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hi all
i recently asked a retailer about the price for the arc and acr S recently ( dunno why but o have the urge to do so and i did ) he said the price for ARC is RM1000 and ARC S is RM 1300 which is surprisingly cheap ..and i do love the phone ..never seen anyone used it but i looks gorgeous in videos ...i just bought a galaxy ACE about a month ago and i am planning to change one at the end of the year at december ...so should i get the arc ? i know it have some crappy processors and low ram but i want to hear some opinion for the users ...is it worth the RM 1000? and i do expect the price to drop to RM800 at the end of the year ...
Look wise, the arc is top tier, hands down. I guess it really ties down to what you expect out of your phone. Personally, a phone to me is to remain a phone and not a mini laptop, so the specs of the Arc S is good enough for me. It's fast enough to do everything that I want; stream videos, browse the internet, call/email/text etc. All those hype about new phones, dual cores and etc, what is the purpose exactly? It loads a page faster in 1 sec? Ridiculous. Didn't mean to rant haha, but yeah. If you want a phone that stands out and looks good and is good for everyday use, I would recommend getting the Arc/S. Not to mention, the Camera is awesome.
Hey tohno,nice seeing u here brick guy. Im using arc s rite now n lovin it. Anyway i bought mine from a guy who just used it for two months at rm900. Its used but the guy is new with android n havent mod anything yet so i think its fair if i said that it come fresh from the shop
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I say it doesn't worth it, now you have new Sony phones, hTC and many.
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A medium-high performance phone, with excellent camera and versatile multimedia functions, paired with large high resolution phone for low price? Damn yeah it's worth it!
Buy Arc S
Buy Arc S ...
Great phone ...
Bought one on the launch date itself ...
Xtremely happy
sweet! then i think i will eye for the arc s then!
oh hi malice!
I bought mine 'cause it was on Special + 50€ cash back. So i got it for 350€ in last July.
Love it except the screen which is too weak. And now it is quite weak for new apps.
I'm looking to get a Nexus in a couple of month. But since i unlocked my bootloader I really enjoy it more.
This is definitely not a waste of money.
MAX--K said:
Love it except the screen which is too weak. And now it is quite weak for new apps.
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Screen is strong enough and there are no new apps that I am aware of that require a certain screen strength...
iridaki said:
Screen is strong enough and there are no new apps that I am aware of that require a certain screen strength...
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My screen has a broken line on the left side. It has been always carried in a leather holder.
Try to play GTA3 with the arc.
It is a good phone but it is (a bit) outdated.
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Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
MAX--K said:
My screen has a broken line on the left side. It has been always carried in a leather holder.
Try to play GTA3 with the arc.
It is a good phone but it is (a bit) outdated.
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Ah, so you need an enhanced durability screen because you are a passionate GTA3 player... Ok, got it!
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I still prefer the thinner look of the arc...
(is that a racoon above me ??? !!!)
giorgobiani554 said:
Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
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Remove the shutter proof thing.
Did it 3 months ago and no scratches!
@ OP:
If you want it, get it now!
By the end of the year it will be totally outdated, well, it is already somehow.
Looking forward to the Galaxy S III or a Sony with Snapdragon S4 as the Arc gets too slow after a few days of uptime
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Great phone!
This phone is great! In poland he cost 1300 PLN, this is not too big price for that phone. He have great camera (720p Video [i record a video with friends and that camera have really good quality, better than both normal cameras]).
I did, I removed but as I said scratched with cleaning cloth
giorgobiani554 said:
Please don't buy neither Arc nor Arc S, you will face some very depressing problems with these phones, as Arc user I don't suggest this phone because of very poor quality of the phone. You maybe extra careful with your phone but you won't avoid housing crack, scratched screen and body damages. Housing crack appears on almost all Xperia Arc phones, as for screen I would say, its very bright and high quality but, it is not gorilla glass, and you can scratch it by mistake for example when cleaning, as I did. As for body I would say that design is very sexy but you will notice small dots around the screen, and on the back panel, paint gets peeled. My advice, hold the phone in vacuum or wait for Xperia S!
