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So I currently have the Samsung Fascinate on verizon, and it finally running great with latest superclean, gingerbread.
But I am able to upgrade, I went to the store and at first I was not very impressed. Then went back just today, and realized someone made the fonts extra Large, and once I changed it back to normal, wow what a difference. I just thought something wrong with my eyes on that phone.
I was trying to compare the nexus to the razr and htz rezound. After trying all 3 phones for an hour I am 100% sure I don't want the rezound or razr even if they do get ICS. The main reason is I think the screen looked the best on nexus, and bigger. I just liked having more real estate, of course other big reason is it is ASOP Google which is main reason for looking at nexus.
But I was curious do your phones get hot? I noticed after playing with this nexus in the store it got very warm / to hot when I tried to make a call to see sound quality I could barely keep it on my face.
I downloaded the temperature monitor from market and it showed it at 110.
While razr and rezound was mostly cool compared to nexus. I think temp showed around 98-105
Some other concerns is I saw a thread here where getting scratched easily, I refuse to put a screen protector on, I just hate it, I have never had one on my fascinate and not one scratch. So while at the store I tried as hard to scratch with my nails, and bang it, basically doing what I can to see if anything happened, and I did not see one scratch, so I guess that is good, though not sure what happens when I put it in my front pants pocket.
I also made a call from the store and sounded really good, and person on other end said I sounded great, of course in the store I am sure the reception is great. I was curious how is the speakerphone? I use that a lot, since I am always losing my bluetooth.
I tried to it use while in the store but way too noisy to get a good feeling.
A lot of the questions you're having can be answered by watching video reviews on YouTube or reading reviews of the phone.
HTC Rezound vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaVZPH7Sgg
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfvUGk63o8Q
RAZR vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZrSYPGn-M
P2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwUQ_LhTBjc&feature=player_embedded
Engadget Review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/verizon-galaxy-nexus-review/
We already knew more-or-less what we were getting with the Verizon rendition of the Galaxy Nexus, and ultimately it delivers. Yes, battery life predictably takes a hit compared to the HSPA+ when you enable LTE, and it's safe to say this version of the phone has a bit more to love than the earlier release, but neither of those are deal-breakers. This, like the other version, is a great phone. At $300 with a two-year contract ($650 without) it is not cheap, but if you must have the best, it's well worth it.
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HSPA+: http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/24/galaxy-nexus-hspa-review/
Let's not beat around the bush. The Galaxy Nexus is definitely the best Android phone available today -- it's possibly even the best phone available today, period. Sure, it's not perfect -- we're disappointed that the camera doesn't deliver the same wow factor as the rest of the handset. It's an alright shooter, but it's just no match for the state-of-the-art. There's also room for improvement in terms of build and materials quality. Still, there's no denying the satisfying look and feel, the stunning display, the impressive performance, the excellent battery life -- the whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.
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.. and yes the phone does get hot when you play games, although it has stopped getting that hot when I started using franco kernel because the phone is being undervolted. GPU is also increased to 386 MHz (or something like that.. a boost from clock GPU). The speaker is kind of low but getting Volume+ (or flashing DSP Manager) will fix that straight up. Set volume+ to +8 and all will be good.
This is a stock Google experience and is a far better experience than what the RAZR and Rezound can offer. ICS 4.0.3/4.0.2 is simply amazing.
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.
tannor said:
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.
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They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.
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They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.
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Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?
tannor said:
Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?
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Well Gingerbread (2.3.X) came out a long time ago. And phones said "upgradable to 2.3.X" and didn't get it until 6-7 months later. I mean you can use a custom ROM and all that but development is limited when kernels aren't open-sourced that are used for that specific Android version and blah blah blah (too technical to type out).
I've used a Samsung Vibrant, and it heavily relied on leaked Samsung builds by samfirmwares. It was getting really old.
4.0.3 is officially released on the Nexus S but the update was halted due to bugs. But I've been running 4.0.3 with custom ROMs and battery life has been amazing. I'm currently using a leaked bootloader update (PRIMEKL01) and battery life is even better with this bootloader.
