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Now that the HTC One X has been out for a couple of weeks in both International (Asia / European) version and North American (Rogers, T-Mobile, AT&T) does anyone know the verdict on which version has the better battery life?
I suppose this would be heavily based on usage, but I've read some contradicting things.
The quad core processor (in the International version) is suppose to be good on battery, but I've also seen (both reports coming from Engadget) that the North American version seems to be a bit preferred (because of the LTE, despite the 12GB usable memory).
Can anyone speak on this, and maybe let me know which one seems to fair better battery life?
I use the camera a lot, I don't game on my phone, I listen to music a lot, and I like to text quite a lot.
LTE would be handy, but seeing as I'll also be traveling with my phone and won't see that functionality be useful abroad... I'd be (and currently am) happy with the International version in a Slate color, and in 32GB (26GB usable memory space) form.
I'm getting 8-10 hour days on my HOX International version. If anything, I'd be eying the Rogers HOX if I were looking to get a North American version.
I have the International Version and I seem to get very good battery life. It last all day. Im rooted and running a custom rom. I browse the website and use it all day long. Don't really stream movies or youtube but it will last me about 12 consistent hours. Although a lot of people are complaining about the battery I don't see the problem on my end. Hopefully that will help a little.
For now the S4 Krait version has better battery life. As stated in Anandtech's review, there will be an update available for the Tegra 3 version that they are currently reviewing that will sort this out. According to Nvidia, it's a software issue, so hopefully the update will improve battery life somewhat.
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For now the S4 Krait version has better battery life. As stated in Anandtech's review, there will be an update available for the Tegra 3 version that they are currently reviewing that will sort this out. According to Nvidia, it's a software issue, so hopefully the update will improve battery life somewhat.
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Yes, S4 Krait is 32nm, while Tegra 3 is 40nm, so the smaller it is the better battery life (but then there is LTE in S4 which I don't know how much will make it worse compared to non-LTE phone).
Tegra 3 - I don't have high hopes for battery life improvement fix, but we will see, I'd love to get it and have that "amazing battery life" advertized by nvidia reps.
I know they already announced Tegra 3+ for later this year which is 32nm so that should help with battery life.
The T3 version takes almost 0 power during standby, it's the power draw during light use that is causing the lower battery life compared to the S4 US version.
ArmedandDangerous said:
The T3 version takes almost 0 power during standby, it's the power draw during light use that is causing the lower battery life compared to the S4 US version.
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Why is this the case?
Btw, you mean North American version. We Canadians had the phone launched first in North America.
Can anyone else speak on this query?
Maiesta_Miyabi said:
Why is this the case?
Btw, you mean North American version. We Canadians had the phone launched first in North America.
Can anyone else speak on this query?
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My guess is something from Sense isn't playing nice with the Tegra chip. My phone doesn't seem to lose power in standby but when I start using it after substantial standby time the battery level plummets. This leads me to believe that despite the fact my phone says I'm not losing much juice while in standby, I'm actually losing a fair amount.
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I'm getting 4.5 hours screen time with heavy use on the international version, auto brightness and 1.28 stock.
I consider this great considering the screen is a battery hog.
What sort of screen time is the S4 getting?
So it really comes down to the fact that SLCD2 is a power hog?
I'm wondering if I should just return the HOX and wait out for the S3.
But I do like the aesthetics, and camera on the HOX.
I've had the Note, and it has had a better battery life, plus a brighter LED flash.
But as I travel a lot with my phone, its starting not to make sense to have something that big with me.
Maiesta_Miyabi said:
So it really comes down to the fact that SLCD2 is a power hog?
I'm wondering if I should just return the HOX and wait out for the S3.
But I do like the aesthetics, and camera on the HOX.
I've had the Note, and it has had a better battery life, plus a brighter LED flash.
But as I travel a lot with my phone, its starting not to make sense to have something that big with me.
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I made the same switch as you. I really miss the battery life from the Note, but the phone was just a bit too big. I'm really banking on HTC growing up and releasing the kernel source for the One X sooner rather than later. Once custom kernels start being built I'd be willing to bet we're going to see much improved battery life.
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Maiesta_Miyabi said:
Why is this the case?
Btw, you mean North American version. We Canadians had the phone launched first in North America.
