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Do we have to use touchwiz to benefit from the S pen features?

Or will they still work in nova launcher? (obviously still on a Sammy rom, not aosp)
Thanks

You obviously still can use all the features with another launcher, you just have to use stock apps (video player, email, gallery, dialer ... etc)

To make use of spen features,you only need those tw frameworks.You may use spen features on any launcher provided you have those frameworks.
And as you said,it will work on Sammy based roms only.It won't work on AOSP,AOKP roms as they lack tw frameworks.....
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As others have mentioned before, you can use any launcher.
But for the S-Pen functionality, you need to use the stock apps provided by Samsung.
You "might" lose out on some of the functionality, if you change the launcher. This is just my guess.

gsainath4u said:
You "might" lose out on some of the functionality, if you change the launcher. This is just my guess.
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I just thought of quick command, I think it only works on TW's home screens and app drawer.

Thanks, to be honest I doubt I'll use the s pen too much anyway, just want the big screen - I find my s3 too small!

So it means no SPen apps on custom roms??? I love changing my roms. Its kind of a deal breaker for me.
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shamps said:
So it means no SPen apps on custom roms??? I love changing my roms. Its kind of a deal breaker for me.
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It will work on TW-based custom roms but on AOSP/AOKP it will behave just like your finger, no pressure sensitivity and such.

CreepyDroid said:
It will work on TW-based custom roms but on AOSP/AOKP it will behave just like your finger, no pressure sensitivity and such.
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And no spen button support
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Should I be concerned about this? Do note owners miss the s pen on cm roms ot its not a big deal?
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Hello All
Should I be concerned about this? Do note owners miss the s pen on cm roms ot its not a big deal?
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So it means no SPen apps on custom roms??? I love changing my roms. Its kind of a deal breaker for me.
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No... There is an App called *G-Note* ( Just like the stock S-Memo app ) that comes with the CM10 PA Based Hybrid JB Rom that I run.. works great!
You obviously still can use all the features with another launcher, you just have to use stock apps
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The Launcher makes no difference.. And Google Play will let you know if an app you want to download is "Incompatable" I use Go Launcher Ex and swear by it.. Hopes this help answer your questions

Didn't Jelly bean add native support for stylus's?

crazy talk said:
Didn't Jelly bean add native support for stylus's?
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Ics did
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wait so pressure sensitivity only works with default apps? so it wont work with any drawing apps from the market?

Hell Guardian said:
wait so pressure sensitivity only works with default apps? so it wont work with any drawing apps from the market?
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For apps that support pressure sensitivity it will work just fine (take a look at the note 10.1 forum for some examples), but I THINK you still need to be on a TW based rom. I'm not sure though, too bad I no longer have my Note 1 to check it.

i ordinarily flash straight to pure aosp from whatever manufacturer paint job the phone comes with (sense, touchwiz, blur), but after watching the hands on video i may actually stay stock with the note 2, my only reason for switching from stock on my gs3 was ICS/big red not pushing out JB, but the s-pen functions look so good.

Hell Guardian said:
wait so pressure sensitivity only works with default apps? so it wont work with any drawing apps from the market?
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I've not found any apps on the market that support pressure with my Flyer.

Tablet Like Rom For Note 2 ? ([email protected] & Members)

I have searched many times in xda but i didnt find any tablet (like) rom for galaxy note 2..in which setting, contact, music etc didplayed like tablet view.
Whereas in note 1 section i found one rom called mimi tab which had some capabilities of tablet but that one is only for note 1..but for note 2 i didnt find such rom...
Because note 2 has bigger display and it can be used for tablet like interface ..but here no one seems so intrested to make that type rom
If any one knows that type rom for note 2 gsm, please inform me
[email protected]: please if someone like my idea or they kno how to make it.. please try to make tablet like interface rom:thumbup:

check any paranoid android rom

sotodefonk said:
check any paranoid android rom
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Thanks but it wold be better if it is from samsung..like note 10.1 port or ported from other samsung Tabs
Cuz PA & other Aokp/sp roms may not have some exclisive features like multi windows, s pen overview etc..
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You could always use the xposed framework and set apps to a different resolution and dpi. I changed gmail to a lower dpi and it's now in tablet mode.
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Any Other Suggestion??
Thanks, but any other suggestion???
Any other ROM or Mod Which work with samsung base??? not CM or AOSP..in which Native video call, NAtive touchwiz and other things are missing. I am searching a rom in which everything stock with tablet mod. In Note 1 section there are many that kind of rom but being bigger screen and advance device note II has no tablet like roms..if anyone knows that kind of rom or mod please Help me!:highfive:

Your options are either Paranoid Android or a stock rom with xposed framework with Xposedappsettings so you can change dpi and switch to tablet mode for the apps you want.