4.0.3 is officially released in AOSP, so anyone can compile AOSP 4.0.3. But the latest OTA is 4.0.2 as 4.0.3 is halted (as mentioned previously). So it's not necessarily leaked in any way.
I'd personally recommend you to use custom ROMs + franco kernel. You can check the GSM/CDMA forums and view users' feedback. Idle is amazing with that kernel. If you wish to not root right away, at least unlock the bootloader first so if you change your mind. You can root it and use Titanium Backup (or any other app that does the same) and backup your stuff. Otherwise you'll lose your data when you do decide to root.
Keep in mind, I believe you should have a 14 (or 30 day) return if you are unsatisfied with the phone.
Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?
tannor said:
Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?
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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458
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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458
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Oh that is awesome did not know can get it directly from google.
nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02
aohus said:
nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02
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I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.
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I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.
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there is no 3G/4G toggle on stock ICS. You can, however, download a widget off the market place and use that as a toggle. you'd have to go to settings -> more -> mobile networks -> network mode to change it otherwise.
hopefully google/verizon will update their baseband firmware and bring better battery life. i think thats whats causing a lot of the battery performance issues on LTE.
thing is, even with good 4G signal, if you watch a youtube video in HD, you'll see the batt % dwindle very quickly. watching a 5 minute hd clip would reduce the battery life by as much as 7-10% give or take.
the saving grace with this phone is the massive support from both google and the community. its the only reason why i'm holding onto this phone over any other 4G phone at the moment.
fyi the users that chime in this subforum either have the gsm or cdma version. depending on who you talk to, the cdma user will most likely ***** more about batt life than the GSM user.
If you are going to stay on Verizon then I personally don't see any other choice Although I would still take a GS2 over the GN in hardware but damn ICS is just such a nice OS.... even when its slow.
tannor said:
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
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TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.
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TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.
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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.
Battery is affected on all 4G LTE phones for the most part. So it's not just the Galaxy Nexus. With custom ROMs, and kernels they can help to bring out the most of your battery life. But definitely battery will be your biggest issue, if you disable 4G LTE... that may be a way around it and only activate it when you really need it.
Also, the Rezound doesn't have NFC capabilities. NFC will be the future, so this is something to think about if you want to make payments with your phone.
Ultimately the decision is yours, http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Verizon-Galaxy-Nexus-vs-HTC-Rezound_id2938
Google a bunch of "rezound vs galaxy nexus" posts and read them. In the end, you choose which you'd think would fit you.
Latest updates and stock Google experience: Galaxy Nexus for sure.
I'm just gonna root and use a 4G toggle and only use 4G when I'm really trying to do some fast tasks, so otherwise, wifi and 3G for basic stuff like FB should get me some decent battery life.
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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.
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I've had both the Rezound and the GNex and didn't think the battery life was any better on the Rezound.
I've gotten better battery life personally with my nexus compared to my brothers Rezound. Rezound was not too good for him.
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I got the Rezound when it first came out. Didn't really have any signal issues like I'm reading most 4G phones have. With that said I did have horrible battery life and usually tried keeping it in CMDA/3G mode unless I was streaming videos.
Gaming or browsing while 4G was on had my Rezound pushing temps of low 140*F...
I also had the famous buzzing issue and the "beats" aren't what they're cracked up to be. The other thing was I got tired of the Rezound looking just like my Incredible.
But the screen was amazing.
It too took awful pic's however. They looked great on screen, terrible when the file was transferred to a computer...
But I will say you don't read about any of the signal issues that you read about with the GNex.
I noticed a significant difference in signal strength and resilience on TouchWiz roms as compared to AOSP roms. I've tried this on a number of radios (LJ7, LG8, LI3, LIH) and gotten the same results. I assume it's just perceived as I can't think of a reason why the rom would influence signal strength. Nonetheless, when I'm on TouchWiz I can walk all around my house and get ~-70 to -80dBm. On AOSP roms, if I leave it in a particular corner of my house I can get ~ -70dBm, but as soon as I leave that corner it shoots to -90+dBm (and subsequently boots me from LTE). Is there a reason that this could happen? Does it have something to do with the data handoff in TouchWiz vs. AOSP? Also, one thing to note is that on CM10 and 10.1, my Mobile Network Type is LTE:13 and on TW roms it's LTE:14. From what I understand, there's no real difference in LTE13/14 right? Has anyone else experienced this?
