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Hi,
all Rom threads have a rather big amount of discussions about battery life. It seems battery life varies between 8 hours to several days. Several reasons for this are addressed and one might check this first before anything else
1. Usage. If you use your phone you discharge it. Use it heavily with all whistle and bells turned on and you discharge it quickly.
2. Apps. Some apps like to phone home, sending or fetching frequently data. For some apps this is obvious. However, some might be hidding this or they are just bad programmed.
Using Powertutor and juiceplotter help to identify those battery eating apps. E. g., VoIP- or Mailclients, etc. are candidates being for battery sucking monsters.
3. Signal reception might make a different. The radio modules trying to minimize the sending power to save battery. If you put the phone in an box, bag or whatever the radio module might switch to a higher sending level to reach the cell tower.
In general you can't do much, simply choice "good" locations wherever possible.
4. Cell search and switching. Using a train or any other fast moving vehicle might require to switch very frequently between different cell towers. Every switch consumes power since data will be exchanged. If no cell signal is found the phone starts searching for one which consumes more power. Switch to flight mode if possible.
This are already steps which helps to safe a big chunk of the batteryand all this steps are completely rom independent.
In my opinion roms might contribute only to a small amount to the battery power. Maybe there is a buggy program or some settings are not optimized. However any more or less stable Rom should result in a rather similar battery life time.
Same is true for the kernel. Sure undervoltage, different schedulers, etc. might all change something regarding the power consumption. However this could not explain this very different reported battery life times. Its more in the range of +- 2 hours.
I know it was discussed sometimes already. I believe that some reported battery problems are due to a wrong combination of libs and settings for the used radio module.
Many people upgraded to the newest radio, however the local carrier might slightly modified settings to there specific needs. Furthermore, the might use a special tailored library enhanced by functions for there particular network.
This was given, at least for the Japanese carrier Softbank.
build.prop contains some special calls and a look into the library libhtc_ril show corresponding functions.
If roms carrier a different version of libhtc_ril and does not call settings in build.prop people on the particular carrier might observe battery drains.
Even worth the present situation creates random combination of radio firmware, build.prop, and libhtc_ril.
What might be needed is a installation routine for a Rom, which is capable to modify and replace above mentioned files for the given carrier.
I know that this would work since I'm doing it manually every time I install a different rom.
Would be glad to hear other opinions on this topic.
sure, the use of my phone make different battery drain but with the same use, this same battery drain change with the rom installed in this same phone! and the radio or the kernel of this same rom can make also difference in the battery drain (cf DeFroST for exemple...) with a scale between 8 and 20 hours!!! so i think the rom have a lot importance in battery drain ;-)
Hi,
I think one has to differentiate between an potential bug in a rom which might drain the battery and a "stable" rom.
From the technical point you can tweak rom and kernel to the max but this would never result in 4 times longer battery.
I would not say thay you can't get a kernel highly optimized for performance which might drain much more. However, in general all roms come with power-savvy kernels the small differences between those kernels could in my opinion not make such a big differences.
Same is well known for laptops. Sure a stock kernel might drain faster but even if I tweak out the very last options in the kernel settings I could never improve battery life time by 400%. That would be instead of 2 hours my laptop would suddenly hold 8 or more hours.
I belive the same is true to roms. There are some which emphase light the use of light apps and avoid animations and other battery eating eye candy. However, it can't result in an difference of 3-4 times, unlike something is simply wrong within the rom.
The main point is, nobody seems to give attention to the different modifications different carriers introduce in stock roms.
Thus, using a rom for which libs and settings come originally from T-mobile UK might fail heavily for Softbank Japan, or Verizon US.
What would be needed is
1. Awareness of the different carrier-based settings.
2. An application which is capable to modify and replace the mentioned files specific for the used carrier.
Definitely,the battery life should be associated with ROM.The models of running ROM are different-----how the SD card works..
At this point I think we can only speculate since the LTE variant isn't out yet, but does anyone know if there would be a significant difference in battery life between the two? I know the LTE radio would probably draw more power, but I'm more concerned with the dual/quad processor difference.
