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What is the point of using cyanogenmod over stock? I've tried researching for a answer and nothing comes up. Does anyone care to explain what all the hype about cyanogenmod and using it over stock + root
Like per say if it improves overall proformence of the s3 on a battery and stability basis then ill be sold to give it a try
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Hmm well the major benefit is getting to use AOSP. Which is stock android as google intended (ie like the galaxy nexus), none of the samsung touchwiz stuff. Other benefit for now being that its jellybean. Im sure people here can come up with a laundry list of reasons for why cm is better than stock but those are the two main that would probably come into anyones head.
its straight build from the android source, no touchwiz sense etc.. a google experience lol
Those and a whack of in-built customization at your disposal
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For the sheer thrill of it. Because you can. To experiment and learn. I allot of times don't need to know nothing about an OS to at least try it. People waste hundreds of man hours to create this stuff. Try it out. See what they spent all their time to create. Happy hacking!
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Reasons I use any ROM over stock (features vary ROM to ROM)
Change songs with Volume rocker
Built in WiFi tethering
No Bloatware
There are other things I look for in a ROM but unfortunately CM does not include any of those (e.g. app password lock built into system and cannot be removed)
T3hBraveBoss said:
What is the point of using cyanogenmod over stock? I've tried researching for a answer and nothing comes up. Does anyone care to explain what all the hype about cyanogenmod and using it over stock + root
Like per say if it improves overall proformence of the s3 on a battery and stability basis then ill be sold to give it a try
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Plus Cyanogen you can customize it more than stock, just little things, like navigation bar, which I don't use, just an example.
Yup haha, loving cm10 no issues at all loving every moment of it cm>touchwiz
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My story, I had the original Galaxy S Captivate from AT&T and as my contract was close to running out I decided to finally put a custom ROM on my phone since it was slow getting updated. After a while I ended up with CM. It was a huge improvement over the old stock rom (even with the updates they had managed to get out). Fast forward to this weekend I finally bit the bullet and decided to upgrade to a new phone so I got an S3. My first thought upon turning on the phone was "omg this is terrible!".
Samsung's touch wiz basically is where they take the newest versions of Android and try to force it to work like the older version (presumably so that all their phones work the same). So the first thing I did on getting home is spend time getting CM installed on it and I haven't looked back. You lose some of the Samsung apps but most of them are useless anyway but you gain a better experience.
I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?
Something I saw while working in the s2 board with my wife's phone was a rom with a touchwhiz base and the aokp rom control features added, I personally would love something like that
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TL;DR... I agree on the new rom idea lol. And I *****ed and moaned about the roms we have all in relativity are too damn close to each other. But I still respect their hard work, and praise them all as they are doing things I wish I could do.
I wish I had the knowledge and computer strong enough to do this kinda work, I would've had the rom up and running so long ago lol... I used my phone to get most of it working. building sounds and apps into a rom little things here and there just started to break I gave up.
This would be my ultimate DD never have to flash a rom again. I absolutely despise the "nature" that Samsung built in to this phone.
We have about 3 sounds mods everyone focuses on, some cameras and Keyboards people build into the rom, some awesome themes I'm extremely happy with. I would really like a TW rom with all AOSP sounds instead of the water drops and stuff. Camera from TW, LockScreen from AOSP, Notification and Status bar options from AOKP, 4.2 little things here and there as options.
Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate what our guys do in the Dev section.
I miss the devs that worked on those kinda things. We have great guys here (I might get [email protected] for this one) but in general they all seem to be adding the same things; Acid, Beats, Walkman music, removing other Samsung Apps while others keep them. They all leave bloat like LTETest, and LTEsettings in the /system/app folder. I could keep going and going. Know I mean no disrespect and I do appreciate them again. But where are the old roms like we used to get (mentioned above) we had some great stuff in the G2X also. We had roms that had custom lockscreens to launchers and all sorts of neat things I would've never expected. Maybe it's time I stop helping the stupids and save up and get a new computer with the power to build roms as well. (I won't release them to people though lol)
i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do
I am in the process of developing a ROM. Nothing solid yet. I really do agree with keeping the stability and features of stock with some aosp features. At least for me I'll be a start with dev work. I have a Mac so I've already downloaded xcode and working and following dxsidia as guide. It'll take me a while since I work 10 hour shifts at the hospital and also do some website dev on the side.
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I'm glad to see people wanting to work on this. I believe it will make a great DD. It seems I'm one of the few that really like the touchwiz launcher and Widgets, but I ask you to please include that in the rom. People can easily download the other launchers from the market.
