Charging problems with official extended Battery - Galaxy S III Accessories

Hi guys can't find an exact answer in search, I have a galaxy s3 i9305 but I'm assuming that part doesn't matter, just got the genuine samsung 3000mah battery and its taking 8 hours to charge on both stock rom and sentinel rom, using a non samsung cable and a 10v iphone mains plug with genuine samsung dock I'm getting 300ma using the App Store app to monitor, if I remove dock it goes to 500ma which is weird and I want to keep dock, if I use genuine samsung cable i ordered online as I don't have the original it charges at just 100ma so anyone a clue whats going on and what do I need to get the full 1000ma and charge in like 4 - 5 hours? I expected more charge time with the bigger battery but not double, please help.
Thanks
Tony

Not one person got the extended battery from Samsung and having slow charging? Just tried another cable and got 900ma without dock and 300 with so why's it so low with dock?

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2A vs. 1A charger

In the meantime I got inspired by some threads in which people claimed that 2A (amp) charger will make it faster to charge up my note then original 1A charger. I bought original Samsung 2A charger for Samsung galaxy tab and tried that out and I must say that during the first week or two the charging time decreased from around 2.5 - 3 hours into something around 1h 40-50 min.
Later on everything returned to standard 3 hours though, charging with 2A charger is almost identical to 1A charger so from my experience there is no added value with this approach (unless ICS will make a change, or some custom rom).
For anyone interested I enclosed picture where in the top row you may see charging with 1A charger after 1h50min, 2h40min (both just random pics), then when this app (https://market.android.com/details?id=net.whph.android.battery) said it is 100% and the last picture is when galaxy note (Android) system said it is 100% (green battery icon). In the bottom row there is the same scenario with 2A charger. I am on the stock rom 2.6.35.7-N7000XXKKA.
Im not sure but I think you need a kernel that allows more than 1A charging for the 2A charger to work.
EarlZ said:
Im not sure but I think you need a kernel that allows more than 1A charging for the 2A charger to work.
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I guess so, what makes me slightly uncertain is that initially, charging time was around 2 hours ...
This is an interesting thread. I'd like to get more information about 2A chargers and whether they really make a difference.
Also I heard that when plugged to a TV (using the MHL cable) the phone may actually consume the battery more, even when plugged to the charger simultaneously. therefore if 2A chargers charge faster, it may also solve this problem.
Qvp said:
This is an interesting thread. I'd like to get more information about 2A chargers and whether they really make a difference.
Also I heard that when plugged to a TV (using the MHL cable) the phone may actually consume the battery more, even when plugged to the charger simultaneously. therefore if 2A chargers charge faster, it may also solve this problem.
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I actually have both, micro USB to USB and micro USB to MHL cables. Wasn't able to test them for a longer time as they sometimes work and sometimes don't, especially mhl cable shows videos for like 30 seconds and then there is a lost signal message on my TV, then it wakes up, then it is gone again ... I could fiddle wit it, but will rather wait for ICS upgrade and then will return to it again.
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Iphone charger
I am using the iPhone charger. It is a 2A and so far I see an improvement in the battery life. With the original charger (and BB one) the battery reading was 2100mAh . Now is 2600mAh. I don't know why or how.
Also I see a sightly improvement in how the battery lasts for normal use. I get around 18hours
antonioeram said:
I am using the iPhone charger. It is a 2A and so far I see an improvement in the battery life. With the original charger (and BB one) the battery reading was 2100mAh . Now is 2600mAh. I don't know why or how.
Also I see a sightly improvement in how the battery lasts for normal use. I get around 18hours
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the iPhone charger is 1a... Only the ipad charger is 2a
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What we need is someone with 2 notes with dead batteries and plug the original charger 1a on one and a 2a charger on the other and see which one gets fully charged first! Maybe its me but I can definitely see a difference between the original and the one I'm using (playbook charger 1.8a)
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big samm said:
What we need is someone with 2 notes with dead batteries and plug the original charger 1a on one and a 2a charger on the other and see which one gets fully charged first! Maybe its me but I can definitely see a difference between the original and the one I'm using (playbook charger 1.8a)
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I did it, and while not with 2 notes side by side, you can have a look at the pictures at the 1st post, the time and charging rate shows its pretty same on the stock rom whether you use 1A or 2A charger. (Although it was very different first one or two weeks, after that battery get used to 2A charger and charging is as slow as with 1A ...)
antonioeram said:
I am using the iPhone charger. It is a 2A and so far I see an improvement in the battery life. With the original charger (and BB one) the battery reading was 2100mAh . Now is 2600mAh. I don't know why or how.
Also I see a sightly improvement in how the battery lasts for normal use. I get around 18hours
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How did you measure the current in mAh or what app did you use? Thanks.
My bad. I am using the iPad chargers. not iPhone . Those are 2A. To verify I am using battery pro monitor.
Here is a screenshot.
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SGN stock batt with ipad charger?
Hi, I see some of you are using 2A/ipad charger to charge you SGN. My question is, will there be any side effects on that could harm the stock batt in short or long run?
FYI, atm, I have an ipad charger for home and car and i intend to just use the same charger to charge all devices including my SGN. Im not looking for a fast charging option, but just a hassle free and conveniences.
I appreciate if you could give suggestion on a dual port charger (for home and car) where I can charge my devices simultaneously at one time.
No harm as long as the volatage output from your charger is 5v. This is what pushes the current to ur device. Higher it goes more it pushes.
However the current that the charger provides decides how fast it can charge. This will also depend on the device. If the device is manufactured to charge at 1 amp and u use a 2 amp charger then it will only use 1amp. If however u use a 750mah charger it can only use 750mah and charge slowly.
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Hyperion dual dock with extra dock for extra batteries! 19.99 - 24.99 eBay MANY PICS!

