So, the other day I purchased a Datacolor Spyder 4 Pro screen calibrator. Being a photographer I want all my (primary) displays to look as natural and true to what my eye sees as possible.
So I decided to try calibrating my Gnex screen. I don't know any good way of doing this so I had to improvise, what I did is I first took screenshots of the entire calibration process and came to the conclusion that it simply shows 5 images: one solid white, black, red, green and blue image and measures it to define the accuracy of the uncalibrated screen. Then having told the calibration software that the screen has built in RGB sliders (the gnex doesn't I know, but I ticked the option anyway, you'll understand soon why) it then gives me a screen where it measures from a solid white image how much bias there is in either of the channels (red, green and blue) and gives a clear diagram overview, the objective is to adjust the RGB sliders of the monitor to make the 3 bars align (thus having no bias/tint in either channel for a natural reproduction). What I did here is that I used the color control feature available in various custom kernels (I'm using franco) and adjusted the color multipliers until' I my calibrator reported it being even and natural. I also used the RGB Gamma for some minor fine tuning.
I returned to the home screen and WOW, it's looks better than ever, grays are perfectly natural with NO GREENISH, CYAN OR PURPLE TINTS anywhere! Whites aren't perfect, leaning more toward a bright light gray, but worth noting I'm having only 31% screen brightness and I'm not sure if AMOLED can achieve a pure bright white image without a ton of cyan bias.
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Long story short, I got an hardware screen calibrator and used it to assist me get the most natural values with the color control in franco's kernel and it just pure amazing with none of the tints that the gnex is known for having.
My final values:
NOTE: These values may or may not look good for you, every AMOLED screen is different and needs different settings, these are simply the settings that worked for me, what's best for your device might be completely different!
Multipliers: 233 175 210
RGB Gamma: 1 0 1
Trinity contrast: 0
OMAP gamma: 1.0/disabled
Are the multipliers in order as RGB? Because these settings just make my screen look orangey
First thing, thank you for post:good:, i had looked for somebody to do a true calibration ever since i bought my gnex, having been spoiled before by my nexus s slcd screen, which was an excellent batch, so moving to the SAMOLED HD, for me, wasn't as great as i had hoped.
Still even after trying all the presets and fine tuning it still is slightly off.. (annoying thing with these screens not being all the same and being so different on quality, so you can't simply just input the color values and get the same result).
Anyway i like your numbers, they look pretty god on my screen.
Off topic: I'm probably wrong, but i think read somewhere that going over 200 on the color multipliers was supposed to make the screen more susceptible to burn in?
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Are the multipliers in order as RGB? Because these settings just make my screen look orangey
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Thanks for the reply. They should be in order indeed. Note that every display is different so it may not be what's best for your individual device. Additionally, AMOLED screens I believe is said to wear/fade quite quickly compared to LCD with use and also due to the way the actual panel works in our screens each color channel will fade with different pace, effectively leading to unbalanced colors based on what you view on it; For example if you view a lot of red colors, the reds will start fading and thus everything will look a tad cyan-tinted. Finally there may be a difference in the kernel you use and the version of that kernel.
Simply put, unfortunately it's not guaranteed that what looks best for everyone else as each screen is different.
Oh, another thing I noticed; Screen brightness actually affects the color balance pretty largely. Higher brightness means less greens and more reds/blues.
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First thing, thank you for post:good:, i had looked for somebody to do a true calibration ever since i bought my gnex, having been spoiled before by my nexus s slcd screen, which was an excellent batch, so moving to the SAMOLED HD, for me, wasn't as great as i had hoped.
Still even after trying all the presets and fine tuning it still is slightly off.. (annoying thing with these screens not being all the same and being so different on quality, so you can't simply just input the color values and get the same result).
Anyway i like your numbers, they look pretty god on my screen.
Off topic: I'm probably wrong, but i think read somewhere that going over 200 on the color multipliers was supposed to make the screen more susceptible to burn in?