This kind of rom>>
dannejanne said:
Your options are either Paranoid Android or a stock rom with xposed framework with Xposedappsettings so you can change dpi and switch to tablet mode for the apps you want.
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Thanks.
But can i get this kind of rom for SGNII
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062791
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968561
As you can see these arer real tablet like roms with stock base and stuff
Please Any Dev developing this kind of ROMs???

Jellybam.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Jellybam.
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Thanks, but Jelly Bam is AOSP based 4.2.1 rom...which is not samsung Rom
Any Other Rom or Mod???

Hmmm I see you want tw + tablet mode.
For that I think you can only use build.prop tweaks.
I think jellybam was 4.1.2 though aosp.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Hmmm I see you want tw + tablet mode.
For that I think you can only use build.prop tweaks.
I think jellybam was 4.1.2 though aosp.
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Thanks sir! धन्यवाद:thumbup:
You are right! That kind of rom i was searching for...please inform me whenever you find that kind of rom..ok thanks
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I found one rom wich is somehow like the one i was searching for = New project: six dev team in Xda which can be transformed into Tablet or Phablet UI mode.
If anyone knows others please post here. Thanks
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ipsuvedi said:
I found one rom wich is somehow like the one i was searching for = New project: six dev team in Xda which can be transformed into Tablet or Phablet UI mode.
If anyone knows others please post here. Thanks
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You can use this Tablet UI feature with Custom Launchers like Apex or Go Launcher. I am using Apex with Tablet UI. This works on any ROM.
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Found!!!!
Currently there are Two Roms in xda Wilch support Full Tablet UI for Note 2
Essa NSS Rom
And
Minitab Rom from Wee
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[REQ] Samsung based CM10/CM10.1 ROM

Hi guys,
I saw the MIUI team have ported there ROM and kept all the Touchwiz features such as the SPEN while still adding all the MIUI customisation options by using a Touchwiz Base. I was wondering if this would be possible with CM10? Or AOKP? Well, something AOSP based. I know there are look a likes but to be honest none really are all that great in my opinion. CM10/.1 has SOOOO many awesome features. The themes chooser sor instants.
I think this would be insane. Im not a developer, but i'd be willing to do everything I can to make this possible! - If it is possible ...
So anyone up for it?
Cheers

that MIUI was based on TW ... no S features will be ever available on AOSP

I don't think it's as straightforward as the Samsung framework enables those features like split-window and Samsung-specific apps. Having said that, there are third-party options to enable some of the functionality. Note that even in default CM10.1, S-Pen itself works fine, air hover, button, and so on.

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zekurosu said:
that MIUI was based on TW ... no S features will be ever available on AOSP
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MIUI was originally based on Cyanogen mod wasn't it?

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I don't think it's as straightforward as the Samsung framework enables those features like split-window and Samsung-specific apps. Having said that, there are third-party options to enable some of the functionality. Note that even in default CM10.1, S-Pen itself works fine, air hover, button, and so on.
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On the latest nighty it doesn't :/

For note 2 it was never.
In the thread its clearly written based on tw.
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UtkarshGupta said:
For note 2 it was never.
In the thread its clearly written based on tw.
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Fair enough, but it still has MIUI features? So why cant the same be done for CM10?

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Fair enough, but it still has MIUI features? So why cant the same be done for CM10?
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Because the whole point of CM is being AOSP+ more features.
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Cm10.1 is 4.2.1 based
Miui is 4.1.2 that too tw based.
First of all s pen functions require libraries which aren't cross compatible.
So the libraries can't be used with 4.2.1
There is no cm10 for note 2.
Only Cm10.1
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UtkarshGupta said:
Cm10.1 is 4.2.1 based
Miui is 4.1.2 that too tw based.
First of all s pen functions require libraries which aren't cross compatible.
So the libraries can't be used with 4.2.1
There is no cm10 for note 2.
Only Cm10.1
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There is CM10 for Note 2. Although discontinued. Probably should get your facts straight eh?
Right, so why isn't it possible to make a Cm10, touchwiz 4.1.2 based rom if its been done with MIUI?

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Because the whole point of CM is being AOSP+ more features.
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And?