So as promised, here's a review of the Hyperion desktop dock. Just trying to help the community!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635558
Hyperion dual dock with extra dock for extra batteries! 19.99-24.99 eBay.* MANY PICS!
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This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
Well if you have this then charging one while using one.... You should never worry. I know I charge mine overnight then if need be, swap. I've got a total of 3 batteries but can only use 1 at a time so for me, it works.
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lanwarrior said:
This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
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Funny, I just checked the charging status and it shows AC on mine, not USB. My charged from %1 to full in just over 4 hours. This was in the dock, in the phone on an Anker battery. Not sure why yours may be different.
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Nice. Just what I've been looking for
lanwarrior said:
This is a DECENT dock, if you don't mind the SLOW charging.
When I charge my Note on this dock by itself (NO 2nd BATTERY charging), the dock only charge via USB mode, compared to AC mode. You can see this using Battery Monitor Widget or via Settings --> About.
It is by design since I have TWO (2) of these, ordered in the span of 4 weeks as replacement, and both exhibit the same problem.
I also test this by comparing the charging time via the Dock (USB mode) and then via Samsung original charger and the Dock charge twice as long.
Looking at the dock power supply, it only output 1.5mA. Given that the dock have the ability to charge BOTH the Note and 2nd battery, that's about 0.750mA for each charging circuit. The power supply should output at least 2mA and split that between the Note circuit and 2nd battery circuit in the dock. Samsung original charger output 1mA by itself.
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the device will not draw 1A if it is not a samsung charger
it is a safety protocol that the device will draw less power through non-samsung chargers
even if the dock was 2A, the device wouldnt charge at 1A -> that would mean you would damage the second battery because it is charging with >1A
dakleenupman said:
Funny, I just checked the charging status and it shows AC on mine, not USB. My charged from %1 to full in just over 4 hours. This was in the dock, in the phone on an Anker battery. Not sure why yours may be different.
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You probably have the "re-designed" version?
As I mentioned above, I have 2 of these and was emailing the manufacturer and seller back and forth about this issue. The seller tested the unit that they have and it exhibit the same problem. So it could be the version I have have different circuitry or something. I bought this a while ago, so I gave up pursuing it since it took a long time to resolve the issue that time.
The dock is working (charging that is), so its not that it is defective. But I just want to share my experiences for those who need "fast" charging (4 hours with AC v.s. 8 hours with USB) and don't have 3 batteries either.
PS: I am sure it is not my Note, because when I plug the phone with Samsung original charger, and even a NewTrent battery pack, I got "AC" charge and not USB.
lanwarrior said:
You probably have the "re-designed" version?
As I mentioned above, I have 2 of these and was emailing the manufacturer and seller back and forth about this issue. The seller tested the unit that they have and it exhibit the same problem. So it could be the version I have have different circuitry or something. I bought this a while ago, so I gave up pursuing it since it took a long time to resolve the issue that time.
The dock is working (charging that is), so its not that it is defective. But I just want to share my experiences for those who need "fast" charging (4 hours with AC v.s. 8 hours with USB) and don't have 3 batteries either.
PS: I am sure it is not my Note, because when I plug the phone with Samsung original charger, and even a NewTrent battery pack, I got "AC" charge and not USB.
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Oh. I had no idea there were different versions. I just bought this and wanted to share my experience as well.
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my note geniune charger cannot charge tge anker 2700mah batteries