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And thanks to you for your reply. I actually believe I've heard someone that had used hardware to measure up the best settings for a natural 6500K color balance, but as I replied above, each screen is different and thus they were slightly too much on the blue/cyan end for me. To be honest, most settings I've tried that others have claimed to look great have always been too much green or too much blue. I've tried to adjust after my own eyes and gotten pretty close to what I believe to be good colors but always there is some kind of flaw, so I'm quite surprised to be honest I was able to get such a good overall result.
As for the color multipliers, I've heard it too but I have never seen anyone confirm it, so I'd call it off as a rumor. The burn-ins I've seen using values around 150-200 previously only apply to bright contrast colors and fades away within 2-3 seconds at most and 31% screen brightness is rather low I'd say.
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On another note.. I just want to add that this isn't necessarily a full calibration but just an attempt to reach the most balanced color values. When it comes to gamma and contrast however I'm not sure it's really possible to mimic that of an LCD screen due to the way AMOLED handles blacks and produces very vibrant colors.
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Thanks for the reply. They should be in order indeed. Note that every display is different so it may not be what's best for your individual device. Additionally, AMOLED screens I believe is said to wear/fade quite quickly compared to LCD with use and also due to the way the actual panel works in our screens each color channel will fade with different pace, effectively leading to unbalanced colors based on what you view on it; For example if you view a lot of red colors, the reds will start fading and thus everything will look a tad cyan-tinted. Finally there may be a difference in the kernel you use and the version of that kernel.
Simply put, unfortunately it's not guaranteed that what looks best for everyone else as each screen is different.
Oh, another thing I noticed; Screen brightness actually affects the color balance pretty largely. Higher brightness means less greens and more reds/blues.
And thanks to you for your reply. I actually believe I've heard someone that had used hardware to measure up the best settings for a natural 6500K color balance, but as I replied above, each screen is different and thus they were slightly too much on the blue/cyan end for me. To be honest, most settings I've tried that others have claimed to look great have always been too much green or too much blue. I've tried to adjust after my own eyes and gotten pretty close to what I believe to be good colors but always there is some kind of flaw, so I'm quite surprised to be honest I was able to get such a good overall result.
As for the color multipliers, I've heard it too but I have never seen anyone confirm it, so I'd call it off as a rumor. The burn-ins I've seen using values around 150-200 previously only apply to bright contrast colors and fades away within 2-3 seconds at most and 31% screen brightness is rather low I'd say.
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On another note.. I just want to add that this isn't necessarily a full calibration but just an attempt to reach the most balanced color values. When it comes to gamma and contrast however I'm not sure it's really possible to mimic that of an LCD screen due to the way AMOLED handles blacks and produces very vibrant colors.
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Actually deterioration is a problem with normal AMOLED screens. Samsung uses PenTile configuration to mitigate that in the SAMOLED and SAMOLED Plus variants. More info in the following interview with a Samsung engineer:
http://www.mobileburn.com/19548/new...ed-displays-last-longer-thats-why-we-use-them
I put in these values using the Trickster app and my screen looked absolutely rubbish. There is no option to enable/disable Omap gamma in trickster, could that be the reason for the bad colors?
Screenshot please
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Why would the settings on his device be shown in a screen shot that you're viewing on yours?
its looks like cyan effect for photo on my screen..:/
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Why would the settings on his device be shown in a screen shot that you're viewing on yours?
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Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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This works very well on my phone, but I change the omap gamma to 6
Thank you again :thumbup:
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Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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He's right, smartass, the screen shot is just the source of color, no matter how you calibrate your screen, every screen shot looks the same on other devices. We can only notice with real eyes contact.
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Ummm.. Before and after?? Captain perfect
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That makes as much sense as taking screenshots of different brightness levels.
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You must be a genius. Never heard anyone call somebody "Captain perfect" either. Pretty crappy insult.
Glad to see some people have enough sense to realize screenshots are software rendered though.
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You knew this was going to happen lol.
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I put in these values using the Trickster app and my screen looked absolutely rubbish. There is no option to enable/disable Omap gamma in trickster, could that be the reason for the bad colors?
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Every screen is different, what looks good for me might look rubbish for you unfortunately :/
Also because someone asked for a before/after...