Can anyone else speak on this query?
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I'm not sure whether the Canada version is the S4 or T3 version
On why it is so, it's not known yet but I read somewhere that Nvidia says its a software issue, so hopefully some kind of update will tweak some settings to lower power usage while on light usage
Whats the deal with the battery? How long does it last for moderate use, and from 20% how long would it take to charge to 100%?
Is the htc "aggressive" memory management really that bad?
I live in south Texas, which means we're years away from LTE, should I buy the international version?
Is there some sort of software like iTunes to back up the phone?
Which has better battery, US version or International version?
Using it with one hand, is it possible for an average size male? Medium hand size?
Thanks!
Thremix said:
Whats the deal with the battery? How long does it last for moderate use, and from 20% how long would it take to charge to 100%?
Is the htc "aggressive" memory management really that bad?
I live in south Texas, which means we're years away from LTE, should I buy the international version?
Is there some sort of software like iTunes to back up the phone?
Which has better battery, US version or International version?
Using it with one hand, is it possible for an average size male? Medium hand size?
Thanks!
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You'll have to define 'moderate use'. Expect 3-4 hours screen time depending on call time and syncing Gmail, email and social networks etc.
You'll have to define 'that bad'. I have no problem whatsoever with memory management.
Yes, HTC Sync Manager.
I believe the AT&T version has slightly better battery (about 20%).
I can use it one handed OK. It can be tricky when reaching all the way across the screen but that's the unavoidable pitfall to a large screen.
I believe AT&T version only have 16Gb storage compared to international version with 32Gb.
Something to consider.
My usage from 7am to 9pm with 18% battery left, 3.5hrs screen time with 1hr of gaming, screen brightness is around 66%.
P.S. Battery takes 2.5 to 3 hrs to charge from empty to full, so maybe 2hrs to charge from 20% to 100%.
P.P.S. I'm using Juice Defender, also the phone is running with 3 cores and under-volted CPU. Stock ROM might have less usage time.
So the best battery life would be found on the us version? I figured the quad core would be more "battery friendly"
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So the best battery life would be found on the us version? I figured the quad core would be more "battery friendly"
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The Tegra 3 is based on older A9 40nm design and the S4 in US version is based on newer 28nm A15 design. The S4 is just as fast as the Tegra and it is more energy efficient.
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So the best battery life would be found on the us version? I figured the quad core would be more "battery friendly"
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the us version is only dual core, and should have better battery life yes. see the rogers/at&t forum for more info
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The Tegra 3 is based on older A9 40nm design and the S4 in US version is based on newer 28nm A15 design. The S4 is just as fast as the Tegra and it is more energy efficient.
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oh boy, not again
The main thing I do is:
1) Web Browsing
2) Music
3) APPS like FB, Twitter, XDA (not games)
Which version will work better? I don't really get good battery life with stock Sense UI with the International One X sadly.
I also can't decide which one to pick...
From what I heard the LTE one is a bit faster than the int one, the battery life is also better on the LTE but no one gave me numbers... If it's something like 10min it's not worth it imo... Also more people have the int version so there will probably be more devs on it. I asked on another thread if the updates from HTC were for both phones or if they are differents updates and which phone is the most updated but no answers yet... People are saying that battery life will get better with updates, and I read on another thread that Nvidia will release drivers optimised for ICS kernel and that should improve the battery life and perfs.
That said I think I'll go for the int version because: I live in Canada (QC) and here data is limited (50$ for 2gb) so I need internal storage and 16gb is a bit small... People are saying dual core is faster for in all benchmarks I have seen, quadcore version had better scores. Since I don't know if the updates from HTC covers both phones I'll assume it's not the case and I think the int version will get more updates than US version because more people are using it, same for the devs and custom roms. I don't care about LTE cause my area is not covered yet and since data is limited thats probably better xD
For games I don't care for now because I hate playing on touchscreen, but who knows, maybe they will release a mini game-pad.
For finish quadcore is probably overkill for now but I'll not change my phone for a long time and I think apps will be using quadcore in the future and be more optimised for it.
tsukurimashou said:
I also can't decide which one to pick...
