagged or even slowed down for me.just as fast as quad core,believe me.ics was good but I felt a lil slow,jb is amazing
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As a matter of fact, our device had the best ICS ROM than any other during the time.. Except for Nexus devices..

sudhindrakv said:
As a matter of fact, our device had the best ICS ROM than any other during the time.. Except for Nexus devices..
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I know but never experienced because I got it during android 4.2 times.my phone is only few months old.I saw many ics review videos and they say it was one of the finest looking interface back then,well polished.I still agree it was good but felt performance was a lil slow to my taste.jb is just perfect as per speed

franklin93 said:
I know but never experienced because I got it during android 4.2 times.my phone is only few months old.I saw many ics review videos and they say it was one of the finest looking interface back then,well polished.I still agree it was good but felt performance was a lil slow to my taste.jb is just perfect as per speed
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Ours was flagship device know, so we had the best ROM like Z1 has now..

sudhindrakv said:
Ours was flagship device know, so we had the best ROM like Z1 has now..
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So sony did give it a royal treatment before killing it.thats glad to hear its really a flagship even now,for me.never slowed down.awesome phone

Are you guys using the same phone as me? lol. My phone lags like hell sometimes. It takes 2-3 minutes to open phonebook :laugh: I was blown away by note3's smoothness today. Cant wait till i get my hands on it :victory:

mithab said:
Are you guys using the same phone as me? lol. My phone lags like hell sometimes. It takes 2-3 minutes to open phonebook :laugh: I was blown away by note3's smoothness today. Cant wait till i get my hands on it :victory:
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U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..

sudhindrakv said:
U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..
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cool, you are using Existence?

Dodofant said:
cool, you are using Existence?
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Stock was smooth, but eXistenZ is way too fast..

sudhindrakv said:
U have some serious problems on your phone boy.. My contacts or phonebook only takes around 2 seconds max to open..
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Maybe i have too many contacts lol. :cyclops: I didn't see anyone with this problem so I guess, its on me. What governors and scheduler are you using if I might ask.

mithab said:
Maybe i have too many contacts lol. :cyclops: I didn't see anyone with this problem so I guess, its on me. What governors and scheduler are you using if I might ask.
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Ondemand and Conservative will do.. It gave me good battery and decent performance.. for good performance, u can use performance governors itself..

Xperia ZL overheat issue

I just bought my Xperia ZL a month ago and upgraded to JB 4.2.2 (FW 10.3.1.A.2.67) but I have an overheating issue with the battery now. It goes to 47 degree C in 5 minute for a light usage like browsing with Google Chrome. Is it true that FW 2.67 is causing an overheat? Cause several forums says so. will downgrading to JB 4.1.2 can fix this issue? Thanks

renzzoman said:
I just bought my Xperia ZL a month ago and upgraded to JB 4.2.2 (FW 10.3.1.A.2.67) but I have an overheating issue with the battery now. It goes to 47 degree C in 5 minute for a light usage like browsing with Google Chrome. Is it true that FW 2.67 is causing an overheat? Cause several forums says so. will downgrading to JB 4.1.2 can fix this issue? Thanks
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I have no problems anymore since I installed FW 10.3.1.A.2.67.
In May I did have heating problems, when the phone was on the lock screen and did not have any internet connection (Wifi, Edge, 3G
or 4G) on holiday.
Maybe you need to reset your phone and ré-insatll everything. I think you have a process that's eats all cpu and so your battery

dmeerpa said:
I have no problems anymore since I installed FW 10.3.1.A.2.67.
In May I did have heating problems, when the phone was on the lock screen and did not have any internet connection (Wifi, Edge, 3G
or 4G) on holiday.
Maybe you need to reset your phone and ré-insatll everything. I think you have a process that's eats all cpu and so your battery
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Well, you mean factory reset?

renzzoman said:
Well, you mean factory reset?
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I have overheating problems. Having that already a long time. ​Have tried almost every solution there is online:
* Snapdragon battery GURU
* Factory Reset
* Rooting
* BL unlocking, locking
* Switching Battery Adapter (Charger, from weaker to original Xperia ZL).
* Switching to 4.3 Android
* build 244.
* build 67.
* Will Try possibly Warranty in USA.

tracins said:
I have overheating problems. Having that already a long time. ​Have tried almost every solution there is online:
* Snapdragon battery GURU
* Factory Reset
* Rooting
* BL unlocking, locking
* Switching Battery Adapter (Charger, from weaker to original Xperia ZL).
* Switching to 4.3 Android
* build 244.
* build 67.
* Will Try possibly Warranty in USA.
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So which one is the best solution?