Now this will be highly unscientific and hard to reproduce but here's a before/after example (clicky for larger image):
Also advised you look at it with a good desktop monitor, and bear in mind that cameras are not perfect in any way so even if the camera settings used were identical and white balance set to match as closely as possible, it may not look to you as significant in terms of differences than it is to my eye. Nonetheless I can certainly see a difference especially in the gray and white tones.
The before example is not the stock kernel but simply the reference settings of all multipliers set to 200 and RGB gamma all set to 0. I believe this should be fairly similar to what stock kernel shows.
Still looks orangeish to me so I lowered red down to 220. But thanks anyways. I always love testing these.
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You had a green tint before u changed it. I can that in the Google Search bar.
And what's funny is the color u recommended are extremely similar to mine lol.
*Multiplier*
Red: 235
Green: 170
Blue:206
*RGB Gamma*
Red: 4
Green: 0
Blue: 2
Trinity: 0
Omap:1
But yeah I had a very greenish tint in my screen. Made my keyboard look brown before I rooted. =|
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Amazing. Just amazing. Can't believe we still have people who say things like this.
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after looks better imo
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Does anyone know if there are any working ways to adjust color temperature? I think most methods require a modified surfaceflinger library. My screen is sickeningly bluish green.
Thanks.
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Does anyone know if there are any working ways to adjust color temperature? I think most methods require a modified surfaceflinger library. My screen is sickeningly bluish green.
Thanks.
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Sounds like a bad screen. I'd take it back. Mine is very balanced. Super saturated but very balanced.
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I agree, my first one had a bad screen and a dead pixel right in the center, the screen quality on my new one is better all around and I wasn't even expecting there to be an improvement
Thanks for the suggestions, but the other ones I've seen don't look any better in terms of their greenish-blue color cast. I've read it's typical of AMOLED displays. I just want a way to adjust white balance like CM has.
...and I've discovered the answer. Chainfire3D's Pro version has support for Custom color "nightvision mode". Basically, exactly what I wanted. It works perfectly! Do yourself a favor and get this and drop your green and blue levels down a tiny bit.
You just saved me a two hour drive to get a new phone. Great find.
Hi everybody.
I bought my Nexus in December, and some time ago I noticed that screen looks ugly on certain backgrounds, mainly gray ones. So I did a little investigation and it turned out that I was right: picture looks mostly okay on primary colors, but grays shows terrible smudging. I took a photo of it. Do you think it qualifies for a warranty repair? Any of you noticed something like that?
I attach a photo, it's out of focus on purpose, because otherwise there would be a rainbow goo on screen.
The screen doesn't look good at lower light with certain colors that's just how it is..
The smudges look like someone wiped the screen with their thumb.
Screen was cleaned before taking photo. This rainbow effect is more or less visible on any background, but gray is especially bad. Even scrolling webpages is a bit annoying, because starting from top there is a pinkish stripe, then normal, then pinkish again... Yuck.
i have the exact same problem! Gray and white is the worst, and lower backlight is worse. But I realized this is mainly the glass top's fault, while i scroll a page, i can see those sumdges staying in the same spot!, don't know whether a protecting film will help or not.
joshdu1125 so I'm not alone then. I had a protective film on screen until yesterday and removed it because I hoped it was it's fault. Turned out it's not. Contacted Samsung via email, wonder what they will say.
Handtec said that some of the first phones (first batches) have worse displays than newer batches. I already sent my phone to them to be replaced.
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screen issue
looks like its more or less same problem experienced by G.Note user, like myself..
G.Note Screen Problem Thread
try get "screen filter" from market and lower the intensity of color to let says 30%, check that same grey image, how does it look?..
My screen is much worse than urs if u wanna see... =.="
I am starting to think this problem is universal to all Samsung devices.. Zzzz
unfortunatey this is a problem with all samsung devices i suggest getting a kernel with color control such as francos or glados. its a lot better then the color control filter app and runs super smooth , francos kernel also pretty much doubled my battery life.
rey5757 you are right, less brightness = problem more exacerbated. I you have a photo of your screen, let us see it.
amcmearty I'm using Franco's kernel right now, but tried others too, to no avail.
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rey5757 you are right, less brightness = problem more exacerbated. I you have a photo of your screen, let us see it.
amcmearty I'm using Franco's kernel right now, but tried others too, to no avail.
