This has been bugging me for a while and im not sure if its a universal issue or just me,
When they updated the HOX from 4.0.3 to 4.1.1 they introduced the power saving mode, which one of the features involves shutting down the 3G radio when the screen is off and turning it on periodically to for email/whatsapp/facebook/whatever...
So all push notification only work periodically every X minutes instead of being almost instantaneous.
No problem, we turn off power saving mode and its suppose to be disable leaving the 3G radio operational at all times, no ?
Well... no. apparently its a problem im encountering in all sense roms, they all have the same issue, the 3G power saving is still on even if i turn off power saving mode,
Anyone else experiences this ?
If I remember correctly, basically our phones have 3 states: awake/active (your using it), a sort of light sleep, and after some time of not using sleep. I believe that when it goes to sleep the phone will not reconnect to data to update unless the app tells the phones to come out of the 3rd stage, sleep. So really it all depends on how often you have your apps set to update. If you believe you're apps are set correctly and your phone should be waking to update, you can get an app from the play store like gsam and you will want to look for anything that says wake locks. An app that wake locks is an app that is bringing your phone out of sleep to update and so forth. I would start with those things to see if your apps are behaving as they should.
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I am having a sleep issue that I can pinpoint down to one app causing it. I have a Rhod400 and sleep mode is set to 1. It sleeps fine most of the time, but when I run Slacker Radio at all even after insuring it is closed with "advanced task killer" and looking in "services" I'm not sure the phone goes to sleep, because all the LED does is a very fast flash from orange to green to orange... over and over again.
Is that some type of warning message built into the LED troubleshooting of sleep mode, or is the phone trying to go to sleep and then waking itself backup immediately afterwards? Only way to fix this is to reboot XDAndroid.
Anyone else use Slacker Radio and have the same problem or use another app that causes this same symptom?
I use SystemPanelLite to close apps, shouldn't really make a difference on which app you use tho.
Assuming the apps are closed, you should be fine.
But yes, based on your description the phone is going in and out of sleep very quickly... Never experienced the issue myself, but I don't use this app either.
If you cannot recreate the issue on a clean Android installation, I'd definitely say it's the app's fault.
I saw that on one boot too, but I never investigated to see which app caused it.
I had my phone sleep all night and when I woke it up 8 hours later it looked like it was still 100%. But later, after doing some browsing and such, it doesn't go to sleep at all, LED stays orange. I was using wifi and turned that off, but it still isn't going to sleep now. So definitely, there are a bunch of possible situations that prevent the phone from going back to sleep...
I've definitely seen this before as well, where the LED will stay orange, flash to green, and then immediately become orange again, and I've never used Slacker Radio before. Location was disabled, and I went through and killed all non-ordinary processes, and the problem remained until reboot.
There are definitely some possible situations still lurking that prevent sleep. The fact that it's reproducible with Slacker Radio could possibly be helpful to some devs?
I have this both issues too. Flashing green and orange light appeared after playing some 3D games, browsing with wifi and in some random situations. Sometimes i have one another probelem. After start i wait for green light and when this light appear, i can't wake up the phone.
I'm using advanced task killer, but i think that isn't the problem. I have RHOD100 .
I have set the Wifi policy to "Always on".
Many times (but not every time) when my One X goes into sleep mode, all data connections don't work. I notice it because I feel so strange there is no notification from Whatsapp and Line as usual. So, I press the power button and see no data connection at all. After a few second, 3G data connection appears but no wifi. Wifi then replaces 3G a few second later.
It usually happens and I feel so annoyed as I lost communication with my colleagues when One X is sleeping.
Is there somewhere in "Setting" that can override the "Always on" in Wifi policy? If I miss it, please let me know.
I feel very disappionted with my One X as it contains a lot of bugs.
jackie_jerk said:
I have set the Wifi policy to "Always on".
Many times (but not every time) when my One X goes into sleep mode, all data connections don't work. I notice it because I feel so strange there is no notification from Whatsapp and Line as usual. So, I press the power button and see no data connection at all. After a few second, 3G data connection appears but no wifi. Wifi then replaces 3G a few second later.
It usually happens and I feel so annoyed as I lost communication with my colleagues when One X is sleeping.
Is there somewhere in "Setting" that can override the "Always on" in Wifi policy? If I miss it, please let me know.
I feel very disappionted with my One X as it contains a lot of bugs.
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It's happening to me too, it's very frustrating because when turned on it show as connected while it's false.. and i'm unable to browse/etc without re enabling wifi manually.
