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Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
So i've been reading for over an hour and didn't find an answer to this so I guess it warrants a new thread.
I'm currently on Calkulin's 3.0 (EL29) Gingerbread Rom with Rouge 1.1.2 recovery.
So I planned on using Odin to flash stock EL29 tar. then manually update ICS (unless I get the OTA pushed automatically). Then plan on rooting ICS and adding CWM.
Two Questions:
1. Is that the best way to go about getting ICS?
2. After I update, root and reinstall Titanium Backup Pro can I batch restore everything I had or am I asking for trouble by doing that?
I don't have tons of apps but I did do Calkulin's "Bare Rom Converter" after installing his ROM. (not sure if that makes a difference).
I don't know about using batch titanium... To be safe I would use app backup and restore in play store to keep the apps you want and use titanium after you are running the rooted setup you choose, to then restore data to the apps. Never tried running batch this would be a safe method.
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Just batch restore. Prefer to do App Only and then only restore data to things like games with progress or apps that would be a pain in the ass to configire.
The main area you would actually have trouble in anyways is restoring old data to a new version of an app. I always update before I backup and the only things I do not restore from a backup is titanium backup and any apps already installed. So you might try to restore data to say swype and there be a version difference.
Restoring game data should not be an issue, restoring system app data might give you massive grief through.
Thank you for your replies. I'll leave system apps alone and won't restore Titanium or Swype. I've updated everything from play store.
Might just restore downloaded apps & just one at a time.
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So I haven't found the answer to this yet....
So i had to fully flash and unroot to take it my Gnex back to Verizon and I made a Nandroid backup but now after all is said and done I rerooted and installed a ROM and downloaded Titanium Backup and nothing was there. The folder was gone. I didn't realize it would wipe that folder away. I thought it would be like a factory reset (data/cache/dalvik) like I always do before flashing a new ROM. I don't have a backup of that Titanium backup folder, but is there a chance if I restore from a Nandroid backup up that it'll bring the folder back.
Not quite sure how the restore works in that sense. Any advice or answers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Nope.
A nandroid will restore your apps and such though...
So restore the nandroid (you have a copy on your PC, if I'm understanding correctly?) and create a Titanium Backup then.
Yes I do have a Nandroid backup copy on my PC. Basically I wanted my apps back but wasn't going to do the Nandroid restore if it wasn't going to bring back my apps and data. Now I know to keep a copy of the Titanium back up folder as well as a copy of the Nandroid on my computer so I don't run into this again.
Hopefully I won't have to go back to Verizon soon and have to even worry about it again.
Thanks for your help!
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There's also the option of using the app appextractor. It extracts from your nandroid so you don't have to actually restore the whole thing. I use titanium backup myself, so I've never tried using app extractor to restore apps, but it has the option and it works great for restoring SMS.
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95Z28 said:
There's also the option of using the app appextractor. It extracts from your nandroid so you don't have to actually restore the whole thing. I use titanium backup myself, so I've never tried using app extractor to restore apps, but it has the option and it works great for restoring SMS.
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People sometimes complain of TB force closing during restore and such; which I've never had.
But I did get this when trying to restore applications from a nandroid with Titanium the couple of times I tried.
Granted, this was probably 10 updates ago, not sure if anything has changed.
Titanium backup will extract apps from your nandroid too as previously mentioned. Not sure of the steps as I don't have my phone with me at the moment but I have done it many times. The online help for TB has detailed instructions. Basically you choose extract from nandroid then point it to the nandroid and tick the apps you want restored. presto it restores them, However if you don't have the paid version you will have to do them one at a time. In the future you can set a schedule for TB to send your backup folder to Dropbox or google drive also. That way you can restore from there in case something catastrophic happens.
I haven't had to use it yet so can't say how good it is but the app Nandroid Browser is supposed to allow you to browse thru the backups in memory and you can pick what you want restored.
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Just use Titanium. That's why it has a restore from nandroid option.
Don't like titanium. Never works for me...and yes...i do know how to read the directions but i would still get force close issues on some apps.
Supposedly can extract and restore any file from it. Single apk files...whatever...and move to sd, dropbox...
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Jubakuba said:
People sometimes complain of TB force closing during restore and such; which I've never had.
But I did get this when trying to restore applications from a nandroid with Titanium the couple of times I tried.
Granted, this was probably 10 updates ago, not sure if anything has changed.
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I didn't realize titanium had an extract from nandroid feature. But I never have problems with titanium force closing either, months ago it would hang occasionally during batch restores but that has been fixed.