Considering the LTE being built into the S4, that will help with some battery drain. And some people are speculating that the S4 will have better battery life than the t3 despite the whole companion core thing. So I think they will probably be very similar. I think it's a matter of firmware updates regarding battery life.
All speculation of course.
I dont start Polls every but I think that this one is important because why would HTC not release new official firmwares in the near and distant future that improves battery life?
I really don't know if this is a joke or if its fact, see thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610951
Another link: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...pdate-coming-to-improve-one-x-battery-1076825
I really will be surpised if people dont react to this, how would you react? Would you not at the very least send them a long pissed of email?
For some this is perhaps nothing, but I think battery life is the most important thing and is it not obvious why?
(THIS POLL WAS NOT MEANT TO MAKE PEOPLE EAT THEIR OWN FINGERS, IT WAS MEANT TO SIMPLY PUT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS TOGETHER AND MAYBE BE NOTICED BY HTC, WHO KNOWS?)
I think you're getting the wrong idea from the HTC statement. It isn't that they're not going to focus on battery life but more that the current One X battery life is how it should be. There isn't a quick fix available by moving the now known to be useless nVidia app into the correct directory. As the article states, they've already done some fixes to the screen autobrightness which should help with battery life and the flickering.
This is just a PR exercise for them to minimise the outrage and misunderstanding about that specific nVidia app. They're still a manufacturer who makes battery powered devices i.e. phones so they're still going to be concerned about battery life.
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I think you're getting the wrong idea from the HTC statement. It isn't that they're not going to focus on battery life but more that the current One X battery life is how it should be. There isn't a quick fix available by moving the now known to be useless nVidia app into the correct directory.
This is just a PR exercise for them to minimise the outrage and misunderstanding about that specific nVidia app.
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I have a hard time accepting that this is what the battery life SHOULD be, because the 1X houses the Tegra 3 which is suppose to be the big game changer and reaaaaaally make the battery last. I am fine with my 1X but I cant believe that this is the way the battery life will be forever. I mean look at my Samsung Galaxy S2 it can go 3 DAYS strong before it dies (Amoled bla bla) this is where Tegra 3 comes in and the 1800mah battery.
Cheers.
Nice poll options, could only have been better if you had added (pick this one) and (don't pick this one)...
Useless...
HTC-Gunge said:
Nice poll options, could only have been better if you had added (pick this one) and (don't pick this one)...
Useless...
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Why not give me some pointers instead of just saying some **** and then useless?
I wrote that I dont normally start polls.
I just wrote whatever but options are pretty clear aren't they?
Besides if you cant contribute to the issue at hand then you shouldn't write anything you are just flaming.
Johnny0906 said:
I have a hard time accepting that this is what the battery life SHOULD be, because the 1X houses the Tegra 3 which is suppose to be the big game changer and reaaaaaally make the battery last. I am fine with my 1X but I cant believe that this is the way the battery life will be forever. I mean look at my Samsung Galaxy S2 it can go 3 DAYS strong before it dies (Amoled bla bla) this is where Tegra 3 comes in and the 1800mah battery.
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The Tegra CPU does have that extra low speed low power core but the problem with the One X battery is when you're actually actively using it. During those times, the CPU will most likely have the other 4 cores running and the power hungry LCD + backlight will also be on. If I'm not really using the One X then the battery is great but thats because it is mostly asleep running on that low power core. If I'm playing a game then the battery drains alarmingly quickly.
Before you claim that I'm just following HTC blindly, I would like to state that I would appreciate better battery life as the One X isn't amazing in that regard. I just don't think that HTC are going to completely ignore battery life in their firmware as you originally stated. They'll do what they can but there isn't a 20% increase hiding in there just by moving that specific nVidia app. There might be gains in there from altering the voltages or frequency scaling.