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Really? I didnt know...cause i have dropoed my arc so.many times...i have slept over it, i aint using a screen protector, still the screen is fine! Its quite durable mate! The only problem is..it gets really slow sometimes! So even i wouldn't suggest to purchase arc. But i still love it <3:-D
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well i am actually of buying this phone cause of the relatively cheap price...i just got my ace just a month ago but seeing the arc's cheap price i just can't resist to buy it...and by the end of the year i think arc s will be below RM1000 by then it's a sure buy ..i cant afford high end phones ( expensive ones at least ) like S2 ( it's too common!! ) , sensation etc ...
If I were you, I would buy LG Optimus 2X instead. It has Tegra 2 chipset and a dual-core processor. That makes it much better phone. Cons are it doesn't have as good camera, and the screen is a bit smaller(4.2 > 4.0).
Here in Switzerland it is even cheaper.
I've my arc s for close to 5 months and I do not regret it. It's camera is one of the best among the smart phones for the price of it. When my friend who own the iPhone 4 took the same night scene with my arc, the arc's capture the scene very well, not too bright or too dark -- like what the iPhone does.
Responsiveness is reasonably fast even though it's not rooted. Depending on how you handle the phone, mine is still scratch-free and beautiful. No cracks. The factory screen does trap specks of dust quite easily, but this can be avoided if you apply another matte filter over it.
The phone is light and still able to fit into my pocket despite it's 4+ inch screen. The big screen makes it comfortable to browse webs, watch videos and play games.
What I find a nuisance in the arc is the small internal memory capacity, which means you'll have to be selective in the apps you store in the phone.
Definitely worth buying & keeping if you're a light to medium-usage user.
Good luck in your choice!
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Ok I have to say I am exited about this phone but now after spending some time on this forum and the sony forum I am starting to get cold feet. I don't mind changing the back cover, but I see other serious issues with the screen (there is a long thread in the sony forum about it), not to mention camera button, volume, alarm problems.
It seems for a 450 euro phone it's a lot of flaws. I know in forum it's mainly troubleshooting, but buying a phone in a country where there is no warranty is scary, see my other thread.
So what is the general consensus about reliability? Also is it true the latest phones produced have fixed the the light bleed already fixed?
I own a Z1C and I can't say anything bad about it. Please remember that happy people tend not to share their good experiences, while those with faulty units tend to exaggerate their unhappiness, making them more visible.
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Don't believe everything you hear in the internet. Samsung, HTC, Apple, LG, Nokia...They all have interest to bash this phone on the net.
Great battery life, Great screen with really good blacks, Snapdragon 800, Aluminum and glass, fast 20MP Camera. What's not to love?
Never judge a phone until you hold it yourself in the store! Don't believe internet until you check it yourself, ever!
I thought the same as you until I held that phone in the store and then everything changed.
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Don't believe everything you hear in the internet. Samsung, HTC, Apple, LG, Nokia...They all have interest to bash this phone on the net.
Great battery life, Great screen with really good blacks, Snapdragon 800, Aluminum and glass, fast 20MP Camera. What's not to love?
Never judge a phone until you hold it yourself in the store! Don't believe internet until you check it yourself, ever!
I thought the same as you until I held that phone in the store and then everything changed.
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I agree with you but sometimes if u r unlucky enough then u can get a faulty product too and it can happens with any phone.. as i bought galaxy s4 and replaced 3 times but got weird display issue and finally asked for refund. As soon as i will get my refund i will buy z1 compact. So always buy from somewhere where u will get replacement easily.. and also dont blame all the phones if u get a faulty phone.. manufacturing defect can be present on any phones from any company..
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I agree with you but sometimes if u r unlucky enough then u can get a faulty product too and it can happens with any phone.. as i bought galaxy s4 and replaced 3 times but got weird display issue and finally asked for refund. As soon as i will get my refund i will buy z1 compact. So always buy from somewhere where u will get replacement easily.. and also dont blame all the phones if u get a faulty phone.. manufacturing defect can be present on any phones from any company..
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Agreed. :good:
Had my z1c about a month and no problems here. I also read about screen problems before buying and was a little nervous but I've had zero issues with screen. I also read a few complaints about a wake up delay but I haven't experienced that either. No random reboots (which I had on all my previous phones) I'm still on sony's 4.3 OS. It's very stable and no reason for me to upgrade to 4.4 at the moment. This thing is the best phone I've ever had, no complaints.
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I've had the Z1 for about a month now, it is a good device. But I'd say the price tag is a bit high for this device.