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just go to G.Note thread in my last post, at page 65. I don even have to take "out of focus" photo to see it.
This is a problem with the screen at lower brightness levels.. it happens to just about everyone that greys and whites look bad.
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My phone also has the red stripe, and white is not uniform.
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This is a problem with the screen at lower brightness levels.. it happens to just about everyone that greys and whites look bad.
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I doubt that Everyone is affected by this, some people claims they have perfect screen on the other thread.
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My phone also has the red stripe, and white is not uniform.
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The problem with this shadow thingy is that is varies greatly on difference screen.
The "Size", "Darkness", "Area" of shadow are INconsistent. Some screen have shadow on top area of screen, some have it at corners, some have it at lower bottom, some have it all over half or screen. Then some have it but barely visible(maybe this fall in perfect screen category), some have it but extremely obvious..
How is all these random quality screen fly out of Samsung?..
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This is a problem with the screen at lower brightness levels.. it happens to just about everyone that greys and whites look bad.
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Found a perfect SCREEN which is Balanced at 0% brightness + 20% color intensity(screen filter):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21436956#post21436956
This is what a super amoled display should be.
compare his to urs...
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I doubt that Everyone is affected by this, some people claims they have perfect screen on the other thread.
The problem with this shadow thingy is that is varies greatly on difference screen.
The "Size", "Darkness", "Area" of shadow are INconsistent. Some screen have shadow on top area of screen, some have it at corners, some have it at lower bottom, some have it all over half or screen. Then some have it but barely visible(maybe this fall in perfect screen category), some have it but extremely obvious..
How is all these random quality screen fly out of Samsung?..
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¿Samsung? No thanks: P
Hi all. Few days ago, i've made a pure black image on my PC and set it as wallpaper on my Gnex. But when i view that photo in gallery (in full screen mod) i realize that screen is not 100% black, it's super strong gray but not black. I'm confuse that the screen is really Super AMOLED or a kind of LCD?
Its superamoled
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Although its true that in theory there would be no backlight for an OLED screen, there is still a small amount of current that goes through just below the threshold of on/off for no lag when going from black to something else. Unfortunatly, the tjreshold will not be common for every led, so some leds will be lit. Thats what produces the small backlight even when displaying true black
Its super amoled (or amoled HD or whatever they call it) and is able to produce true black.
Xda dark theme shows no color difference between it and the nav buttons on the bottom.
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Its super amoled (or amoled HD or whatever they call it) and is able to produce true black.
Xda dark theme shows no color difference between it and the nav buttons on the bottom.
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There is no difference because the soft buttons are part of the display. Turn off the lights and you will see the entire 4.65" display glow a dark grey. It's a bit of a disappointment actually, I have a Samsung focus and galaxy S2 and the displays are BLACK. Side by side you can definitely see the difference, in the dark I cannot even find my Focus, the nexus on the other hand glows bright enough to notice.
You guys need to remember also that this is a PENTILE display, in order to get the 720P res, Samsung went with a pentile display. There is a big difference between the Super AMOLED displays on the other samsung devices and the nexus. The not really pure black blacks is one of the cons of the nexus' pentile display along with a slight yellow hue, viewing angle and a few others covered in many online articles.
Don't get me wrong, the display is still very beautifull in comparioson to most other phones. The resolution is amazing, I played a 4.2GB MKV of Avatar with MX player and it played flawlessly and the full screen (4.65") video was gigantic and absolutely crisp. But it's still not the AMOLED that Samsung customers are used to seeing.
so pentile or not if it displays black all led is turned off and thus dark no?
i understand pentile may affect other color reproduction but true black must be true black coz led is turned off right?
my previous phones were a gs2 and vibrant, blacks are blacks on all of them including this gnex
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It's a PenTile Super AMOLED screen. This is as opposed to the Galaxy S II and Droid Charge which use Super AMOLED+ screens-- which use the traditional RGB stripe sub-pixel arrangement.
Looking at the button bar in the dark on my gnex, I can safely say mine is true black.