I agree, anything that is downloadable from the market should stay there. It's great that you can include something in a rom, but so can simply pressing the install button. Any thing that is already a flashable .zip (like beats) or (acId sounds mod) should stay as a flashable .zip. Just my opinion.
In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.
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In the ATT galaxy S3 forums, there is a rom called nexusmod reloaded that is close to what I am referring to. Its based on ics and I don't think it has inverted apps that we like.
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Ya, that's pretty close to what we're talking about here. I think I flashed that rom a while back now that you point it out. I'm sure we will get something soon.
This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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saranhai said:
i know the exactly what you guys need
here's a preview (the MyTouch 4G Version):
of course, instead of "Senseless" it would be "TouchWizLess"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440993
give me a couple weeks to really get to know this phone (and find time...high school life w00t) and i'll see what i can do
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Damn... I am 41 years old and I love electronic toys. You are making me feel very old. Well young'n, when you get a rom together let me know. I have tested for a couple of devs and understand how to run a logcat. I did a little theme work on the musty trusty HD2. I know a little bit, but run a family business plus I'm back at night school taking care of some unfinished business but I am happy to help.
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This is what I was talking about
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32805364
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That would be nice execpt it don't have inverted AOSP lockscreen,contacts,dialer, and messenger.
xallinvaynex said:
I have been battling back and forth between touchwiz roms and AOSP roms. . So if any developers are looking for a new rom to make, here is my idea (yes, i know it is not a new idea and has been done on many devices). What i would like to have is the stabilty and battery life of a UVDLJA rom including touchwiz launcher, with AOSP lockscreen, inverted AOSP contacts and messenger.I don't know if its possible, but could there be options for this using aroma in the touchwiz roms?
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dude, you totally can.
easiest way, though, would be to disable your lockscreen and try out widget locker or something like that.
as far as the inverted apps go, i would hit up some of the guys in the themes and apps section. wouldn't take very long to whip something like that up... hell, even the lockscreen wouldn't take very long to modify.
why CM chooses to build from the source of another device is beyond me. it would be much easier to customize the layout/UI, parameters, and make it functional with the firmware meant for this thing, and you would keep all the functionality of TW.
anyways, yeah.
There is this great divide feeling as I've been playing with my new S3, and it really brings homage to the Linux scene (compare: xfce vs kde vs gnome, etc.).
Though I've settled on TouchWiz for now, there are some things I wish were an option and not "just the way it is".
I finally got kitchen working on my Mac. Got a base up and will hopefully be able to post it later. This is my plan since we be seen this throughout. People want stability of stock and those who love tw features will love this. I will be implementing aroma installer later when I get that injected. I've only built a ROM before for myself but never posted it. It'll be theme free and since it'll be stock most stock themes should work. I basically want people to do the work on their own. If they want to add volume mods like beats , they should flash it on their own . This is an experiment to get my foot out there and I'd love the support. Any name suggestions. ??
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Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.
Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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AttachedSilver said:
Idk if this is possible but I always enjoyed the 7 recent apps by drop pulling the notification bar. Just my personal preference, don't really like the hold the home button to see the recent apps.
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I saw something like this is the play store like 6 months ago that worked really similar. I can't remember the name
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Quick question guys, how hard would it be to port a sense rom? I know if it were easy we would have a few, but just how hard is it?
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Very very difficult from what I hear. Took big of a feat for me.
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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I'd love to have a rom with the touchwiz look and all of its features that also has the features of cm10 or aokp
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What about using an 4.2 launcher and some status bar tweaks.
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I've seen posts like this for various projects of other devices so I figured I would give it a shot here.
If someone can get the Touchwiz camera apk (with the necessary touchwiz framework files) working on CM10 or AOSP, I will give them $20. The camera apk is literally the one thing preventing me from switching to CM10 or other AOSP/AOKP roms.
Everyone else is free to pitch in as well. Together, perhaps we can raise a worthwile & tempting bounty to encourage a skilled developer to get this working. If no one can do it, then we're not losing any money. If someone can pull it off, then it will be worth every penny. The Galaxy S II camera was ported to AOSP on the Fascinate so I believe this could be possible with the GS3.
Current bounty: $20.00
How about multi-view on CM 10/AOKP?
$100 and my sister.
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I've seen posts like this for various projects of other devices so I figured I would give it a shot here.
If someone can get the Touchwiz camera apk (with the necessary touchwiz framework files) working on CM10 or AOSP, I will give them $20. The camera apk is literally the one thing preventing me from switching to CM10 or other AOSP/AOKP roms.
Everyone else is free to pitch in as well. Together, perhaps we can raise a worthwile & tempting bounty to encourage a skilled developer to get this working. If no one can do it, then we're not losing any money. If someone can pull it off, then it will be worth every penny. The Galaxy S II camera was ported to AOSP on the Fascinate so I believe this could be possible with the GS3.