Same issue on the One S. This is most likely a driver related problem or something. I think the next firmware update should fix this, but if anyone of you can provide a hotfix or something I wouldn't be sad
Getting the exact same problem.
I have not noticed this so far.
same problem with wifi....and in the nights my Data also gets switched off after sometime of inactivity...couldnt find any setting related to that....do any of you know any hidden setting for it?
Yeah it happening to me as well. It could be kernel related.
Same Here
Mine is opposite, I want it to sleep on screen off but it keeps reverting to always on. Quite frustrating as it is the major cause of my battery loss
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Mine uses less battery with wifi on then normal 3g/4g
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Mine uses less battery with wifi on then normal 3g/4g
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yeah same here, i've tested both over night and less battery used on wi-fi than 3g
I cant connect to my home wifi, it show connected then disconnect immediate
it no usaable now in my house
I just noticed this, too. Really annoying when you suddenly stop getting any notifications for E-Mails etc.
This is also not fixed in 1.28 :/.
I seem to only have this during the night hours, though. Like there is some sort of "Quiet Hours"-function but they forgot to put it in the settings >_<
I think this is the special Sleep Mode kicking in, and the WiFi Always-On is overridden by it.
When I turn the screen off, I can still ping my One X over the network. However, after some time (maybe 5-10 mins) it no longer responds and has dropped its WiFi connection.
The Always-On WiFi option has only ever applied to when the screen is off. The sleep mode thing is new and not related to android itself - an HTC hardware thing by the look of it.
Maybe it's fixable in the driver software, but I believe the "WiFi always on" function is behaving correctly - it's the new sleep state that is breaking it.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.
If someone has the time, try setting up a PC to continuously ping the One X and see if it keeps it from going in to sleep mode.
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I think this is the special Sleep Mode kicking in, and the WiFi Always-On is overridden by it.
When I turn the screen off, I can still ping my One X over the network. However, after some time (maybe 5-10 mins) it no longer responds and has dropped its WiFi connection.
The Always-On WiFi option has only ever applied to when the screen is off. The sleep mode thing is new and not related to android itself - an HTC hardware thing by the look of it.
Maybe it's fixable in the driver software, but I believe the "WiFi always on" function is behaving correctly - it's the new sleep state that is breaking it.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like.
If someone has the time, try setting up a PC to continuously ping the One X and see if it keeps it from going in to sleep mode.
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Hello Dave,
Your analysis is quite impressive,
I also started dealing with this from "Special Sleep Mode" perspective.
I have got the FOTA, find data in my signature, and still suffering from the same issue.
To summarize my findings let me brief it:
When I first got the update, the problem seemed to be solved
I kept connected to my home WiFi router for several hours and got notifications from Whatsapp and Twitter
I thought the problem was solved and the bug was fixed, as I kept seeing my OneX on the WiFi Client on my router's managing interface on my PC
I shut down my phone, WiFi was on, and turn it back on
WiFi kicked in and connected with no problems,
An hour after, I sensed something wasn't good, notifications were silenced
I unlocked my phone and checked the status bar to find there were no DATA connections at all, nothing, no WIFi no Mobile Data, the usual bug
Now I started to think,
I Have got this problem after a full shut down, and at a battery below 15%
One thing to add,
I turned my phone off with WiFi enabled and when turned it on WiFi kicked in.
Now I am monitoring on the following basis.
I clicked all WiFi hot spots previously saved on my OneX and chose to "FORGET"
Connected to my preferred hotspot
Monitoring the WIFI, with battery over 15%, seems to be very healthy, more than an hour on sleep mode, and WiFi is on, uninterrupted and VERY CONNECTED
I will keep monitoring the behaviour till battery fall under 15% and will report back
I'll make sure to turn off WiFi before shutting down my phone if I have to, this is to eleminate the other variable and keep concentarting on one variable "Battery percentage"
A point to add:
On my previous Gingerbread SensationXE, there was an option on Settings> Battery to control phone's behavior and stop background sync and other activities when battery fall below a pre-defined percentage.
Default was 15%
I can't find this option on my One X, IceCream Sandwich
That's why I started to analyse the problem from the perspective of "Special Sleep Mode - Below 15%" bahaviour.
I will report back as soon as I have results.
Thank you
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Started to experience same issue when battery falls below 50%.
All DATA gone down, no WiFI and no Mobile Data.
Charged my phone to 73%, "Forget" all WiFi network.
