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Competition thru litigation, just desserts

The tally mark for lawsuits Apple and Samsung are currently embroiled in with one another has reached 21. With Samsung being a real technology producer that Apple is absolutely dependent on, Apple may have bit off more than it can chew. They must think they're a different company than they are and forgot for a second that most of their sales aren't based on technology but marketing gimmicks instead. Samsung wants to teach the little Apple punks a little lesson. The saga continues. http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/231602074
The Netherlands is a Euro member that excludes itself from the rulings on bans of products by other Euro member states. Germany was a hit against the Samsung Galaxy Tab, a ridiculous one at that. Now Samsung is going after Netherlands to start. I expect its litigation to expand into Korea and Japan fairly soon.
Here are some great quotes hot off the presses. I love what I'm hearing.
“We’ll be pursuing our rights for this in a more aggressive way from now on,” Lee Younghee, head of global marketing for mobile communications, said Friday in an interview.
"We've been quite respectful and also passive in a way. However, we shouldn't be … anymore."
Earlier this week, an unnamed Samsung executive said that the company plans to take Apple's unannounced iPhone 5 to court in Korea the moment it debuts. "For as long as Apple does not drop mobile telecommunications functions, it would be impossible for it to sell its i-branded products without using our patents," said the exec. "We will stick to a strong stance against Apple during the lingering legal fights."
Samsung Executives are now also regularly referring to Apple as patent "free-riders." It looks like Samsung won't accept Apple's bull**** any longer and put it in its well deserved place. My message to Samsung. Show no respect for Apple as a competitor. They know nothing of the concept. They deserve everything you can throw at them. They started it, teach them a lesson.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/hardware/handheld/231602074

Good hope they really bend them over.
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tenaciousj said:
Good hope they really bend them over.
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Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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nate420 said:
Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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Its not gay, apple is a *****
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1. Why does everyone think Apple invented video conferencing?
2. Why does everyone think purchasing from Apple is "American?"

abowlby said:
1. Why does everyone think Apple invented video conferencing?
2. Why does everyone think purchasing from Apple is "American?"
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Steve jobs is a nazi zombie with psychic and brain washing powers over the simple minds of america and with 10 year old patents involving almost any new technology produced today. he has the "legal" right to fight any competition and sometimes win, due to the ammount of income and taxes he pays every year, the american government will stand behind him.........
Im gonna wiki this^
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nate420 said:
Y you gotta go gay right away......... Lol
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I lol'd.
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US Judge Grants Injunction on the Galaxy Nexus

Way to go, Apple. Those on the fence better get yours now.
http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3126934/apple-samsung-judge-bans-galaxy-nexus

apple has no case here, they only banned it because apple was crying about the "irreparable" damage done from selling gal nexus, they're so desperate that they would pay a 95million dollar bond for it knowing that google now=/= siri and that android has had voice search for a long time now..
what apple is trying to do here is decrease the influence of android, they are just desperate for more market share..we all know suing google over google now apple has no case whatsoever..

AznDud333 said:
apple has no case here, they only banned it because apple was crying about the "irreparable" damage done from selling gal nexus, they're so desperate that they would pay a 95million dollar bond for it knowing that google now=/= siri and that android has had voice search for a long time now..
what apple is trying to do here is decrease the influence of android, they are just desperate for more market share..we all know suing google over google now apple has no case whatsoever..
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Yes, while I'm sure Google will be able to appeal the case, it still bugs me.

In the long run the apple will rot if they keep this kind of stuff up.
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Iphone is the one who should be banned, they keep complaining that these phones have some of the iphone pattens!! the iphone is to damn plain, and they should be banned for using the pull down notification witch its been android's first feature..

I'd love to buy a nexus but I think we may see jb on our device(hacked on)
Anyway maybe we should buy a nexus to support google
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grawkiller73 said:
Yes, while I'm sure Google will be able to appeal the case, it still bugs me.
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its just the justice system around here bro..whoever has more money will usually win the case..i've seen hobos sentenced to 5 year in prison after turning himself in for stealing 20 dollars and ceos who stole millions of dollars get sentenced 30days in jail..
to be honest..the first iphone was somewhat of innovation, sticking touchscreen and phone together... but over the years apple has done nothing except patent trolling, what did they really add? wallpaper and siri? the amount of innovations we've seen on android has long surpassed whatever apple did..remember the fact that android got voice search first..