Miui is touchwiz based.
If you remove touchwiz framework you get cm. Not to mention you will add Google framework.
But without touchwiz framework snote libs won't work.
So no s note.
Cm 10 is nothing but Google framework based rom to be accurate. It doesn't means cm team didn't so much. I am saying in context to this thread.
Either Google framework or Samsung framework.
That is either no s note or s note.
Miui is samsung based.
Other than thar Samsung based rom might be themed enough to look like cm10 but it isn't aosp.
It would require super expert level modding or samsung or google level devs to do that.
Samsung devs know best how they work.
So they are probably the one who can do that.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Miui is touchwiz based.
If you remove touchwiz framework you get cm. Not to mention you will add Google framework.
But without touchwiz framework snote libs won't work.
So no s note.
Cm 10 is nothing but Google framework based rom to be accurate. It doesn't means cm team didn't so much. I am saying in context to this thread.
Either Google framework or Samsung framework.
That is either no s note or s note.
Miui is samsung based.
Other than thar Samsung based rom might be themed enough to look like cm10 but it isn't aosp.
It would require super expert level modding or samsung or google level devs to do that.
Samsung devs know best how they work.
So they are probably the one who can do that.
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BUT MIUI did it ... MIUI wasn't originally touchwiz based. So I cant dsee why someone couldn't do the same thing with CM.

Miui was made with touchwiz launcher for note 2.
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UtkarshGupta said:
Miui was made with touchwiz launcher for note 2.
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You're just really not helping are you?

I am just telling you that is not possible...
You can check N7100 forums as well...
No such roms...
2 years I guess and not a single rom of this type....
I think that explains it.
I am not sure but maybe 4.1.2 based aosp with s note might be possible.
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[Q] Vanilla ROM?

[Q] Vanilla ROM
Hey guys,
Reacntly I started seeing some ROMs here, but they are all TouchWiz ones /:
Now I know that there isn't a lot of developers for this device, but i'm still wondering if anyone (maybe Cyanogenmod team) working on a Vanilla ROM.
Does anyone have any idea?

I hope so don't need all the touchwiz rubish just a nice slim rom hopefully being able to free up some more storage to save apps. Come on guys there must be someone smart enough to port vanilla

Donate to m3d0g in developing Roms thread. This way he can purchase the device and build Roms for it.
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Clean rom has stock no Knox and then a clean rom 1.2 that some myself included are running. Scotts been making great rom on the note2 for awhile
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a non-Touchwiz ROM make the S Pen absolutely useless?

fezzle said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a non-Touchwiz ROM make the S Pen absolutely useless?
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I remember when I installed CM on my note ii and the s-pen worked!
I too would like a stock android experience, I hate touchwiz but love the s-pen.
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johnnie93 said:
I remember when I installed CM on my note ii and the s-pen worked!
I too would like a stock android experience, I hate touchwiz but love the s-pen.
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How is that possible i thought the spen needs the touchwiz framework to work. I would love an aosp based rom with spen features
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benni2903 said:
How is that possible i thought the spen needs the touchwiz framework to work. I would love an aosp based rom with spen features
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Just to clarify, the s-pen works but the air view and button don't work.
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Ok cool i dont even use air view P
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benni2903 said:
How is that possible i thought the spen needs the touchwiz framework to work. I would love an aosp based rom with spen features
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it's only the proprietary s-pen stuff you won't have access to. pen support is supposed to be built in to (i believe) ics and above.

pen works
there is a program that is in beta in the Play Store that is supposed to work real well. Also CM S pen may do what you are asking.

[Q] Will the S-Pen still work with CM 11 installed?

Just curious as to whether the s-pen will still work with CM11 installed. I don't mind losing the features, I just want to know if it'll still work. I love the note 2, but hate the bloatware and touchwiz in general. Thanks!

Yes.

There is an app in the play store for the spen with cm11
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WoodenDiamond71 said:
Just curious as to whether the s-pen will still work with CM11 installed. I don't mind losing the features, I just want to know if it'll still work. I love the note 2, but hate the bloatware and touchwiz in general. Thanks!
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You will need three applications - CM S Pen Add-on(ROOT), Note Buddy (S Pen Helper), and whatever application you want to use for note-taking. I was using Papyrus when I had CM11 installed.

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You will need three applications - CM S Pen Add-on(ROOT), Note Buddy (S Pen Helper), and whatever application you want to use for note-taking. I was using Papyrus when I had CM11 installed.
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Thanks! Ill look into these!:good: