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My screen has never looked this awesome...

So, the other day I purchased a Datacolor Spyder 4 Pro screen calibrator. Being a photographer I want all my (primary) displays to look as natural and true to what my eye sees as possible.
So I decided to try calibrating my Gnex screen. I don't know any good way of doing this so I had to improvise, what I did is I first took screenshots of the entire calibration process and came to the conclusion that it simply shows 5 images: one solid white, black, red, green and blue image and measures it to define the accuracy of the uncalibrated screen. Then having told the calibration software that the screen has built in RGB sliders (the gnex doesn't I know, but I ticked the option anyway, you'll understand soon why) it then gives me a screen where it measures from a solid white image how much bias there is in either of the channels (red, green and blue) and gives a clear diagram overview, the objective is to adjust the RGB sliders of the monitor to make the 3 bars align (thus having no bias/tint in either channel for a natural reproduction). What I did here is that I used the color control feature available in various custom kernels (I'm using franco) and adjusted the color multipliers until' I my calibrator reported it being even and natural. I also used the RGB Gamma for some minor fine tuning.
I returned to the home screen and WOW, it's looks better than ever, grays are perfectly natural with NO GREENISH, CYAN OR PURPLE TINTS anywhere! Whites aren't perfect, leaning more toward a bright light gray, but worth noting I'm having only 31% screen brightness and I'm not sure if AMOLED can achieve a pure bright white image without a ton of cyan bias.
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Long story short, I got an hardware screen calibrator and used it to assist me get the most natural values with the color control in franco's kernel and it just pure amazing with none of the tints that the gnex is known for having.
My final values:
NOTE: These values may or may not look good for you, every AMOLED screen is different and needs different settings, these are simply the settings that worked for me, what's best for your device might be completely different!
Multipliers: 233 175 210
RGB Gamma: 1 0 1
Trinity contrast: 0
OMAP gamma: 1.0/disabled

Are the multipliers in order as RGB? Because these settings just make my screen look orangey

First thing, thank you for post:good:, i had looked for somebody to do a true calibration ever since i bought my gnex, having been spoiled before by my nexus s slcd screen, which was an excellent batch, so moving to the SAMOLED HD, for me, wasn't as great as i had hoped.
Still even after trying all the presets and fine tuning it still is slightly off.. (annoying thing with these screens not being all the same and being so different on quality, so you can't simply just input the color values and get the same result).
Anyway i like your numbers, they look pretty god on my screen.
Off topic: I'm probably wrong, but i think read somewhere that going over 200 on the color multipliers was supposed to make the screen more susceptible to burn in?

