is there any way to get sense apps like the Music, camera, and phone onto vanlla phones or on cyanogen
I was hoping there was a way to get the dialer from a sense rom onto any stock rom. I actually may try that out later this week and see if it works (doubtful).
It requires sense framework for the Widgets as I've asked this before, as far as camera mods and what not I've seen that on vanilla roms but I'm sure there are geniuses that dwell on XDA that could figure it out.
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Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.
Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
Your sig claims you've owned 4 android phones. So you're obviously not a super noob. So my question to you is -
Did searching just not occur to you, or did you honestly believe you were not the 7,548th person to ask this question?
I am not asking about sense widgets because im aware that i need to have the sense framework running but im just wondering about the 2 apps Camera and Music. i know that enmothers rom gives you the option to install the 2 if you want and am just wondering if its possible to do the same for cyanogen.
also i have used the Sense Roms for the G2 but i was never really a fan of non Vanilla android.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
Enomther's TheOfficial has the option of both the HTC Camera and the HTC Music app - plus you can install the HTC IME (onscreen keyboard) easily as an APK (there's even a kitchen that lets you customize the colors and such).
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A couple of apps may have been REBUILT to work without sense, but its not an easy job and certainly isn't something a lot of people have done.
the HTC IME keyboard was pretty much an entire rewrite of the code based on what the htc one looked like, its not the apk from sense just moved over.
I can't comment on the camera or music, but I imagine these are the same.
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Sense apps have never and will never work on a non-sense based rom as it has far too much reliance on lots of frameworks (its a messy area).
The closest you will get is a rom like SuperVillain (out later today) that is a Sense based rom but with Rosie (Launcher) and widgets removed so looks like vanilla but still has all the sense apps working.
Keep an eye on villainrom.co.uk or the dev section here on xda for the rom release of SuperVillainZ
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There has been a sense app ported to stock. Enom ported the HTC camera to his stock ROM for the Nexus... I remember running it.. That was a great ROM
Sorry, I see this has already been covered... But I know the app wasn't rewritten, it was a straight port, with the stock framework rewritten, so it was a straight app port
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I really like the browser from sense, I use lpp for widgets so I'm good there. I asked about getting some sort of plug in for google translate onto vanilla browser and got nothing but flame. Hopefully gingie brings this to us... I mean is there any other plug ins other then flash? Honest question
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Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Previously I was using ARHD (sense) and go launcher, and I've just updated to the new ARHD with sense 3. As much as I like it, it's not quite as minimalist as I liked with go launcher and my battery life is not as good (sense is a battery hod, no denying).
I'm tempted to go the other way; CM7 with no sense features. What are the advantages of this? Why do some people prefer no sense?
Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
I can't answer all your questions however I recently went from RCMix3d 1.4 runny to CM7 and I'm loving the change. The battery life is excellent and it makes me wonder why I was using sense in the first place.
I don't even miss it that much, apart from the odd thing. I'll take longer battery life over flashy show off animations any day
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Basically I'd like to be persuaded as to whether to use a sense rom (e.g ARHD) or a nosense rom (e.g CM7). And if I use CM7 can I install the HTC dialer and messaging app?
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Can I install the sense APKs of the apps I like? The htc dialer is great, as is the messaging/
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No, the HTC apps won't run without the Sense framework.
Beyond that, I'm not going to persuade you with way; the only way to decide is to backup, flash cm7 and see which one you prefer.
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I suggest giving MIUI a try. It is basedd om CM7,has great features and is very easy to customise!
Definately take a look at MIUI as well Its an AOSP rom like CM7 but with some very nice additions. If you like to try out different themes and lots of personalization options MIUI is definately the way to go.
But in the end both ways (sense or no sense) have their advantages. What i dont like about sense is that its so bloated up with stuff you rarely ever use. You can cleane some of it with scripts like rom cleaner but still we're talking 350mb rom (sense) vs 80-90mb rom (CM7 or MIUI).
On the other hand with sense you get one good looking theme and good to very good apps for all the features of your phone. On CM7 you might need to find another app to play music via DLNA for example and another app for weather and so on.
sense and see how you feel if you dont like then go for no sense .....simple really
im with sense atm and feel that it is good
you could try the better of both worlds by flashing DeDense from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207645
Try Helios 0913 for a CM7 rom if you're gonna try one. It'll make you not wanna go back. These forums are crowded with sense roms that look exactly the same and offer nothing different, except some visual stuff, than the other 20 or so sense roms that are here. A good AOSP rom is hard to find on HTC phones now. Like I said though, try Helios or better yet, Hydrogenmod and you'll forget all about sense.
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I love Helios too but, more broadly, I went the way of CM7-based ROMs in general + Lord Clockan's amazing kernels and never looked back.
I never enjoyed such a snappy and responsive device when I was on Sense-based ROMs. Ditto battery life. I'm a massive CyanogenMod fanboy now, and will be flashing Nightlies (which are in a very good condition ATM) until Richfish updates Helios.
People on Sense ROMs have good things to report too, though, so my suggestion (which you've probably already heard a million times) is to try stuff out for yourself.
No one will be able to tell you what you would prefer. Test out a CM rom and a sense rom. Make your own mind up.
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Can anyone downgrade Htc One V to android 2.3 with sense 3.6 for full animated Rose effects, or upgrade to Full Sense 4.0 with all animation and effects.
Can anyone (Developer) Port Android 2.3 with Sense 3.6 to HTC One V?
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Can anyone downgrade Htc One V to android 2.3 with sense 3.6 for full animated Rose effects, or upgrade to Full Sense 4.0 with all animation and effects.
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Good question, I was actually wondering the same, while android 4.0 is here working on this phone, I feel sense 4 makes it a bit sluggish....
Stock android 4.0.3 or even stock gingerbread on this phone would be awesome...
That's awesome idea, i would love to see Android 2.3.6 and Sense 3.6 on my ONE V. Maybe i'm just not used to the 4.0 yet
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That's awesome idea, i would love to see Android 2.3.6 and Sense 3.6 on my ONE V. Maybe i'm just not used to the 4.0 yet
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Same!
To me, sense 4 is too....BIG for the lack of a better word
The icons are way to big, as are menus, as is just everything....
Maybe I'm just picky like that though hahaha
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Same!
To me, sense 4 is too....BIG for the lack of a better word
The icons are way to big, as are menus, as is just everything....
Maybe I'm just picky like that though hahaha
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plus there are some things that are missing like the inability to manipulate with the homescreen
Sense 3.6 is 4.0.3 isn't it? 2.3.6 was sense 3.5.
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Sense 3.6 is 4.0.3 isn't it? 2.3.6 was sense 3.5.
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That is correct. I like Sense 3.5 on my old Desire S and I think it's possibble to have custom sense 3.5 running on 4.0.3. that would be awesome to have Sense 3.5+ICS features.
Android 2.3.x with Sense 3.5 is good
I think it is batter to have Android 2.3.x with Sense 3.5 for Htc One V, to perform better then Android 4.0.x, so i hope there is any developer the port it from Desire S or Desire HD
you guys are picky..
sense ui 4 is so beautiful.
all we need is a cm9 build and everyone can install any launcher he wants , make changes to icons, menus, homescreens... everything!
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you guys are picky..
sense ui 4 is so beautiful.
all we need is a cm9 build and everyone can install any launcher he wants , make changes to icons, menus, homescreens... everything!
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but doesnt cm9 use stock android? i mean we wont have htc sense on it will we ?
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you guys are picky..
sense ui 4 is so beautiful.
all we need is a cm9 build and everyone can install any launcher he wants , make changes to icons, menus, homescreens... everything!