Current bounty: $20.00
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Put me down for another 20 US dollars, the stock Samsung camera is why I always go back to a TW ROM, but I would love to use AOKP.
Its probably possible to do but very very difficult as it needs tw framework. As anything is possible on android put me down for $20 as well. Stock cm/aokp camera is good and could never steer me away from cm/aokp roms but sammy cam would be an awesome addition!
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Krazex2005 said:
I have been working on this for the past three days, it's very easy, I accept no donations though. When it's finished I will create a thread for it.
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I love you
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That would be awesome.
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Krazex2005 said:
I have been working on this for the past three days, it's very easy, I accept no donations though. When it's finished I will create a thread for it.
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Seriously? You must be a genius! People have been trying to port the Sammy camera to CM for ever
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Krazex2005 said:
I have been working on this for the past three days, it's very easy, I accept no donations though. When it's finished I will create a thread for it.
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I smell BS
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Don't believe this is even remotely possible... But what do I know
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And his post disapears...dun dun dun
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For people wanting a similar camera to touch whiz in cm/AOKP.. procapture is pretty similar.
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For people wanting a similar camera to touch whiz in cm/AOKP.. procapture is pretty similar.
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But it looks like procapture does not allow video. My note 2 has the ability to pause and resume recordings without creating a separate file which is really nice and useful for me. Plus the fast/slow motion video to make some humorous/interesting recordings...
Would love a tw independent stock camera like app though...I guess I'll keep looking
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For people wanting a similar camera to touch whiz in cm/AOKP.. procapture is pretty similar.
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it is very nice, like above poster said, no video :crying: but it was pretty close to the TW camera in terms of use and feel.
Organized_Chaos said:
I've seen posts like this for various projects of other devices so I figured I would give it a shot here.
If someone can get the Touchwiz camera apk (with the necessary touchwiz framework files) working on CM10 or AOSP, I will give them $20. The camera apk is literally the one thing preventing me from switching to CM10 or other AOSP/AOKP roms.
Everyone else is free to pitch in as well. Together, perhaps we can raise a worthwile & tempting bounty to encourage a skilled developer to get this working. If no one can do it, then we're not losing any money. If someone can pull it off, then it will be worth every penny. The Galaxy S II camera was ported to AOSP on the Fascinate so I believe this could be possible with the GS3.
Current bounty: $20.00
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You will NOT believe this, but for months now I have been wanting to write a similar post like you did.
If not for the Touchwiz Camera and Gallery I would have switched to AOSP/AOPK/CM10 a long time ago too
The Touchwiz camera and Gallery are so much nicer, and have a lot more features and options and look
so much more professional the differences are like day and night!
One of the main selling points of our S3 phone is the excellent camera and gallery app!!!
Everytime I try AOSP/AOKP/CM10 the camera and gallery looks as if they are a home made BETA or a downgrade!!!
Good luck in your endeavor!!!
(I have been told it cannot be done but I don't believe it. )
Need this badly D:
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I smell BS
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Yep. A ton of it. Dude doesn't know what he's talking about.
well after his post I went to check his profile and looks he gets stumped with easy problems, so I doubt he has the skills needed
there is a video from a past android bbq where steve kondik (cyanogen) makes a presentation about cyanogenmod. You can find it somewhere on the internet. I advise you watch that to learn why the TW camera isn't functional with aosp.
If you want to learn to code, then you can check out the project called cornerstone, which is an open source multiview that was created for ics
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Franky_V said:
there is a video from a past android bbq where steve kondik (cyanogen) makes a presentation about cyanogenmod. You can find it somewhere on the internet. I advise you watch that to learn why the TW camera isn't functional with aosp.
If you want to learn to code, then you can check out the project called cornerstone, which is an open source multiview that was created for ics
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSdhvC0ExY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Like I said.... Not possible.
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a lot of money there and a sister for TwFrameWork porting looooooool you should make a real paypal jackpot for a challenge may be that way it will be done lol ...
nb : i don't know how to put a sister on paypal so don't ask hahahaha (just kidding).
nb 2 : it's not impossible to port that framework ! it just need a lot of work
nb 3 : done before on gb/ics (not all framework but most apps)
nb 4 : will try my chance on multiview for my next CM10.1 paranoid rom.
I have tried AOKP JB-MR1, Rootbox and another rom and all have laggy, force closed cameras. What's the deal? Why can't they just work like the touch wiz based roms. I love the features of android 4.2 but use my camera way too much to deal with hoping it's gonna work this time when I need it. Anybody else experiencing what I am? I tried CameraFx on those roms and it just wasn't as snappy with taking the picture.