hi firstly i bought this chargrr r
ebay.com.sg/itm/260922341954?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
its a geniune charger for the batteries of the note and it works on my original battery and 2 batteries i bought made in china with no brand for the note.
next i buy the 2700mah anker batts with the unicersal charger.
amazon.com/Batteries-SGH-I717-International-Anker-Multi-purpose/dp/B007JSSNHI/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top/191-7690781-5534019
the problem is the geniune charger cannot charge the anker batteries even though when i place them inside the charger it lights up to show its charging but after 5 hours of charging when i put the anker battery inside my note it shows 60% which means it didn't charge. the universal charger charges the anker batts fine since it came with them.
my geniune charger works cos it charges up the original battery. pls help.8
I have two Samsung vehicle chargers, both have failed, one the micro-usb does not work with my note, but is fine with the portable batter charger.
The other simply does not receive any current from the vehicle, even after a careful cleaning and spray with contact cleaner.
Never had these issues with any other vehicle charger.
Mine isn't the vehicle charger it's the geniune charger from samsung.
Do i need to list out the stats?
your samsung oem charger is designed to only charge the samsung battery.
But, there is a mod to the charger that you can do to fix this. Its a very simple solder.
I trying to find where I read this then I will post the link
here is the link and it will explain
or not (first post)
ok google this
diy galaxy note charger
it will be the one that says. "How to fast charge your galaxy note"
an xda dev figured this out
to digitbar thanks for explaining just curious though i was able to charge my no name brand batts on my samsung charger
digitbar said:
here is the link and it will explain
or not (first post)
ok google this
diy galaxy note charger
it will be the one that says. "How to fast charge your galaxy note"
an xda dev figured this out
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Actually this isn't what i was looking for.
If you read my original post again i'm talking about the genuine charger not being able to charge 3rd party anker batteries. What you're showing here is using a 3rd party charger on my phone which isn't what i'm looking for.
I want the charger aka battery charger to be able to charge anker batteries. It has nothing to do with the phone itself. My phone charges the batts fine.

Secondary battery charger?