Display is good, but not the best for this price tag.
Camera is good, and that's all it is. I wouldn't stop carrying my camera around, but yeah, it still does take a few nice shots here and there.
Speaker is a big let down. And the software seems to be getting a bit buggy with each update. That I'm sure they'll fix.
Literally half an hour between removing the shipped screen cover which was dirty and putting on a screen guard I had a tiny scratch on the screen. Depressing.
I'm not too happy with the call quality either. But it's probably my service provider.
Pro. Battery life. It's AMAZING. 2 days easy with pretty decent usage.
(for me) New phone after a realllllly long time.
It is a snappy, quick phone. So if you're looking for that, then go for it.
If it's for videos or music, I'd give it serious thought.
At the end, there will be die hard fans and haters, you have to figure this out for yourself!
Just my 2 cents.
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thanks for all the feedbacks given.
I will be using the phone mainly for maps, music, Skype, mail, internet and the casual pic here and there. it sounds strange but in the US I wont be using this as a phone beucase Verizon will force me to get data, but in Europe I am good to go.
I never had a smart phone but I had a ipod touch 4g but I need something with gps, better wifi reception and more customizable.
It's too bad the speaker stinks, I think the speaker in the touch it's pretty decent and I didn't have to carry a headphone with me when I am biking around. So perhaps that's something I should think about.
Speaker is rather good quality and clear. Only it reproduces a little lower sound.
I got this phone coming from the Nexus 4. It is a really good phone. Takes great pictures and videos. Sometimes they don't look that good on the phone screen. I cast them to my 42 inch TV and they are crystal clear. Battery is great. I really like the audio quality. Better than the Nexus 4 and 7. Call quality is good. I always have rooted my phones but this one has enough things to tweak I can get it the way I want. No need to change anything. And the great thing is even in a poor signal area the battery doesn't drop like a rock like it has on my other phones. I recommend it.
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There is no real reason to replace the back cover now. It only affected early production models.
Getting a $1 screen protector for the back is a far more convenient way to keep the phone looking good, rather than swapping it out for glass.
jewelkobayashi said:
There is no real reason to replace the back cover now. It only affected early production models.
Getting a $1 screen protector for the back is a far more convenient way to keep the phone looking good, rather than swapping it out for glass.
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and how do I know if it's a later production? is there a particular date? I see the production number but since I buy it online it's hard to know. Sony always has some problems with their top of the line electronics, vaio, cellphones, etc and are never good at admitting or replacing the faulty units. Look at the problem with their sony vaio 13 and wifi.
I've had mine for 2 and a half months so far and it has had absolutely zero issues. Everything works exactly as it was supposed to work. Display, back cover, camera, buttons, MicroSD card/slot, GPS, battery, you name it. It has never had any weird reboot issues either. I have tested RomAur 1.2, 3.0, and official and unofficial CM 11 nightlies. In fact, I wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read this thread.
It is a great phone. Most of the complaints are nit-picking as we strive for absolute perfection (not a bad thing!) As it is, it is better than all the competition as a good all-rounder.
I have to say owning from 3g iphone to iPhone 5 and I'm on android from lg P990 sgs2 sgs3 and 4 htc one one x and now I have this only drawback huge ugly bottom front side and uncomfortable when I use it with one hand rest is a almost perfect phone for me
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Guess I have the early version of the phone.. cause I have the flash bleeds when I make photos at night or in the dark room.
So far I love this phone if only for this issue.
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Guess I have the early version of the phone.. cause I have the flash bleeds when I make photos at night or in the dark room.
So far I love this phone if only for this issue.
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I also have this issue and as per box information my phone was imported to India on march..
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I'm a long time HTC sensation user and have modded it all the way up to lollipop. Sadly, the wife just dropped it and cracked her entire screen - just today. It was a fun, slo-mo event. Happily, that means it's time to upgrade. sssshhh I know I can buy a new screen...but it's time for an upgrade after 4+ years.
I'm pretty sure I'm going for the m8 rather than the s5, but I'm curious about any, shall we say, un-"reviewed" pit falls?
Things like:
I know the battery is non removable but the S5 has a removable one. We had the sensation so long we burned through a few ankers and it really helped the life span. Comments on the real world battery? One of the strength, to me, was the removable battery. I have an old itouch, with a, let called it, hard to deal with battery. It was nice to not be forced to upgrade when the battery became is hosed.