One thing which HTC have stated and does directly affect the One X along with its battery life is that they did studies where consumers preferred a thin phone. This puts massive restrictions on what battery you can use and whether it is removeable. I'm not sure the value of the studies they did since everybody is going to say that they want a thin phone.
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The Tegra CPU does have that extra low speed low power core but the problem with the One X battery is when you're actually actively using it. During those times, the CPU will most likely have the other 4 cores running and the power hungry LCD + backlight will also be on. If I'm not really using the One X then the battery is great but thats because it is mostly asleep running on that low power core. If I'm playing a game then the battery drains alarmingly quickly.
Before you claim that I'm just following HTC blindly, I would like to state that I would appreciate better battery life as the One X isn't amazing in that regard. I just don't think that HTC are going to completely ignore battery life in their firmware as you originally stated. They'll do what they can but there isn't a 20% increase hiding in there just by moving that specific nVidia app. There might be gains in there from altering the voltages or frequency scaling.
One thing which HTC have stated and does directly affect the One X along with its battery life is that they did studies where consumers preferred a thin phone. This puts massive restrictions on what battery you can use and whether it is removeable. I'm not sure the value of the studies they did since everybody is going to say that they want a thin phone.
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See this is not what im saying that some of us follow HTC blindly, what I meant is exactly what I wrote, 'if you knew this to be as a fact' how would you react?
Cheers.
Johnny0906 said:
See this is not what im saying that some of us follow HTC blindly, what I meant is exactly what I wrote, 'if you knew this to be as a fact' how would you react?
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Ahh. Sorry! Misunderstood you there. If HTC did say that they're not going to focus on battery life then I'd just switch to a custom ROM and possibly ponder never buying another HTC phone again.
Tiersten said:
Ahh. Sorry! Misunderstood you there. If HTC did say that they're not going to focus on battery life then I'd just switch to a custom ROM and possibly ponder never buying another HTC phone again.
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The mistake is mine, like I stated I never start polls, and it not meant to be hostile I mean what would the point be in that? Attacking ourselves? hehe.
I just believe that the battery could improve ALOT if given proper attention, another thing is the camera, I dont understand why the pictures are never larger than 3 MB?
Maybe I should write it in the OP that this is not a hate Poll, its more a customer satisfaction Poll.
I mean the clients are the most important in the end.
HTC did a good job on the phone physically but I think most people can agree that they were surprised by the power consumption in the units.
The Asus Prime also houses the Tegra 3, and it has 3 power control options, maybe HTC should implement such a feature.
Cheers!
When DHD came out, the battery life wasn't the best, cos of its monstrous screen , anyway, customs roms improved the battery life a lot and I think they will improve one x:s battery life as well, but it would be a bad move from HTC to officially announce that they are not doing anything about their flagship phone's battery life
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Nubzori said:
When DHD came out, the battery life wasn't the best, cos of its monstrous screen , anyway, customs roms improved the battery life a lot and I think they will improve one x:s battery life as well, but it would be a bad move from HTC to officially announce that they are not doing anything about their flagship phone's battery life
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Thank you for your positive input!
Cheers!
Where's the "Do nothing because the battery life is fine for me"? I would vote for the top one but unfortunately I don't like to be insulted. This is going to yield VERY inaccurate results.
What a ridiculous poll.
Meltus said:
Where's the "Do nothing because the battery life is fine for me"? I would vote for the top one but unfortunately I don't like to be insulted. This is going to yield VERY inaccurate results.
What a ridiculous poll.
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Ridicule it as much as you want it is not a Poll for your 'my battery is fine'.
I also feel that my battery is FINE but it is fine RIGHT NOW. And if I would know that it will not improve then I would get very upset.
Im sure the SGII has a bumpy ride before getting a nice battery life based on software improvements.
Johnny0906 said:
Ridicule it as much as you want it is not a Poll for your 'my battery is fine'.
I also feel that my battery is FINE but it is fine RIGHT NOW. And if I would know that it will not improve then I would get very upset.
Im sure the SGII has a bumpy ride before getting a nice battery life based on software improvements.
