Main questions of TWRP or CWM / CW / Flashtool / Kernel / Bootloader - Sony Xperia ZL

Hi all,
Before anything, let me tell that I m a very noob.
Is twrp and cwm the same thing? I mean, 2 different apps with the same function? If does, which one is better? Both can be installed in locked bootloader? I have to install it in my pc or device?
What do you mean with: Do not keep phone plugged in while rebooting into CWM, phone may loose the ability to boot into cwm, reinstalling the root and CWM does not fix it. Also xparts does not boot inot CWM. full wipe is needed. (I saw that in the cwm tópic)
Other thing, what is CW? Cw10 and cw10.1
What is kernel used for? I read the most part of the people use doomkernel. Whats the benefits and cons? Do I have to unlock the bootloader to change the stock kernel for that? If not, how can I install it? How can I save a backup with all the factory settings, fw, kernel...??
For example, if I want to install a customized mod or even rom, is there anyway to do it with lock bootloader? Just rooting, using twrp/cwm and flashtool?
What are the main functions of the apps flashtool, twrp, cwm? Both must be installed in my pc or device?
Thanks previously for your help
Regards

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Migliano said:
Hi all,
Before anything, let me tell that I m a very noob.
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So am I.
Is twrp and cwm the same thing? I mean, 2 different apps with the same function? If does, which one is better? Both can be installed in locked bootloader? I have to install it in my pc or device?
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They are both recoveries to flash custom roms/kernels. "TWRP=Team Win Recovery" is touch screen, while "CWM=Clockwork Mod Recovery" is not. The do have the same functions, just different ways of accessing each function. Better is relative, because developers may suggest one or the other. Yes both can be installed on a locked bootloader on your device, but installed through your PC.
What do you mean with: Do not keep phone plugged in while rebooting into CWM, phone may loose the ability to boot into cwm, reinstalling the root and CWM does not fix it. Also xparts does not boot inot CWM. full wipe is needed. (I saw that in the cwm tópic)
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There seems to be a bug with the CWM recovery for the ZL.
Other thing, what is CW? Cw10 and cw10.1
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Not sure about this one, but my guess is you mean CM10/CM10.1. If so it is a Custom rom "Clockwork Mod" by developers who started in the Early days of android, since that was the only custom rom available most users tend to prefer that to other. So developers now let the users know if it has a similar feel to it.
What is kernel used for? I read the most part of the people use doomkernel. Whats the benefits and cons? Do I have to unlock the bootloader to change the stock kernel for that? If not, how can I install it? How can I save a backup with all the factory settings, fw, kernel...??
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Kernel is what lets you tweak certain aspects of your phone which are not allowed. Custom kernels give added functionality as well as controlling some behavior of the phone. (Not 100% sure about this one.)
For example, if I want to install a customized mod or even rom, is there anyway to do it with lock bootloader? Just rooting, using twrp/cwm and flashtool?
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You will have to install flashtool on your PC, Locked bootloader or not. This is the only program that can transfer and install firmware files on you device. To root, there a multiple methods to so, but require a specific firmware version to be on the device, which is where flashtool comes in. TWRP/CWM will then be installed on your device to allow you to install custom roms.
What are the main functions of the apps flashtool, twrp, cwm? Both must be installed in my pc or device?
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Flashtool is the only program that can transfer and install firmware files on you device, and must be installed on PC. TWRP/CWM are recoveries used to add mods, install roms, create backups of all files and settings (incase of issues with roms) and must be installed on Device.
Thanks previously for your help
Regards
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Hope this helps.

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[Q] Nexus Factory image, can I flash it like a ROM?

