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About ram memory..

So I Wonder whats a good app to kill tasks and what should be the regular apps running on the background..
With 4.0.4 stock i was always on 320~350 now on AOKP+ francos im over 450, so what could I kill and would be a normal ram use?
Again what could be a good task killer
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msedek said:
So I Wonder whats a good app to kill tasks and what should be the regular apps running on the background..
With 4.0.4 stock i was always on 320~350 now on AOKP+ francos im over 450, so what could I kill and would be a normal ram use?
Again what could be a good task killer
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the best thing for android is u DONT need to care about ram. android is way smarter than u think. it kills apps when it needs by itself, so u dont need a task killer

You have a Galaxy Nexus... Don't worry about ram usage. The phone will work at the same speed if you have 500mb of ram or 5000
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msedek said:
So I Wonder whats a good app to kill tasks and what should be the regular apps running on the background..
With 4.0.4 stock i was always on 320~350 now on AOKP+ francos im over 450, so what could I kill and would be a normal ram use?
Again what could be a good task killer
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Don't use a task killer. Free RAM is wasted RAM. Stop being OCD about it and just let the device run.

RAM memory! Ha. That's as annoying and funny as PIN number!
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neederishelp said:
You have a Galaxy Nexus... Don't worry about ram usage. The phone will work at the same speed if you have 500mb of ram or 5000
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I ask cuz I ve read some threads from people complaning about the phone rebooting after reaching nearly 600mb ram and my phone would reboot by itself like once per week wich its annoying
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msedek said:
I ask cuz I ve read some threads from people complaning about the phone rebooting after reaching nearly 600mb ram and my phone would reboot by itself like once per week wich its annoying
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The reboot problem pretty surely has nothing to do with running out of RAM.

Quadrant Standard Score

This is unbelievable, this phone gets faster BY the minute
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Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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raw2000j said:
Hows your cpu set up and governors ro achieve thatscore
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It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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Whats your battery life like? 1.9 is amazing

Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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chuko303 said:
Lmao this guy^^^^^ op dont let him scare you. Talk when it has actually happend if so care to share the story?
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Maybe you should consider that you're not the brightest, most experienced person in this thread before talking smack.
Exposing a component to more heat means you are shortening its life, there is no doubt about that. Those with overclocked desktop CPUs often have elaborate setups with overclocking in mind. You can't add a better heatsink, or a fan to your phone. Mobile CPUs, especially, are designed to be efficient at a certain range of clock frequencies. Moving it too far from the norm means you eventually see diminishing returns.
I've fried everything from my first Commodore 64 to my current box, and everything in between. If you think the phone can function at that level for an extended period of time without failure, best of luck to you.
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swalter718 said:
Lol see if that thing isn't a brick after a week of use.
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Dude it was part of the whole meaning of rooting and tweaking. Checking different settings for a little bit, testing them and then reverting back to defaults. I will never leave overclocked/ undervolted or vice-versa settings for a whole day... its just part of the fun of tweaking and experimenting with our devices...
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I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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I am all for overclocking, modding, tweaking, hacking, etc. Breaking **** is the best way to learn. But that doesn't mean you should push your hardware past the point of exponentially diminishing returns, and increased risk of burning your chips out. That is, unless, you have no problem with the very real possibility that you'll need to buy a new phone.
That being said, kudos on "going plaid" with your Quadrant score
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Im with you 100% thus my paranoia about leaving the tweaked cpu/gpu settings for more than an hour or so... Too "paranoid android"
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redpill?
friedrich420 said:
Overclocked at 1.9ghz and gpu to 640 mhz with specific undervolting. Redpill kernel...
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How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?

XxLostSoulxX said:
It's more based on how the rom works, and the kernel yes helps with CPU and GPU scores but I noticed his GPU scores are lower than mine, one of the nation reasons I'm still stock. Because it's probably persues kernel and has issues with FPS in real world and quadrant performance.
He probably ran it 1600/1600 on performance or something on those lines
Edit: this is mine stock rooted GPU much better than his, until persues can match this without overclocking the GPU just to get the same performance I do on stock I'm not switching.
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I'm stock rooted for this very reason.
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Adam1422 said:
How is the kernel treating ya? Which one did you flash?
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Its the Redpill v1.42... I prefer it compared to all the others i used ( stock, perseus, n.e.a.k., note2core). Those results were with stock rom but redpill kernel. Im a fan of omega but today i discovered another Rom (Hawkish extreme series Rom for N7100). I may try Perseus with that rom and see how it treats it...
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Hot and rooted

Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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Hm maybe try underclocking a little bit?