Interesting you mention this. I just posted a thread on a similar problem. See if this is your issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118098
ctasich said:
I noticed a significant difference in signal strength and resilience on TouchWiz roms as compared to AOSP roms. I've tried this on a number of radios (LI7, LG8, LI3, LIH) and gotten the same results. I assume it's just perceived as I can't think of a reason why the rom would influence signal strength. Nonetheless, when I'm on TouchWiz I can walk all around my house and get ~-70 to -80dBm. On AOSP roms, if I leave it in a particular corner of my house I can get ~ -70dBm, but as soon as I leave that corner it shoots to -90+dBm (and subsequently boots me from LTE). Is there a reason that this could happen? Does it have something to do with the data handoff in TouchWiz vs. AOSP? Also, one thing to note is that on CM10 and 10.1, my Mobile Network Type is LTE:13 and on TW roms it's LTE:14. From what I understand, there's no real difference in LTE13/14 right? Has anyone else experienced this?
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I've also noticed this. On tw I can only get 3g when I'm at work in certain areas but when I'm on aosp I usually get lte although its only 2 to 4mbps its way better than the 1mbps I would normally receive on 3g
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Interesting you mention this. I just posted a thread on a similar problem. See if this is your issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118098
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Yes, this seems to be the exact thing I experience when on an AOSP rom. Anyone know what could cause TW roms to have a more resilient signal?
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Samsung lies. Its in the cod to add another -20db
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Samsung lies. Its in the cod to add another -20db
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This is actually what I was wondering. I wasn't sure if the dBm you see under About Phone > Status was raw data or processed data. Is there any evidence to suggest Samsung perhaps averages out dBm over time, so that it doesn't fluctuate as wildly as it would in a AOSP rom?
I'm not sure, possibly a root tool would be able to accomplish this. I have a widget that says my signal. However I'm on aosp. Not sure. I can get a link one sec
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cls.networkwidget
I just got an S3. Yikes.
Even with a solid Wifi signal streaming is very choppy. On voice calls, this is the first phone I've ever had that drops calls mid conversation from home. And I've had a lot of phones on my three lines over 13 years here. Finally, LTE reception in L.A. is not great which is a problem because the phone takes too long to switch off LTE to 3G so I find that I often have no data connection at all even though solid 3G signal is available.
I tried all kinds of tweaks to make the WiFi work better (static IP, different bandwidths, etc) and nothing worked.
Sprint kept telling me to exchange my handset so I'm on my third one and had the same problem with all three.
I'm running out of time on my 14 days so hoping for some ROM guidance so I don't have to kick the tires with a bunch of ROMs trying to find the best performance. I don't want to feel like a beta tester so please only recommend stable ROMs. Don't really care about anything other features, in fact I kind of like to keep it simple. I just want stability and solid wireless performance.
Thanks in advance.
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748818
and believe me its a hit OR miss , reception issues are more than common in Sprint GS3
i have had enough and i will be switching to either a EVO LTE or Note 2.
all the best.
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I just got an S3. Yikes.
Even with a solid Wifi signal streaming is very choppy. On voice calls, this is the first phone I've ever had that drops calls mid conversation from home. And I've had a lot of phones on my three lines over 13 years here. Finally, LTE reception in L.A. is not great which is a problem because the phone takes too long to switch off LTE to 3G so I find that I often have no data connection at all even though solid 3G signal is available.
I tried all kinds of tweaks to make the WiFi work better (static IP, different bandwidths, etc) and nothing worked.
Sprint kept telling me to exchange my handset so I'm on my third one and had the same problem with all three.
I'm running out of time on my 14 days so hoping for some ROM guidance so I don't have to kick the tires with a bunch of ROMs trying to find the best performance. I don't want to feel like a beta tester so please only recommend stable ROMs. Don't really care about anything other features, in fact I kind of like to keep it simple. I just want stability and solid wireless performance.