From what I heard the LTE one is a bit faster than the int one, the battery life is also better on the LTE but no one gave me numbers... If it's something like 10min it's not worth it imo... Also more people have the int version so there will probably be more devs on it. I asked on another thread if the updates from HTC were for both phones or if they are differents updates and which phone is the most updated but no answers yet... People are saying that battery life will get better with updates, and I read on another thread that Nvidia will release drivers optimised for ICS kernel and that should improve the battery life and perfs.
That said I think I'll go for the int version because: I live in Canada (QC) and here data is limited (50$ for 2gb) so I need internal storage and 16gb is a bit small... People are saying dual core is faster for in all benchmarks I have seen, quadcore version had better scores. Since I don't know if the updates from HTC covers both phones I'll assume it's not the case and I think the int version will get more updates than US version because more people are using it, same for the devs and custom roms. I don't care about LTE cause my area is not covered yet and since data is limited thats probably better xD
For games I don't care for now because I hate playing on touchscreen, but who knows, maybe they will release a mini game-pad.
For finish quadcore is probably overkill for now but I'll not change my phone for a long time and I think apps will be using quadcore in the future and be more optimised for it.
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Yeah I share your frustration. I'm in Alberta and I don't want to pay the big 3 the money for LTE, so HSPA+ is fine. But the thing is my battery life has been horrendous so far on my international One X. It doesn't help that NVIDIA is using a VERY outdated kernel version, in comparison to the snapdragon. The other problem is we don't know when NVIDIA is going to fix this, as I'm not going to wait 1 more year before they update the kernel version. I think the LTE version is running a newer kernel thus better overall battery life. I only wish the LTE version came in 32 GBS. But that really doesn't matter too much for me now, since I can't even go one day on a full charge. I get about 1.5~1.75 hours of screen time with auto sync and auto brightness on. It's VERY disappointing in comparison to my Galaxy Note, which I now regret selling.
If I had a chance, I would go for LTE version. I have international for about one month and it quite disappointed, starting from lagging live wallpapers through laggy browser, reloading Sense ending with other performance issues. Still, I love the screen and standby battery time and performance issues will be resolved with next updates or when we find S-OFF method without loosing warranty.
As for now, T3 HOX disappointed me, but I hope it will get better and better over time. Luckily, I had none of bulid quality issues, no overheating, no dead pixels nor screen blikning, because I'm sure I would get rid of this phone right away.
corckie said:
If I had a chance, I would go for LTE version. I have international for about one month and it quite disappointed, starting from lagging live wallpapers through laggy browser, reloading Sense ending with other performance issues. Still, I love the screen and standby battery time and performance issues will be resolved with next updates or when we find S-OFF method without loosing warranty.
As for now, T3 HOX disappointed me, but I hope it will get better and better over time. Luckily, I had none of bulid quality issues, no overheating, no dead pixels nor screen blikning, because I'm sure I would get rid of this phone right away.
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harsh life... there's no other phone out there i would consider right now... *sigh*
Why not go for the international version of the LTE, the One XL this has got the same memory as the tegra 3 version.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_xl-4572.php
anoniemouse said:
Why not go for the international version of the LTE, the One XL this has got the same memory as the tegra 3 version.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_xl-4572.php
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i know the snapdragon is running a newer kernel than the tegra, and rumour has it it has a better battery life somewhat because of the kernel. it's just frustrating that the One X is a let down battery life and screen problem wise.
Keep in mind that, due to the Apple vs HTC war going on right now, they had to modify the AT&T version of the HOX and it has little limitations, such as links not taking you to their respective apps (i.e. phone numbers won't dial and youtube links launch the browser, not Youtube, and give you no option to change it).
I believe there are other tweaks, as well, but I don't know all of them.
I had the AT&T version initially and was not very happy with it. It had the SMS bug, which has still not been fixed and it didn't seem to run as well as my International version.
S4 is great, but I think the Tegra has better idle battery life, thanks to the 5th companion core and I'm not on mine all the time. Even with use, my Tegra One X does okay.
greyhulk said:
Keep in mind that, due to the Apple vs HTC war going on right now, they had to modify the AT&T version of the HOX and it has little limitations, such as links not taking you to their respective apps (i.e. phone numbers won't dial and youtube links launch the browser, not Youtube, and give you no option to change it).
I believe there are other tweaks, as well, but I don't know all of them.