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No. Like the guy before said, there need to be still a low current on the display so that there would be no lag when switching from black to other colors because it takes longer to switch on the display than changing the color.
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For some reason these new HD amoled screens aren't showing total black like previous amoled screens. There are already threads we talked about theorizing why this is. Put next to the nexus one or galaxy s and its not as black. Perhaps its due to higher pixel density, or maybe a change in the technology. But you're not alone, just have to live with it.
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For some reason these new HD amoled screens aren't showing total black like previous amoled screens. There are already threads we talked about theorizing why this is. Put next to the nexus one or galaxy s and its not as black. Perhaps its due to higher pixel density, or maybe a change in the technology. But you're not alone, just have to live with it.
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Put the phone next to a Note and you'll cry foul. Colors, brightness, and everything look like crap when held side-by-side.
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Put the phone next to a Note and you'll cry foul. Colors, brightness, and everything look like crap when held side-by-side.
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I don't get it, since they are using the same screen (except the resolution), shouldn't they be the same?
There are some defective screens out there.
My blacks are black. Not grey, not almost black.
Black.
Is pure dark so important? How often we stare at our phone with a pure dark picture in a pure dark room?
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Is pure dark so important? How often we stare at our phone with a pure dark picture in a pure dark room?
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It's more of saving battery. When it's pure dark, the individual OLED's are almost completely turned off. I say almost because some current still runs through it but nothing like what an LCD would.
And it's better for contrast?
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LOL. Best. Comedian. On. This. Planet. Period.
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LOL. Best. Comedian. On. This. Planet. Period.
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LOL.
Learn to type, that is annoying. If that was an intentional lulz, you failed.
The blacks are pretty damn black on my phone, comparing with my gs2 if anything its just as black?
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Higher resolution will most likely result in more possible backlight from true black. (Because of the greater amount of leds being over the threshold)
And i cant says my screen is totally absent of any light, but it is damn friggen close.
Any AMOLED screen will beat the crap out of LCDs. The contrast is an order of magnitude higher thanks to the screen generating its own light, thus being able to shut down fully (or almost fully) to provide no light.
Why do you complain that there is a minuscule amount of current going through the current with a barely noticeable in pitch black amount of light being emitted, when any other screen will be VERY noticeable at night when displaying black?! This phone's screen is amazing. Yes, it's not perfect, but it's better than most (all?) other phones' screens out there. You know, screw that, this thing is probably SEVERAL THOUSAND TIMES BETTER THAN THE MONITOR YOU ARE CURRENTLY STARING AT.
Hello ..., is there any way to tweak the white balance ? I just got my tablet, it' s amazing by the way, but i want to make the white color a little bit cooler! Thanks!!
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Hello ..., is there any way to tweak the white balance ? I just got my tablet, it' s amazing by the way, but i want to make the white color a little bit cooler! Thanks!!
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It is possible by adjusting color temperature by by available yet atm
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It is possible by adjusting color temperature by by available yet atm
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Can you explain to me how i can do the adjustment?
Do i need to root the tablet or from the menu? (The only tweak i found from menu is the color profiles : amoled basic, amoled cinema, etc) I have a sony xperia phone and it has an option to adjust the white balance with a slider!
Thanks..
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Can you explain to me how i can do the adjustment?
Do i need to root the tablet or from the menu? (The only tweak i found from menu is the color profiles : amoled basic, amoled cinema, etc) I have a sony xperia phone and it has an option to adjust the white balance with a slider!
Thanks..
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needs kernel support, so be patient and wait until someone make it
Today I got two 8.4 Tabs, both wifi only versions in my hands and I was impressed, that the white color was different. Sadly, the whites on mine were a little bit more yellowish, warmer, and a little bit dirtier. Is this normal for samoled?
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Today I got two 8.4 Tabs, both wifi only versions in my hands and I was impressed, that the white color was different. Sadly, the whites on mine were a little bit more yellowish, warmer, and a little bit dirtier. Is this normal for samoled?
