I was thinking whether it is possible to have multi window mod for aosp roms.
Goodness of tw in aosp
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No...
multi window needs TW framework.
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No, its not possible yet. It has to be somehow written into the framework and nobody has created anything yet. There probably wont be unless Cyanogenmod, AOKP or ParanoidAndroid decide to incorporate the feature into there roms.
So unless Google decides to have multi windows in Nexus ,aosp will not get it..
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So unless Google decides to have multi windows in Nexus ,aosp will not get it..
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I highly doubt Google will ever even consider adding it to AOSP but it is very more likely for Cyanogenmod or AOKP to consider adding some variation of it to there roms, unless of course Samsung has some kind of bs licensing garbage or something like that on it.
Paranoid Android is supposedly going to add they're own version of multi-window named Halo soon, but looks nothing like the TW version. Closest thing to having in an AOSP ROM as of yet.
Link: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...exus-gsm-and-oppo-find-5-are-out-for-testing/
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Paranoid Android is supposedly going to add they're own version of multi-window named Halo soon, but looks nothing like the TW version. Closest thing to having in an AOSP ROM as of yet.
Link: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...exus-gsm-and-oppo-find-5-are-out-for-testing/
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Halo is not multi window, it's a notification system. Different idea and concept.
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CyanogenMod wanted to include cornerstone, a multiwindow mod, into CM9. Steve even had screenshots of it integrated and running here.
However, the Android team warned against it, stating that they want to give their app developers a consistent environment to test and run their apps.
Okay, let me please please beg you not to do this. I can guarantee you this introduces all kinds of application compatibility issues. We work really hard to give our developers a consistent environment where their apps will operate correctly across all the devices Market runs on, not being impacted by negative reviews from bad devices that they should not have to deal specially with.
If you start making your own distributions of Android behaving in such fundamentally different ways, I suspect we are going to need to start doing things to prevent you from impacting our app ecosystem. I'm not sure what, but I could imagine things such as restricting how users can interact with Market apps on these devices (not allowing reviews or such).
We have let a lot of things in this area slide -- for example to be allowed to include Market on your device you are supposed to fully pass CTS. However, if you start really diverging from the core Android platform (I would argue this takes you well into the realm of a fork rather than a customization) then some deep issues are going to come up about how we handle these custom builds.
We have been putting a lot of thought and work for a number of years into how to let Android applications run on increasingly diverse and dynamic screens. Doing this correctly, without impacting our app developers in a negative way, is a really challenging problem. I also think it is something that needs to be done at the mainline platform level, not as a customization, because doing it right is going to require new well defined interfaces with applications for them to interact with it, possibly starting with just a facility they need to use to opt in to it.
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Unfair... That'd had been the best feature in an AOSP rom by far.
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I know that the full touchwiz suite requires the touchwiz frameworks, and may be unfeasible (or even pointless, since you could just use a debloated stock) to port to AOKP/CM9, but the two most useful to me would be the camera and s-beam. the gestures i can do without, since they're just a slightly different way to do something you can do otherwise. i know that on some older phones, there have been porting efforts to move cameras and other things to aosp roms, and i was wondering how much effort it might take to port the sgs3 camera and s-beam. anyone looked in to it, or is there already a thread on another forum i missed somewhere?
No.
Those are the 2 things I miss from touchwiz, I love cm10 but wish the camera had a burst mode.
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Def would like to have the normal camera its way better then the aokp one
SAMSUNG GALAXY SIII
What about SmartStay and the motion gestures, any way to bring those over, or does an equivalent have to be written from the ground up?
Until our Devs start working on AOSP builds from source, there won't be much luck here. But I'm not going to doubt the possibility that our Devs will get the jobs done.
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Just be willing to be patient. I'm sure in half a year, we'll see much more support.
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What is the point of using cyanogenmod over stock? I've tried researching for a answer and nothing comes up. Does anyone care to explain what all the hype about cyanogenmod and using it over stock + root
Like per say if it improves overall proformence of the s3 on a battery and stability basis then ill be sold to give it a try
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Hmm well the major benefit is getting to use AOSP. Which is stock android as google intended (ie like the galaxy nexus), none of the samsung touchwiz stuff. Other benefit for now being that its jellybean. Im sure people here can come up with a laundry list of reasons for why cm is better than stock but those are the two main that would probably come into anyones head.
its straight build from the android source, no touchwiz sense etc.. a google experience lol
Those and a whack of in-built customization at your disposal
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For the sheer thrill of it. Because you can. To experiment and learn. I allot of times don't need to know nothing about an OS to at least try it. People waste hundreds of man hours to create this stuff. Try it out. See what they spent all their time to create. Happy hacking!
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Reasons I use any ROM over stock (features vary ROM to ROM)
Change songs with Volume rocker
Built in WiFi tethering
No Bloatware
There are other things I look for in a ROM but unfortunately CM does not include any of those (e.g. app password lock built into system and cannot be removed)
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What is the point of using cyanogenmod over stock? I've tried researching for a answer and nothing comes up. Does anyone care to explain what all the hype about cyanogenmod and using it over stock + root
Like per say if it improves overall proformence of the s3 on a battery and stability basis then ill be sold to give it a try
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Plus Cyanogen you can customize it more than stock, just little things, like navigation bar, which I don't use, just an example.
Yup haha, loving cm10 no issues at all loving every moment of it cm>touchwiz
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My story, I had the original Galaxy S Captivate from AT&T and as my contract was close to running out I decided to finally put a custom ROM on my phone since it was slow getting updated. After a while I ended up with CM. It was a huge improvement over the old stock rom (even with the updates they had managed to get out). Fast forward to this weekend I finally bit the bullet and decided to upgrade to a new phone so I got an S3. My first thought upon turning on the phone was "omg this is terrible!".
Samsung's touch wiz basically is where they take the newest versions of Android and try to force it to work like the older version (presumably so that all their phones work the same). So the first thing I did on getting home is spend time getting CM installed on it and I haven't looked back. You lose some of the Samsung apps but most of them are useless anyway but you gain a better experience.
http://phandroid.com/2012/11/13/android-4-2-jelly-bean-aosp/
I'm curious how the new toggles in 4.2 will be handled in cm10 and aokp after the source code has been added to each rom.
私は神の罰です。
Android 4.2 is getting the OTA treatment from the powers that be. We eagerly await the source to hit the AOSP repos. When it does, we will begin the task of defining what is new, what has changed, and what CM features should stay (or go). We already anticipate removing the CM enhancements to the Clock app (Google made their own), and enhancing the Quick Settings (most likely not porting over the Notification Power Widgets). However, these assessments are preliminary, and won't be finalized until MR1, or whatever tag is used, has the source to go with it.
Edit: Oh and yes, before its asked, 4.2 will be CM 10.1 (not CM11).
just wait and see
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Like the person above me said, they'll get rid of a lot of stuff that is now useless since it's baked into Android. Obviously something built by the Android team and baked into Android has lees possibility of crashing or making issues in the future than if it was put on top of Android like we're doing right now for notification power widgets.
Regardless of how it goes, I can't wait for Sbrissen to release 4.2 AOSP, and then development will take off from there.
*crosses fingers*
Man I can't wait hope all goes well!
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Like the person above me said, they'll get rid of a lot of stuff that is now useless since it's baked into Android. Obviously something built by the Android team and baked into Android has lees possibility of crashing or making issues in the future than if it was put on top of Android like we're doing right now for notification power widgets.
Regardless of how it goes, I can't wait for Sbrissen to release 4.2 AOSP, and then development will take off from there.
*crosses fingers*
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I've grown to love the quick reply from CM. Sbrissen is a monster tho and definitely check out his AOSP build of 4.2
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I've grown to love the quick reply from CM. Sbrissen is a monster tho and definitely check out his AOSP build of 4.2
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Wait, what? Don't you mean 4.1?
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Really all I've seen significant is the 4.2 camera which I have along with all the 4.2 gapps on my 4.1.2 king kang build
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Really all I've seen significant is the 4.2 camera which I have along with all the 4.2 gapps on my 4.1.2 king kang build
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Well i think that 4.2 has quick settings in the pulldown, lockscreen widgets built in, and not really sure what else, something about group MMS in the messaging app. Go check out the gNex Dev forums and the stock 4.2 ROMs.
I'm not suggesting you flash them, but you can still read about the features.
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Really all I've seen significant is the 4.2 camera which I have along with all the 4.2 gapps on my 4.1.2 king kang build
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I hear you, But...
I think that since we have all seen 90% of what JB can do on our phones on these custom roms, the upgrades dont seem like much to us. There is a much larger audience out there than us and that is who they are trying to WOW. They just use us to help figure out what mistakes they are making
Also system wide font tweaks...
I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?
Something I saw while working in the s2 board with my wife's phone was a rom with a touchwhiz base and the aokp rom control features added, I personally would love something like that
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TL;DR... I agree on the new rom idea lol. And I *****ed and moaned about the roms we have all in relativity are too damn close to each other. But I still respect their hard work, and praise them all as they are doing things I wish I could do.
I wish I had the knowledge and computer strong enough to do this kinda work, I would've had the rom up and running so long ago lol... I used my phone to get most of it working. building sounds and apps into a rom little things here and there just started to break I gave up.
This would be my ultimate DD never have to flash a rom again. I absolutely despise the "nature" that Samsung built in to this phone.
We have about 3 sounds mods everyone focuses on, some cameras and Keyboards people build into the rom, some awesome themes I'm extremely happy with. I would really like a TW rom with all AOSP sounds instead of the water drops and stuff. Camera from TW, LockScreen from AOSP, Notification and Status bar options from AOKP, 4.2 little things here and there as options.
Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate what our guys do in the Dev section.
I miss the devs that worked on those kinda things. We have great guys here (I might get [email protected] for this one) but in general they all seem to be adding the same things; Acid, Beats, Walkman music, removing other Samsung Apps while others keep them. They all leave bloat like LTETest, and LTEsettings in the /system/app folder. I could keep going and going. Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate them again. But where are the old roms like we used to get (mentioned above) we had some great stuff in the G2X also. We had roms that had custom lockscreens to launchers and all sorts of neat things I would've never expected. Maybe it's time I stop helping the stupids and save up and get a new computer with the power to build roms as well. (I won't release them to people though lol)
i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do
I am in the process of developing a ROM. Nothing solid yet. I really do agree with keeping the stability and features of stock with some aosp features. At least for me I'll be a start with dev work. I have a Mac so I've already downloaded xcode and working and following dxsidia as guide. It'll take me a while since I work 10 hour shifts at the hospital and also do some website dev on the side.
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I'm glad to see people wanting to work on this. I believe it will make a great DD. It seems I'm one of the few that really like the touchwiz launcher and Widgets, but I ask you to please include that in the rom. People can easily download the other launchers from the market.
I agree, anything that is downloadable from the market should stay there. It's great that you can include something in a rom, but so can simply pressing the install button. Any thing that is already a flashable .zip (like beats) or (acId sounds mod) should stay as a flashable .zip. Just my opinion.
In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.
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In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.
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Ya, that's pretty close to what we're talking about here. I think I flashed that rom a while back now that you point it out. I'm sure we will get something soon.
This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do
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Damn... I am 41 years old and I love electronic toys. You are making me feel very old. Well young'n, when you get a rom together let me know. I have tested for a couple of devs and understand how to run a logcat. I did a little theme work on the musty trusty HD2. I know a little bit, but run a family business plus I'm back at night school taking care of some unfinished business but I am happy to help.
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This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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That would be nice execpt it don't have inverted AOSP lockscreen,contacts,dialer, and messenger.
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I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?
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dude, you totally can.
easiest way, though, would be to disable your lockscreen and try out widget locker or something like that.
as far as the inverted apps go, i would hit up some of the guys in the themes and apps section. wouldn't take very long to whip something like that up... hell, even the lockscreen wouldn't take very long to modify.
why CM chooses to build from the source of another device is beyond me. it would be much easier to customize the layout/UI, parameters, and make it functional with the firmware meant for this thing, and you would keep all the functionality of TW.
anyways, yeah.
There is this great divide feeling as I've been playing with my new S3, and it really brings homage to the Linux scene (compare: xfce vs kde vs gnome, etc.).
Though I've settled on TouchWiz for now, there are some things I wish were an option and not "just the way it is".