I had the AT&T version initially and was not very happy with it. It had the SMS bug, which has still not been fixed and it didn't seem to run as well as my International version.
S4 is great, but I think the Tegra has better idle battery life, thanks to the 5th companion core and I'm not on mine all the time. Even with use, my Tegra One X does okay.
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it's just hard for me to accept the stock battery life on this device. coming from a galaxy note, which I'm starting to think was a huge regret to sell, lasted one day with my use pattern. With my one X I usually last from 7 AM to 2-3 PM before it's screaming for a charge.
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Why not just sell the one x then and rebuy the note if you are un happy with the one x?
I tested the one X roggers version (same as AT&T) at best buy yesterday and I wasn't impressed at all... I mean yes the screen is amazing I love the phone design and sense but it was laggy, the multitasking is a joke and everytime you press home button you have to wait 1-3sec... What is the point of having a dualcore if there is loading times when you press home and you can't multitask? Anyway I really hope the int version don't have those issues (for multitasking I know it's "normal" but I heard it can be fixed with a script). Anyway the battery life is also an issue for me, when I see the GS3 with amazing battery life... I love the design the screen and sense on the HTC but I hate battery life and multitasking... I love the battery life and perfs on the GS3 but I hate the design and especially touchwizz vs sense... It's really really hard to choose.
so any updates on this now that you have sense 4.1 and stuff? is the T3 one x much smoother now? should i get international one x instead of at&t?
After the 4.0.4 update and Sense 4.1, anything other than the Tegra 3 variant is out of the question. Quadrants, Antutu, etc are off the charts as well as overall smoothness and general responsiveness. I came from a Galaxy S3 and the One X indeed feels overall smoother for me now
But for your mentioned use, id say that you would benefit more from the lte than the extra 2 cores and GPU power
My reason for choosing T3 (And my carrier offers the LTE version, AT&T)
-Tegra 3 Gaming
-32GB storage
-No bloat (in my case)
-Unlimited data
-Int variant should get updates faster
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My desire is now 22months old. I've upgraded to BCM ICS. Stable enough to be pretty sure it'll reach a polished and reliable state over the coming months.
I've trialed ICS and it's great but the battery life often leaves me with a dead phone when out for the day.(highly annoying). This starts to hamper my use of the phone because i'm mindful of it running down.
My dilema is whether to upgrade my handset. I want the newer functionality of ICS and if I can get acceptable battery performance out of Desire I'll keep it for another year or so. I have just extended contract for another 24months sim only - got a great deal.
I'm trying to work out if a new battery will bring a decent (ie 30%+) improvement to the battery life.
There are plently of anecdotal threads about battery life such as this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478267&highlight=replace+battery
Many people on this thread are claiming 2 days+ use which i have never seen. In fact using say just using navigation will flatten battery from 100% in around 1.5 hours.
But these threads are irrelevant since there are too many varibables ie usage and network.
3 Questions:
1. So i've tried the AnTutu tester and scored 391. Anyone else used this - please post your score, age of phone and max CPU speed?
2. If you are aware of a more popular battery testing util which has lots of stats for desire users please let me know
3. Has anyone replaced battery stock with stock and used some testing software to compare performance? What did you find?
I just replaced my two year old battery with a new HTC battery. And even on the first charge I got at least one hour more screen time. So if you're gonna stick with your desire its definitely a good idea to get a new battery.
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Thanks. I guess i'd be interested to know if you measured the battery vs the old one with an app so i could compare. (my old battery may be in much better condition than you old one so replacing may not improve things much.
Where did you buy your official one?
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I have decided to get the HOX instead of the GS3 as I can get the 32GB for the price of a 16GB galaxy, and the hardware seems much better and the phone much nicer.
As far as I understand, the 32GB version is the INTERNATIONAL version which basically is a 4 cores and no LTE HOX.
If I get this international version, there would be no problems with rooting and installing custom roms?
My other and very important concern, what about battery life? I read comments where it says it lasts about 6 hours of normal use, which is too little. I thought the HOX had great battery life, or is this a problem with the international version only?
THANKS!
Please ask about this on the international one x forums
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Didn't realized there was one, can any moderator move it there? Thanks.
One xl comes in 32gb in several regions. That spec alone does not define if the phone is Evita or endeaver.