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No, it's not, it's a poll for "If HTC no longer focuses on battery life in their official roms, how would you react?".
How would I react? I honestly couldn't care less, but the option for that is stupid and insulting. You're essentially implying that anyone who doesn't care that HTC is no longer focusing on battery life is a "sheep" and cannot think for themselves.
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No, it's not, it's a poll for "If HTC no longer focuses on battery life in their official roms, how would you react?".
How would I react? I honestly couldn't care less, but the option for that is stupid and insulting. You're essentially implying that anyone who doesn't care that HTC is no longer focusing on battery life is a "sheep" and cannot think for themselves.
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I will repeat it again and again if I have to, look since the sheep thing upsets people then I would change it to 'indifferent' because thats what it is implying and if you dont want to answer then dont, its more to see what people think about the whole battery issue not YOUR personal self-insulting issues or whatever you have going on.
I also wrote in the beginning that I never start Poll and yes I am abit of a crude person but thats just me.
I also added this : (THIS POLL WAS NOT MEANT TO MAKE PEOPLE EAT THEIR OWN FINGERS, IT WAS MEANT TO SIMPLY PUT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS TOGETHER AND MAYBE BE NOTICED BY HTC, WHO KNOWS?)
And if I may say I really cant believe that you couldnt care less if the updates didnt improve the battery, I think you belong in the less than 99.9% group who do not want the updates to include battery enhancements or performance, and again about your sheep-complex its something you have to sort out im sorry im no psychiatrist.
Cheers!!!
Meltus said:
Where's the "Do nothing because the battery life is fine for me"? I would vote for the top one but unfortunately I don't like to be insulted. This is going to yield VERY inaccurate results.
What a ridiculous poll.
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Why would it yield innacurate results? Im sorry but I have to ask.
Because of the sheep things? I think strong minded people dont care about stuff like that.
And again I think 99.9% of the One X owners would like to see updates that improves battery life asides from other stuff.
You're one wierd little one...
Johnny0906 said:
I will repeat it again and again if I have to, look since the sheep thing upsets people then I would change it to 'indifferent' because thats what it is implying and if you dont want to answer then dont, its more to see what people think about the whole battery issue not YOUR personal self-insulting issues or whatever you have going on.
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You didn't read my last post at all did you?
'Sheep' doesn't upset me. It's not even the fact you typed those 4 letters that makes me think this poll is stupid, it's the fact that by using the options you have done (including an insulting term in the counter option to what you believe) you're pretty much 'forcing' people to agree with you. You're not going to get accurate results with this poll (y'know, completely defeating the whole point of it).
Johnny0906 said:
I also added this : (THIS POLL WAS NOT MEANT TO MAKE PEOPLE EAT THEIR OWN FINGERS, IT WAS MEANT TO SIMPLY PUT PEOPLE'S OPINIONS TOGETHER AND MAYBE BE NOTICED BY HTC, WHO KNOWS?)
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...what?
Johnny0906 said:
And if I may say I really cant believe that you couldnt care less if the updates didnt improve the battery, I think you belong in the less than 99.9% group who do not want the updates to include battery enhancements or performance, and again about your sheep-complex its something you have to sort out im sorry im no psychiatrist.
Cheers!!!
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I just don't care about battery life that much. It's fine, it does the job (Mine's currently at 60% after 7hours and 24minutes on battery).
Not sure about my "sheep-complex", as you so eloquently put it, but someone who flips out and argues with random people simply because someone disagreed with their point of view must have some sort of god-complex.
That can't be healthy.
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Why would it yield innacurate results? Im sorry but I have to ask.
Because of the sheep things? I think strong minded people dont care about stuff like that.
And again I think 99.9% of the One X owners would like to see updates that improves battery life asides from other stuff.
You're one wierd little one...
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Haha, I'm a bizarre person, I wont lie!
And no, strong minded people wont care, but they probably wont vote.
I think the 161 views and only 4 votes speaks for itself, don't you?