Hi,
Initially i was thinking about getting a bigger 3000+mah battery or something but i've realized that i like the form factory of the GNex so i won't go for it.
Now i have 2 batteries the 2100mah and the original one that came with Verizon GNex.
I have looking for a external battery charger and found this
Has anyone here tried these, they seem to be the cheapest way to make use of both batteries.
Also the current wall charger i have reads the following:
input: 0.4A
Output: 5.3V=2.0A
Is the ebay charger in the above link close to the above specs as i don't know what they actually mean
Thanks in advance
I can't answer your first question but I can answer your second one.
Basically, your current charger is capable of charging the spare battery at a faster rate than the eBay charger.
The "charging rate" of 2.0A/2000mA versus the eBay charger's 0.8A/800mA.
When I'm looking for chargers, I prefer chargers that have an output of 1.0A/1000mA or greater so that my battery or phone is charged faster.
800mA is better than average. I'd find that acceptable.
I find most chargers have an output of 500mA. As a comparison, the OEM Samsung USB wall charger has an output of 1.0A/1000mA.
EDIT: In case anyone's worried about blowing up their battery using a charger with a higher amperage output then OEM, here's some reading material... bit.ly/xl2NPI
The only downside to using anything over 1.0A is that it may shorten the lifespan of your battery (the higher the amperage, the faster the charge, but it also comes with more heat, and more heat is bad for your battery).
What kind of wall charger are you using?
I bought a Cellet dock/charger. It can charge the phone and an extra battery at the same time. I mostly use it to only charge an extra battery. Sometimes it takes 4+ hours to charge a battery that is connected in the extra battery slot. WTF??? 4+ Hours?
ChappellHeel said:
What kind of wall charger are you using?
I bought a Cellet dock/charger. It can charge the phone and an extra battery at the same time. I mostly use it to only charge an extra battery. Sometimes it takes 4+ hours to charge a battery that is connected in the extra battery slot. WTF??? 4+ Hours?
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I'm just using the OEM Samsung USB wall charger that came with my phone. It's sometimes listed as a "travel" wall charger. It has an output of 1.0A.
What's the output of your Cellet adapter (i.e. what you plug into the wall)? I'm pretty sure it has an output of 1.0A from what I've read.
Have you tried one of these?....IMO its better than carrying a couple of batteries around.
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-Exte...d=1348865471&sr=1-1&keywords=portable+charger
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707BeastMode707 said:
Have you tried one of these?....IMO its better than carrying a couple of batteries around.
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-Exte...d=1348865471&sr=1-1&keywords=portable+charger
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Good for traveling, but not good for when you're on the go.
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ChappellHeel said:
What kind of wall charger are you using?
I bought a Cellet dock/charger. It can charge the phone and an extra battery at the same time. I mostly use it to only charge an extra battery. Sometimes it takes 4+ hours to charge a battery that is connected in the extra battery slot. WTF??? 4+ Hours?
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I am using the official HP touchpad charger, they are monstrous.
It charges the 2100mah battery from being dead to 100% with sync on in 1.5 hrs.
4+ hrs. is too long.
You can get on wallmart here or on ebay.
I haven't been this lucky with other chargers i've bought on ebay.
707BeastMode707 said:
Have you tried one of these?....IMO its better than carrying a couple of batteries around.
http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-Exte...d=1348865471&sr=1-1&keywords=portable+charger
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Ya i like these, but i would have to carry a cable and a battery at the same time, plus i don't have a tablet or any other gadget that uses microUSB charging.
On another note do these come with 2A charging instead of 1A??
if yes than i might just pick one up.
Alternative?
I've recently purchased this official charger. Does the job perfectly fine and is very small and sleek
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Samsung+Battery+Charger+Stand+without+Battery+for+Galaxy+Nexus&oq=Samsung+Battery+Charger+Stand+without+Battery+for+Galaxy+Nexus&sugexp=chrome,mod=10&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Samsung+Battery+Charger+Stand+without+Battery+for+Galaxy+Nexus&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=Q3VnUJWgH4WyhAeEhIHwAg&ved=0CDoQrQQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=5842132675ef9dd1&biw=1366&bih=653
Pretty sure you'll be able to get that in the states. Found it on Amazon UK here

buying new sgn charger

Recently, my sgn n7000 charger(1yr old) got damaged.
I am looking to buy new charger of same model, but after searching a lot, i coudnt find a new genuine charger online, most of them are boxed and loosely packed.
i got some gud deal for a charger but its 700ma, it will take a lot of time to charge..
While searching, i got at these product
http://www.ebay.in/itm/Buy-Online-S...?pt=IN_Mobile_Accessories&hash=item3384a4ebb8
but on the samsung website, the note n7000 is not in the compatible list.
i wanna know, will it charge my note properly or not. Will i t damage my battery..!
or else pls give some link whr i can get genuine charger.
charger
The charger looks like an indian version of the one my daughter received with her galaxy s4. White is the colour of her phone and the colour of her charger, it also was 5v at 2A. To my knowledge the charging of the battery within the phone is controlled by the phone and as long as it is supplied with its minimum requirement of 5v. it will charge at whatever current it can within the control of the power management in the phone.
Hope this helps ? I did look at the samsung website in india and they had power units for sale. I dont know where you are ?
Samsung India has 700ma chargers listed..
And do u charge ur note with that one..? Us thr any problem.?
charger
No mine is a 5v 1A samsung charger. I also have an incar charger which is a standard usb charger for any make of phone and that supplies 5v at 1A. I also have a Yiboyaun unit from china which charges just the battery, I have 3 additional batteries I use and charge with this unit from china. I have had this setup for more than a year with no problems.
You can charge N700x with the Note 2 charger (which puts out max 2A). It charges slightly faster than the original Sammy 1A charger/cable. It's perfectly safe because the phone will not take in more current than it's configured.
seowphm said:
It charges slightly faster than the original Sammy 1A charger/cable. It's perfectly safe because the phone will not take in more current than it's configured.
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If it charges faster than 1A its not limiting the input. The note 1 battery is made for 1A chargers. Using 2A will limit the life span of the battery.

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