The modding power. I quite enjoy rooting/s-offing/breaking my phone - but ideally not bricking. I know htc has been a tad cranky in the past with this, it seems okay looking at the development community and I'm not reading up on too many issues but what are experiences between rooting/roming this vs the S5?
Any, I love this phone but, damn, this one thing really suck but there's a easy work around type things? Or it's be the best phone except the battery is ****? Things the main reviewers won't really say?
Hoping to join you guy here from the sensation forums in a few days(and of course root my phone asap)
It just doesn't feel right in my hands. Can't explain it but maybe it's just me and my dislike for curved phones. I still don't like how uncomfortable it feels to hold.
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It just doesn't feel right in my hands. Can't explain it but maybe it's just me and my dislike for curved phones. I still don't like how uncomfortable it feels to hold.
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Enough that the phone isn't worth it? Have you moved on? Wished that you had an S5, nexus 5, etc? Any other major regrets besides the feel?
I have tried every other competitor till now. G3 - sluggish and heats up fast. S5 - build quality, knox and no gpe posibility. Z3 - Too pricey, low on updates and development, otherwise a spectacular phone. OnePlus - No stable ROM to date, even CM11SR44 is buggy.
The battery on the One M8 has been great for me. I always get 4-5h SOT through 1-2days. Keep in mind that I come from Z Ultra and Mi3 that both had 3000+ mah batteries.
My advice is to buy this phone, you will not regret it.
This might actually be the first phone I manage to keep for two years (thus avoiding the inevitable arguement with the wife) hahaha
Here are my problems
1. Camera covers scratch really easily. My main back camera was scratched quite badly, even with a spigen slim armor on all the time. I sent it in for repair and they replaced both the front facing and the back main covers. The back currently is being protected by a 'screen protector'. The coating on the new front cover scratched/came slightly off in about a month and I rubbed the rest away. It remains scratch-free, but (number 2)
2. Dust can get under the speaker grilles and get stuck under front facing camera. Not sure if it is due to the replacement of the covers or what. Just last month, I went to Australia for a military exercise and it was very sandy. I believe it was the sand that went in. With that said, my platoon mate using the same phone did not get even a single speck of dust stuck under his.
I messaged the service centre and they said they would clean it for free under warranty, even with my bootloader unlocked, but the technician would do a diagnostic on my phone. The CSO asked for my IMEI number to check if I was under warranty, which I refused to give. Funny part is, shouldn't all M8s be under warranty since it was released only this year?
With regards to the battery, it is definitely awesome, although mine seem to have been weakened with me abusing it.
Personally I really like it-it's my favorite phone since the HD2. I agree it can be awkward to hold and the camera can be scratched, but for me these problems were easily solved by getting a decent case for it(i.e. not one of the barely covers it slim or dot view style cases, one of the bigger ones that actually protects it. I also put a screen protector on it just to be safe. I've dropped it twice from pocket level and it's fine).
The only thing I've noticed that I think could possibly be better is the battery life. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad per se, but I do feel it could be a little better. Of course, there are power saver apps and whatnot you can do to help with that.
And that's it.
What I like is how customizable it is. The only thing we can't currently do is put W8 on it, but given how wide open this phone is, that may just be a matter of time and interest. Meantime you can pretty much do anything else you want to it, which I love. There's a lot to be said for having the choice to use it however you want to. Can't recommend it enough.
Battery life is pretty good on the m8 especially on gpe a gpe m8 I would rate higher than a nexus device go for the m8 you won't be disappointed
One issue and that's the volume keys, everything else seems perfect to me (fantastic build quality, decent camera, decent battery, easily converted to gpe which is really nice).
Edit: Oh yeah second issue is that the htc keyboard sucks, thankfully that's a non issue because you can easily get better keyboards on the store.
I got the M8! Thanks for you thoughts. Already boot unlocked and Rooted, sadly I'll need sunshine not firewater to s-off when I go there but it's a great phone. Having had a Sensation for the lat 4 years...we've forgotten how fast phones can be! Cheers!
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Enough that the phone isn't worth it? Have you moved on? Wished that you had an S5, nexus 5, etc? Any other major regrets besides the feel?
