Related
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We root, because we must... It doesn't make the phone slower. It does the opposite (With the right kernel, that is )
Rooting ONLY means, that you have the right, to accss the ROM (Read-only memory) where the system files are saved...
Which means, yes. You can have root access, on a stock-ROM phone
(If interested, check my signature ^^)
unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting just gives you more control over your phone, the ability to easily freeze/delete system apps, flash alternate kernels, etc... You can run your stock ROM whilst rooted, it won't slow you down.
Rooting also opens the door to being able to flash (i.e. install) alternate, custom ROMs among other things.
A basic rooted stock ROM is a good place to start out, and learn your way around things before you decide, or not, to start flashing custom kernels, ROMs, etc... OR you can happily cruise along on a fully stock phone.
Just a quick summary; there's lots more specific info available on this site, and the intarwebz to give you more detail if needed.
I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.
myrdog said:
I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You just said, what I said ((and the other bloke, after me) xD
Yes, you answered it. But in a way, that no n00b would understand, unless he wrote it himself (You) lol
There are many reasons to root, my favorites are that I can access the root or the phone, meaning I can replace the rooms, kernels to my liking. I can overclock or underclock the phone. One more than I like to do it use ad blocker so I don't need to deal with the stupid ads that are in free apps
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
We root because we like to have good phones .
And the benefits like custom colors, kernels, ROMs, and all that is nice.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
GummyNex (9.0)
Air Kernel (3.45)
OC 1000/200 (Lionheart)
Live OC (100 -Noop)
v6 Supercharged
To get the most out of my phone. Especially in the g1 days, you pretty much had to root because of the phones limitations
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
You root to gain admin access to your phone. You'd never use a computer without admin access, same on a phone. You can tweak and change anything you can imagine with root access.
And no it doesn't make it slower, actually can make it faster.
Root access doesn't do anything in itself. It just gives you administrator access to all of the system files.
Once you have that access, you can start tweaking.
Root is only required for deep-level back-up programs, some file explorers, and rom tweakers such as Rom Manager.
Day to day stuff, Android is pretty open to anything.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Rooting allows you to release the full potential of your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21328733
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Its not just system access, its a way of life!
Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
daproject said:
Hello guy. Sorry im new. I just got this note 2 a coupke of weeks ago. Just want to know if is that good to have a rooted device. I always had jailbreaked iphones. So i really dont know what to do. For what I can see the android is very good as it is. I would like to know the benefits of root a device and if you can point to the best ways and options to do this thanks for help.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If ur happy with ur device now... dont root. If u want more then what yur getting...root it. Root for myself is a must so i can use titanium backup and more.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
The phone is pretty good out of the box.
However rooting will give you much more control on the phone. So it really depends on what you want to do with your phone.
Example rooting enables you to remove bloatware from your, disable auto start ups , backup data with titanium backup etc.
But since you are new. I suggest you play around with your phone a bit longer for the stock experience and do more research on the advantages of rooting before you decide to root and delete/disable important system files or fiddle something that screw up your phone causing you to re Flash the whole rom
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Don't root it if you don't need it right now. I have rooted my previous phones for apps like Titanium Backup but I didn't need any of these apps on Note 2, so I didn't see a point in rooting. I suggest you the same. There is no big plus when you root. You can remove carrier apps, or install apps that messes around with system files but if you don't need these things, you don't have to root. You'll root it when you need it.
I'm ignoring the exynos exploit when I say these things btw.
I would say yes
It depends on you. If you like it out of the box then don't.
For me it is always - YES. Why?
-Titanium Backup (backup)
-Mobile odin (flashing)
-Adaway (hmm)
-all music tweaks
-Joystick Center (all games played with pad)
-sd-booster (that's clear)
-undelete (restoring deleted files)
-WifiKill (find out yourself )
And much more.
Rooting just to install apps and little modifications to your phone to show off to your galaxy note 2 friends that aren't rooted is enough reason but there's a lot more behind rooting!
Sent From An Incognegro Galaxy Note 2
I'd always do it, mainly because I'm paranoid and cannot live without regular device backups.
And there is always a bunch of apps I don't want on my phone, but cannot get rid of easily. However, with the amount of space on the Note 2 that's hardly a reason anymore - it definitely was one when I still had the HTC Desire.
DON'T root it unless you need custom ROM.
AND
I don't think you need custom ROM because it is toooo early looking for one now..
Trust me on this..
BR.
just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!