So the Verizon 4.0.4 Factory Image was just published by Google, so I downloaded it to my phone for safe keeping. I'm just curious, if I install a custom ROM and I want to go back to stock ICS can I just flash this file like a ROM? Also will I loose root if I do that?
This is what I'm talking about.
Yes you loose root and custom recovery.
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actually, no... you have to flash it using fastboot commands, flashing image by image:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloaderxxxxx.img
fastboot flash system systemxxxx.img
fastboot flash recovery recoveryxxx.img
etc, etc, etc...
your phone will be exactly like never touched, that means of course, stock with no root or custom recovery.
barbac666 said:
Yes you loose root and custom recovery.
CM9 kang powered by TRINITY
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thiagodark said:
actually, no... you have to flash it using fastboot commands, flashing image by image:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloaderxxxxx.img
fastboot flash system systemxxxx.img
fastboot flash recovery recoveryxxx.img
etc, etc, etc...
your phone will be exactly like never touched, that means of course, stock with no root or custom recovery.
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Thank you, so when I rooted my phone it created a recovery image, and that's what I would want to use to go back to "stock + keeping root"
Right?
Yes make a nandroid backup in CWM , and if you want to go back restore this.
In CWM go to backup and restore.
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Big Cam said:
Thank you, so when I rooted my phone it created a recovery image, and that's what I would want to use to go back to "stock + keeping root"
Right?
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don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
It's alot easier if you use the Nexus tool kit v7, It makes it alot easier by placing the image file in the specific folder and just tapping a key. Then again it's best to keep a placed copy elsewhere as the image tends to get wiped/deleted after flashing (to avoid conflict with other image files).
thiagodark said:
don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
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I think I got it. I think I slightly misunderstood the true meaning of root.
All I've done so far is unlock the bootloader and flashed the recovery that was instructed in this thread. So the recovery image I flashed there, replaced my "stock" one, but after doing a reboot, the stock recovery replaced my custom one? So I'm now stock with an unlocked bootloader and root?
As for the toolkit, I'm going to look into it, I was just looking to root, and followed the guide I found.
thiagodark said:
don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
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You dont need to flash cwm to get it running. If its only needed to flash su/superuser.apk, you may 'fastboot boot cwm.img', it will take you to cwm.
Misledz said:
It's alot easier if you use the Nexus tool kit v7, It makes it alot easier by placing the image file in the specific folder and just tapping a key. Then again it's best to keep a placed copy elsewhere as the image tends to get wiped/deleted after flashing (to avoid conflict with other image files).
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Why doesnt he use the toolkit? Because it's better for them if people learn how to do this manually. Scripts are helpful, but dont teach you anything.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Why doesnt he use the toolkit? Because it's better for them if people learn how to do this manually. Scripts are helpful, but dont teach you anything.
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That's exactly why I wanted to do it like that.
On my LG Revolution there was pretty much only one root method and it was a one click, so I've never rooted manually. I'm happy I did.
I have Rom ToolBox Pro that I bought when I had my Revolution so I have access to boot to recovery and manage ROM's. I was just curious about the Google image file.
So at this point, is there really a reason for the Toolbox? Since I'm rooted already, I can do backups from CWM Recovery as well as flashing ROM's and Kernals. I've only ever done this from CWM on the phone so I'm used to doing it on the phone. I read most of the thread and it seams most helpful in the rooting/unlocking process.

[Q]ODIN and root

does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.
zaid98 said:
does the galaxy W need to be rooted to flash with ODIN or it does not need to be.
for example i can just flash CWM and then install CM9 without root and I'll be ok.
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ODIN is to be use on standard updates on stock ROM. Normally you can get it through www.sammobile.com/firmware/
Root ROM like CM9 by Arco and others variation such as Paranoid Android by Doomsday94 must be on rooted phone. This link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1317394) will helps you how to root. I suggest you read through these steps.
you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not
zaid98 said:
you didn't understand what i meant what i meant does the stock ROM need to be rooted to flash CWM via odin or not
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You seems to be new here. He's answer was right but since you cannot relate to what he said, the simple answer for your question is
"No."
If you have more question, follow them up.
My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Anything on a computer has full access to android devices. So odin and other apps like that for computers will be able to do anything to your device if it reqiures download mode. Download mode is basicly rhe first piece of already rooted (you could say) equiptment on a phone that anyone could access.
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zaid98 said:
My question was not how to root but in short does odin need root to be used or not
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Odin does not need root. It's a standard software from Samsung to updates/upgrade/downgrade stock ROM or even flash baseband (upgrade/downgrade). But in order to use ODIN, your phone must be on download mode.
I hope this is simple enough for you to try. Again, please read my first post comments.
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I've been trying to figure out what you really mean but I really don't understand.
In one way or another, you will be needing both root and CWM if you're to use your phone to the fullest. I strongly suggest to do the two things.
i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.
necrohades said:
i suppose your question was "do you need root before flashing CWM with ODIN?"
i think you can flash it (CWM recovery) without rooting, but on the other hand, CWM might need root access before it can work on your phone.
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Anything that isnt download mode always requires root if it involves modifying the /system
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melledug said:
if me no root but live use flash cwm via odin, whats live root?
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I think what this guy meant was: If I'm not rooted, but can flash CWM using ODIN, what's the purpose of rooting?
Assuming I translated his question correctly, here's my answer :
Flashing a recovery (RZR, CWM) or a ROM (BC2, Kez, BN, ArcoICS) is like installing Windows 7 on a PC: You don't need to know the password of the Administrator account of the previous OS; just boot the Setup DVD, and it has full unfettered access to the whole PC.
Rooting a phone is unlocking its capability. It's like resetting the administrator password of a PC, so that you can install things on it.
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Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.
NigthWolf23 said:
Guys,
I installed the CWM before rooting, is it a problem? How can I root my phone with CWM already installed? I am having some problems with Cyanonmod 10, for exemple, I can't take pictures because it says that there's no external SD Card installed what isn't true.
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Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
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gmaster1 said:
Short answer: no. its not a problem. You can root your phone with cwm installed. It wont affect anything. And if you want root then just search it up.
Secondly, about CM10.1, its still in alpha.(bugs like that are always probable) Dont report it here. Report it in the CM10 thread. Its bound to get noticed more there and fixed quicker there.
That's right, I'm the premium potaytoman and i seek the TROOOOOF! Problem?
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Not a problem, but u can't root your device with cwm6, only with cwm5 or stock recovery
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[Q]CWM + Root