I think that they will be working on codes to optimize battery-life..
Read here from Engadget's article:
We also discussed battery life and competing phones that come with physically larger batteries (especially the Droid Razr Maxx), but Vice President of Phone Strategy Bjorn Kilburn claims that for most customers going into the shops, power consumption is not on the top of their lists. In fact, HTC claimed it tested a large battery concept with selected customers and carriers last year, but it didn't sell.
It turns out people just prefer thinner phones (or at least initially they do), and therefore HTC chose to take a holistic approach to improving battery life through power management optimization, choice of power density, choice of voltage and many more.
HTC's preference to wired charging over the comparatively slower wireless charging also helps reduce phone downtime, of course.
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Read here from Engadget's article:
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I just read thru the article fast.
I really hope they focus on battery improvments.
Me and some other people were discussing on a thread if it could be possible to change the 1800 battery to a maybe 2000? that is more or less the same size and if its not too much of a difference in size then maybe even a 2200.
If you notice on the back of the 1X the poly-body is 'soft' if you press it abit, and also opening didnt seem TOO difficult.
But first think is to find the correct battery model but stronger and go from there.
Another possible scenario could be to make use of those 5 pins on the back. But at least for me its unclear about what they exactly do or will do, of course a Dock comes to mind but will it get charged via those pins?
In that case you could have a cover with an extra battery or something
Cheers
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So if you knew this to be a fact, how would you react?
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Well, since it's not a fact I'm not going to react at all. How you got that HTC's abandoning focusing on battery life out of this is beyond me. If their phones suddenly become known as the worst of all manufacturers for battery life they may as well shut down now. It's a competitive industry and their battery life needs to be competitive also. They're not idiots.
This week, at its Frequencies blogger event, HTC said it was looking at ways to prolong battery life without adding more bulk to the phone itself. Speaking to bloggers in Seattle, HTC's vice president of phone strategy Bjorn Kilburn said that the company had rejected models with huge 3000mAh batteries because they were too thick. PCMag reports that Kilburn said research indicated customers wanted a phone between 8mm and 10mm thick and that customers weren't happy to buy a phone any bigger than that.
"We experimented with putting in a lot more battery, making the device thicker, but consumers don't want to buy it," Kilburn said. "So we spent a lot of time finding other ways [to maximize battery life] than the brute force approach."
HTC is now trying to find ways to improve battery life without whacking a great big battery in the phone and calling it a day. Kilburn highlighted the HTC One X's LCD 2 display, which he says is less power hungry than an AMOLED display as an example of the company's efforts.
Now that the HTC One X has been out for a couple of weeks in both International (Asia / European) version and North American (Rogers, T-Mobile, AT&T) does anyone know the verdict on which version has the better battery life?
I suppose this would be heavily based on usage, but I've read some contradicting things.
The quad core processor (in the International version) is suppose to be good on battery, but I've also seen (both reports coming from Engadget) that the North American version seems to be a bit preferred (because of the LTE, despite the 12GB usable memory).
Can anyone speak on this, and maybe let me know which one seems to fair better battery life?
I use the camera a lot, I don't game on my phone, I listen to music a lot, and I like to text quite a lot.
LTE would be handy, but seeing as I'll also be traveling with my phone and won't see that functionality be useful abroad... I'd be (and currently am) happy with the International version in a Slate color, and in 32GB (26GB usable memory space) form.
I'm getting 8-10 hour days on my HOX International version. If anything, I'd be eying the Rogers HOX if I were looking to get a North American version.
I have the International Version and I seem to get very good battery life. It last all day. Im rooted and running a custom rom. I browse the website and use it all day long. Don't really stream movies or youtube but it will last me about 12 consistent hours. Although a lot of people are complaining about the battery I don't see the problem on my end. Hopefully that will help a little.
For now the S4 Krait version has better battery life. As stated in Anandtech's review, there will be an update available for the Tegra 3 version that they are currently reviewing that will sort this out. According to Nvidia, it's a software issue, so hopefully the update will improve battery life somewhat.