Thanks in advance.
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I'll ask the obvious question: Did you update your phone with all the OTAs since it came out of the box?
If not, do this, then compare.
There are pockets in LA that have spotty reception, and you may live/work in an area. For me, I work in Downtown and get solid reception with no dropped calls, even in a building which is a nightmare for all network carriers.. I enjoy the AOSP built ROMS, but they seem to create signal problems with phones. So I suggest staying away from those.
I do recommend MIJJz 4.1.2 ROM which is a Sprint leak of the latest build. My phone seems to get improved reception quality and data signal strength. Up until I switched to MIJJz ROM it would take up to 30 seconds in my work building to get updates on Tweetcaster. Now, I get updates in mere seconds. For example, I've been able to keep up on all the football recruits who have signed with UCLA today, including Kylie FItts signing. Good luck to you.
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try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748818
and believe me its a hit OR miss , reception issues are more than common in Sprint GS3
i have had enough and i will be switching to either a EVO LTE or Note 2.
all the best.
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The evo lte will be a waste of time cuz its identical hardware to the s3 as far as radios and soc. I do not have the issues that you or op speak of. Streaming videos is hit or miss cuz of the server not the phone or wifi. Maybe it could be router and wifi only in the instance if the video you are streaming is not in a web browser and the router and wifi access point dont like the ports the stream is trying to use and keeps re negiotiating.
I came from the evo lte, I dropped more calls on that than on my gs3.
Download and install the MA4 modem. You will get the best reception out of TW ROMs. I'm on MOAR and it is great. I also have gotten great reception on The Peoples ROM and Darth Stalker. Any of the TW ROMS should be good. I received very poor reception on AOSP ROMs though. Also make sure your PRL and Profile are updated. Most likely it is Sprint and not the phone though. A ROM cant make something out of nothing. I know my area is receiving upgrades and I went from 1 bar always at my house to 3-4 just in the last couple of weeks.
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I just got an S3. Yikes.
Even with a solid Wifi signal streaming is very choppy. On voice calls, this is the first phone I've ever had that drops calls mid conversation from home. And I've had a lot of phones on my three lines over 13 years here. Finally, LTE reception in L.A. is not great which is a problem because the phone takes too long to switch off LTE to 3G so I find that I often have no data connection at all even though solid 3G signal is available.
I tried all kinds of tweaks to make the WiFi work better (static IP, different bandwidths, etc) and nothing worked.
Sprint kept telling me to exchange my handset so I'm on my third one and had the same problem with all three.
I'm running out of time on my 14 days so hoping for some ROM guidance so I don't have to kick the tires with a bunch of ROMs trying to find the best performance. I don't want to feel like a beta tester so please only recommend stable ROMs. Don't really care about anything other features, in fact I kind of like to keep it simple. I just want stability and solid wireless performance.
Thanks in advance.
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I've never had any issues with reception only on aosp ROMs but I would suggest getting darthstalker ROM and flashing the MA4 kernel it offers the best signal on any ROM I've had and believe me I've flash almost all and above that you get the best battery life and has some pretty good signal and data speed tweaks
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I second the MA4 suggestion, you can try the stock or stock+root variant in the development section, I'm getting improved reception and speeds since moving to it.
Also, do some searching for the thread which tells you how to bypass the sprint proxies , that improved my music streaming performance over 3g as well.
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lord dredd said:
try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1748818
and believe me its a hit OR miss , reception issues are more than common in Sprint GS3
i have had enough and i will be switching to either a EVO LTE or Note 2.
all the best.
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Best of luck. I had the evo lte and reception issues through three strait phones over 3 months ended up landing me in a s3
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actually on the contrary, my experience has been fantastic with Evo Lte
it never lost the signals and data (3G ) was practically double.
occasional low memory and the fascination of BLACK to be black brought me to s3 .
a couple of my friends also say that their LTEs are way better as far as reception and data speed are concerned.
TBH i am still trying to find a way to not let my s3 lose reception here and there.
