unrooted, on stock.. can't check for updates - Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti

Hi everyone, I unrooted my note 8 using the toolkit and i never modified the stock firmware in any way, but it's still not letting me check for updates on the device because it detects it as modified..
I confirmed the unroot doesnt work since titanium backup wont open
what else can i try?

Triangle away, have you tried using that?
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It does not support the note 8 so I haven't
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theraker007 said:
I confirmed the unroot doesnt work since titanium backup wont open
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You mean "the unroot did work", and you are not presently rooted, right?
Did you simply try rebooting? I was confused about the update not working, then realized I simply needed to reboot, then the update worked fine.
If any bloat apps were even frozen in Titanium, you need to unfreeze them. I know you said you didn't modify the firmware. But you might have missed this, or didn't consider it "modifying the firmware".

Did you install busybox? It's possible that Samsung's looking for things other than the SU binary and busybox is one of the things a lot of folks install immediately after SU.

All those things are accounted for. The device status still says custom though. Weird..
Oh well
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theraker007 said:
All those things are accounted for. The device status still says custom though. Weird..
Oh well
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Did you remove or freeze any apps while rooted? If so then did you make sure to restore them before you unrooted and tried to update?

Use the PCsoftware "kies" of samsung , that will let you update / upgrade even if you are rooted.
It shows the latest firmware and your firmware so you know if you need to update or not.
You will lose root if you decide to flash firmware.

It may sound ridiculous, don't really understand why, but I had the same problem and googled it (don't remember where i found it) the solution for me was as simple as removing my SD card and rebooting, then the update option magically was available again.

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Updated, Rooted, and now I get an update?

So I updated to 4.1.2 recently and decided I'd simply root my phone. Now today I have the AT&T updater telling me I have an update pending. I'm already on 4.1.2 and the only possible reason I could conceive as to why this is popping up is because during rooting something must have changed and that flagged the updater as me having an obsolete firmware. Anyone else getting this?
mrmcpowned said:
So I updated to 4.1.2 recently and decided I'd simply root my phone. Now today I have the AT&T updater telling me I have an update pending. I'm already on 4.1.2 and the only possible reason I could conceive as to why this is popping up is because during rooting something must have changed and that flagged the updater as me having an obsolete firmware. Anyone else getting this?
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What is your current firmware
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4.1.2 Baseband I317UCALK7 Build Number JZO54K.I317UCALK7
mrmcpowned said:
4.1.2 Baseband I317UCALK7 Build Number JZO54K.I317UCALK7
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The latest is actually I317UCAMA4; the ALK7 is the one right before that
Thanks, I have TWRP installed so do I have to reinstall the stock recovery and then continue the update and whatnot?
Don't waste your time with the ATT update; just flash almost any custom ROM, and you will have all the benefits plus much more...
wase4711 said:
Don't waste your time with the ATT update; just flash almost any custom ROM, and you will have all the benefits plus much more...
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I agree, but if you want to upgrade, use cf auto root to reinstall stock recovery, use full unroot in super su, then run update
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Android The Greek said:
I agree, but if you want to upgrade, use cf auto root to reinstall stock recovery, use full unroot in super su, then run update
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I've tried this, but the update still fails. Could it be my modified system files from setting up Google wallet?
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bookem11 said:
I've tried this, but the update still fails. Could it be my modified system files from setting up Google wallet?
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Could be, I always keep a stock backup jsut incase. You can always dirty flash a stock rom and see if that works
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If you are going to stick with stock, you may want to use autoruns to disable the check for updates. That way at least the notification will go away.
Android The Greek said:
I agree, but if you want to upgrade, use cf auto root to reinstall stock recovery, use full unroot in super su, then run update
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I did all of the above. Update was downloaded successfully, Phone reboot itself and started installing update. And than "updated was interrupted" message popped out. I've tried it several times with the same result.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