I read the article. Apple said in their obligatory statement that "phones are looking and feeling more like the iPhone and iPad".
Frankly, I've yet to see an iPhone as big as an SGS3. And everyone knows that Apple has had all kinds of problems/complaints about Siri.
Grow up, Apple. Your stuff was going to be duplicated (and made better) eventually.
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sparkie6point0 said:
I read the article. Apple said in their obligatory statement that "phones are looking and feeling more like the iPhone and iPad".
Frankly, I've yet to see an iPhone as big as an SGS3. And everyone knows that Apple has had all kinds of problems/complaints about Siri.
Grow up, Apple. Your stuff was going to be duplicated (and made better) eventually.
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perhaps samsung can sue apple for copying the enlargement of screen size then
on a serious note, this is all getting ridiculous..gal nexus is nothing like iphone LOL.it's ergonomic unlike ibrick..

AznDud333 said:
its just the justice system around here bro..whoever has more money will usually win the case..i've seen hobos sentenced to 5 year in prison after turning himself in for stealing 20 dollars and ceos who stole millions of dollars get sentenced 30days in jail..
to be honest..the first iphone was somewhat of innovation, sticking touchscreen and phone together... but over the years apple has done nothing except patent trolling, what did they really add? wallpaper and siri? the amount of innovations we've seen on android has long surpassed whatever apple did..remember the fact that android got voice search first..
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Pretty sure the iPhone was not the first touch screen phone. Apple is not known for innovation, they are known for imitation with a slight twist. If anyone should be getting injunctions against their products, it is Apple.
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I find it more than a little suspicious that the SAME JUDGE ruled in apple's favor in both this case & the galaxy tab case. I think I smell an iFan, how about you?
"This kind of blatant copying is wrong and, as we've said many times before, we need to protect Apple's intellectual property when companies steal our ideas."
But it's ok when YOU steal ideas & blatantly copy designs, right? I'd like to see apple get sued for copying the LG Prada's design, the Xerox Alto's OS, and Google's notification bar.
God I hate this company. I cannot believe the bull**** they get away with. Every time they start to feel threatened they try to sue their competition into oblivion. Disgusting.

Didn't android get voice search functionality in Eclair that came out in 2009? Didn't siri come out in 2011? Yeah the judge is a total itool
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Apple can't create without Steve Jobs(R.I.P) So their plan is to eliminate the competition in court...lol pathetic, Just like there fan boys.
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This is a SGH-T989 forum not let's start a thread about the nexus and complaining about apple when its unrelated.
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lol I just saw this in the most recent thread I had no idea what forum it was in
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Hoezack said:
Apple can't create without Steve Jobs(R.I.P) So their plan is to eliminate the competition in court...lol pathetic, Just like there fan boys.
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LOL
steve jobs never created anything..he vowed to destroy android infact..
let see..UI , mice keyboard =stolen by steve from xerox, then stole by bill gates
tablet=stolen from microsoft
touchscreen= stolen from G Samuel
voice search= stolen from google
they're just patent trolls..honestly..the giant apple logo seems to attract people with a weird genetic disorder that causes them to lose their mind over that specific logo.

JPOKeefe said:
This is a SGH-T989 forum not let's start a thread about the nexus and complaining about apple when its unrelated.
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You have a good point, but when a thread is made about apple having a successful ban on a great phone like the nexus, u have to expect some anger. Maybe it should be in the Nexus general thread?

AznDud333 said:
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steve jobs never created anything..he vowed to destroy android infact..
let see..UI , mice keyboard =stolen by steve from xerox, then stole by bill gates
tablet=stolen from microsoft
touchscreen= stolen from G Samuel
voice search= stolen from google
they're just patent trolls..honestly..the giant apple logo seems to attract people with a weird genetic disorder that causes them to lose their mind over that specific logo.
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I'm not trying to be mean but you really don't know what you're talking about. Please read more about technology and its history before making posts like these.
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Hoezack said:
Apple can't create without Steve Jobs(R.I.P) So their plan is to eliminate the competition in court...lol pathetic, Just like there fan boys.
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They were patent trolls when he was alive and they're patent trolls now.
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This has nothing to do with the SGS II, and there are plenty of threads in General about the subject.

If the judge in Samsung vs apple case allows this I'll be at a loss for words...

www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/samsung-objects-to-gratuitous-images-of.html?m=1
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Raver27 said:
www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/samsung-objects-to-gratuitous-images-of.html?m=1
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I think that this Judge has no idea what she is doing, I wonder what product she uses.
Almost all her rulings have been over turned by appeals courts and she has always sided in the case of Apple.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a .....

