I noticed a significant difference in signal strength and resilience on TouchWiz roms as compared to AOSP roms. I've tried this on a number of radios (LJ7, LG8, LI3, LIH) and gotten the same results. I assume it's just perceived as I can't think of a reason why the rom would influence signal strength. Nonetheless, when I'm on TouchWiz I can walk all around my house and get ~-70 to -80dBm. On AOSP roms, if I leave it in a particular corner of my house I can get ~ -70dBm, but as soon as I leave that corner it shoots to -90+dBm (and subsequently boots me from LTE). Is there a reason that this could happen? Does it have something to do with the data handoff in TouchWiz vs. AOSP? Also, one thing to note is that on CM10 and 10.1, my Mobile Network Type is LTE:13 and on TW roms it's LTE:14. From what I understand, there's no real difference in LTE13/14 right? Has anyone else experienced this?
Interesting you mention this. I just posted a thread on a similar problem. See if this is your issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118098
ctasich said:
I noticed a significant difference in signal strength and resilience on TouchWiz roms as compared to AOSP roms. I've tried this on a number of radios (LI7, LG8, LI3, LIH) and gotten the same results. I assume it's just perceived as I can't think of a reason why the rom would influence signal strength. Nonetheless, when I'm on TouchWiz I can walk all around my house and get ~-70 to -80dBm. On AOSP roms, if I leave it in a particular corner of my house I can get ~ -70dBm, but as soon as I leave that corner it shoots to -90+dBm (and subsequently boots me from LTE). Is there a reason that this could happen? Does it have something to do with the data handoff in TouchWiz vs. AOSP? Also, one thing to note is that on CM10 and 10.1, my Mobile Network Type is LTE:13 and on TW roms it's LTE:14. From what I understand, there's no real difference in LTE13/14 right? Has anyone else experienced this?
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I've also noticed this. On tw I can only get 3g when I'm at work in certain areas but when I'm on aosp I usually get lte although its only 2 to 4mbps its way better than the 1mbps I would normally receive on 3g
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Interesting you mention this. I just posted a thread on a similar problem. See if this is your issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118098
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Yes, this seems to be the exact thing I experience when on an AOSP rom. Anyone know what could cause TW roms to have a more resilient signal?
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Samsung lies. Its in the cod to add another -20db
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das_webos_transformer said:
Samsung lies. Its in the cod to add another -20db
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This is actually what I was wondering. I wasn't sure if the dBm you see under About Phone > Status was raw data or processed data. Is there any evidence to suggest Samsung perhaps averages out dBm over time, so that it doesn't fluctuate as wildly as it would in a AOSP rom?
I'm not sure, possibly a root tool would be able to accomplish this. I have a widget that says my signal. However I'm on aosp. Not sure. I can get a link one sec
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I have TERRIBLE Wifi signal strength on any AOSP ROMs (yes, I tested and radios, etc. are up to date). Anyone have this same issue and have a fix?? Sense ROMs are fine for me. I really want to use a few of these, but can't get over the terrible Wifi service.
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I have TERRIBLE Wifi signal strength on any AOSP ROMs (yes, I tested and radios, etc. are up to date). Anyone have this same issue and have a fix?? Sense ROMs are fine for me. I really want to use a few of these, but can't get over the terrible Wifi service.
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I've been saying this for ages, hands down the aosp wifi sig can't compare to a sense rom. I believe the devs all know this and been aware. Question is, how come no one has done anything about it :-/. One of the main reasons I'm back to sense.
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Don't hate the devs they are the reason there is aosp roms
But I have not noticed this yet will try this
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cesarcerros31 said:
Don't hate the devs they are the reason there is aosp roms
But I have not noticed this yet will try this
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Definitely not having on ANY devs if that's what it sounded like I apologize. But I believe many are aware of the ****ty wifi drivers with aosp roms that's all I was saying.
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I have this problem as well. My AOSP will show 2 bars when three is full, even when one foot away from my router. Same goes for cell signal. If i am sitting at home i get about 2 bars on Sense, 0 on AOSP. And its not the "AOSP tells you the true signal" bs. When on sense it operates just fine. Restore an AOSP rom, no signal, no calls. It sucks, but i bear with it cuz i love that CM7. With that said, I sure later versions will be even better, and will address the issue. It seems pretty widespread.
Bump... same issue here.
oubravs2b said:
I have TERRIBLE Wifi signal strength on any AOSP ROMs (yes, I tested and radios, etc. are up to date). Anyone have this same issue and have a fix?? Sense ROMs are fine for me. I really want to use a few of these, but can't get over the terrible Wifi service.
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I've noticed the same thing. I'm assuming the way Sense ROMS are woven into the framework of the phone is the reason for the difference in signal strength. I love AOSP roms but the signal quirks are just too much for me at this point to make the switch permanent.