KpopAMD said:
just rooted my phone! now the search for custom firmware begins! join me dude! hehe
on a side note guys that are rooted with stock firmware can we install an app that removes those pesky ads from apps? or we need to have custom roms first? thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
unholygid said:
Im on full stock rooted rom. I find it no need to flash a custom rom cos stock is pretty damm stable and fast for me with very good battery life.
I'm using root cos of titanium backup, disabling ads, removing useless start ups and deleting bloatware.
Yes you can download adaway from play store
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for the reply sir, not to take away from the thread starter but what can we use to remove bloatwares on rooted but stock roms? aside from paying programs like titanium pro? is there any other way? i wanna be able to remove bloatwares without using custom roms thanks!
Whats the deal with the titanium backup. You cant make backups ? Like with the iphone, in the computer? Or you are talking beyond a simple backup
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
Thanks for the reply guys. Im still not sure to root or not. I probably will wait a bit longer. I really enjoy customising the device and i can do it without rooting for the moment.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
You can't back uo app data without a root and titanium backup. A very annoying thing about unrooted phones. Why can't they just let us back stufd up?
With Exynos Abuse, I don't see any reason not to root. It's super simple to root and unroot. Also, if you disable the exploit with Exynos Abuse and are going to unroot, make sure to enable (uncheck the box) the exploit first. If you do not, you will no longer be able to use the app to root, until you use a different root method. (I'll give you one guess on how I know that... :banghead: )
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda app-developers app
Without root you cant delete all this unnecessary samsung app-**** and free more than 100mb space from your ROM memory.
Rooting takes my device to a whole new level.
-Titanium backups
-Adblocking
-Spen gesture control
-Xposed framework for unlimited multiwindows, per app dpi settings, various ui tweaks.
-Etc.etc... so many valuable tools work only with rooting.
Backups are my main concern, but the other root apps make this device much more enjoyable. :thumbup:
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 using Tapatalk 2
I say root. I've rooted many devices and had no issues. Best advice for a noob would be to read over the root process for your device. After you have read the process once go over it again, and again, and again. Best to know the in's and out's before you attempt the process. Not to make the whole process sound scary but knowledge is power. If your on the fence about the whoel root process I say root but leave stock recovery. This way when it comes to returning phone for warranty if needed you simple unroot and off it goes. Worst case if you want to go all the way the great peeps of XDA always have a return to stock guide. Hope this helps
ROOT ur going to do it sooner or later
Definitely go for Root. All those above suggested programs are a must, especially Adblock and i will add Lucky patcher, which removes google adds from free programs. :angel:
every entry tells you either to flash something or is only for some special mods..... what if your device is not rooted
greatgrandking said:
every entry tells you either to flash something or is only for some special mods..... what if your device is not rooted
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No root means no custom roms no flashing no root apps no decent backup apps no mods no anything basically. Sorry to put it bluntly. .
Sent from my GT-N7105 using xda premium
XDA = root
my S pen did this.
By and large the vast majority of mods require your phone to be rooted. This is xda, the forum for power users. It's just how things are here I'm afraid. There are mods which don't require it but they are a small minority.
Why not do some reading and then root? It's fairly safe so long as you backup your efs and note your stock rom version first. As long as you do these things you can always go back. Few do though, once you have root it's hard to go back.
-- Sent from the mighty Note 2 --
If you don't want to root device then Play store might be more helpful.
This thread is for all those lonely people out there who are on 98.18.78xt907. Unfortunately we cannot unlock the bootloader so we are forced to run Safestrap with limited options! Let us discuss ROMS! I would like something that doesn't appear sickeningly stock (not that stock is bad it's actually quite beautiful, but is the point of rooting customizing and performance?) something that comes bare bones without all the ridiculous bloat ware, and something that is crazy fast yet conservative on the battery. Please discuss these and talk of your experiences! Thank you all!