nitsua98 said:
Are the multipliers in order as RGB? Because these settings just make my screen look orangey
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Thanks for the reply. They should be in order indeed. Note that every display is different so it may not be what's best for your individual device. Additionally, AMOLED screens I believe is said to wear/fade quite quickly compared to LCD with use and also due to the way the actual panel works in our screens each color channel will fade with different pace, effectively leading to unbalanced colors based on what you view on it; For example if you view a lot of red colors, the reds will start fading and thus everything will look a tad cyan-tinted. Finally there may be a difference in the kernel you use and the version of that kernel.
Simply put, unfortunately it's not guaranteed that what looks best for everyone else as each screen is different.
Oh, another thing I noticed; Screen brightness actually affects the color balance pretty largely. Higher brightness means less greens and more reds/blues.
VirgilO said:
First thing, thank you for post:good:, i had looked for somebody to do a true calibration ever since i bought my gnex, having been spoiled before by my nexus s slcd screen, which was an excellent batch, so moving to the SAMOLED HD, for me, wasn't as great as i had hoped.
Still even after trying all the presets and fine tuning it still is slightly off.. (annoying thing with these screens not being all the same and being so different on quality, so you can't simply just input the color values and get the same result).
Anyway i like your numbers, they look pretty god on my screen.
Off topic: I'm probably wrong, but i think read somewhere that going over 200 on the color multipliers was supposed to make the screen more susceptible to burn in?
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And thanks to you for your reply. I actually believe I've heard someone that had used hardware to measure up the best settings for a natural 6500K color balance, but as I replied above, each screen is different and thus they were slightly too much on the blue/cyan end for me. To be honest, most settings I've tried that others have claimed to look great have always been too much green or too much blue. I've tried to adjust after my own eyes and gotten pretty close to what I believe to be good colors but always there is some kind of flaw, so I'm quite surprised to be honest I was able to get such a good overall result.
As for the color multipliers, I've heard it too but I have never seen anyone confirm it, so I'd call it off as a rumor. The burn-ins I've seen using values around 150-200 previously only apply to bright contrast colors and fades away within 2-3 seconds at most and 31% screen brightness is rather low I'd say.
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On another note.. I just want to add that this isn't necessarily a full calibration but just an attempt to reach the most balanced color values. When it comes to gamma and contrast however I'm not sure it's really possible to mimic that of an LCD screen due to the way AMOLED handles blacks and produces very vibrant colors.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Thanks for the reply. They should be in order indeed. Note that every display is different so it may not be what's best for your individual device. Additionally, AMOLED screens I believe is said to wear/fade quite quickly compared to LCD with use and also due to the way the actual panel works in our screens each color channel will fade with different pace, effectively leading to unbalanced colors based on what you view on it; For example if you view a lot of red colors, the reds will start fading and thus everything will look a tad cyan-tinted. Finally there may be a difference in the kernel you use and the version of that kernel.
Simply put, unfortunately it's not guaranteed that what looks best for everyone else as each screen is different.
Oh, another thing I noticed; Screen brightness actually affects the color balance pretty largely. Higher brightness means less greens and more reds/blues.
And thanks to you for your reply. I actually believe I've heard someone that had used hardware to measure up the best settings for a natural 6500K color balance, but as I replied above, each screen is different and thus they were slightly too much on the blue/cyan end for me. To be honest, most settings I've tried that others have claimed to look great have always been too much green or too much blue. I've tried to adjust after my own eyes and gotten pretty close to what I believe to be good colors but always there is some kind of flaw, so I'm quite surprised to be honest I was able to get such a good overall result.
As for the color multipliers, I've heard it too but I have never seen anyone confirm it, so I'd call it off as a rumor. The burn-ins I've seen using values around 150-200 previously only apply to bright contrast colors and fades away within 2-3 seconds at most and 31% screen brightness is rather low I'd say.
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On another note.. I just want to add that this isn't necessarily a full calibration but just an attempt to reach the most balanced color values. When it comes to gamma and contrast however I'm not sure it's really possible to mimic that of an LCD screen due to the way AMOLED handles blacks and produces very vibrant colors.
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Actually deterioration is a problem with normal AMOLED screens. Samsung uses PenTile configuration to mitigate that in the SAMOLED and SAMOLED Plus variants. More info in the following interview with a Samsung engineer:
http://www.mobileburn.com/19548/new...ed-displays-last-longer-thats-why-we-use-them

I put in these values using the Trickster app and my screen looked absolutely rubbish. There is no option to enable/disable Omap gamma in trickster, could that be the reason for the bad colors?

Screenshot please
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Justinhopaolo said:
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Face meet palm...
Why would the settings on his device be shown in a screen shot that you're viewing on yours?

its looks like cyan effect for photo on my screen..:/

063_XOBX said:
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Why would the settings on his device be shown in a screen shot that you're viewing on yours?
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Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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This works very well on my phone, but I change the omap gamma to 6
Thank you again :thumbup:
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Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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He's right, smartass, the screen shot is just the source of color, no matter how you calibrate your screen, every screen shot looks the same on other devices. We can only notice with real eyes contact.

Justinhopaolo said:
Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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That makes as much sense as taking screenshots of different brightness levels.

Justinhopaolo said:
Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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You must be a genius. Never heard anyone call somebody "Captain perfect" either. Pretty crappy insult.
Glad to see some people have enough sense to realize screenshots are software rendered though.

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Why would the settings on his device be shown in a screen shot that you're viewing on yours?
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You knew this was going to happen lol.
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AbhishekS said:
I put in these values using the Trickster app and my screen looked absolutely rubbish. There is no option to enable/disable Omap gamma in trickster, could that be the reason for the bad colors?
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Every screen is different, what looks good for me might look rubbish for you unfortunately :/
Also because someone asked for a before/after...
Now this will be highly unscientific and hard to reproduce but here's a before/after example (clicky for larger image):
Also advised you look at it with a good desktop monitor, and bear in mind that cameras are not perfect in any way so even if the camera settings used were identical and white balance set to match as closely as possible, it may not look to you as significant in terms of differences than it is to my eye. Nonetheless I can certainly see a difference especially in the gray and white tones.
The before example is not the stock kernel but simply the reference settings of all multipliers set to 200 and RGB gamma all set to 0. I believe this should be fairly similar to what stock kernel shows.