Clock speed is same as stock. Shouldn't be the problem.
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Have you done anything to the CPU controls?
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dima470 said:
Title says it all. If I root my S3, it heats up to uncomfortable temperatures. If it's on stock, it runs nice and cool. Battery doesn't seem to be affected by this new heat. And I've tried a lot of kernels and ROMs. Why does my S3 get hot when it's rooted? And I'm not talking like gaming, I'm talking about basic use.
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My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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drock212 said:
My friends S3 used to get really hot and he wasn't rooted. I turned off his location service and no more heat. I presume the heat is coming from something that's running in the background. What rooting method are you using? Also you said you've tried ROMs and kernels. Is the heat coming from rooted stock or only when you switch to another ROM and/or kernel?
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Location services off. Battery stats say screen takes up most of battery(normal for s3.) I used teamwin root from recovery. Anything other than full stock. Includes rooted stock and custom ROMs/kernels.
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Rooting would not cause any extra heating to occur lol

Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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drock212 said:
Give these a try. Better Battery Stats will determine if there's a wakelock not letting your phone truly sleep. And CPU Spy will let you know if your phone is getting stuck at any mhz or if it's sleeping.
Better Battery Stats https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
CPU Spy https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy
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Alright will post my findings today. Im sure that my phone gets the deep sleep it needs. It gets really hot during use.
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Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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dima470 said:
Which stats from BBS do you want? There are many sections.
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I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep

hednik said:
I believe (don't quote me) it the wakelocks and partial wakelocks. Show's what making you phone not stay i deep sleep
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My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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dima470 said:
My phone deep sleeps just fine.. It gets extremely hot during use...
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If it's during use then CPU states. It might be running at higher mhz during use causing the heat problem.
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Alright will share CPU stats by end of the day. I'm pretty sure that's the problem.
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Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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dima470 said:
Ya I think my phone always runs at high frequencies. I used performance control to get this. Whenever I touch the screen or do anything, the clock speed jumps up to 1.5Ghz. My governer is interactive.
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that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.

xBeerdroiDx said:
that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Can we maybe explain it as having a device that just run's hot ? It was my first inclination.
OP, maybe I glanced over it at first but you stated you have used many rom's and kernels and got the exact same response on all the ones you used ?
Did you you try going back to stock rooted and seeing how it was from there ? A completely clean slate might be your best idea. The only way a device will get hot is is more power is being used to keep the processor at higher temperatures. There really isn't any other way or than faulty hardware issue.

xBeerdroiDx said:
that's what it's supposed to do. part of the "project butter" tweaks for jelly bean included this type of CPU jump when performing a task. that instant jolt to the maximum device GHz helps make doing everything on the phone more fluid/fast.
to get better battery on your device and troubleshoot whether this feature is hurting you specifically more than helping, feel free to adjust your max speed. start low, at say 1GHz, then bump it up a hundred at a time to find out where your phone is the most comfortable.
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Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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dima470 said:
Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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its not a price tag. its a script set to take advantage and make the most of the hardware on your phone. as soon as the task has begun, the CPU speed drops immediately.
see above post by hednik. i lean towards his thinking on this

dima470 said:
Guess project butter has a high pricetag. Are there any governers that don't do this? Or is this unpreventable?
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I almost always use ondemand governor. In my humble opinion nearly all the other ones are inefficient or just placebo's. My phone runs streaming radio 4-5 hours a days on LTE and it never gets hot. Stays at around 918mhz at the highest. There a few bugs in 4.1.1 like the media server scanning where it will constantly scan your media because of a bad file.
Odin stock rooted 4.1.1 and then see how it goes. Factory reset it and erase /data or move to to pc or ex sd card. Won't take long and if it still does it I can't see what it would be.

Massive RAM usage

Does anyone know how to fix the massive RAM usage on the Galaxy Pro Tab 10.1?
My Tab is stock unrooted. Without me doing anything it uses 1.2 or more GB of RAM.

Welcome to touchwiz world
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Welcome to touchwiz world
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That was a pretty funny comment haha

Keep in mind touchwiz uses a ton but android is made to keep things in ram.
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Why do you worry about it? Unused RAM in Android is wasted RAM. Let OS manage it, you don't need to pay attention.

PaRaNoidNeM said:
Does anyone know how to fix the massive RAM usage on the Galaxy Pro Tab 10.1?
My Tab is stock unrooted. Without me doing anything it uses 1.2 or more GB of RAM.
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This is not a "problem."
PaRaNoidNeM said:
BLueBLaze100 said:
Welcome to touchwiz world
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That was a pretty funny comment haha
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But inaccurate. It has more to do with how Android manages memory, not with the TouchWiz skin.
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Keep in mind touchwiz uses a ton but android is made to keep things in ram.
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+1 Android intentionally keeps commonly used code and apps in memory to save battery. Keeping apps in memory is more processor efficient than repeatedly dumping and loading them which increases load on the processor, and processor usage makes the difference in battery performance, not how much memory is being used.
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Why do you wary about it? Unused RAM in Android is wasted RAM. Let OS manage it, you don't need to pay attention.
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+1 Task killers and other apps that promise to manage memory are worthless.
A good resource on memory management in the Android world:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023

CafeKampuchia said:
This is not a "problem."
But inaccurate. It has more to do with how Android manages memory, not with the TouchWiz skin.
+1 Android intentionally keeps commonly used code and apps in memory to save battery. Keeping apps in memory is more processor efficient than repeatedly dumping and loading them which increases load on the processor, and processor usage makes the difference in battery performance, not how much memory is being used.
+1 Task killers and other apps that promise to manage memory are worthless.
A good resource on memory management in the Android world:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
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Excellent post. I usually get to respond to these so thanks for beating me to the punch with very good information.

I know Android does a good job managing RAM and that other task managers are worth using.
I did think that using most of the RAM would slow down the tablet.
Thanks to all of you for explaining it to me, I really appreciate it! Now I'm more confident about having only 2GB of RAM.
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Also, there are some apps which are using RAM that I don't use, haven't used, and haven't opened. I was wondering how to get them to stop using RAM because there's no point for them to use my RAM when I don't use the app.
Most are stock Samsung apps.
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PaRaNoidNeM said:
Also, there are some apps which are using RAM that I don't use, haven't used, and haven't opened. I was wondering how to get them to stop using RAM because there's no point for them to use my RAM when I don't use the app.
Most are stock Samsung apps.
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settings-applications.....disable those apps that you are not using

RAM Usage

I'm just curious, does anyone else have unusually high RAM usage? I'm rooted and on SkyDragon, using SkyDragon kernel. My RAM is always between 1.9Gb and 2.3Gb. I have no idea why though because when I look through the running apps, there's not much there, not enough to make it that high anyway.
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H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm just curious, does anyone else have unusually high RAM usage? I'm rooted and on SkyDragon, using SkyDragon kernel. My RAM is always between 1.9Gb and 2.3Gb. I have no idea why though because when I look through the running apps, there's not much there, not enough to make it that high anyway.
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This would probably be a good question in the skydragon thread. I use Android Tuner Pro to monitor and running stock / rooted i am averaging 953mb.

H4rryTipp3r said:
I'm just curious, does anyone else have unusually high RAM usage? I'm rooted and on SkyDragon, using SkyDragon kernel. My RAM is always between 1.9Gb and 2.3Gb. I have no idea why though because when I look through the running apps, there's not much there, not enough to make it that high anyway.
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When they say you have 3gb of ram you don't. Kit Kat uses most of it
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BACARDILIMON said:
When they say you have 3gb of ram you don't. Kit Kat uses most of it
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Oh, I know that. But it still seems unusually high.
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1.5-2.0 used here. 1.9-2.0 is before closing all recent apps, 1.5 after.

High RAM usage is GOOD!!! Unused ram is WASTED ram.

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I'm rooted with SkyDragon kernel and upon a reboot, RAM is 1.5GB free, but as the day wears on, it drops to between 400-600MB free, usually around 500MB free and closes other apps as needed to maintain that 500MB free.
It was the same before I rooted or flashed the new kernel, just seems the way that Android is running the RAM on its phones nowadays.