WhatTheCuss said:
This thread is for all those lonely people out there who are on 98.18.78xt907. Unfortunately we cannot unlock the bootloader so we are forced to run Safestrap with limited options! Let us discuss ROMS! I would like something that doesn't appear sickeningly stock (not that stock is bad it's actually quite beautiful, but is the point of rooting customizing and performance?) something that comes bare bones without all the ridiculous bloat ware, and something that is crazy fast yet conservative on the battery. Please discuss these and talk of your experiences! Thank you all!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just b/c your phone is locked does NOT mean that you cannot root it (I believe). after root, you can than freeze all the bloat you want. you can also install some root apps like "pimp my ROM" and such....
jco23 said:
just b/c your phone is locked does NOT mean that you cannot root it (I believe). after root, you can than freeze all the bloat you want. you can also install some root apps like "pimp my ROM" and such....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, you can ROOT the device but Motorola fixed the patch of the prior model so that now you can't unlock the BOOTLOADER, meaning you can't run a true recovery other than Safestrap which only has a couple of roms available but as far as I have seen they are quite mediocre. But yes, since I rooted the device I installed titanium backup and actually just deleted the stock bloat ware.
I'll say that I enjoy having an unlocked bootloader, but I've only had it unlocked about a month now. Before that I was rooted and content. If I couldn't have been rooted then I would have missed that. But for me, it's not that big of a leap to have my bootloader unlocked. Flashing roms is fun, but not why I love my phone.
Sent from my Droid Razr M using xda app-developers app
Ok I have been reading a lot of Posts on Root/Root unlock boot loader. I am a little confused with all of it. I am coming from a LG G2 to the LG G4 on Verizon
If I remember, I rooted my G2 with iRoot. I am not someone that plays with roms. I am only interested in rooting my phone so I am able to use Hot Spot if needed, and a few apps like Titanium Backup. As well as being able to turn off some of the bloat ware.
(Q) - Am I able to Root my phone for the things I listed? Or do I need to wait for the wonderful DEV community to be able to unlock the boot loader?
Thank you
hd-renegade said:
Ok I have been reading a lot of Posts on Root/Root unlock boot loader. I am a little confused with all of it. I am coming from a LG G2 to the LG G4 on Verizon
If I remember, I rooted my G2 with iRoot. I am not someone that plays with roms. I am only interested in rooting my phone so I am able to use Hot Spot if needed, and a few apps like Titanium Backup. As well as being able to turn off some of the bloat ware.
(Q) - Am I able to Root my phone for the things I listed? Or do I need to wait for the wonderful DEV community to be able to unlock the boot loader?
Thank you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's nothing available ATM so we'll ALL have to be patient and polite
Sent from my G4 using your mom
Dennisg34 said:
There's nothing available ATM so we'll ALL have to be patient and polite
Sent from my G4 using your mom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That does help, at least I didn't miss something with all of the posts I have read.
hd-renegade said:
That does help, at least I didn't miss something with all of the posts I have read.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No worries, it hasn't even been a week since it's been officially released so it will just take some time.
Sent from my G4 using your mom
Dennisg34 said:
No worries, it hasn't even been a week since it's been officially released so it will just take some time.
Sent from my G4 using your mom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do understand that. Just so much info flying around, and with work and everything else, just not enough time to read all of it.
It is good to see people are working on cracking the egg so to speak.
I love root. It is pretty important to me. I have rooted every device I have ever owned (and many for many people). I value things like:
1. using deeper control of Tasker (GPS, airplane mode, etc.)
2. using deeper control of Root Explorer file manager
3. Using a root run firewall to block data access (versus VPN if no root)
4. Running AdAway to kill every conceivable ad I can from apps to websites (XDA is terrible w/ ads for example)
5. using root based exploits of other apps like Lightflow or backup utilities or call blocking tools (since you can only do 10 SMS/phone # blocks on VZW and they only last 90 days)
6. using root apps to freeze and delete bloat
7. and of course, having something like CWM or TWRP
8. Xposed!
With Verizon, I have watched it become more and more of a PITA. But I loved the specs of this phone so much, I took the leap praying root will come to us without any loss or damage of native functions.
So assume the exploit used by current AIO LG root tool is closed on the G4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
speedingcheetah said:
So assume the exploit used by current AIO LG root tool is closed on the G4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
A simple search of "G4" in that thread reveals this answer...
No.
New G4 lacks ability to run scripts from this COM prompt. Still a work in progress
Lock-N-Load said:
A simple search of "G4" in that thread reveals this answer...
No.
New G4 lacks ability to run scripts from this COM prompt. Still a work in progress
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bu there is a rootem stock rom for the g4 out....but for the H815 variant...what ever one that is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-h815-10a-stock-rooted-rom-t3129036
speedingcheetah said:
Bu there is a rootem stock rom for the g4 out....but for the H815 variant...what ever one that is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/rom-h815-10a-stock-rooted-rom-t3129036
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not Verizon related or capable - which is why we are here, in this thread, about..... Verizon