I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to increase the wifi reception? I've been flashing between roms and it seems that the sense roms tend to get better wifi reception than the aosp roms. My issue is that I'm not a big fan of sense and really would rather be on a gingerbread aosp rom, but on the several I've tried the wifi reception is crap in comparison to the sense roms. I've tried different kernels and didn't really see any notable improvement there either.
So what I'm really looking for is if there are any software tweaks that will help with this.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!
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I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to increase the wifi reception?
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There is no way to increase the signal strength on the phone. The only way to increase reception is to get a more powerful router, or move the current router you have to a higher location.
Then why the difference in reception from one rom to another? Its the same hardware the same router and the same distance from the router to the phone but very noticable difference in reception. One sense rom clocked over a full meg better than another (roughly 2Mbps vs. 1Mbps, crap connection I know) from the same spot that an aosp rom wouldn't even connect at all.
Based on my flashing and testing I respectfully, though completely, disagree.
My problem is that I'm not a dev and don't know where to start to research this within the software. I've seen dev's mention adjusting the wifi scan in roms posted in the dev thread, so it seems that some adjustments can be made.
Again, if anyone has any insight regarding this it would be appreciated.
~j~
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Sense doesn't give true wifi signal
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Speedtest does, and it looks like he tested his speeds
face the router and begin walking in that direction.
Well I've been on AOSP ROMs for a couple of months now, and I love everything about them. The only thing I HATE is the service problems that come with them. So I switched back to the stock TW rom and updated my PRL and profile, my PRL went from 25012 to 25014 and my service at home (with an airave, mind you) was 3G and full bars. Thinking I had it all settled, I went back to AOSP and I'm still getting the service issues I had before: either I'm getting 1x + full bars, or 3G and 1-3 fluctuating bars, usually steady at 2 (again, this is on an airave, and my girlfriend with her iphone 5 has full 3G bars at my house). I've flashed every radio under the sun but they seem to make no noticeable difference.
Any ideas/suggestions? I'm not opposed to switching back to a TW rom...but I'd rather stay on AOSP. It seems to me that I have no choice though.
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Well I've been on AOSP ROMs for a couple of months now, and I love everything about them. The only thing I HATE is the service problems that come with them. So I switched back to the stock TW rom and updated my PRL and profile, my PRL went from 25012 to 25014 and my service at home (with an airave, mind you) was 3G and full bars. Thinking I had it all settled, I went back to AOSP and I'm still getting the service issues I had before: either I'm getting 1x + full bars, or 3G and 1-3 fluctuating bars, usually steady at 2 (again, this is on an airave, and my girlfriend with her iphone 5 has full 3G bars at my house). I've flashed every radio under the sun but they seem to make no noticeable difference.
Any ideas/suggestions? I'm not opposed to switching back to a TW rom...but I'd rather stay on AOSP. It seems to me that I have no choice though.
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Are you certain about the strength of your signal on TW? I know that the original stock TW does a little trick in making you think that you have higher signal than you actually do (showing 3G when you really only have 1x... showing 4 bars when you really don't have a strong signal). It's best to compare the actual signal strength in dB (under System Settings - About Phone - Status). I know some custom TW Roms fixed this so that it's consistent with AOSP, but I don't know which ones have and which haven't (and if it's not listed in their features, it's hard to tell without diving into some code). I'm not sure if the iPhone does the same trick as stock TW does, but I know my wife's iPhone 4S typically gets worse reception than my GS3, so anecdotally, it doesn't.
On the other hand, if you're experiencing considerably slower speeds on AOSP compared to TW, it might be cause to stick with TW. Now-a-days, TW is creeping closer to getting the features of AOSP, so it might be time to switch back.
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Are you certain about the strength of your signal on TW? I know that the original stock TW does a little trick in making you think that you have higher signal than you actually do (showing 3G when you really only have 1x... showing 4 bars when you really don't have a strong signal). It's best to compare the actual signal strength in dB (under System Settings - About Phone - Status). I know some custom TW Roms fixed this so that it's consistent with AOSP, but I don't know which ones have and which haven't (and if it's not listed in their features, it's hard to tell without diving into some code). I'm not sure if the iPhone does the same trick as stock TW does, but I know my wife's iPhone 4S typically gets worse reception than my GS3, so anecdotally, it doesn't.
On the other hand, if you're experiencing considerably slower speeds on AOSP compared to TW, it might be cause to stick with TW. Now-a-days, TW is creeping closer to getting the features of AOSP, so it might be time to switch back.
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I should've added that I did compare signals under status and my signal reading was true. But I suppose you're right, time to learn all about TW roms.
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I should've added that I did compare signals under status and my signal reading was true. But I suppose you're right, time to learn all about TW roms.