Still looks orangeish to me so I lowered red down to 220. But thanks anyways. I always love testing these.

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Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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You had a green tint before u changed it. I can that in the Google Search bar.
And what's funny is the color u recommended are extremely similar to mine lol.
*Multiplier*
Red: 235
Green: 170
Blue:206
*RGB Gamma*
Red: 4
Green: 0
Blue: 2
Trinity: 0
Omap:1
But yeah I had a very greenish tint in my screen. Made my keyboard look brown before I rooted. =|
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Justinhopaolo said:
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Amazing. Just amazing. Can't believe we still have people who say things like this.
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after looks better imo

Brightness Uniformity of Note 2 Display.

When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?

Okay, my eyes are playing with me; just washed my eyes and everything looks normal, what AMOLED should look like, early mornings, lol :silly:

winlinmac001 said:
When you go into LCD Test (*#0*#), I notice that the brightness is not really all that uniform on the display. If I bring the device close to my face I see the brightness as same and when I extend the phone further away from I can see a little difference of brightness (very minute difference; extremely hard to tell unless you play with the different brightness modes). To appreciate the difference you need to squint your eyes. Am I trying to be too nit-picky?
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yeah seems you're trying really hard to find any imperfections. "extremely hard to tell, play with brightness modes, squint eyes etc"
should i do this under a full moon or candle light?
i usually stay away from these threads but just found all the conditions you mentioned funny. just use your phone under normal conditions. i havent noticed a single flaw... cause im not looking & digging for them.
you have three threds open discussing screens, mura & audio problems... seems like maybe you're trying to convince yourself or others about something?
EDIT: Four threads.... Refurbished phone

Perhaps, I know I paid too much, and finding flaw's like these shouldn't be so easy. I mean, I've been through '3' Note 2 already, currently on my 3rd Note 2, and am I trying to mend my relationship with the Samsung Company, especially after facing more or less similar experiences on the S2 and Note 1. I know my AMOLED display is fine, but physical things like chrome-paint finish, and elevated home button are things I really hoped Samsung would improve their quality-control on; pretty soon, they will loose business as a result of this. I made threads not only to share my insight, but to also have an open discussion about everything I have come across with the Note 2. Not surprising, many have seemed to confirm the same things that I see. So, I'm just joining the bandwagon and moving along. :good:

I think I'm going blind because im very satisfied with screen on my note or maybe I'm not that picky. I be happy if it last next 2-3 years or until my next impuls buy.
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ithmjo creation
I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.

I don't think I can do that.
SlsAustin said:
I put the brigher note app on mine and I love it .Seemed to help the whites look better also.
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Which screen mode do you use and why

Which screen display mode do you use and why. I have been using auto but would like to play around with the different modes. I don't know which one gives best battery life or best picture etc
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I've just been using auto as well. The movie one looks the best to me but I haven't made the switch to using that all the time just yet
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Dynamic. Because if I wanted a dull, lifeless display with subdued color i'd buy some junker with a conventional LCD and call it a day. Super AMOLED is half the reason i'm loyal to Samsung, but color me not happy with the new, less vibrant calibrations on the N3 and S4. They definitely listened to the folks who've moaned ad nauseum over the past few years about wanting more "natural" color, obviously those people do a lot of very important photo editing and web design on their phones.
Luckily there's still a good amount (relative to LCD) of color saturation in dynamic mode which is especially excellent for games, something people actually do on a device like the N3.

Professional photo. Colors on the screen look amazing now!
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kgbeezr1 said:
Dynamic. Because if I wanted a dull, lifeless display with subdued color i'd buy some junker with a conventional LCD and call it a day. Super AMOLED is half the reason i'm loyal to Samsung, but color me not happy with the new, less vibrant calibrations on the N3 and S4. They definitely listened to the folks who've moaned ad nauseum over the past few years about wanting more "natural" color, obviously those people do a lot of very important photo editing and web design on their phones.
Luckily there's still a good amount (relative to LCD) of color saturation in dynamic mode which is especially excellent for games, something people actually do on a device like the N3.
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Yeah AMD your screen is gonna look like crap from the psychedelic ad nauseum. Your oled sub pixels are going to burn out much quicker and then you're gonna wonder why your videos and games look like a washed out LCD. Not to mention your phone will use more juice for the extra saturation causing more heat and potential burnout of your CPU/GPU.
Btw, op it is best to use movie for accuracy and battery life. The professional photo mode is a second good option.
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Granted i'm not a electronics engineer, but i'm not sure if saturation plays a part in burn-out as much as brightness. It would be interesting to know though whether or not higher saturation actually draws more power and causes accelerated dimming of pixels given identical overall light output - Displaymate didn't cover that in their review.
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Yeah AMD your screen is gonna look like crap from the psychedelic ad nauseum. Your oled sub pixels are going to burn out much quicker and then you're gonna wonder why your videos and games look like a washed out LCD. Not to mention your phone will use more juice for the extra saturation causing more heat and potential burnout of your CPU/GPU.
Btw, op it is best to use movie for accuracy and battery life. The professional photo mode is a second good option.
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Dynamic, because thats the whole point of a SAMOLED screen.