Hi guys, so i have my stock Xperia Play GSM and i wanna install a custom Kernel with CWM and then root the phone using CWM. Can you please tell me what is the best Kernel for games and also has the CWM built in. Do i have to do anything else to my phone before i can do this ? I unlocked my bootloader and installed Flashtool ...
Device: Sony Ericsson Xperia Play R800i GSM, Android 2.3.4 -> 4.0.2.A.0.69
Thanks !
I can't tell you which is the best, and I hope all threads starting with "best" gets locked. But generally you need 2.3.3 to root but since you already have an unlocked bootloader, you can install any custom kernel, they have CWM installed so you can boot into recovery by pressing the Volume down button at Sony logo. From there you can install a custom rom that is already rooted. You need the rom and kernel to be compatible with each other in order for the phone to boot.
If you want to just root the phone you need to down grade to 2.3.3 and use the root feature in flashtool. If you want to manually install clock work mod, after rooting, use the CWM installer version 5 from this link, the option to reboot into CWM in the program will not work BTW, you'll have to do it manually. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840
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eksasol said:
I can't tell you which is the best, and I hope all threads starting with "best" gets locked. But generally you need 2.3.3 to root but since you already have an unlocked bootloader, you can install any custom kernel, they have CWM installed so you can boot into recovery by pressing the Volume down button at Sony logo. From there you can install a custom rom that is already rooted. You need the rom and kernel to be compatible with each other in order for the phone to boot.
If you want to just root the phone you need to down grade to 2.3.3 and use the root feature in flashtool. If you want to manually install clock work mod, after rooting, use the CWM installer version 5 from this link, the option to reboot into CWM in the program will not work BTW, you'll have to do it manually. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1437840
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If my bootloader would be locked, would flashtool work ? I wanna downgrade to 2.3.3 but when i do so, the program get's stuck at 17% ... When i flash the ROM, do i need to check/uncheck any items ? Like kernel or bootloader ?
K4maD3va said:
If my bootloader would be locked, would flashtool work ? I wanna downgrade to 2.3.3 but when i do so, the program get's stuck at 17% ... When i flash the ROM, do i need to check/uncheck any items ? Like kernel or bootloader ?
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The flashing process can take time, wait up to 10minutes. Sometimes it can get stuck due to bad cable or other variables. Try plugin it in a different port, preferably USB 2.0 port, and with no other USB devices connected to your computer, keep trying and it will work eventually. Try a different cable as well.
Flashtool have to work with locked bootloader, which is needed if you want to restore a locked phone to stock. You don't have to check anything unless you want to specifically exclude it from being flashes. You should flash this firmware, its 2.3.4 but it has been modified to be rootable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1591398
I thought you said you unlocked your bootloader though.