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For now the S4 Krait version has better battery life. As stated in Anandtech's review, there will be an update available for the Tegra 3 version that they are currently reviewing that will sort this out. According to Nvidia, it's a software issue, so hopefully the update will improve battery life somewhat.
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Yes, S4 Krait is 32nm, while Tegra 3 is 40nm, so the smaller it is the better battery life (but then there is LTE in S4 which I don't know how much will make it worse compared to non-LTE phone).
Tegra 3 - I don't have high hopes for battery life improvement fix, but we will see, I'd love to get it and have that "amazing battery life" advertized by nvidia reps.
I know they already announced Tegra 3+ for later this year which is 32nm so that should help with battery life.
The T3 version takes almost 0 power during standby, it's the power draw during light use that is causing the lower battery life compared to the S4 US version.
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The T3 version takes almost 0 power during standby, it's the power draw during light use that is causing the lower battery life compared to the S4 US version.
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Why is this the case?
Btw, you mean North American version. We Canadians had the phone launched first in North America.
Can anyone else speak on this query?
Maiesta_Miyabi said:
Why is this the case?
Btw, you mean North American version. We Canadians had the phone launched first in North America.
Can anyone else speak on this query?
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My guess is something from Sense isn't playing nice with the Tegra chip. My phone doesn't seem to lose power in standby but when I start using it after substantial standby time the battery level plummets. This leads me to believe that despite the fact my phone says I'm not losing much juice while in standby, I'm actually losing a fair amount.
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I'm getting 4.5 hours screen time with heavy use on the international version, auto brightness and 1.28 stock.
I consider this great considering the screen is a battery hog.
What sort of screen time is the S4 getting?
So it really comes down to the fact that SLCD2 is a power hog?
I'm wondering if I should just return the HOX and wait out for the S3.
But I do like the aesthetics, and camera on the HOX.
I've had the Note, and it has had a better battery life, plus a brighter LED flash.
But as I travel a lot with my phone, its starting not to make sense to have something that big with me.
Maiesta_Miyabi said:
So it really comes down to the fact that SLCD2 is a power hog?
I'm wondering if I should just return the HOX and wait out for the S3.
But I do like the aesthetics, and camera on the HOX.
I've had the Note, and it has had a better battery life, plus a brighter LED flash.
But as I travel a lot with my phone, its starting not to make sense to have something that big with me.
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I made the same switch as you. I really miss the battery life from the Note, but the phone was just a bit too big. I'm really banking on HTC growing up and releasing the kernel source for the One X sooner rather than later. Once custom kernels start being built I'd be willing to bet we're going to see much improved battery life.
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Why is this the case?
Btw, you mean North American version. We Canadians had the phone launched first in North America.
Can anyone else speak on this query?
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I'm not sure whether the Canada version is the S4 or T3 version
On why it is so, it's not known yet but I read somewhere that Nvidia says its a software issue, so hopefully some kind of update will tweak some settings to lower power usage while on light usage
I have decided to get the HOX instead of the GS3 as I can get the 32GB for the price of a 16GB galaxy, and the hardware seems much better and the phone much nicer.
As far as I understand, the 32GB version is the INTERNATIONAL version which basically is a 4 cores and no LTE HOX.
If I get this international version, there would be no problems with rooting and installing custom roms?
My other and very important concern, what about battery life? I read comments where it says it lasts about 6 hours of normal use, which is too little. I thought the HOX had great battery life, or is this a problem with the international version only?
THANKS!
Please ask about this on the international one x forums
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Didn't realized there was one, can any moderator move it there? Thanks.
One xl comes in 32gb in several regions. That spec alone does not define if the phone is Evita or endeaver.
I'm positive is not the LTE because is about 500 new unlocked for 32GB, and it says GSM phone on the description.
kwanbis said:
I have decided to get the HOX instead of the GS3 as I can get the 32GB for the price of a 16GB galaxy, and the hardware seems much better and the phone much nicer.