Standard seems a happy medium. Prefer movie myself, do a lot reading and it doesnt strain my eyes in dark room.

I had it on auto mode, just changed to dynamic. Not worried too much about the screen burning. Jump program... N4!!! I never keep phones that long anyway, might as well get the most out of them while you have them.
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[Q] Which Display Mode You All Are Using?

As the title says, which display mode you are using and your thought on why?

I personally switched over to the most accurate mode, funny cause it's called, "Basic Mode." lol. If you use any of the "amoled" modes, it will give you that oversaturated colors. It took me like a couple days to get used to the "accurate" colors though just caues everything was so vibrant before. Personal choice really.
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boodies said:
I personally switched over to the most accurate mode, funny cause it's called, "Basic Mode." lol. If you use any of the "amoled" modes, it will give you that oversaturated colors. It took me like a couple days to get used to the "accurate" colors though just caues everything was so vibrant before. Personal choice really.
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Ya i'm giving basic a try its different but color accuracy is nice.

I went to basic for accuracy then went back to adaptive because I like the way it makes colors pop.
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Basic, all my tvs are calibrated to D65/REC709 and it's nice to finally have a phone that can reproduce this.

started with adaptive the switched to basic and it just seems right

Been using photo.
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NYYFan02 said:
Basic, all my tvs are calibrated to D65/REC709 and it's nice to finally have a phone that can reproduce this.
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Here are some bit on the Rec709 ^_^ It can probably reproduce them better too!
The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used in virtually all current consumer content for digital cameras, HDTVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut. Even better, the Absolute Color Accuracy for the Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.5 JNCD, the most color accurate display that we have ever measured for a Smartphone or Tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than your living room TV.
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Why is color accuracy important?
Color Accuracy is especially important when viewing photos from family and friends (because you often know exactly what they actually should look like), for some TV shows, movies, and sporting events with image content and colors that you are familiar with, and also for viewing online merchandise, so you have a very good idea of exactly what colors you are buying and are less likely to return them.
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DisplayMate

I love the way adaptive goes color-crazy in bright sunlight, it's like turning the brightness to 11

Lol it goes to "11" brightness in all the other modes ad well.

I tried basic, the onlynthing i noticed is it gave a warmer yellow tint to white. None of the modes mute the oversaturation of colors on this phone. At least it doesnt on mine.I like the pop so it doesnt bother me. If oversaturation is a problem, you should consider an iphone.

abacus0101 said:
I tried basic, the onlynthing i noticed is it gave a warmer yellow tint to white. None of the modes mute the oversaturation of colors on this phone. At least it doesnt on mine.I like the pop so it doesnt bother me. If oversaturation is a problem, you should consider an iphone.
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Actually if you consider oversaturation a problem, go to basic mode. It has more accurate colors than the iphones. Here's displamate. Samsung is KING when it comes to display.
Basic Mode with the Standard sRGB / Rec.709 Color Gamut
The Basic screen mode provides a very accurate Color and White Point calibration for the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut that is used in virtually all current consumer content for digital cameras, HDTVs, the internet, and computers, including photos, videos, and movies. The Color Gamut of the Basic screen mode is very accurate, with a nearly perfect 101 percent of the Standard sRGB/Rec.709 Color Gamut. Even better, the Absolute Color Accuracy for the Basic screen mode is an impressive 1.5 JNCD, the most color accurate display that we have ever measured for a Smartphone or Tablet, which is visually indistinguishable from perfect, and is very likely considerably better than your living room TV.
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Trying basic now. It starting to grow on me.
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I like the adapt mode, but then I had a problem getting a good night exposure with the camera. Finally I realized it was the display mode screwing with how the photo was displayed, not the photo itself, and I've been on basic ever since. Love it.
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Is there any reason to believe that the display mode could drastically change battery life? Logically i cant think of a reason it would, but the only change ive made in the last 2 days is from adaptive to basic, and my battery doesnt seem to be draining near as fast as it had.