[Q] Flash bootics.img on Xperia Play

Start by saying I'm very new about Android and smartphone in general.
Four days ago I got my first smartphone, a Xperia Play model R800i and some friends suggested me to install ICS. I searched on the internet and I have found the Xperia Play Development forum. There, I found a really interesting ROM called "New Express ICS".
I downloaded all the files and I started to follow the guide. I'm stuck at the second point (I believe this is ridiculous): I can't get into the Recovery Mode and I didn't get if I can flash the custom kernel (bootics.img) on flash tool.
I haven't rooted my phone, it's 100% virgin, yet.
Can someone explain me what to do? I'm searching answer here and on google for three days and I'm getting even more confused.
Sorry if my english is not perfect, it isn't my first language.
You need to unlock bootloader before fastboot a kernel (bootics.img)
WARNING: THIS VOIDS WARRANTY. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
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You need to unlock bootloader before fastboot a kernel (bootics.img)
WARNING: THIS VOIDS WARRANTY. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
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Thank you very much, I'm going to do this. Is this a good guide?
After that what I have to do? How I will flash the rom? Sorry for all these newbie questions.
You should read all his guides.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836530
First read root, then unlock bootloader, then install custom roms.
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eksasol said:
You should read all his guides.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836530
First read root, then unlock bootloader, then install custom roms.
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Thanks for the link, it's very useful! Just a question: what do you mean with "read the root"? I have to root the phone?
I rooted my phone and I found the superuser app on this. Then, I unlocked the bootloader and the superuser app disappered, is it normal?
One more thing, how I flash the custom kernel and the ROM, now?
EDIT: Fail, Superuser is installed, yet, I didn't notice that
EDIT2: Why I can't get into the recovery mode?
unlock bootloader here http://www.xperiagamer.com/Beginners-Guides/unlock-the-bootloader-ramge.html
im not responsible for any damage:good:
Gianmark said:
I rooted my phone and I found the superuser app on this. Then, I unlocked the bootloader and the superuser app disappered, is it normal?
One more thing, how I flash the custom kernel and the ROM, now?
EDIT: Fail, Superuser is installed, yet, I didn't notice that
EDIT2: Why I can't get into the recovery mode?
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I see you unlock your bootloader, good job! Place the ROM zip into your SD card first. Next, to get into recovery mode, just fastboot the kernel you want.
-Power off phone.
-Hold search button while connecting to PC via USB
-Open flashtool, click the thunderbolt icon, select fastboot
-Select kernel to flash (select your kernel bootics.img)
-Wait for 2 seconds and voila!
After that, power on your phone, when blue LED lights up with a vibration, spam volume button / back button (depends on kernel) then you'll be able to enter recovery
Gianmark said:
One more thing, how I flash the custom kernel and the ROM, now?
EDIT: Fail, Superuser is installed, yet, I didn't notice that
EDIT2: Why I can't get into the recovery mode?
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Again, read his guide on flashing kernel and roms: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054512
Which kernel you flash is depended on the rom you want to use it with, you need to flash a GB kernel if you want to use GB rom, ICS kernel for ICS, etc, although some kernel are compatible with both ICS and JB. Search the development section for kernels and roms. If you flash a rom and it fail to boot, it mean the kernel currently installed is not compatible with that rom.
About ClockworkMod Recovery:
If you flash a custom kernel, it will likely have ClockworkMod Recovery included. Or if you are using stock Sony firmware, use the "CWM installer version 5" from this link to install CWM. Sometimes you will get a status 7 error when you try flashing a rom, it might mean you have to use a different version of ClockworkMod to flash that rom successfully.
First of all, thank you both!
Can I flash bootics.img in the Flashtool? The fma965's tutorial speaks about a "*.zip" file besides a "*.img" file.
Also, he says to use fastboot package that I have already used to unlock the bootloader.
EDIT: I need Busybox? What is it? I didn't get it.
Gianmark said:
First of all, thank you both!
Can I flash bootics.img in the Flashtool? The fma965's tutorial speaks about a "*.zip" file besides a "*.img" file.
Also, he says to use fastboot package that I have already used to unlock the bootloader.
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Flash boot.img in Flashtool/Fastboot as instructions above from jeff7424:good:Zip files are what you put on your sd card and flash with cwm recovery, these can be either roms, updates to roms,zip files to change appearance, performance tweaks, too many to mention.
So .img and .ftf files use in Flashtool/Fastboot and zip files use on SD card to flash with CWM recovery.
Not to complicate it too much sometimes the boot.img comes in a .zip file you need to extract this to use in flashtool/fastboot with winra/7z unzip programs
Edit; Busybox download it with Superuser app on your phone or download a app from store to update your busybox
What is it?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox
But I don't need busybox to flash kernel and ROM, right?
You can get busybox from Play Store, just search Busybox installer, install it, open the app and install busybox.
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You can get busybox from Play Store, just search Busybox installer, install it, open the app and install busybox.
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I didn't get if I need it to flash kernel and ROM.
Root your phone with zergrush, that will give you busybox too.
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Root your phone with zergrush, that will give you busybox too.
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http://puu.sh/1VV8Q
In that case, I've already installed it.
EDIT: What I have to click? http://puu.sh/1VVgK
"Select Kernel to flash"?
EDIT2: I don't need a custom firmware?
Yeah select kernel to flash. Nope you just need an unlocked bootloader.
I DID IT.
But I'm a bit disappointed because Crash Bandicoot disappered...
Thanks everyone, by the way.
For the future update, the phone will format again?
WARNING: Do not use SEUS to update or repair your phone since you have an unlocked bootloader, if not you'll brick your phone.
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WARNING: Do not use SEUS to update or repair your phone since you have an unlocked bootloader, if not you'll brick your phone.
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SEUS?