My bad but what does it mean ? Didnt understand anything lol
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bikrame said:
My bad but what does it mean ? Didnt understand anything lol
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Basically Apple is using pictures of Steve Jobs in evidence photos (him holding the iPad when it was unveiled in 2010, etc.), presumably to win sympathy from the jury since he's dead and all that jazz. Samsung said, "those pictures have nothing to do with the evidence!" Judge Hoe...I mean Koh said, "Yes they do, feel free to use them Apple." So Samsung said, "Fine you can use them, but if you're going to let them use those pictures of Jobs, you have to let us quote what Jobs said about going thermonuclear on Android [from his autobiography]." The Judge said no. So basically, she keeps siding with Apple on everything, and it's effing ridiculous. She's either a fangirl herself, or she's getting paid off by Apple behind the scenes.

So wait, because Steve Jobs said that he would spend his dying breath to destroy Android because it infringes his patents, that means that it's evidence against Apple? If anything it shows that Apple truly believes that they did infringe on their patents...
And their using photos of Steve Jobs to display the product, not just random photos of Steve for sympathy.

android >> apple all day every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What Apple is doing is ridiculous. Its the same as saying no one else can manufacturer a 52" 16:9 device with a screen that displays moving pictures a (TV) I hope some judge rules that they not only lose these ridiculous cases but have to pay damages, court costs and the legal fees of everyone they attempted to sue.
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www.fosspatents.com/2012/07/samsung-objects-to-gratuitous-images-of.html?m=1
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http://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...-ruling-on-3-samsung-devices-in-munich-court/

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http://www.foxbusiness.com/technolo...-ruling-on-3-samsung-devices-in-munich-court/
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That's the sad part, as more and more international courts throw out Apple's ridiculous patents and claims, this "judge" keeps giving Apple all the leeway they want in this case, while denying pretty much all of Samsung's motions

z0phi3l said:
That's the sad part, as more and more international courts throw out Apple's ridiculous patents and claims, this "judge" keeps giving Apple all the leeway they want in this case, while denying pretty much all of Samsung's motions
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yeah man it is ridiculous.. a lot of countries have already banned samsung from selling the note.. smh

How much you think apple paid for this verdict?

http://m.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-v-samsung-decision/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Was never going to be a fair trial in an American courthouse, just they way the world operates.
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This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

blackdragon79 said:
This is BS verdict for real. They brought in a jury that knew nothing about patents laws. The judge had to give them a crash course in it. Fishy business. So do this mean no galaxy s4. What's next apple going sue Google claiming Android os infringed on apple BS ios
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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jury was a bunch of apple fanboys..
it's really pathetic to let a bunch of people who have no real knowledge when it comes to this kind of stuff let them dictate these type of lawsuits..

Iphony89 said:
This was all about the older samsung phones I think, I don't see it affecting our current or future galaxy devices.
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I sure hope not. Samsung need to stick it to apple or just development for them all together
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

I wonder if everyone in the jury owns an iPhone 4S in an Otter Box...? The thing I love most about my Samsung GS3 is the fact that it's not an iPhone.

Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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The fact that Samsung were awarded nothing at all in their counter claim just proves that the whole thing was rigged...can't wait for the Note 2. Even before I bought my first Samsung phone I was never fond of apple products and this just increases my stance.
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Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/

hayzooos said:
Never stood a chance as this was held literally in Apple's backyard.
As for the future, who knows, but this is a really big deal. With what was granted, no phone maker will come close to an iphone design again for fear of a lawsuit with now a precedent. Worst case is manufacturers start to question if Android is a viable ecosystem considering everything it runs on is probably sue-able by Apple now.
They hopefully stop with Samsung and don't go further as Sammy was their biggest threat. But they might now set their sites on HTC as well and be the final nail in that coffin.
While this is bad enough, I think the worst is because it sets a standard and Apple now has control over what we know the mobile industry today.
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They shouldn't have been allowed such broad patents in the first place. What's next apple going start trying to patent numbers?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Wearespacepeople said:
Does anyone have any links to more on Apple vs Samsung? I coulda swore I read recently that Apple lost to Samsung is another country and now Samsung is suing Apple. Can't find it though :/
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Apple is now banned from selling the I phones/iPads in south Korea And I think they have to pay Sammy, 22000$? And Samsung has to pay them I think 1300?
But that's just south Korea
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Apple was like I'll give you 10%
Judge was like that's too little
Then both said eureka
The more we charge Samsung the more we both get
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Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Appeals will be fun. Both sides were playing laying the ground with for appeals during the trial incase of a lose.
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Its gonna be appealed and go on for years.... the judge even did a doulble take on some of the juries verdicts... Apples victory was so lopsided foul play is obvious and should make the appeals a breeze
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Love to see apple fall flat on it's face
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

I hate apple for this...
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those guys in the evo lte forum are........ i was trying to alert them but they just started being butts because i type fast. This is not school. I really feel for Samsung here and HTC is no better with the impending doom looming(Apple/Nokia). Its crazy how they got nothing but owe so much and in time this will directly effect customers.....