I finally got kitchen working on my Mac. Got a base up and will hopefully be able to post it later. This is my plan since we be seen this throughout. People want stability of stock and those who love tw features will love this. I will be implementing aroma installer later when I get that injected. I've only built a ROM before for myself but never posted it. It'll be theme free and since it'll be stock most stock themes should work. I basically want people to do the work on their own. If they want to add volume mods like beats , they should flash it on their own . This is an experiment to get my foot out there and I'd love the support. Any name suggestions. ??
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Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.
Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.
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I saw something like this is the play store like 6 months ago that worked really similar. I can't remember the name
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Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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Very very difficult from what I hear. Took big of a feat for me.
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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What about using an 4.2 launcher and some status bar tweaks.
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I'd like to introduce my first published ROM to the community.
-What is Infinity about?
The purpose of this ROM is for those who don't care much about dealing with bugs and waiting for updates or tweaks to get a daily driver. My project is to keep this as stock as possible because I believe that the touchwiz features are awesome. I'd like to keep the mods to a minimum to maintain functionality and keep the ROM as bug free as possible. Infinity fits perfectly as the name of this ROM as it allows YOU, the user, to make infinite choices to how you want your phone to feel and act like. While I am the chef, I feel its your resposibility to chose the themes and mods ypud like to add as you see fit.
- who this ROM is not for?
This ROM is not for those who are here to flame others or rudely criticize my work. While I accept suggestions and constructive criticism , I will not allow rudeness. Please feel free to post questions or concerns here as I may not ever get to my PMs. Enjoy.
Download instructions:
*download to SD
*backup ROM
*flash in recovery using favorite recovery method
If coming from another ROM I'd recommend wiping data . If coming from stock id still recommend wiping data but your willing to try and dirty flash.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for the sudden death of your phone if you flash this wrong or flash mods not compatible with this.
Download here:
Infinity version 1.1(12/9/12)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/infinityv1/files/Infinity_v1.1.zip/download
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Changelog:
V1:
**Based of Samsung official jb firmware
**Rooted
**Zipaligned
**Deodexed
**Ciq removed-- let me know if you find more
**Stock kernel- custom kernels should be compatible
**Debloated
More....
V1.1
**Added advanced power menu --special thanks to mikhail_08 for the great help.
**Cleaned up additional bloat
**Init.d support added
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Mods:
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never mind.. i read the OP again
but i would still love to see some screen shots even though it's stock touchwiz themed
Nice new toys!!!
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Will flash tonight! As long as you are working towards including AOSP lockscreen, contacts, and messenger, I will stick with you the whole way. As far as the power mods, can you include screenshot? I know you can hold power and home, its just easier if its in the power menu.
Running very fast and smooth so far. Did you take out the calendar widget? The app for it is there but no widget.
Awesome. Thanks for the feedback so far. Uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident. I will work on it tonight. Still at work. For now. You can push the calendar widget apk into system settings. Screenshot in power menu should be next then I assume. hopefully I get some time tonight if the wife does the come a call in'. I'll get some screenies also. I'd also recommend using faux stock kernel in the other thread for a boost. Been reading some good things about his mainline edition.
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Speaking of widgets. Are there any others from stock that you guys prefer to have back. I took out some of the bloat ones to free up some space. I did also remove a few live wallpapers since I don't personally use them.
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Will flash tonight! As long as you are working towards including AOSP lockscreen, contacts, and messenger, I will stick with you the whole way. As far as the power mods, can you include screenshot? I know you can hold power and home, its just easier if its in the power menu.
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I have always envied team kang and their stock build since it includes lock screen options. I may have to call upon them and see if they'll assist me in my pursuit of aosp options. Ive youve ever used the sgs2 and the Juggernaut ROM you'd know how awesome the ROM control option was.
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I have always envied team kang and their stock build since it includes lock screen options. I may have to call upon them and see if they'll assist me in my pursuit of aosp options. Ive youve ever used the sgs2 and the Juggernaut ROM you'd know how awesome the ROM control option was.
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Best rom from back in the day
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There's so much to say but trying to be respectful at the same time. Grrrrrrr. Do you really know what you're doing, or do you only understand the basics and know how to make a flashable zip rom? I'm being serious and not trying to be a ****... its just it seems like a.... pointless thread/rom... as of now. Of course when it can be a AOSP/TW ROM that's awesome, but now???!!! Just seems not very important. Again not trying to be a jerk, just speaking my mind.