Rooting 6.0 M8

Hey guys,
Newbie here, looking to root my M8 running on Android 6.0
I've been reading a bit and came across first unlocking bootloader, any of you guys know what to do afterwards on 6.0 since the guides I've read are on M8s running 4.4 and 5.0?
I want to flash RESURRECTION REMIX v5.8.2, any help pls?
Also, does anyone know if this ROM supports Substratum theme engine?
Thanks a lot in advance guys!
To be clear, there is a difference between just rooting (stock ROM), and process for flashing a custom ROM. Main reason for confusion, is that you do not need to root in order to flash a custom ROM (contrary to some other devices). You simply need an unlocked bootloader, and custom recovery TWRP.
Before you unlock the bootloader, backup any of your data (off-phone to computer, SD, etc.) you want to keep; as the phone will be wiped when you unlock the bootloader.
After unlocking the bootloader, just flash TWRP using fastboot. You should use current TWRP version, which is 3.1.0-0 which you can get here: https://dl.twrp.me/m8/
After that, just put the desired ROM on the phone, boot into TWRP, backup your current (stock) ROM (in case you want or need to revert) then do default wipe in TWRP (data, Dalvik, cache) and install the ROM.
I don't know if RR supports substratum. Just check or search the RR ROM thread.
Also, questions should be posted to the Q&A section, not General. So I'll ask the mods to move this thread.
BadPug said:
I want to flash RESURRECTION REMIX v5.8.2, any help pls?
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that is covered in the post above mine
BadPug said:
Also, does anyone know if this ROM supports Substratum theme engine?
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yes it does
Hi,
I'm trying to install custom rom (the same one) on my device as well. Do I need a different kernel or S-off in order to flash the ROM? i would like to modify my phone as little as possible in order to avoid any possibility of a hard brick. tnx
petarcrncec said:
Hi,
I'm trying to install custom rom (the same one) on my device as well. Do I need a different kernel or S-off in order to flash the ROM? i would like to modify my phone as little as possible in order to avoid any possibility of a hard brick. tnx
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if you want to flash custom rom you only need unlocked bootloader + twrp installed
no need for another kernel or s-off
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ahmed.ismael said:
if you want to flash custom rom you only need unlocked bootloader + twrp installed
no need for another kernel or s-off
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Tnx for the response, I've assumed that would be the case so I did it anyway yesterday and I'm glad to report it is working
petarcrncec said:
Do I need a different kernel or S-off in order to flash the ROM?
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To be clear, the kernel flashes with the ROM on this device, and that is true with s-on.
There are older HTC devices, where you had to flash the kernel separately by fastboot, or have s-off (in which case, kernel would flash with the ROM). But none of this ever applied to the M8.
redpoint73 said:
To be clear, the kernel flashes with the ROM on this device, and that is true with s-on.
There are older HTC devices, where you had to flash the kernel separately by fastboot, or have s-off (in which case, kernel would flash with the ROM). But none of this ever applied to the M8.
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Thanks for the clarification, that's probably why i got confused (watched some older video on rooting, kernel, c roms and so on). So which parts of software (or hardware) would you want to manipulate with or change that would require s-off?
petarcrncec said:
Thanks for the clarification, that's probably why i got confused (watched some older video on rooting, kernel, c roms and so on).
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Always be sure to research the root/mod methods for your specific device (not just another HTC phone, etc.). Every phone has its own peculiarities and nuances.
petarcrncec said:
So which parts of software (or hardware) would you want to manipulate with or change that would require s-off?
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There is a number of modifications that require s-off, such as changing CID/MID, flashing modified hboots, manually flashing radios, flashing older version RUU ("downgrading") and a number of other things.
But for root, flashing ROMs, and most other common mods, just having an unlocked bootloader, custom recovery TWRP and s-on is enough.
Hi,
My question is the same, how to root HTC ONE M8,
However, I installed a Custom WOLLA.SENSE7.MM.V3 using this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/progress-fuu-m8-t2813792/