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my experiences tell not all screens produce the same color, some are yellowish, while others are slightly blue, which can make white color a bit grey, etc
once i wanted to buy a note2 but i found its so bluish and therefore no deal
so each time I buy a phone, esp amoled, I will check the screen (and other things of coz) before I pay
I currently have 2 Galaxy Tab has 10.5 inch at home and deciding which one to keep. The main difference between the two is that one has a newer build date and love one screen seems to be a little more orange brown tint to the white versus the other tablet seems to be a little more blue yellow intent. Other than that perform identically however I did notice that when I run the CPU temperature app that the one with the yellow blue tinted screen seems to run a few degrees cooler most of the time except when using Chrome when where the other tablet seems to run several degrees cooler but only when JavaScript is activated.
One little trick in addition to adjusting the temperature using the adaptive display were changing from AMOLED basic to Evelyn cinema to make it cooler, is to go into the accessibility settings and then go into divisions section and then go into the area where one can do a test of their color as if they needed adjustments because of their own visual impairment. If you run that test and intentionally miss order the color tiles, and then will activate the option to allow you to adjust a slider which can further give you A white screen that seems to be somewhere in between the really blue display and the really warm AMOLED basic
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Old thread i know but i just wanted to thank you for that tip Canadoc. I've been struggling with the excessively warm image from my Tab S for a year now and while putting it into "Cinema" mode fixes the white balance it also destroys the contrast by making all subtle dark detail just disappear. This accessibility method has given me much nicer whites without affecting the contrast other than removing the orange haze. I assume the colours are going to be slightly different now but i can't say i've noticed anything there. I wish the Tab S had the same display options as the Galaxy S5 has where you can choose the cooler white level without hammering the contrast too. Maybe it's something Samsung do in order to protect the lifespan of the blue sub-pixel?
So thanks again
When the tab s 8.4 came out the screen quality was a bit variable, but it's been months since I have have read of anybody having a problem, see if you cab get a replacement.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
When the tab s 8.4 came out the screen quality was a bit variable, but it's been months since I have have read of anybody having a problem, see if you cab get a replacement.
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Mine's the 10.5 and this is the second one i got which was exactly the same as the first one in screen tone.
I always wondered if third-world country`s got B-C grade stock, as the consumer protection can be poor or non-existent, maybe it`s cheaper for the re-seller to buy this lower grade stock with screen color problems ect, I dont know?
John.
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I always wondered if third-world country`s got B-C grade stock, as the consumer protection can be poor or non-existent, maybe it`s cheaper for the re-seller to buy this lower grade stock with screen color problems ect, I dont know?
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UK here and bought from John Lewis. I've heard plenty of issues with screen temp on these ones so it's fairly common. Just using it this morning and thinking it perhaps wasn't quite as white as i'd like it and checked the settings to see if it was still in the proper mode and it was, switched it back to the old one and don't know how i ever lived with that brown tone!
Under different light sources it can take a few minutes for your eyes to adapt to the screen, so white can look a little off while this is happening, as the human eye will normally auto white balance anything you look at.
Does you screen when browsing with a white background at night, but not totally dark still not look perfectly white after a few minutes of looking at the screen.
Everybody seems to see colors slightly differently, and some not so slight, did you see the white/gold blue/black dress debate.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...er-you-see-says-a-lot-about-you-10074490.html
John.
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UK here and bought from John Lewis. I've heard plenty of issues with screen temp on these ones so it's fairly common. Just using it this morning and thinking it perhaps wasn't quite as white as i'd like it and checked the settings to see if it was still in the proper mode and it was, switched it back to the old one and don't know how i ever lived with that brown tone!
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Under different light sources it can take a few minutes for your eyes to adapt to the screen, so white can look a little off while this is happening, as the human eye will normally auto white balance anything you look at.
Does you screen when browsing with a white background at night, but not totally dark still not look perfectly white after a few minutes of looking at the screen.
John.
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No it never looks like clean white to me unless i tilted it slightly back or forward and then i could see the tone shift to a cooler temp. I do keep the brightness down to under 10% most of the time and that doesn't help the white level either.
I can't say i ever understood the dress image, you can factually measure and define the colour on that one so i don't know why people were confused.