For me, there is no solution.
Just tried again switching to .244 and SEUS repair, no use, nothing helped.
It gets some kind of loop. When it gets overheated and thats fast, simply watch some video in youtube or just sit in CHROME, suprisingly that i played Candy Crush and it survived, only 1 or 2 times he restarted bootloop.
I guess the warranty is the only option.
I'll check back if something new comes up.

So... I know with the 6506 I just bought, I experience pretty good heat if I create a nandroid... Not sure what to think with that as other phones haven't done that...
Is that normal (do others experience a significant heat rise when they do a nandroid?)

scifan said:
So... I know with the 6506 I just bought, I experience pretty good heat if I create a nandroid... Not sure what to think with that as other phones haven't done that...
Is that normal (do others experience a significant heat rise when they do a nandroid?)
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My phone can get pretty warm during nandroid. That's why I like TWRP, it'll go automatically shut off the screen after a while, which reduces battery drain and heat.

thnks.. Didn't know!
Seems usefull

TheTofu said:
My phone can get pretty warm during nandroid. That's why I like TWRP, it'll go automatically shut off the screen after a while, which reduces battery drain and heat.
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Interesting... So I could be creating some of my own problem since I tend to plug it in to charge while it's backing up...
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It's the snapdragon s4 pro chip. I had the lg optimus g and it did the same thing. It was worse though having the glass back.
I have had better luck with the zl overall. But Gaming gets it pretty hot. And ya, nandroids take forever and get the phone pretty toasty. Watching videos and stuff isn't so bad.
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ATRIXXIRTA said:
It's the snapdragon s4 pro chip. I had the lg optimus g and it did the same thing. It was worse though having the glass back.
I have had better luck with the zl overall. But Gaming gets it pretty hot. And ya, nandroids take forever and get the phone pretty toasty. Watching videos and stuff isn't so bad.
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+1
The only thing you can do is undervolting and changing governor.
The newer snapdragon and tegra chips are getting hot as ****.
Imagine an s800 @2,3 ghz
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ATRIXXIRTA said:
It's the snapdragon s4 pro chip. I had the lg optimus g and it did the same thing. It was worse though having the glass back.
I have had better luck with the zl overall. But Gaming gets it pretty hot. And ya, nandroids take forever and get the phone pretty toasty. Watching videos and stuff isn't so bad.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
+1
The only thing you can do is undervolting and changing governor.
The newer snapdragon and tegra chips are getting hot as ****.
Imagine an s800 @2,3 ghz
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Snapdragon is produce less heat as they advertised. So I guess it's just a branding campaign then :laugh: It just cross my mind to change my device with the one use Snapdragon s800

Some one asked to Sony? What Sony say about this subject?
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Haven't responded! For 2 months already!

Try using android tuner...make all 4 cores running at max 1ghz and on demand(require root unfortunately)..i've been doing it for some time and barely solved the overheat issue and the phone still smooth...
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ruzainiizuan said:
Try using android tuner...make all 4 cores running at max 1ghz and on demand(require root unfortunately)..i've been doing it for some time and barely solved the overheat issue and the phone still smooth...
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You noticed less battery consumption?

But so you lost power.
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pedromsouza said:
You noticed less battery consumption?
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I dont think so..
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Since I left 3G for Wi-Fi, my ZL is way cooler.

[Q] Jellybean or Kitkat?