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Enough that I'm constantly trying to get something else!
Had the Nexus 5 for almost 11 months and absolutely loved the feel of the phone in hand!
I've been trying to get a hold of a Z3 but all the Canadian ones are only 16gb so it's kind of disappointing. I'll wait for a next generation SD810 phone before I switch again. GPE Lollipop has reduced my enthusiasm to find something else!
Hey guys,
I' m thinking about buying an Xperia z1 compact, great performance, awesome camera ...
but I've read that some users had hardware related issues with it .
I want to know your opinions, advice, experiences from using this phone ?
oh, how about the waterproof side is it reliable ?
cheers
nan92 said:
Hey guys,
I' m thinking about buying an Xperia z1 compact, great performance, awesome camera ...
but I've read that some users had hardware related issues with it .
I want to know your opinions, advice, experiences from using this phone ?
cheers
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Just got it now for almost a month, coming from a Motorola Razr I. So i don't have very much experience with this phone.
But i like it. It's fast, great photo quality and i like the leds. Nicely integrated into the call speaker (or how do u call it..).
Battery is good. Last 3 days on stock, almost 2 days on CM. But that's all i tested with no modifications whatsoever to the roms.
The only advice i have is get at least a back cover protector. After just 2 days of getting it, going to work, traveling the back plastic cover is full of scratches (small and big ones). After a week it didn't look nice anymore and i got the silicon cover i wanted. Now everything is good, but those pesky scratches are still there. Thinking of replacing that back cover.
I've had mine for about 14 months now, and I would buy it again today in a heartbeat. It's still lightning fast and the Sony KitKat build is extremely stable (haven't tried LP yet). No desire to upgrade to anything else and I expect to use this phone for a long time. Not to mention you can get this for very good prices now.
Go for it! It's a solid phone that can still contend with recent high-end android devices.
Though, as Hazou said, you might want to invest in a back cover protector, since its backside is not very scratch resistant.
Been used it for almost a year and just upgraded to SGS6 while still keeping z1c as a spare phone at the moment. When it come to the price & performance point, z1c is unbeatable on market. The only and one thing I dislike is the camera focus bad but all other stuffs on this phone is good.
The support is ongoing in this year and get 5.1.1 around August but that's probably the last major update and we'll need devs to port future OS from Z2/Z3c.
No complain about the phone. Just that u can't take photo with flash in the dark. (which u probably should not even use led unless the phone has xenon flash)
But sometimes I do envy phone with double tap to wake and manual control and multi Camera mode that will nv be available on z1 compact.
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Looking for an unlocked phone around $100. Looking at a seller on Swappa who does LG G2's for $99 but used. I've recently stumbled across an eBay seller with brand new LG G Pro's F240k's for $109 or so. Is it worth getting the LG G Pro in new condition for US MetroPCS usage? I know I'd be missing out on LET but is it worth getting it today?
I would see what else you could get for this price range. My main sell point for this phone was the home led light which I love (most unique I've ever seen before), but other things upset me. I expected the camera to be on par with G2's, but it's not at all. Really wasnt much of an upgrade from my galaxy s2. GPS is also a little funky from 2 different phones I've tested on, however with a little disassembly I was able to improve mine. Besides that, the phone is great (enough cpu, enough battery) but if those 2 things happen to be sell points for you, I would get a G2. A G2 is definetly better than this phone though, the reason I didnt get it was because I didnt like the power button on back design. It feels awkward to me
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I would see what else you could get for this price range. My main sell point for this phone was the home led light which I love (most unique I've ever seen before), but other things upset me. I expected the camera to be on par with G2's, but it's not at all. Really wasnt much of an upgrade from my galaxy s2. GPS is also a little funky from 2 different phones I've tested on, however with a little disassembly I was able to improve mine. Besides that, the phone is great (enough cpu, enough battery) but if those 2 things happen to be sell points for you, I would get a G2. A G2 is definetly better than this phone though, the reason I didnt get it was because I didnt like the power button on back design. It feels awkward to me
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That helps for sure. I have a Kyocera Hydro Wave for Metro PCS which was free (thank god because it blows) but needs to be replaced. The last flagship phone I had was a Note 3 when they first came out. The G Pro on eBay is brand new but the G2 is used. Thoughts on that? Any camera would be better than this piece of junk lol.