I'm positive is not the LTE because is about 500 new unlocked for 32GB, and it says GSM phone on the description.
kwanbis said:
I have decided to get the HOX instead of the GS3 as I can get the 32GB for the price of a 16GB galaxy, and the hardware seems much better and the phone much nicer.
As far as I understand, the 32GB version is the INTERNATIONAL version which basically is a 4 cores and no LTE HOX.
If I get this international version, there would be no problems with rooting and installing custom roms?
My other and very important concern, what about battery life? I read comments where it says it lasts about 6 hours of normal use, which is too little. I thought the HOX had great battery life, or is this a problem with the international version only?
THANKS!
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If you're worried about development progress on the HoX T3, you've got nothing to worry about. It's one of the most active dev forums on XDA. If you got the XL version then you have reason to worry cos development there is a bit on the slow side unfortunately /:
6 hours of normal use? Define normal use I get 3-4 hours on screen time with moderate usage and some heavy duty gaming. Screen auto brightness.
Right, what would be normal use for some would be not normal for others.
I do not use it for long periods of time, but maybe I check incoming emails about 10/20 times a day, send/read another 10/20 whatsapp messages, talk no more than 1 hour on average, and maybe another 30 minutes of browsing.
I currently have a SGS2, and I manage to get about 14 hours of phone use like that, more or less, would I be able to get better battery on the HOX? Would it make any difference if it is the dual core or quad core version?
Thanks.
kwanbis said:
Right, what would be normal use for some would be not normal for others.
I do not use it for long periods of time, but maybe I check incoming emails about 10/20 times a day, send/read another 10/20 whatsapp messages, talk no more than 1 hour on average, and maybe another 30 minutes of browsing.
I currently have a SGS2, and I manage to get about 14 hours of phone use like that, more or less, would I be able to get better battery on the HOX? Would it make any difference if it is the dual core or quad core version?
Thanks.
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The dual core version has better battery life while in use, but the quad core one has better standby performance cos of it's 5th companion core. Since the phone will be on standby for the majority of the time, it kinda evens out. Tegra 3 has better talk time, while S4 has better on screen time. Both will definitely last you a whole day at the least I haven't checked out battery performance in awhile, cos it's always plugged in at my office pc But I can do a few tests starting today/tomorrow for a few days to see what my combination of ROM and Kernel does for battery life.
Thanks for the information. So I would buy the international version then, and an S3, just in case, and see which one gives me more battery (really hope it is the HOX, as the S3 is horrible, the S2 is much better looking).
kwanbis said:
Thanks for the information. So I would buy the international version then, and an S3, just in case, and see which one gives me more battery (really hope it is the HOX, as the S3 is horrible, the S2 is much better looking).
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The S3 does have a bigger battery though.. Also depends which S3 you're getting, the S4 Krait or the Exynos version (international)
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The S3 does have a bigger battery though.. Also depends which S3 you're getting, the S4 Krait or the Exynos version (international)
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I currently have an S2, which I love, even if I would like the battery to last 2~4 more hours at least, which I would like to upgrade from.
While I love the aesthetics of the S2 in general, I do not like the S3 that much, and love the HOX aesthetics. My only problem with the HOX, or any other phone for that matter, is again battery time.
I think that in general, the HOX and the S3 are more or less the same, the only differences being aesthetics and maybe battery time.
So you are saying that the S3 has a longer lasting battery? Would the Krait last longer in general than the Exynos or the opposite?
I would prefer the HOX, any of the HOXes, to the S3, but battery is the most important thing for me, so much that I have even considered a Razr Maxx, but I'm not so sure about it.
If battery is of the utmost importance, then maybe you'd like to wait for the HoX+ that will be out in shops soon. It has a bigger battery, slightly better front camera, comes with JB and Sense 4+ and a slightly faster clocked Tegra 3. I haven't seen many S3 Exynos reviews yet cos most review sites are US-based, hence having access to the Krait version first. For really in-depth reviews I go for anandtech, they did a review for the Krait S3's already but none for the Exynos yet.
The HoX+ has a 2100 mAh battery, while the S3 has a 2100 mAh battery as well. Both will last you through a day easily, with the S3 slightly ahead.
I would say the Krait would outlast the Exynos, but that's just me making a guess haha.