You saying "uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident" makes me want to not flash the ROM, I understand trial and error but, that should be done before publicizing your work. I'm an A-Hole and this and that so be it, criticism sucks.
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There's so much to say but trying to be respectful at the same time. Grrrrrrr. Do you really know what you're doing, or do you only understand the basics and know how to make a flashable zip rom? I'm being serious and not trying to be a ****... its just it seems like a.... pointless thread/rom... as of now. Of course when it can be a AOSP/TW ROM that's awesome, but now???!!! Just seems not very important. Again not trying to be a jerk, just speaking my mind.
You saying "uh. I probably took the calendar widget out on accident" makes me want to not flash the ROM, I understand trial and error but, that should be done before publicizing your work. I'm an A-Hole and this and that so be it, criticism sucks.
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No I understand where you're coming from. My haste to get this out there superceeded my common sense. Also my poor word choice also can be a fault in people not wanting to try this. I am not completely new at this. Although I am not alone in creating a ROM using the kitchen. That is the difference between "original" android development in this forum and "android development". A few ROMs I've seen in this section were probably made using the kitchen ad out does the basic for you. The rest is actually knowing Smali and baksmali, compiling and dwcompiling of XML files and such. That isy weakness as I have to search countless forums and guides to find out how to do it in my own. Everyone started somewhere. As much as I want to pull this ROM now I feel I should be more careful in what I say and how I add mods and test them. I know nowadays people seek the ROMs that are "flashy" and have tons of features but it comes at a price. I am not just building for people but foe fun and foe myself. I do run my roms and therefore don't want to brick my own device. I appreciate the criticism as you are probably saying what others don't. Its all part of the learning process. On the other hand, there are plenty of awesome ROMs to choose from.
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No I understand where you're coming from. My haste to get this out there superceeded my common sense. Also my poor word choice also can be a fault in people not wanting to try this. I am not completely new at this. Although I am not alone in creating a ROM using the kitchen. That is the difference between "original" android development in this forum and "android development". A few ROMs I've seen in this section were probably made using the kitchen ad out does the basic for you. The rest is actually knowing Smali and baksmali, compiling and dwcompiling of XML files and such. That isy weakness as I have to search countless forums and guides to find out how to do it in my own. Everyone started somewhere. As much as I want to pull this ROM now I feel I should be more careful in what I say and how I add mods and test them. I know nowadays people seek the ROMs that are "flashy" and have tons of features but it comes at a price. I am not just building for people but foe fun and foe myself. I do run my roms and therefore don't want to brick my own device. I appreciate the criticism as you are probably saying what others don't. Its all part of the learning process. On the other hand, there are plenty of awesome ROMs to choose from.
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and you sir have earned my utmost respect, as you called me out exactly how I felt adn few others that have have PM'd me. I'm looking greatly forward to your JB TW/ AOSP rom and so are others. I'm extremely happy the way you took it all sir. and I will gladly test/ tell others how your rom feels. In a an honest matter obviously, but only as you start implementing heavily the CM/AOSP features.
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and you sir have earned my utmost respect, as you called me out exactly how I felt adn few others that have have PM'd me. I'm looking greatly forward to your JB TW/ AOSP rom and so are others. I'm extremely happy the way you took it all sir. and I will gladly test/ tell others how your rom feels. In a an honest matter obviously, but only as you start implementing heavily the CM/AOSP features.
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Thanks man. The journey will be long and difficult. Again I appreciate everyone's patience. I have some time tonight to mess around with some code. I believe I have the power menu figured out. And I wanted to ask. Do you guys prefer lidroid toggles which are customizable or something else. I preferably like the stock ones but something customizable could be added as a zip instead of a default. That is why I'd like to really dig into aroma which would allow maximum user customization but its gonna take more than one night of studying the tutorial and testing. I'll add back the calendar and hopefully have advanced power menu up. No eta yet.
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crt-on or crt-off would be nice!
Smooth rom bro! Glad to have another developer in the s3 forums. Request: black status bar and I hope the rom will keep a stock look
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I believe options in aroma would be the way to go. I personally would like the 15 toggle mod built in. I totally understand that you are learning as you go, i am just thankful to have someone working on this. After you put the calendar back in (lol) and add the basic power mods and such, i would be cool with you adding AOSP features one at a time. That would also help with testing.