What is the best/safest method to root now.
Thank you
K4R33M said:
Hi,
My question is the same, how to root HTC ONE M8,
However, I installed a Custom WOLLA.SENSE7.MM.V3 using this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/development/progress-fuu-m8-t2813792/
What is the best/safest method to root now.
Thank you
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The ROM that you installed is pre-rooted, no need to root again.
ckpv5 said:
The ROM that you installed is pre-rooted, no need to root again.
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Thank you, although when I'm trying to install Apps that require roots like (Xframeword, Privacy..) It keeps telling that I need Root.
Edit: Precisely when trying to install Xposed Installer: (Failed to get root access)
Root access to install Xposed Installler
This is what I get when trying to install Xposed Installer (Attached Screenshots).
How could I proceed.
Thank you
K4R33M said:
This is what I get when trying to install Xposed Installer (Attached Screenshots).
How could I proceed.
Thank you
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Flash the xposed framework in recovery
Download it from the app itself as seen in your screenshot ( version 87 ) and flash in twrp
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ahmed.ismael said:
Flash the xposed framework in recovery
Download it from the app itself as seen in your screenshot ( version 87 ) and flash in twrp
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Hi,
I will install it via Recovery as shown in the attached screenshot.
Next, what shall I do? how to flash in TWRP, and what is the aim from flashing.
Thank you
K4R33M said:
Hi,
I will install it via Recovery as shown in the attached screenshot.
Next, what shall I do? how to flash in TWRP, and what is the aim from flashing.
Thank you
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Why you need to install xposed while you don't know about it ?
Flash in recovery by boot to recovery and tap install then navigate to the .zip location in storage and sweep to confirm that's how to flash a .zip from twrp
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ahmed.ismael said:
Flash the xposed framework in recovery
Download it from the app itself as seen in your screenshot ( version 87 ) and flash in twrp
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs
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ahmed.ismael said:
Why you need to install xposed while you don't know about it ?
Flash in recovery by boot to recovery and tap install then navigate to the .zip location in storage and sweep to confirm that's how to flash a .zip from twrp
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs
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Well, I think I know a little about it, else, how I managed to install the indicated Rom.
Although, what I was asking about, since the Isntalled Rom is already pre-rooted, why do I need a full flash using TWRP again.
Thanks
K4R33M said:
Well, I think I know a little about it, else, how I managed to install the indicated Rom.
Although, what I was asking about, since the Isntalled Rom is already pre-rooted, why do I need a full flash using TWRP again.
Thanks
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Root and xposed is tow different things you need root for something and xposed for a different thing
for example you don't need root to have a working xposed framework ( some modules require root though )
So it's up to you and what you will use
We can tell you what you have to do if you tell us what you up to
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K4R33M said:
Well, I think I know a little about it, else, how I managed to install the indicated Rom.
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What I think he meant was: if you want to use Xposed, read and understand about it first. You should have read the basic instructions on how to install it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
K4R33M said:
Although, what I was asking about, since the Isntalled Rom is already pre-rooted, why do I need a full flash using TWRP again.
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In order for xposed to work, you need to flash the xposed framework using TWRP, period. It's not complicated, and it's stated in the instructions clearly.
redpoint73 said:
In order for xposed to work, you need to flash the xposed framework using TWRP, period. It's not complicated, and it's stated in the instructions clearly.
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I am a bit confused here, the situation is like this: I need Xposed installed in order to use some modules mainly (Xprivacy..).
I have tried to install TWRP using Adb (Attached) which I assume it wasn't successful so far.
how to proceed now.
Thanks

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