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I was talking about the app nandroid browser that extracts single files. And i always got fc from titanium. I use app2zip and flash all my apps back in while in recovery at same time as Rom
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I was talking about the app nandroid browser that extracts single files. And i always got fc from titanium. I use app2zip and flash all my apps back in while in recovery at same time as Rom
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App2zip doesn't restore app data. It's nothing you can't do with a root file explorer. You could easily just copy your apps and stick em in the ROM or Gapps zips too if you didn't care about the data.
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App2zip doesn't restore app data. It's nothing you can't do with a root file explorer. You could easily just copy your apps and stick em in the ROM or Gapps zips too if you didn't care about the data.
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No it doesn't restore data but as long as you don't clear your storage is still there and i don't have any apps that need data restored. I don't play games or anything like that. I did see they have an old final fantasy in play store tho..All my bookmarks are in sync with desktop so those always come back. While not for people who need data restored it works for me since Google hasn't been restoring any of my apps for quite some time. App2zip is so much faster than hunting and installing one by one
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Just curious, couldn't you backup data using titanium and backup apk using that zip method? So you can backup the apk and then flash it, then after restore the data with titanium? Just a thought
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
I don't really have any data worth saving. My memory is full of roms, pics, and recovery files. That's about it.
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I'm not a flashaholic, but do from time to time especially when a new version of my favorite ROM is released. I was wondering what the easiest and quickest to restore my phone to the way it was before flashing the new ROM. I mean apps and launcher. I have Titanium and My Backup pro but it still takes a couple of hours of messing around to get back to normal. If anyone has a quicker way I'd love to hear it.
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I'm not a flashaholic, but do from time to time especially when a new version of my favorite ROM is released. I was wondering what the easiest and quickest to restore my phone to the way it was before flashing the new ROM. I mean apps and launcher. I have Titanium and My Backup pro but it still takes a couple of hours of messing around to get back to normal. If anyone has a quicker way I'd love to hear it.
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I assume you have a custom recovery installed since you mentioned flashing roms? If so, do a complete nandroid/backup (CWM/TWRP) of your phone just prior to flashing anything (good idea to do this prior to any flash). In TWRP, you can name your backup file so you can remember what rom/kernel/modem/recovery/etc you had at the time of this backup. Usually takes around 5-6 min to back up ~ 2Gb (and conversely, to restore). When you restore, do proper partition wipes first, then restore your desired backup... phone should be exactly as it was (apps, launchers, rom, settings, etc).
Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the nandroid have the rom you backed up? Restoring that backup will wipe the new rom.
I use titanium backup as well and it takes me less than 5 minutes to go back to normal. Apps and launcher the same.
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Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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I got you... thought you were looking for a way to restore a complete previous setup (rom/kernel/radio/data/recovery) if you didn't like the rom you are on... sounds like you just want to restore /data partition (which can be done in TWRP)... but won't restore system partition apps (risky). If you are just looking to put your previous 'user' apps/data back, TiBu is an option (only restore "user" apps/data or "missing apps/data". I don't think TiBu will restore your widgets/launchers as the were, but you can individually (within the app) backup Apex, and Nova launcher settings and homescreens... then restore them after you're up and running on the new rom
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way
nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup will do the trick but sometimes when restoring old data I've had some issues with lots of force closes and some other unexplainable strange things going on. It's best to start fresh on a new rom.
Titanium backup is your answer
If you back up apps and data from your personally installed apps, restoring should not cause any problems. If you try to backup and restore system apps and data across different roms (ie tw and aosp), you're likely to experience some problems.
When it comes to system data, it can be hit or miss. Generally the only thing that will likely break is contacts, as each provider (samsung, htc) puts their own spin on it, and it tends to not be compatible. but if you use google to store your contacts, you should be golden. After some time you'll know which parts are compatible across all roms (within the same version family).
So, backup everything you want to keep. And make a full nandroid.
Install your new rom.
Restore your personal apps and data (like angry birds)
Make sure everything is golden.
Make a nandroid
One by one, restore any system data you want (like accounts, wifi access points, mms).
After each one, go through a reboot cycle, make sure everything works.
Nandroid and restore next system data
This way you can easily back out of a restore that breaks something without having to start over again. And you will get a feel for what's restorable and what isnt.
Beware changing back to 4.1 from 4.2. There are threads on this worth reading.
And, yes, nandroid will restore everything just like you had it, assuming you choose to backup -everything- (which is advisable).
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nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup works like charm..but u can restore from nandroid backup too..just install nandroid manager app from play store and restore all ur data including call logs, sms n everything!!
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nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way
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Through philz CWM I'm currently having 3 roms in my back up. After installing a new rom, I just restore data and all my games data comes back without any problem.
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Titanium is the best thing since sliced bread. Although some apps won't give you notifications if you don't clean install them
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Titanium back, my backup pro
these 2 apps have helped me alot while trying out different roms....sometimes when titanium backup fails i use my backup pro