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There is one thing you can try (obviously Nandroid up before trying it). There's a thread that talks about poor 3G speed and the things you can do to fix it (not limited to AOSP or TW Roms, if I recall correctly). Here's the thread. I personally wouldn't flash the zip in the thread without look through it (I think it replaces your build.prop), but I would follow the steps in the linked thread to see if those tweaks will work.
So should I try the tweaks first and then resort to the zip?
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So should I try the tweaks first and then resort to the zip?
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I'm wary of the zip because I'm not sure if it's for TW or AOSP roms (doesn't say in the thread). If I recall correctly, the zip is just a modified build.prop sysctl.conf which includes the tweaks from his linked thread. He just made the flashable zip so people won't have to mess around inside system files. But since I don't know if it's specifically for AOSP, I'd personally be a little wary of it.
Edit: Since it's not a build.prop and is instead a sysctl.conf file, it might be safe to flash. I haven't looked too much into this recently, but I'd less wary since it's not a build.prop file you're flashing.
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I'm wary of the zip because I'm not sure if it's for TW or AOSP roms (doesn't say in the thread). If I recall correctly, the zip is just a modified build.prop which includes the tweaks from his linked thread. He just made the flashable zip so people won't have to mess around inside system files. But since I don't know if it's specifically for AOSP, I'd personally be a little wary of it.
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I see, well thanks a bunch topherk I'll do my research and see how it goes
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Hey OP... I don't know how phone savy you are lol, but........ here ya go.
Scroll half way down and do those tweaks.
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On the other hand, if you're experiencing considerably slower speeds on AOSP compared to TW, it might be cause to stick with TW. Now-a-days, TW is creeping closer to getting the features of AOSP, so it might be time to switch back.
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Like which features?! I've yet to see that lol.
Joe0113 said:
Hey OP... I don't know how phone savy you are lol, but........ here ya go.
Scroll half way down and do those tweaks.
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I'm guessing I use the "signal tweaks"?
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I'm guessing I use the "signal tweaks"?
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Do this at your own risk and follow EVERY SINGLE STEP.. Read, read and read some more. And when you think you're done reading, just do it one more time! And yes, signal tweaks and you can even do NetSpeed Tweaks as well to increase data speeds.
You could use a tw ROM with morphology. I have that and the aosp launcher.
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You could use a tw ROM with morphology. I have that and the aosp launcher.
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I might do that, and I did confirm that my TW rom isn't playing a trick on me, the readings are true. On AOSP I'm usually at 80-100 dbm and 2 asu, whereas on TW I was at 75 dbm and 8/16 asu. This makes me sad ): I tried every tweak mentioned in this thread but to no avail. Oh well, TW isn't so bad, I just really like AOSP.
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I might do that, and I did confirm that my TW rom isn't playing a trick on me, the readings are true. On AOSP I'm usually at 80-100 dbm and 2 asu, whereas on TW I was at 75 dbm and 8/16 asu. This makes me sad ): I tried every tweak mentioned in this thread but to no avail. Oh well, TW isn't so bad, I just really like AOSP.
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TW always tells you your 1X signal strength even under status in about phone. AOSP is telling you your 3G or LTE strength so that's why it seems different. Download SignalCheck from the Play store & it should tell you your actual signal strengths.
One reason that's kept me from flashing an AOSP rom and keeping it is the latest strength issue. I live in the middle of no where basically but some how I have lte which averages 10+mbps on two but drops to under 2mbps on every aspect romantic I've tried. I there a reason for this and any fixes available?
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I'm curious to see what others say about this. Others have said that AOSP ROMs simply display your true signal strength and that's why people think they have weaker signal but you are actually experiencing much weaker signal.
Just for more clarification, if you use an AOSP rom and have weak signal, can you just flash a tw rom and instantly have normal signal?
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I'm curious to see what others say about this. Others have said that AOSP ROMs simply display your true signal strength and that's why people think they have weaker signal but you are actually experiencing much weaker signal.
Just for more clarification, if you use an AOSP rom and have weak signal, can you just flash a tw rom and instantly have normal signal?
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Once I go back to tw my bars average 3-4 and speed tests are in the10+mbps range
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AOSP roms display your true voice/evdo signal, that's different from LTE/data.
The reason users tend to get less mobile data performance on AOSP is because, essentially, AOSP is ported to our device and to any device that is not a Nexus. That's why we have issues, because people like CM and preludedrew (evervolv) have to work with the files provided to us by the OEM, files which are not compiled for AOSP, but for whatever proprietary UI came with the phone (Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur, LG UI, etc etc).
However, now with the leak from the S4 Google Edition, we should see all around improvements to the US SGS3 CM10.1 and other 4 2.2 AOSP roms.
See my post here for the reason behind that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43084900
CNexus said:
AOSP roms display your true voice/evdo signal, that's different from LTE/data.