As far as I understand, the 32GB version is the INTERNATIONAL version which basically is a 4 cores and no LTE HOX.
If I get this international version, there would be no problems with rooting and installing custom roms?
My other and very important concern, what about battery life? I read comments where it says it lasts about 6 hours of normal use, which is too little. I thought the HOX had great battery life, or is this a problem with the international version only?
THANKS!
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If you're worried about development progress on the HoX T3, you've got nothing to worry about. It's one of the most active dev forums on XDA. If you got the XL version then you have reason to worry cos development there is a bit on the slow side unfortunately /:
6 hours of normal use? Define normal use I get 3-4 hours on screen time with moderate usage and some heavy duty gaming. Screen auto brightness.
Right, what would be normal use for some would be not normal for others.
I do not use it for long periods of time, but maybe I check incoming emails about 10/20 times a day, send/read another 10/20 whatsapp messages, talk no more than 1 hour on average, and maybe another 30 minutes of browsing.
I currently have a SGS2, and I manage to get about 14 hours of phone use like that, more or less, would I be able to get better battery on the HOX? Would it make any difference if it is the dual core or quad core version?
Thanks.
kwanbis said:
Right, what would be normal use for some would be not normal for others.
I do not use it for long periods of time, but maybe I check incoming emails about 10/20 times a day, send/read another 10/20 whatsapp messages, talk no more than 1 hour on average, and maybe another 30 minutes of browsing.
I currently have a SGS2, and I manage to get about 14 hours of phone use like that, more or less, would I be able to get better battery on the HOX? Would it make any difference if it is the dual core or quad core version?
Thanks.
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The dual core version has better battery life while in use, but the quad core one has better standby performance cos of it's 5th companion core. Since the phone will be on standby for the majority of the time, it kinda evens out. Tegra 3 has better talk time, while S4 has better on screen time. Both will definitely last you a whole day at the least I haven't checked out battery performance in awhile, cos it's always plugged in at my office pc But I can do a few tests starting today/tomorrow for a few days to see what my combination of ROM and Kernel does for battery life.
Thanks for the information. So I would buy the international version then, and an S3, just in case, and see which one gives me more battery (really hope it is the HOX, as the S3 is horrible, the S2 is much better looking).
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Thanks for the information. So I would buy the international version then, and an S3, just in case, and see which one gives me more battery (really hope it is the HOX, as the S3 is horrible, the S2 is much better looking).
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The S3 does have a bigger battery though.. Also depends which S3 you're getting, the S4 Krait or the Exynos version (international)
ArmedandDangerous said:
The S3 does have a bigger battery though.. Also depends which S3 you're getting, the S4 Krait or the Exynos version (international)
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I currently have an S2, which I love, even if I would like the battery to last 2~4 more hours at least, which I would like to upgrade from.
While I love the aesthetics of the S2 in general, I do not like the S3 that much, and love the HOX aesthetics. My only problem with the HOX, or any other phone for that matter, is again battery time.
I think that in general, the HOX and the S3 are more or less the same, the only differences being aesthetics and maybe battery time.
So you are saying that the S3 has a longer lasting battery? Would the Krait last longer in general than the Exynos or the opposite?
I would prefer the HOX, any of the HOXes, to the S3, but battery is the most important thing for me, so much that I have even considered a Razr Maxx, but I'm not so sure about it.
If battery is of the utmost importance, then maybe you'd like to wait for the HoX+ that will be out in shops soon. It has a bigger battery, slightly better front camera, comes with JB and Sense 4+ and a slightly faster clocked Tegra 3. I haven't seen many S3 Exynos reviews yet cos most review sites are US-based, hence having access to the Krait version first. For really in-depth reviews I go for anandtech, they did a review for the Krait S3's already but none for the Exynos yet.
The HoX+ has a 2100 mAh battery, while the S3 has a 2100 mAh battery as well. Both will last you through a day easily, with the S3 slightly ahead.
I would say the Krait would outlast the Exynos, but that's just me making a guess haha.