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Wouldn't we all love it if devs can just pull perfect code out their @$$? .... besides the fact that AOKP, AOSP, CM, AOSPA are all a work in progress, stick with a daily you enjoy and be patient unless you want to keep testing out and help instead of complain about what's wrong... or... well, find a way to pull perfect code out of your own butt.
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I have tried AOKP JB-MR1, Rootbox and another rom and all have laggy, force closed cameras. What's the deal? Why can't they just work like the touch wiz based roms. I love the features of android 4.2 but use my camera way too much to deal with hoping it's gonna work this time when I need it. Anybody else experiencing what I am? I tried CameraFx on those roms and it just wasn't as snappy with taking the picture.
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Camera drivers are closed source. Telling the devs to get it to work properly is like telling a pediatrician to figure out how to perform brain surgery on a fish using only a toothpick. There's gonna be a lot of dead or retarded fish before he gets it right. He has only a vague idea where to start.
Wow guys.. Way to take what I said and blow it out of proportion. I wasn't complaining, I just stated what i noticed in hopes maybe someone else had the same thing and found alternative camera software via Google Play or ect to remedy the problem. Relax
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I have tried AOKP JB-MR1, Rootbox and another rom and all have laggy, force closed cameras. What's the deal? Why can't they just work like the touch wiz based roms. I love the features of android 4.2 but use my camera way too much to deal with hoping it's gonna work this time when I need it. Anybody else experiencing what I am? I tried CameraFx on those roms and it just wasn't as snappy with taking the picture.
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'What's the deal?' & '....to deal with hoping it's gonna work this time when I need it' = complaints...
'Anybody else experiencing what I am?' = your only legit question out of your post.
To answer that question, yes. And I'm sure it's being worked out. Whining about it will not make the fix come any faster is all we're saying. If you really do not think you're whining, proofread your post in someone else's perspective.
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I was thinking whether it is possible to have multi window mod for aosp roms.
Goodness of tw in aosp
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No...
multi window needs TW framework.
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No, its not possible yet. It has to be somehow written into the framework and nobody has created anything yet. There probably wont be unless Cyanogenmod, AOKP or ParanoidAndroid decide to incorporate the feature into there roms.
So unless Google decides to have multi windows in Nexus ,aosp will not get it..
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So unless Google decides to have multi windows in Nexus ,aosp will not get it..
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I highly doubt Google will ever even consider adding it to AOSP but it is very more likely for Cyanogenmod or AOKP to consider adding some variation of it to there roms, unless of course Samsung has some kind of bs licensing garbage or something like that on it.
Paranoid Android is supposedly going to add they're own version of multi-window named Halo soon, but looks nothing like the TW version. Closest thing to having in an AOSP ROM as of yet.
Link: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...exus-gsm-and-oppo-find-5-are-out-for-testing/
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Paranoid Android is supposedly going to add they're own version of multi-window named Halo soon, but looks nothing like the TW version. Closest thing to having in an AOSP ROM as of yet.
Link: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...exus-gsm-and-oppo-find-5-are-out-for-testing/
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Halo is not multi window, it's a notification system. Different idea and concept.
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CyanogenMod wanted to include cornerstone, a multiwindow mod, into CM9. Steve even had screenshots of it integrated and running here.
However, the Android team warned against it, stating that they want to give their app developers a consistent environment to test and run their apps.
Okay, let me please please beg you not to do this. I can guarantee you this introduces all kinds of application compatibility issues. We work really hard to give our developers a consistent environment where their apps will operate correctly across all the devices Market runs on, not being impacted by negative reviews from bad devices that they should not have to deal specially with.
If you start making your own distributions of Android behaving in such fundamentally different ways, I suspect we are going to need to start doing things to prevent you from impacting our app ecosystem. I'm not sure what, but I could imagine things such as restricting how users can interact with Market apps on these devices (not allowing reviews or such).
We have let a lot of things in this area slide -- for example to be allowed to include Market on your device you are supposed to fully pass CTS. However, if you start really diverging from the core Android platform (I would argue this takes you well into the realm of a fork rather than a customization) then some deep issues are going to come up about how we handle these custom builds.
We have been putting a lot of thought and work for a number of years into how to let Android applications run on increasingly diverse and dynamic screens. Doing this correctly, without impacting our app developers in a negative way, is a really challenging problem. I also think it is something that needs to be done at the mainline platform level, not as a customization, because doing it right is going to require new well defined interfaces with applications for them to interact with it, possibly starting with just a facility they need to use to opt in to it.
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Unfair... That'd had been the best feature in an AOSP rom by far.