Basic is the best.
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Mr.Marc said:
Ya i'm giving basic a try its different but color accuracy is nice.
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Agreed 100%.

Basic is the most accurate phone display I've ever seen color wise and beats the iPhone 6 and 6 plus easily.

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the OnePlus 3's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

oversaturated
having come from xiaomi mi3 , i am a bit disappointed. find the colour bit oversaturated. can i change any settings?

[email protected] said:
having come from xiaomi mi3 , i am a bit disappointed. find the colour bit oversaturated. can i change any settings?
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You can change the white balance, but that's about it. You should be happy because most other amoled screens are painfully oversaturated. I feel this is just the right amount.

I dont know but does it look accuracy as LCD?I mean all amoled screen are pinky

GokulVSD said:
You can change the white balance, but that's about it. You should be happy because most other amoled screens are painfully oversaturated. I feel this is just the right amount.
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I agree. Most AMOLED screens, like Sammy's, are way too rich in color. This is the first display I've seen to hit it just on the mark. I prefer a little washed out/natural display, in terms of color balance. This phone has an excellent color pallete.

This phone was way way better whites than the Note 4 and 6P I had before.
However at low brightness Greys appear greenish. Very noticeable.

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This phone has an excellent color pallete.
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Yes, it's the best amoled!
(personal opinion)

HarrySteed said:
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Yes, it's the best amoled!
(personal opinion)
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Anandtech said this phone has the worst display they've ever reviewed.

kaspar737 said:
Anandtech said this phone has the worst display they've ever reviewed.
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(personal opinion)

HarrySteed said:
(personal opinion)
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Your personal opinion is invalid. The colours are as wrong as they can be.

HarrySteed said:
(personal opinion)
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No. As per measurement.

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Your personal opinion is invalid. The colours are as wrong as they can be.
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I've never held a oneplus 3 and I've read the anandtech review but would average Joe notice? Most reviewers said it's good nothing outstanding.

Unfortunately my Oneplus 3 has an unevenness in color display!
In the upper part of the screen, the colors become a bit more reddish, while in the lower part the tint becomes a bit more greenish.
This especially can be seen when turning brightness down.
Once seen, this can't be unseen and makes me very much think of returning the unit!
Is there anything else who has different hues in different parts of the screen?

Blueish
I don't like the blueish colours, oversaturation and small text rendering on my OP3.
Even colour temperature setting can't fully fix the blueish colours

Not sure why a lot of people are having issues with their contrast and saturation. My display is perfect. Blues are completely accurate, as well as every other color. This is hands down the best display I have seen. I love it. Blows Sammy's over exuberant color pallet away. This is all I did to adjust the display...

I had the Nexus 6P and that AMOLED is probably the best calibrated display and much sharper than OP3. I don't think it's a huge deal breaker here since the phone is so much faster, easier to hold and use. I really wanted to like the 6P but it just didn't have enough customizations even though custom roms are plenty.

I love the display. Its so much better than on the 1+1. Those blacks and colors.

I'm a very picky user for most everything on my phone. I have extreme ocd. I believe everyone's screen is different. My display in my OP3 is better than my S6 and my S4 as well as my honor 5x and Nexus 6p. It may also be preference because as I do love amoleds, this one is a bit duller than usual samoleds but more accurate. I have no color transitions no color issues at all. I have my white balance bar about 88% up to max. Personally, to me its looking excellent. Everyone's screen must differ.

kaspar737 said:
Anandtech said this phone has the worst display they've ever reviewed.
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yes they did , but in terms of Accuracy .
it is absolutely possible that it feels good to a not so keen user.
Also there's a possibility of better calibration via XDA devs

[email protected] said:
having come from xiaomi mi3 , i am a bit disappointed. find the colour bit oversaturated. can i change any settings?
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Completely agree with you. At first I thought it was just me. Coming from various devices including 6P,G4,Moto X Pure and N5 the screen on this 3 is terrible.
I've always preferred AMOLED over LCD as I found it easier on the eye. Returning my 3 as it's causing me eye strain (don't play games,Facebook etc).