OTA Update 4.1.2 Failing update at 24-26%

The update process fails at 24-26%
I've downloaded 3 times
I am rooted w/Exynos and using OTA Rootkeeper
Thanks
U need to be fully stock.
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Remove SU and OTA Rootkeeper?
Last update was ok with OTA Rootkeeper installed.
I can try.
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Use odin/mobile odin to flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560 its prerooted
horr1blek1tten said:
U need to be fully stock.
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Not entirely, I did the OTA update while keeping root using SuperSU Pro and the root saving function. I had a similar failure at 25% when I first tried to update but found it was because I had missed a system app when defrosting. Make sure you've reinstalled/defrosted all the system apps you removed when you debloated.
As you're able to download the OTA update it means you've avoided tripping the flash counter and have been able to maintain the Status:Normal. I rooted originally with the Exynos abuse and have been using SuperSU Pro's root saving function since then to keep root through the OTA updates. It is possible but I will admit it has caused more difficulty then if I went the Mobile Oden or TWRP route.
Crap, I deleted some system apps.
Is there a list for me to compare?
razormy said:
Crap, I deleted some system apps.
Is there a list for me to compare?
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If you cant figure out what u deleted.just flash again your stuff wont be deleted. Next backup the apps your going to delete. before you do using titanium backup
deeznutz1977 said:
If you cant figure out what u deleted.just flash again your stuff wont be deleted. Next backup the apps your going to delete. before you do using titanium backup
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I just odined from the link provided.
All is well.
Thanks.
razormy said:
I just odined from the link provided.
All is well.
Thanks.
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Glad to here it.
I learned several phones back, don't ever accept OTAs. Let other people be the guinea pigs and let the devs figure out what the carrier is patching.

cannot connect to wifi, Prevention Information

Hello all Im afraid Im in need of dire help
I cannot connect to wifi. every time I try to turn it on a notification comes up
"prevention information" [see attachment]
here's how it happened
I rooted my phone via tutorial by chainfire and everything was working fine
I then decided to backup my phone using clockwork mod
-however rebooting to backup brought some small glitch so I decided to go back to regular root
I unrooted my phone following this tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258628
I then rooted my phone again
*at this point the wifi didnt work so I unrooted again and performed a factory reset
the wifi still doesnt work and im not sure why
I am currently not rooted
phone stats are:
samsung galaxy s4 sgh-m919 tmobile 4.2.2
baseband version m919uvuamdL
thank you
Edit: yes I have rebooted as recommended by the notification
Did you install any apps in which you didnt get from the playstore lately?
Adam0524 said:
Did you install any apps in which you didnt get from the playstore lately?
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nope just installed rom manager cwm manager and ayakashi [a game form playstore from zynga]
Tried to add this to my original post but XDAs....shortbus.....rule and dumb robabtion" period prevented it
Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274271"]btw http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274271[/URL]
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274271"]btw http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2274271[/URL]
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is there anyway you can explain that to me in lamens terms?
every thing theyve said is gibberish to me. I need to root my phone then make a backup then I can do that? its very confusing
Install a custom rom like wicked. It will fix your problem
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XxKINGxX2580 said:
Install a custom rom like wicked. It will fix your problem
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will I then be able to return to stock without running a custom rom? or atleast cr-autoroot?
I do not know for certain, but wicked is very close to stock. And it doesn't have the crappy T-Mobile bloatware
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XxKINGxX2580 said:
I do not know for certain, but wicked is very close to stock. And it doesn't have the crappy T-Mobile bloatware
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I will try that thank you, do I need to root my phone first before installing a rom or is the root included in the roms?
where do I get the roms and tutorials for it? I searched here[see attachment] but I didnt find wicked.
I just dont want to accidentally get a rom for a diff phone
Go to the android development section it's over there. It's something like wicked 5.1 the game changer
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Have you tried freezing SEAndroid and KnoxAgent via Titanium Backup?
lordcheeto03 said:
Have you tried freezing SEAndroid and KnoxAgent via Titanium Backup?
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idk what any of that is
I wanted to uninstall SEAndroid but that was probably going to be a bad choice lol
yay I have fixed it!
I followed this guide to return to stock but instead of using "Stock TAR (original)" I used "Download UVUAMDL Official TAR"
now Im going to try and root again. Hopefully it will stay fixed
Thank you everyone for your help!:laugh:
JokerFrown said:
idk what any of that is
I wanted to uninstall SEAndroid but that was probably going to be a bad choice lol
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I just Odin'd back to stock yesterday because I had lost my backup of the 100% stock ROM... After rooting, I as well was getting the Prevention Information error; I just used Titanium Backup to freeze SEAndroid... Using TiBu to freeze an app is like uninstalling it, but it's less permanent. It doesn't run, it doesn't start.. just like it's not there, but you can 'defrost' the app and it's back to doing what it does. It did get rid of the Prevention error and it all still works.
lordcheeto03 said:
I just Odin'd back to stock yesterday because I had lost my backup of the 100% stock ROM... After rooting, I as well was getting the Prevention Information error; I just used Titanium Backup to freeze SEAndroid... Using TiBu to freeze an app is like uninstalling it, but it's less permanent. It doesn't run, it doesn't start.. just like it's not there, but you can 'defrost' the app and it's back to doing what it does. It did get rid of the Prevention error and it all still works.
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is titanium backup like CWM or is it just an app?
I know what freezing is though I was going to use that in the battery life tutorial until my wifi stopped working lol
JokerFrown said:
is titanium backup like CWM or is it just an app?
I know what freezing is though I was going to use that in the battery life tutorial until my wifi stopped working lol
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It's just an app. It's for backing up apps and data.
I seriously do not know why you prefer stock. It has so much bloatware and it lags a lot. But, if you like it, OK.
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JokerFrown said:
yay I have fixed it!
I followed this guide to return to stock but instead of using "Stock TAR (original)" I used "Download UVUAMDL Official TAR"
now Im going to try and root again. Hopefully it will stay fixed
Thank you everyone for your help!:laugh:
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The warning you are getting is only from rooting. All you have to do is remove KNOXAgent.apk from the /system/app directory. You can use any eoog explorer found on the market to do this. That's all that is. The apk is pointless.
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elesbb said:
The warning you are getting is only from rooting. All you have to do is remove KNOXAgent.apk from the /system/app directory. You can use any eoog explorer found on the market to do this. That's all that is. The apk is pointless.
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Just pointing out the dialog went away for me when I froze SEAndroid... I still froze KnoxAgent as well, but SEAndroid killed the message.