So I've this Z1 Compact and I charged it to 100% when i got home (the first charge) since its Li-ion and cause I've read everywhere that you don't need to keep it plugged in for 6hrs straight I din't let it.
The next day morning itself I found Kitkat update and updated. But it seems the battery drain is far more on Kitkat than on jellybean as per reports from a whole lot of people who get upto 7hrs screen on time or more on Jellbean and I manage barely 4-5hrs max even on wifi.
Kitkat was supposed to have better battery life, as is the case with most other phones and that's why I din't give it a second thought and updated, now I'm thinking of rotting and flashing back Jellybean stock rom, what do you guys think?
And from the last 2 days, camera app is also behaving a bit odd, in manual mode specially, its hanging when i click a photo and the photo doesnt get saved, to avoid a reboot i just lock screen and turn on.
So any suggestions?

darkmystel said:
So I've this Z1 Compact and I charged it to 100% when i got home (the first charge) since its Li-ion and cause I've read everywhere that you don't need to keep it plugged in for 6hrs straight I din't let it.
The next day morning itself I found Kitkat update and updated. But it seems the battery drain is far more on Kitkat than on jellybean as per reports from a whole lot of people who get upto 7hrs screen on time or more on Jellbean and I manage barely 4-5hrs max even on wifi.
Kitkat was supposed to have better battery life, as is the case with most other phones and that's why I din't give it a second thought and updated, now I'm thinking of rotting and flashing back Jellybean stock rom, what do you guys think?
And from the last 2 days, camera app is also behaving a bit odd, in manual mode specially, its hanging when i click a photo and the photo doesnt get saved, to avoid a reboot i just lock screen and turn on.
So any suggestions?
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Stock KK here, rooted and debloated but bootloader locked. Yeah, JB have better battery but difference is not significant maybe 30min. difference in screen time. Nonetheless phone can still survive a day of heavy use and still go home with a juice to spare.

infinitylook said:
Stock KK here, rooted and debloated but bootloader locked. Yeah, JB have better battery but difference is not significant maybe 30min. difference in screen time. Nonetheless phone can still survive a day of heavy use and still go home with a juice to spare.
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Oh that's all ha and the bugs with camera?
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darkmystel said:
Oh that's all ha and the bugs with camera?
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what bugs? i don't see any bugs, camera is quite improved (in my view) especially in low light.

infinitylook said:
what bugs? i don't see any bugs, camera is quite improved (in my view) especially in low light.
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Photo not getting clicked actually, as it gets hung, and at times launching camera from lock screen also leads to this
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im sorry to hear about that. Hey, have you tried factory reset? i really never experience those bugs. Have you tried repair using PC companion? Flashing would flashtool is better but repairing with PC companion also does the trick.

infinitylook said:
im sorry to hear about that. Hey, have you tried factory reset? i really never experience those bugs. Have you tried repair using PC companion? Flashing would flashtool is better but repairing with PC companion also does the trick.
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Actually I did a factory reset, N I've faced this problem prominently today , I've managed to click only 1 photo from 7 tries
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darkmystel said:
Actually I did a factory reset, N I've faced this problem prominently today , I've managed to click only 1 photo from 7 tries
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really sorry to hear about that. maybe you try downgrading to JB. If it still persist then maybe that's a hardware problem already. It's the first time i heard that bug really so that's the only thing that I can suggest.

infinitylook said:
really sorry to hear about that. maybe you try downgrading to JB. If it still persist then maybe that's a hardware problem already. It's the first time i heard that bug really so that's the only thing that I can suggest.
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Ah okay , actually my friend using an Z1 also has had similar bugs after he updated to kitkat N he suggested me not to update, but by then I had already done, never mind hope everything gets fixed in next Android release at least if this ain't a hardware issue
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N I was thinking about the other issue that I faced N it's with the external Sd card,
I can't move or delete anything from the sd card with es file Explorer
Anybody else having any issue with external Sd card?
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darkmystel said:
N I was thinking about the other issue that I faced N it's with the external Sd card,
I can't move or delete anything from the sd card with es file Explorer
Anybody else having any issue with external Sd card?
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I had some issues like that on stock rooted. Solution was this.

charlatan01 said:
I had some issues like that on stock rooted. Solution was this.
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Uffo now I really have to root the phone ha
All these Google apps are weird ;/ I disabled them N phone is overheating like hell :/
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will go back to JB and compare again which is good.

infinitylook said:
will go back to JB and compare again which is good.
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I've been thinking about that only
If it's possible to downgrade without voiding warranty N rooting
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darkmystel said:
I've been thinking about that only
If it's possible to downgrade without voiding warranty N rooting
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Yes u can downgrade and it would not void your warranty
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coolkoushik07 said:
Yes u can downgrade and it would not void your warranty
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Aha I'm trying to get the stuff but net is horrible
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