Have you had anybody else check your screen, do they see the same problem, though at 10% brightness the screen is never going to look really white, I always keep mine on Auto -5 , I have the RGB sensor set on Auto i cannot even remember what it`s really called as i have never changed it, but in Auto it is supposed to keep the whites looking white, what is yours set too.
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Shriker said:
No it never looks like clean white to me unless i tilted it slightly back or forward and then i could see the tone shift to a cooler temp. I do keep the brightness down to under 10% most of the time and that doesn't help the white level either.
I can't say i ever understood the dress image, you can factually measure and define the colour on that one so i don't know why people were confused.
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Warm colours
My tab s 8,4 screen has a brownish layer, which makes whites mor brown and the colours less sharp. But when I put pressure on my tab, the "layer" goes away.
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Have you had anybody else check your screen, do they see the same problem, though at 10% brightness the screen is never going to look really white, I always keep mine on Auto -5 , I have the RGB sensor set on Auto i cannot even remember what it`s really called as i have never changed it, but in Auto it is supposed to keep the whites looking white, what is yours set too.
John.
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Sorry for not getting back to you earlier, car knocked the phone pole down and been without for 12 long days. *sigh*
Anyway, i haven't had anyone else look at mine but i don't need anyone to anyway, it's a very overly warm tone. I've never used the RGB adaptive sensor thingy as it only works in a few apps that i never use anyway.
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My tab s 8,4 screen has a brownish layer, which makes whites mor brown and the colours less sharp. But when I put pressure on my tab, the "layer" goes away.
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Do you see a much whiter tone when you choose Cinema mode? If so and you like it then you really should try the method in this thread to keep it without also cranking up the contrast.
Hello everyone. I am planing to upgrade to a new phone, probably the N5X, but the problem is I can not test one myself. I have watched several reviews and on each one of them I noticed that the screen has dull colors, even when compared to the sony z3. Colors look washed out, with a yellowish tint. This is the only thing keeping me away from buying this phone. Is it as bad as it seems ? Did any of you notice this the moment you started using your N5X ? Any feedback is appreciated. :highfive:
I haven't really found the colors dull. The contrast and saturation is not good as the AMOLED on my Samsung but it wasn't annoyingly so.
It is a warmer display but the Mar or Apr update added a setting to use cooler calibration, which makes it comparable to other "cool" displays. I actually don't turn on that setting because it makes the display too white (for my liking) but it is mostly a matter of what your eyes get used to. Many people find the cooler setting to be preferable.
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but the Mar or Apr update added a setting to use cooler calibration, which makes it comparable to other "cool" displays.
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Where can I find that setting?
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Sn0w0nS said:
Where can I find that setting?
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Settings->Developer Options->Cool Color Temperature
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Settings->Developer Options->Cool Color Temperature
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Thanks!
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Actually, barring any weird manufacturing issues, the N5X has one of the most accurately calibrated displays right out of the box. The colors might seem dull when compared to an AMOLED or the Triluminous display on your Z3, but they're accurate, not oversaturated. People tend to like saturated and vivid color. ****, I like the saturated color on my Sony 4K TV (uses a similar "Triluminous" color gamut that your current phone uses). I calibrated it one day and hated the color and lack of overall "pop".
Luckily, if you do pull the trigger on an N5X, you can tweak the color settings on your screen to your heart's content using a custom kernel (which you should absolutely have considering it's a Nexus phone) and kernel manager app.
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Actually, barring any weird manufacturing issues, the N5X has one of the most accurately calibrated displays right out of the box. The colors might seem dull when compared to an AMOLED or the Triluminous display on your Z3, but they're accurate, not oversaturated. People tend to like saturated and vivid color. ****, I like the saturated color on my Sony 4K TV (uses a similar "Triluminous" color gamut that your current phone uses). I calibrated it one day and hated the color and lack of overall "pop".
Luckily, if you do pull the trigger on an N5X, you can tweak the color settings on your screen to your heart's content using a custom kernel (which you should absolutely have considering it's a Nexus phone) and kernel manager app.
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I've used color calibration for my m8 before, but when I went ahead and tried to calibrate the n5x display to my liking, I kept coming back close to the default settings.
Haven't used amoled phones in a while but I'm happy with the screen so far, left all calibrations to default.