I hope and pray that them bastards get a taste of their own medicine against moto/Google
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Apple gets no respect for this.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

It would be awesome if they can ban new iphone sales in the USA lol

Came across this article, Pay Back is a b+*** lol, I wish they can ban the sales! ^_^
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/is-the-next-iphone-in-already-in-patent-trouble/
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g2uzer said:
Came across this article, Pay Back is a b+*** lol, I wish they can ban the sales! ^_^
http://m.techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/is-the-next-iphone-in-already-in-patent-trouble/
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That will be awesome
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Payback is a biitch!!!
Lol
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Awesome for who, exactly? Do you own HTC or Samsung stock or something?
Consumers (i.e. you, me) don't win when products are banned or pulled from the market.

tamasrepus said:
Awesome for who, exactly? Do you own HTC or Samsung stock or something?
Consumers (i.e. you, me) don't win when products are banned or pulled from the market.
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You are right consumers don't win but maybe in the long run it teach there greedy asses a little lesson which may in turn eventually help us consumers. Companies have worked togethor in ways similar to tuis whole situation for years and the apple decided to be ignorant. If theu would just keep working togethor and let us consumers decide for ourselves instead of trying to force our hands then everyone wins. I understand there are as many faithful apple guys as there are us android guys. People will get what they prefer on there own. I don't care for ios so no matter what happens I will still use an android phone and ios users will still use iphone. It should be our choice. No theres
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Thing is, I know so many people who would only buy an Iphone... I expect to have to order several of the new one's as soon as they're officially available for folks at work...

Exactly just as I would only buy android. That's what I mean it should be our decision all this ban this ban thay sh1t is for the birds. I want to pick what phone I have I don't want apple or samsung as far as that goes to choose for me. I personally chose the galaxy s3 and anyone who wants an iphone and want lte with should have that choice as a consumer. They want android users to not get google now and ios users to not get lte. Bullsh1t we should habe the right to choose whatever the hell we want
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tgamble160 said:
Exactly just as I would only buy android. That's what I mean it should be our decision all this ban this ban thay sh1t is for the birds. I want to pick what phone I have I don't want apple or samsung as far as that goes to choose for me. I personally chose the galaxy s3 and anyone who wants an iphone and want lte with should have that choice as a consumer. They want android users to not get google now and ios users to not get lte. Bullsh1t we should habe the right to choose whatever the hell we want
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tell that to apple who got our Android products banned multiple times and continues to strive to do so. i know that competition is good and always will be but i can't help but get some pleasure seeing them get into trouble for once instead of us Android folk continuously getting it up the behind.
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ky0nkyon said:
tell that to apple who got our Android products banned multiple times and continues to strive to do so. i know that competition is good and always will be but i can't help but get some pleasure seeing them get into trouble for once instead of us Android folk continuously getting it up the behind.
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Funny thing is android is still climbing after all those daggers it is getting from Apple. The numbers speak for themselves.
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Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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nexussgeek said:
Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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Exactly!
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nexussgeek said:
Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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+1
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nexussgeek said:
Apple should get a taste of its own medicine
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+10

tgamble160 said:
You are right consumers don't win but maybe in the long run it teach there greedy asses a little lesson which may in turn eventually help us consumers. Companies have worked togethor in ways similar to tuis whole situation for years and the apple decided to be ignorant. If theu would just keep working togethor and let us consumers decide for ourselves instead of trying to force our hands then everyone wins. I understand there are as many faithful apple guys as there are us android guys. People will get what they prefer on there own. I don't care for ios so no matter what happens I will still use an android phone and ios users will still use iphone. It should be our choice. No theres
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Exactly, very well said!!
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Anything that can be done to these super greedy conglomerates is OK in my book
If it were up to Apple, there would be no other option but the iPhone...
Thankfully, it is not up to Apple.

As much as people dislike Apple, think about this.
"The next generation iPhone 5, which Apple Inc. plans to release this week, could not only boost the tech giant's bottom line - but could give a significant boost to the overall U.S. economy."
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Why do people keep comparing a phone to an operating system.
I don't like the iphone, but I do like samsung phones.
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I gave up on apple many years ago when Eve bit that piece of fruit rotten to the core
I always disliked their products. Now after apple sleazy tactics - I hate them.
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verboten said:
As much as people dislike Apple, think about this.
"The next generation iPhone 5, which Apple Inc. plans to release this week, could not only boost the tech giant's bottom line - but could give a significant boost to the overall U.S. economy."
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not if all that money goes outside the country from outsourcing.
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I don't know how to feel about it. No competition is a bad thing, but Apple deserves it.
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