Though its pretty new but i guess i might try darthstalker's with ma4 kernel
thanks
Got my S4 a couple days ago and flashed AOKP within an hour. I thought the TW bundled with the phone was pretty damn smooth, but AOKP is just insane. It's like something out of a commercial where there's zero lag, but it's not a commercial, it's the actual phone in your hands. When I hit voice search, it pops up INSTANTLY. I've had a couple soft reboots when hitting recent apps from a frozen app, but I'm sure those will be ironed out. I'm not sure the camera pictures I've taken have looked as nice, though. It's hard to tell.
For those of you who made the move from TW to an AOSP-based ROM, what are your thoughts? Has anyone moved back to TW?
I've never used anything but aosp on any phone. Be it cyanogen or aokp or pure aosp.
With my previous HTC devices it was a no brainer to dump Sense ROMs and replace them with anything else. Even my Samsung tablet that came with TW didn't last long but that was because I wanted Jelly Bean on it before the official upgrade came out so TW was gone within 2 days on my tablet. So I've been using aosp for a year and a half without interruption.
When I first turned on my S4 I was shocked at how cluttered everything was. Having been used to aosp I didn't understand how anyone could use this phone as it comes out of the box. There was a new alert every 8 seconds. The notification window was constantly filled with stuff I couldn't have cared less about. Status bar was filled with icons that had no meaning to me. The only feature I thought was really cool was the T Mobile account monitor in the notification window. Everything else was just clutter. Granted, much of that was carrier bloat.
It took me 20 minutes to test all the hardware and make sure the device was not in. Need of an exchange before I rooted it and ever that was kind of painful with the TW interface. I flashed Cyanogen and am not looking back.
Oh, and despite all that about TouchWiz that I didn't like...its about a billion times better than HTC Sense.
I will say that on my unbranded Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 tablet that is WiFi only and there for completely unbranded with no bloat, the pure TouchWiz interface it came with was very nice. It was much less cluttered and more usable. Just not as configurable as aosp.
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I guess its universal AOSP are always smoother to bloated TouchWiz. I personally prefer TW (yes call me crazy ) Either you love TW or you hate it there's no other option TW with all its goodies is lot cooler than what it used to be..
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I've also noticed AOSP feels much faster... virtually no lag to be found. One thing that I have noticed though, and it may be something I'm not doing right with my settings, but TW seems to get better battery life than AOSP. I like TW for certain features such as the camera quality and one or two of the gimmicky features; but halo, unbridled speed, and customization possibilities with AOSP makes it a hard decision of which to stay with.
Overall i find most of the touchwiz features just unnecessary bloatware that you really dont need, thats more for showing off that your phone can do it over actually being practical to keep on all the time. I really like the general smoothness of AOKP much better than touchwiz, but in some areas such as the camera, AOKP really lacks in that department compared to the stock camera app, and i find 3D applications don't perform quite as well as they do on Touchwiz either, and i think most of these issues are probably more driver related than anything.
I used aokp on my s2 and loved it because it doesnt have any samsung goodness like s3 and s4 but on this devices I use TW to utilize full function.
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For those of you who uses AOSP/AOKP/w.e else ....what do you use as alternative camera/gallery? What i love about Samsung is their gallery and camera. I have found mods that transfer AOSP camera / gallery to TW but never vice versa.
I tried Aosp roms on my s3 and s4. I always end up back on tw cuz aosp roms are never 100% stable. The last time I actually stayed on aosp was with my Motorola Triumph and that's because the triumph was stuck on froyo and Cm7 was pretty stable.
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Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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Probably TW only
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adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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It is in the Play store so I would think so. Try it out and let Us know
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It is in the Play store so I would think so. Try it out and let Us know
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I'm pretty curious about this myself. From what I've heard AOKP/AOSP doesn't have the software to utilize the IR blaster, but I could always be wrong. I use TW , but will almost always run Nova launcher for customization.
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Skipjacks said:
Probably TW only
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that's what I thought. thanks.
Oh well, just another reason why I said once before on how I'm happy with my phone's OS as/is.
adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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According to Cyanogen, the source code for that isn't proprietary. He wants to see what other devs come up with.
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According to Cyanogen, the source code for that isn't proprietary. He wants to see what other devs come up with.