WiFi off
Monitoring Mobile Data only.
Mobile data gone down after 30 minutes sleep mode, 73% battery
Connecting to WiFi, and started monitoring WiFi
WiFi + Mobile Data gone down after 30 minutes.
Power down phone, and then on, 73% Battery, WiFi off
Monitoring Mobile Data only.
Failed, and disconnected
Failure
I've done a Factory Reset !!!
Update:
No problems on WiFi, nor Mobile data whatsoever for the whole day until battery falls below 10% !!!
WiFi disconnected after exactly 15 minutes, Mobile data kicks in, then disconnected as well !!!
I turn on the screen after 20 minutes to find NO DATA CONNECTION of any kind.
Mobile data kicks in, WiFi replaces mobile data, and start receiving all data dependent notifications!!!
I have the same problem, wifi is turned off sometimes when screen is locked.
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I have the same problem, wifi is turned off sometimes when screen is locked.
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Hello Pabson,
Thanks for sharing.
Would you provide more information about your phone's software number, your location (Region, not specific).
Thanks again.
Same here, tried several roms and the same happens with every ROM out there. What is more, I cannot connect to WIFI at work (WPA PSK) but I can connect perfectly to my home WIFI network.
Hopefully this is not a hardware fault and will be fixed.
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Same here, tried several roms and the same happens with every ROM out there. What is more, I cannot connect to WIFI at work (WPA PSK) but I can connect perfectly to my home WIFI network.
Hopefully this is not a hardware fault and will be fixed.
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If it happens on every single rom you you installed, then apparently this is a hardware fault.
What "Base" do the Roms, you installed, created on?!
I mean based on what version of RUU?
same problem here.
I mis the "power saving mode" options like in android 2.3
It might idd have something to do with power savings mode kicking in.
My LGOG E970 is overheating when I put it on my pocket and the battery is discharging very fast. Using the headphones I noticed that it was getting unlocked because it was dialing.
I configured pattern lock and the power button now instantly locks also quad core eco mode is on. However the phone still overheats.
I suspect that the power button is constantly pressed when in the pocket and the screen keeps turning on. This brings me to my question: Is there a way to use two button unlock on this device? Like pressing power and then volume up to turn the screen on.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
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Hello jaimesilva, saludos from a Venezolano.
I'm not aware of a two button unlock feature on the device. However, it shouldn't be overheating just because of having the screen on. I have used my phone for long times and it didn't overheat.
A few things to look at are: Applications, you could have a buggy app that is doing an intensive loop task that is draining and pushing your processor very hard.
Cell signal, check that you have good reception, sometimes when it finds a network but has trouble communicating to it, it falls into a loop of connecting/error. The other day I went to an indoor expo and it surprised me to see that in around 30 minutes it went from 60% to 30%, OVERHEATED too. I activated airplane mode and it stopped.
If nothing seems to fix it, do a factory reset, it will delete all your data and applications, backup everything and then start adding applications slowly day by day and you will be able to narrow it down to what app is causing it if the problem comes back. If not, it might be a defective unit.
Good luck.
This is no longer needed! The bug is fixed with the new quattrimus and the Wind kernels... and probably an upcoming official one as well. 3-30-13
This is for those of you on CM10.1 (or ROMs based on it) who use wifi and need a way to work around the Wifi battery draining bug. If you didn't know, the wifi bug will cause your device to lose power at at rate of 6-10% per hour while just sitting idle with wifi turned on. This is aggravating for those of us who use wifi a lot and are used to just leaving it on because normally wifi uses LESS power than other connections!
I was formerly using DS Battery Saver or Green Power to toggle my connections, but I like the following method better because it is a bit smarter (you'll see what I mean). Also, sometimes those connection toggler apps would screw up my autosyncing and messages wouldn't show up for hours.
I tried the wifi timeout hack, which kind of sucked because wifi still stayed on in areas with no wifi.
After trying a ton of apps and combinations of apps, I've found a solution that works pretty well. Here it is:
1) Install the app "Better Wifi On/Off" by Sven Knispel
2) Open it up and hit the settings button. Put a check on "Expert Mode", then back out of the settings and go back in.
3) Place check marks next to the following settings options only:
- Enable when user turns wifi on
- Start on boot
- On when screen unlocked
- On when plugged in
- Only if connected
- If wakelock is held
- If network activity
- If plugged in
- Off when unplugged
- Off when screen off
4) Now find the option marked 'Delay - Time to wait before checking Wifi status' and set it to 10s. 0s may also work well, but I haven't tested it.