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We're not picky, we just want to have more options. For the CM9 fans there should be CM9 ROM and for the Android 2.3/Sense 3.6 there should be ROM too. I strongly feel that the hardwer of HTC One V is designed for Sense 3.6. HTC made a mistake by porting Sense 4.0 to this smartphone in first place because we didn't get the full Sense 4.0 but something similar to "beta" i.e HTC customized the Sense 4.0 specially for the One V which resulted with losing some genuine Sense features like the Leap view.
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We're not picky, we just want to have more options. For the CM9 fans there should be CM9 ROM and for the Android 2.3/Sense 3.6 there should be ROM too. I strongly feel that the hardwer of HTC One V is designed for Sense 3.6. HTC made a mistake by porting Sense 4.0 to this smartphone in first place because we didn't get the full Sense 4.0 but something similar to "beta" i.e HTC customized the Sense 4.0 specially for the One V which resulted with losing some genuine Sense features like the Leap view.
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When asking for stuff, make sure to get your nomenclacture correct
Froyo / eclair (Android 2.1 / 2.2) had "sense", referred to as "old sense" or 1.9
Gingerbread (Android 2.3) had sense 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 (the latest referred to as "runny" ROMs)
Handsets that shipped with gingerbread, and were then upgraded to ics came with sense 3.6 HTC wanted the same user experience as 3.0 / 3.5 for its "older" handsets
Ice cream sandwhich (Android 4.0 +) sense 3.6 (upgraded gb phones), sense 4.0 lite (One V), and sense 4.0 full
So, NO handsets, as in NONE have gingerbread and sense 3.6......ZERO.
I can understand asking for:
1. Gingerbread / sense 3.5
2. ICS with sense 3.6
3. ICS with a sense 3.6 / 4.0 hybrid (like the old 2.1 /3.0 hybrids)
4. ICS with full sense 4.0
But not gingerbread and sense 3.6........doesn't exist.
I have been running sense since the beginning, literally, the "cube" on the HTC touch, then manilla 2D, 3D, sense as in winmo sense ala HD2, then Android sense. When talking about sense, proof read and make sure your not mixing up the varients and what they can run on. You cannot ask for a "port" for something that doesn't exist.
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but doesnt cm9 use stock android? i mean we wont have htc sense on it will we ?
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yes. no sense. if you want sense. stick with sense 4. it is much more optimized than any other older sense, I can tell you that! but if you want a faster phone with no lag, go with stock android with no user interface. install a great launcher like Nova and enjoy android experience how was meant to be!
We do not need Sense... All we need is stock working Android 4 ICS build and cm9.. If someone want to help me port that Rom please pm me.. I do not have the phone yet.
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When asking for stuff, make sure to get your nomenclacture correct
Froyo / eclair (Android 2.1 / 2.2) had "sense", referred to as "old sense" or 1.9
Gingerbread (Android 2.3) had sense 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 (the latest referred to as "runny" ROMs)
Handsets that shipped with gingerbread, and were then upgraded to ics came with sense 3.6 HTC wanted the same user experience as 3.0 / 3.5 for its "older" handsets
Ice cream sandwhich (Android 4.0 +) sense 3.6 (upgraded gb phones), sense 4.0 lite (One V), and sense 4.0 full
So, NO handsets, as in NONE have gingerbread and sense 3.6......ZERO.
I can understand asking for:
1. Gingerbread / sense 3.5
2. ICS with sense 3.6
3. ICS with a sense 3.6 / 4.0 hybrid (like the old 2.1 /3.0 hybrids)
4. ICS with full sense 4.0
But not gingerbread and sense 3.6........doesn't exist.
I have been running sense since the beginning, literally, the "cube" on the HTC touch, then manilla 2D, 3D, sense as in winmo sense ala HD2, then Android sense. When talking about sense, proof read and make sure your not mixing up the varients and what they can run on. You cannot ask for a "port" for something that doesn't exist.
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I didn't know these things until now, thanks for clarifying that.