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The source code for the software might not be, but I think it is for the IR hardware. I know on the Samsung tablets that have an IR blaster they don't work in CM because the hardware drivers are proprietary.
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Ive been running CM10.1 and just switched to SlimBean. I never once missed the new features of TW. The abilities of AOSP far outweigh them in my opinion.
Tw all the way..
I have no issues or lag... I was a big fan of liquid smooth for a bit but I went back to stock
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for the people that switched
if u change to custom roms do u get any more space out of the sd card?? also does cyanogyn get better battery than stock cus i have ****ty battery life unrooted atm with stock
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if u change to custom roms do u get any more space out of the sd card?? also does cyanogyn get better battery than stock cus i have ****ty battery life unrooted atm with stock
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No to the extra sd space.
Possibly yes to the battery life. It greatly depends on how you set it up and what features you do and don't activate. Also the cm builds are nightly builds, which means any given one of them could have randomly crappy battery life due to a glitch or something. These have been great builds lately but that can always happen with nightlies. That aside though...yes you should get better battery life
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thanks, i will get a custom rom soon and try it out. this whole thing is just boggling my mind haha. at one point it was draining at around a percent a minute and i just came back from the gym, was listening to music the whole time on my headphones and using voice to control it and in those 45 mins i didnt lose a single percent of battery smh
I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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Actually, my data is absolute sh!te and it's a pain to load nearly anything. I get data transfer speeds in the very low kbps.
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Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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I'm going to agree Ivpre. I would not get worked up over it. Unless of course it is necessary for you to have more Bars showing then him :silly: . You do most likely get the same Data Speeds.
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Actually, my data is absolute sh!te and it's a pain to load nearly anything. I get data transfer speeds in the very low kbps.
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I would suggest Updating PRL / Profile. Maybe even trying a different Modem. Not everyone gets great reception on MD4. You may have to experiment to see which works better for you.
If you want to properly know if your device is getting less of a signal you need to flash a TW rom, preferably one which is close to stock update prl and profile. Then check your signal and data speeds compared to your friends. AOSP roms remember are built from leaks, and ported from other devices. There is no true aosp source for the Sprint S3. So there's lots of patches and coding which goes into getting the cdma radios working.
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I'm going to agree Ivpre. I would not get worked up over it. Unless of course it is necessary for you to have more Bars showing then him :silly: . You do most likely get the same Data Speeds.
I would suggest Updating PRL / Profile. Maybe even trying a different Modem. Not everyone gets great reception on MD4. You may have to experiment to see which works better for you.
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We've actually done a Speedtest together and his had a higher data rate than mine. I've had different modem with the earlier builds of Liquid Smooth as well, but still low reception. I've also updated my PRL/Profile in the past in hopes that it'll help but sadly no.
I'll look into having a TouchWiz ROM versus this one. I just love how LiquidSmooth is, so hoping I can find a TW ROM that's just as fun.
EDIT: I don't even know how to find a TouchWiz ROM. I figured it would say "TW" along the subject line, the same way AOSP does, but alas I cannot find that. I have heard of Goodness, is that a TW ROM?
Volknochi said:
I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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Some devices just get better reception than others. Better internal antennae.
My mom's old photon always got better reception than my 3d & s3
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I'll look into having a TouchWiz ROM versus this one. I just love how LiquidSmooth is, so hoping I can find a TW ROM that's just as fun.
EDIT: I don't even know how to find a TouchWiz ROM. I figured it would say "TW" along the subject line, the same way AOSP does, but alas I cannot find that. I have heard of Goodness, is that a TW ROM?
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Most likely cause all the roms which do not say AOSP or CM or AOKP or something like that are TW roms. I would recommend MOAR or TPR The People's Rom.
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OP,
Unless you're being very careful with your comparisons and using quantitative, and not qualitative, data like db, seeing more "signal bars" means nothing.
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You must also keep in mind, that even after you switch to a TW Rom. There is no guarantee that you will see better reception. IE more bars. There are quite a few variables involved. What you should concentrate on is making your device the best it can be for you. As CNexus stated. When comparing you have to compare Apples to Apples, and Oranges to Oranges.
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