5) Profit.
*If you have problems with the program stopping, you can go back into Settings and put a check on 'Run as foreground service'.
**The program has a widget you can add to a homescreen so you can quickly disable/enable it if you have to.
With this setup, Wifi simply turns on when I need it and automatically turns off when I don't. It checks for traffic and won't kill the connection until your download or stream is done. It checks for access points, and if there are none available it turns wifi off... something that DSBS and other similar apps don't do all that well.
I'm getting battery life similar to if I had DSBS, Juice Defender or Green Power running- but I never lose autosync and nothing is ever delayed, because mobile data never turns off. I tested my hotspot function and it worked just fine with no interference.
Hope this helps until (if) we ever get a real fix for the wifi drain bug.
I'm not sure if I had something set wrong or it was an interaction with another program or something else, but I tried it and it locked up my phone hard. Not even the buttons light or feedback goes off but no screen. Had to use the hold power to reset.
I hope they're able to get the power issues taken care of in CM10. With the newer nightlies and the wind kernel it's honestly about as stable as CM9 for me. Power usage is my only major issue now.
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I'm not sure if I had something set wrong or it was an interaction with another program or something else, but I tried it and it locked up my phone hard. Not even the buttons light or feedback goes off but no screen. Had to use the hold power to reset.
I hope they're able to get the power issues taken care of in CM10. With the newer nightlies and the wind kernel it's honestly about as stable as CM9 for me. Power usage is my only major issue now.
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Yeah it must have been something else at play- the above app doesn't really do anything unusual that would cause a hang. It's been doing well for me today- I've been using my phone pretty steady since 7am and I'm at 40% battery (now almost 4pm). I'm currently on miroslav_mm's CM10.1 build.
Anyone notice problems with the NY Times app recently? I noticed some high network activity out of my Note Pro over the last few days, and dug into it last night. Turned out, my tablet never went to deep sleep, and looking at battery usage, the NY Times app was behind only the OS and System.
I can't uninstall the NY Times, but I can revert to the factory image, and that seems to have put a halt to the network activity, and also the tablet is now going into deep sleep again. So it looks like it was an app update, somewhere along the way?
What's deep sleep as opposed to sleep as opposed to going into airplane mode?? Your posting about the ny times and sleep is difficult to understand.
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Anyone notice problems with the NY Times app recently? I noticed some high network activity out of my Note Pro over the last few days, and dug into it last night. Turned out, my tablet never went to deep sleep, and looking at battery usage, the NY Times app was behind only the OS and System.
I can't uninstall the NY Times, but I can revert to the factory image, and that seems to have put a halt to the network activity, and also the tablet is now going into deep sleep again. So it looks like it was an app update, somewhere along the way?
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What's deep sleep as opposed to sleep as opposed to going into airplane mode?? Your posting about the ny times and sleep is difficult to understand.
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Not difficult to understand at all, this is apparently a wake lock issue with the application.
Tapping the power button to turn off the screen puts the device in sleep mode but CPU speed still varies as background activity continues. Application processes can place wake locks on the CPU to keep it from going into deep sleep which is the lowest power consumption setting. A device that never goes into deep sleep will experience higher battery drain with the screen off for extended periods than one that does go into deep sleep. Sleep has nothing to do with airplane mode, which turns off all radios and has no direct impact on CPU.
First thing I would try with the NY Times app is turn off all notifications for it. Personally I don't use it and have it frozen so I can't verify the wake lock issue on my device.
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First thing I would try with the NY Times app is turn off all notifications for it. Personally I don't use it and have it frozen so I can't verify the wake lock issue on my device.
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Much better explanation than I could have given, thanks! So wish I could root my tablet (a Verizon...), feel like I'm trying to debug things with both hands tied behind my back!
So far, the NYT problem hasn't come back - can't freeze or uninstall it without root, but have removed it from Magazine UI and basically backed out all updates by restoring it to its factory image and clearing its data. BTW, it was set to only get updates every 4 hours. Obviously it had a different idea.
Yeah I hate it when apps get like that.
It's times like that where I'll use Greenify sparingly to push the misbehaving app into hibernation. Otherwise I'll just let android do it's thing.
A few days ago, I noticed the NY Times app only it's you view 10 articles for free every month. I was going to say, why not trash that garbage? It requires root, though, since it's actually a system app. That is just profoundly stupid.
At least Samsung didn't pick CNN as it's news app, amirite?