Gingerbread with Sense 3.5 &/or ICS with Sense 3.6 is what I need.
Gingerbread / sense 3.5
Macedonicus said:
I didn't know these things until now, thanks for clarifying that.
Gingerbread with Sense 3.5 &/or ICS with Sense 3.6 is what I need.
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Yes as we need
1. Gingerbread / sense 3.5
4. ICS with full sense 4.0
any one from them, whatever easy to port with full function.
but we like to have full animated Sense as it was i think option 1. Gingerbread with Sense 3.5 as best for HTC One V and compatible with hardware.
I like choice as much as anyone, any "flashaholic" does. The more the better.
There is always the possibility of "rooted stock" that you can add flashable zips to. Examples would be added leap view (available on the desire), rc team tweaks, optimo tweaks etc which offer different animation on / off, different Rosie (that's the name for the sense launcher btw) mods, flashable themes (requires deodexed ROMs), etc.
My so called list was the various sense / android combos that could work on the One V hardware, by no means meant to be definitive. I have not heard of many people wanting to downgrade their version of android though, sense 3.6 is basically sense 3.5 reworked for ICS.
Shubbysomethinorother (sorry Dude!) was a talented dev on the Desire, I have always enjoyed his ROMs. Cpk5 (sorry if I got that one wrong too) is a talented themer. Asking guys like that for ROM extras like flashable zips that may or may not work on a rooted stock ROM is the best, imho way to go for most as it allows you to add the features you want, and ignore the rest. No one ROM will satisfy everyone.
A device with alot of dev support tends to get this, if not, be nice to the devs you have! Politely asking for features, and not demanding etas etc is a good way to start.
Good luck guys, myself I keep visiting this phone at my local store comparing it to my Desire. It's cheap enough off contract to make a nice development toy while waiting for a One S with real storage, or the "two" series!
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Good luck guys, myself I keep visiting this phone at my local store comparing it to my Desire. It's cheap enough off contract to make a nice development toy while waiting for a One S with real storage, or the "two" series!
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Just take the plunge. I bought one as a stop gap until the next HTC Nexus device (hopefully released November as per the rumours). Until then, the One V is great. Just needs an AOSP ROM really.
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jmitr said:
I like choice as much as anyone, any "flashaholic" does. The more the better.
There is always the possibility of "rooted stock" that you can add flashable zips to. Examples would be added leap view (available on the desire), rc team tweaks, optimo tweaks etc which offer different animation on / off, different Rosie (that's the name for the sense launcher btw) mods, flashable themes (requires deodexed ROMs), etc.
My so called list was the various sense / android combos that could work on the One V hardware, by no means meant to be definitive. I have not heard of many people wanting to downgrade their version of android though, sense 3.6 is basically sense 3.5 reworked for ICS.
Shubbysomethinorother (sorry Dude!) was a talented dev on the Desire, I have always enjoyed his ROMs. Cpk5 (sorry if I got that one wrong too) is a talented themer. Asking guys like that for ROM extras like flashable zips that may or may not work on a rooted stock ROM is the best, imho way to go for most as it allows you to add the features you want, and ignore the rest. No one ROM will satisfy everyone.
A device with alot of dev support tends to get this, if not, be nice to the devs you have! Politely asking for features, and not demanding etas etc is a good way to start.
Good luck guys, myself I keep visiting this phone at my local store comparing it to my Desire. It's cheap enough off contract to make a nice development toy while waiting for a One S with real storage, or the "two" series!
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me too. I bought this phone while Im saving for HTC "Two" series next year. I dont mind if this phone is not upgadeable to the next android OS (5.0).. this is my while-Im-waiting-phone
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1ceb0x said:
you guys are picky..
sense ui 4 is so beautiful.
all we need is a cm9 build and everyone can install any launcher he wants , make changes to icons, menus, homescreens... everything!
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yeah! stock android gingerbread or icecreamsandwich would be great. htc sense is consuming too much RAM on HTC One V.