The reason users tend to get less mobile data performance on AOSP is because, essentially, AOSP is ported to our device and to any device that is not a Nexus. That's why we have issues, because people like CM and preludedrew (evervolv) have to work with the files provided to us by the OEM, files which are not compiled for AOSP, but for whatever proprietary UI came with the phone (Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur, LG UI, etc etc).
However, now with the leak from the S4 Google Edition, we should see all around improvements to the US SGS3 CM10.1 and other 4 2.2 AOSP roms.
See my post here for the reason behind that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43084900
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Wow you guys work hella fast I might even flash some nightlies now
Edit: If one wanted to could they simply place these files in any AOSP rom they wanted or would it be best to just wait for the dev to do so?
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Having more bars on tw is apparently normal. Something about the way it displays the signal is different than the way AOSP roms do it. I don't know all the technical aspects of it. IIRC the bars aren't an indication of how strong your data is though. I've been in places where I had "full bars" but no data at all.
Have you tried liquidsmooth? It's my daily and haven't had problems with LTE. My house is out in a hilly area and don't get LTE there but I do at my friends house and the speed hasn't been any slower there as far as I can tell. 22mb down usually there.
Edit: CNex to the rescue lol
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Wow you guys work hella fast I might even flash some nightlies now
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All thanks go to SamMobile for providing that leak lol.
Someone in the CM thread commented that after flashing the nightly with the S4GE blobs, their 3G went from around 500kbps to 1500kbps...but of course ymmv (your mileage may vary).
Sadly the issue still remains the same
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I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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Actually, my data is absolute sh!te and it's a pain to load nearly anything. I get data transfer speeds in the very low kbps.
lvpre said:
Some of it has to do with the rom. Some aosp roms show a more accurate bar reading...which is why your's is fewer. I wouldn't really get to worked up over it. They both probably get similar reception and data speeds on 3g
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I'm going to agree Ivpre. I would not get worked up over it. Unless of course it is necessary for you to have more Bars showing then him :silly: . You do most likely get the same Data Speeds.
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Actually, my data is absolute sh!te and it's a pain to load nearly anything. I get data transfer speeds in the very low kbps.
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I would suggest Updating PRL / Profile. Maybe even trying a different Modem. Not everyone gets great reception on MD4. You may have to experiment to see which works better for you.
If you want to properly know if your device is getting less of a signal you need to flash a TW rom, preferably one which is close to stock update prl and profile. Then check your signal and data speeds compared to your friends. AOSP roms remember are built from leaks, and ported from other devices. There is no true aosp source for the Sprint S3. So there's lots of patches and coding which goes into getting the cdma radios working.
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I'm going to agree Ivpre. I would not get worked up over it. Unless of course it is necessary for you to have more Bars showing then him :silly: . You do most likely get the same Data Speeds.
I would suggest Updating PRL / Profile. Maybe even trying a different Modem. Not everyone gets great reception on MD4. You may have to experiment to see which works better for you.
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We've actually done a Speedtest together and his had a higher data rate than mine. I've had different modem with the earlier builds of Liquid Smooth as well, but still low reception. I've also updated my PRL/Profile in the past in hopes that it'll help but sadly no.
I'll look into having a TouchWiz ROM versus this one. I just love how LiquidSmooth is, so hoping I can find a TW ROM that's just as fun.
EDIT: I don't even know how to find a TouchWiz ROM. I figured it would say "TW" along the subject line, the same way AOSP does, but alas I cannot find that. I have heard of Goodness, is that a TW ROM?
Volknochi said:
I have my Galaxy S3 and my coworker has an HTC Evo. Both of us have Sprint and yet his phone gets 3 bars of reception whereas mine only gets 1, 2 if I'm very, very lucky.
AFAIK, he's running stock, unrooted and I'm running rooted with latest LiquidSmooth 2.9 with the MD4 modem. No idea what modem he has.
What could be the reason why he's getting better reception? Better antenna build in the Evo?
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Some devices just get better reception than others. Better internal antennae.
My mom's old photon always got better reception than my 3d & s3
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I'll look into having a TouchWiz ROM versus this one. I just love how LiquidSmooth is, so hoping I can find a TW ROM that's just as fun.
EDIT: I don't even know how to find a TouchWiz ROM. I figured it would say "TW" along the subject line, the same way AOSP does, but alas I cannot find that. I have heard of Goodness, is that a TW ROM?
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Most likely cause all the roms which do not say AOSP or CM or AOKP or something like that are TW roms. I would recommend MOAR or TPR The People's Rom.
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OP,
Unless you're being very careful with your comparisons and using quantitative, and not qualitative, data like db, seeing more "signal bars" means nothing.
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You must also keep in mind, that even after you switch to a TW Rom. There is no guarantee that you will see better reception. IE more bars. There are quite a few variables involved. What you should concentrate on is making your device the best it can be for you. As CNexus stated. When comparing you have to compare Apples to Apples, and Oranges to Oranges.
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