(FIXED) Just took 10p update and now I can't root...

Anybody taken the same update? Universal root isn't working for me, it's saying it's a read only system. Any help??
((PROBLEM FIXED!!!)) HAVE PHONE ROOTED BEFORE, THEN USE TITANIUM BACKUP TO FREEZE AT&T APPS. Then update...enjoy still having root!
Try to flash again the older version with lg flash tool and root then.
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rooting technique doesn't work
Won't take the update if you are rooted. Already tried.
Waiting for root safe confirmation before accepting an update that includes nothing more than Roms here have had for a while?
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you should never take an update unless you're SURE it can be rooted. I bought an s4 in the store and before I left the worker updated my phone for me to, and it turns out that update is what locked down the bootloader and to this day if you have that firmware you still can't unlock the bootloader.. so before anyone accepts updates research first or you might end up with a stock phone, forever.
You can root S4 though. Big difference between unlocking boot loader and rooting lol
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I wasn't talking about root. I was talking about the boot loader
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deadenz said:
I wasn't talking about root. I was talking about the boot loader
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That's what he's saying, basically the OP's problem differs slightly from yours in that although your phone was updated there was was still a means to root your phone even after losing the ability to unlock you boot loader. Meanwhile after updating the OP can't even get root. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though...
likemiketoo said:
That's what he's saying, basically the OP's problem differs slightly from yours in that although your phone was updated there was was still a means to root your phone even after losing the ability to unlock you boot loader. Meanwhile after updating the OP can't even get root. Someone correct me if I'm wrong though...
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that was my whole point. don't take updates unless you research first and make sure there is a root method.
deadenz said:
that was my whole point. don't take updates unless you research first and make sure there is a root method.
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I can CONFIRM 100% that you CAN UPDATE to 10p once you are rooted and use TITANIUM BACKUP to FREEZE the AT&T APPS. Tried twice...worked flawlessly both times. Hope I helped someone.:good:
I just rooted and updated to the P version. Kept root. I don't even have TBU installed, either, so freezing ATT apps is not a variable necessarily.
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How can I force my phone to download this update if I'm rooted and on T-Mobile?
It doesn't matter if you freeze the apps. It matters if the apps are uninstalled.
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Neroga said:
It doesn't matter if you freeze the apps. It matters if the apps are uninstalled.
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I never uninstalled them, only tried without being frozen, then with. Only updated with freezing. Not sure about uninstalling them.
Root sticks after the update. Your recovery must be stock, not CWM or TWRP. I didn't need to freeze anything, though I never deleted/disabled anything prior to the update.
What about the OP's question: Can anyone root AFTER taking the update? I assume his phone was not rooted prior to the update.
I just tried this myself on my "clean" phone and can confirm the univ root method does not work any more after the 10p update.
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I'm having the same problem, hopefully somebody figures out a way way around this, I hate not being rooted.
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jreed3786 said:
Won't take the update if you are rooted. Already tried.
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looks like if your rooted but do not freeze, uninstall, or modify apps in any way that it will in fact update. Then after update go in and freeze the apps.
bailey37821 said:
looks like if your rooted but do not freeze, uninstall, or modify apps in any way that it will in fact update. Then after update go in and freeze the apps.
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You might be on to something here! Definitely going to try tomorrow...even though I'm updated at the moment, and rooted!
well I had the similar issue as the OP. I was rooted, running CWM recovery and had removed most of the AT&T stock apps. I saw the update available and like a fool I accepted the update and then was stuck in CWM recovery boot loop. Nothing worked to get out of the loop so I decided to reflash with stock TOT file. Then I took the 10p update and found the Universal Root file not working (I updated before rooting).
I need to have root... so next try I reflash stock TOT file, root with Universal Root, accept update to 10p and all is good. I can once again remove AT&T stock apps, disable carrier-iq, use Freegees to go back to custom recovery, etc, etc, etc... all good now! :good:

Unroot G3 to apply OTA

Hey everyone
Looks like my F400K has an update available, although I can't apply it as I've rooted my G3
Does anyone know how I can apply this update? I've tried using PC Suite however it says no update is available.
Any help would be great!
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antigravity said:
Hey everyone
Looks like my F400K has an update available, although I can't apply it as I've rooted my G3
Does anyone know how I can apply this update? I've tried using PC Suite however it says no update is available.
Any help would be great!
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I would say you would need to unroot and/or find a modified package you can flash through recovery on a rooted device. If you want to return to stock there are the required files in the Dev forum.
antigravity said:
Hey everyone
Looks like my F400K has an update available, although I can't apply it as I've rooted my G3
Does anyone know how I can apply this update? I've tried using PC Suite however it says no update is available.
Any help would be great!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771401
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Thanks guys - I saw that thread, but as far as I can tell, that will wipe my device? Was hoping to unroot my phone somehow without losing everything
Have you tried super su.... It has a setting for survival mode to use like that but don't know if it will work or not.....think you need pro for though
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Epix4G said:
Have you tried super su.... It has a setting for survival mode to use like that but don't know if it will work or not.....think you need pro for though
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Depends if have a custom recovery or original oem recovery, may conflict if the original recovery does not exist...
Jhon998 said:
Depends if have a custom recovery or original oem recovery, may conflict if the original recovery does not exist...
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There isn't a custom recovery.....hasn't been posted yet at least ...
No one has even said if bootloader is locked or not
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Epix4G said:
There isn't a custom recovery.....hasn't been posted yet at least ...
No one has even said if bootloader is locked or not
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If it has......... not for sure.
lol
I've tried without OTA survival mode, with OTA survival mode, and even went as far as to fully unroot. Still said that the device is suspected of rooting after several reboots...
Try a factory reset next, see if that is enough, otherwise the only option will be to reflash the stock rom. Please keep us updated.
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Listening in. Many of us will have the same problem.
Yes there's a new software update just released too. Hide my root doesn't work.
poczynek said:
Yes there's a new software update just released too. Hide my root doesn't work.
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What model number?
400k
If you´re using towelroot or installing busybox those will leave pretty lot of files behind in system etc.
I imagine those left behind will possibly make an update a bit harder.
Model 400S received minor OTA though I'm rooted
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Generally it's not root that stops a ota it's the missing or frozen system files etc
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Now that I think of it, that could be my issue, I've made a few modifications and froze certain apps. That explains why a full unroot wouldn't work. I'll have to do a full backup and restore later. I'm just hoping that the OTA fixes the Chromecast crashing issues.
To unroot do. Uninstall allt root stuff and unroot with supersu, unfreeze. Use LG support tool to reinstall firmware to get rid of busybox stuff. I tried this last night and all my software is still there but my system I reinstalled. Should... Be able to take ota
dondavis007 said:
To unroot do. Uninstall allt root stuff and unroot with supersu, unfreeze. Use LG support tool to reinstall firmware to get rid of busybox stuff. I tried this last night and all my software is still there but my system I reinstalled. Should... Be able to take ota
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Was this via the repair option, the one that said "remove update errors" or similar?

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