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Thinking of buying this phone from Wirefly.

I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.

Anyone?

it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
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$49.99
with a new Sprint account
look right under the price tag in small writing

Darunion said:
it is only that price with a contract. they will make you sign up for 2yr sprint contract before selling you the phone.
yup confirmed
$49.99
with a new Sprint account
look right under the price tag in small writing
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Wow, I dont know how I missed that. lol
Thank you.

DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.

latindor17 said:
I am with Sprint under my dads account. It is a family plan with my sister, my dad and I. Heres my question, I just want to know if I can order safely from Wirefly without any fuse, in other words, they will send me my phone without attempting to change our plan, rise our bill or anything like that. I just want to upgrade my phone to the Galaxy Nexus with the same plan intact, nothing change. The reason I am asking this is because I once tried to order a phone from Amazon (at the same price of a normal upgrade), and they wanted me to get a brand new number and plan.
Thanks for your help.
P.S. I cant believe they are selling this phone for 50 bucks. I am awed ._.
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Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.

obsanity said:
DO NOT buy from wirefly. There are too many problems with that company to list them all here.
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What? I used Wirefly to get a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade on my T-Mobile account with absolutely no issues. They simply checked to see if I was eligible for an upgrade and once they verified that I was I purchased a Galaxy SIII as an upgrade for $200. They did not screw with my plan at all.
It was much cheaper than going through T-Mobile directly ($379 for the phone at the time) and they shipped the phone extremely fast. I'd use them again in a heartbeat.
** I should mention that I have since sold the Galaxy SIII and reverted back to the GNex because it just wasn't the same. But that's neither here nor there. :highfive:

Wirefly_Kim said:
Hello latindor17: Wirefly can certainly upgrade your phone without changing your plan or the amount you pay every month (provided you’re not on an old grandfathered rate plan the carrier no longer offers, in which case you may be asked to choose a current rate plan – but if that were the case, Wirefly would always contact you for approval before proceeding with your order). Darunion is correct that you will need you renew your contract for 2 years in order to be eligible for the price on the website, but you do not need to get a new number, you may keep your existing number without a problem. There are no other hidden fees or charges, as long as you maintain your account in good standing (and don’t downgrade your plan) within 6 months of your activation date. For more information on this, please see http://www.wirefly.com/about/low-phone-prices/?referringdomain=wirefly&oflag=specialoffer.
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What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.

Wow. I didn't realize that when I did it. Luckily if you plan on sticking with your current contract for more than 6 months this won't effect you (like most people). But it would be quite annoying if you did need to switch carriers quicker than expected.
Good to know.

Morphling27 said:
What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?

jdiddy_ub said:
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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I'm pretty sure no additional tax is charged on top of the listed price. I think T-Mobile charged me an upgrade fee but instantly credited it back to me on my next bill.

Morphling27 said:
What Ms. Kim said here is exactly why you SHOULDN'T go with wirefly or any other similar service. They make you sign an additional contract, apparently in this case for 6 months, that has NOTHING to do with Sprint. Well, technically it does since it stipulates you must stay with Sprint for 6 months, but this contract isn't with Sprint.
So, if you move, find a better deal, find a reason to terminate without an ETF, etc., you're still on the hook with this company for 6 months. If you like buying through a 3rd party, I think Best Buy and Radioshak both still don't require this anti-consumer tactic.
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Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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jdiddy_ub said:
what reason could you find to terminate without an ETF though? as far as i know death is the only exception..and sometimes that doesnt even work
the stipulation (as i understand it) is that you just have to hold your end of the bargain for 6 months (something you already agreed to with your carrier by signing a 2 year anyway)...the reason for the 6 months is because thats the contract they have with the carriers..they recruit or keep customers for carriers and pass on the commission to us (which is why they can sell the phones cheaper)
its not like they are going to kill you if you break the wirefly contract..you just end up paying retail for the phone...as long as you are certain about the phone and plan that you are purchasing i dont see a problem...if you have buyers remorse or you don't do your homework and want to cut the cord..then yeah...you're gonna pay for it..thats kinda what happens when you break any contract (cell phone or otherwise)
i have been researching this company as well...reading customer comments and their fine print..im thinking about upgrading to the Note 2 through them...$300 as opposed to $420 with tmobile ($370 AFTER mail in rebate)
if kim from wirefly is still reading this...the phone is listed as $300 (for upgrades)...do you know what the end cost is gonna be? is it $300? or is there gonna be upgrade fees and tax and my first born?
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.

Wirefly_Kim said:
Hello Morphling,
Our 181 day rule is based on a contractual agreement that we have with the carriers. We don't get compensated for a sale from the carrier until after this time frame has been met. All 3rd party dealers have a stipulation period that customers must abide by even though the terms and conditions can vary from company to company, this is an industry standard. Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.
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Hello jdiddy_ub,
The carrier will charge you an upgrade fee but this is only paid once on the first billing cycle following the upgrade. The taxes for the service is assessed by the carrier and varies depending on where you live. If you are keeping the same rate plan then your taxes should not be any different then what you are currently paying now. Let me know if I can answer any further questions.
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I'm not asking about the tax for service.. i am asking about tax from the cost of the phone
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Buy it from costco wireless. $39.99 upgrade. No extra etf and they refund the $36 upgrafe fee. 90 day exchange. Dont even think you have to be a member.

[Q] T-Mobile S4 Price drop to $579.99

Hello, I noticed today that the retail price of T-Mobile's Galaxy S4 has dropped from $629.99 to $579.99. Is this going to be the new price and for how long? Or is this just the Fathers day discount price. Thanks

Fazeh said:
Hello, I noticed today that the retail price of T-Mobile's Galaxy S4 has dropped from $629.99 to $579.99. Is this going to be the new price and for how long? Or is this just the Fathers day discount price. Thanks
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I don't know the answer, but if this is the new price, I wonder if I'd be able to get the difference refunded since I only bought mine 7 days ago.
Also: Grammar; not grammer. :highfive:

caffeineighted said:
I don't know the answer, but if this is the new price, I wonder if I'd be able to get the difference refunded since I only bought mine 7 days ago.
Also: Grammar; not grammer. :highfive:
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Hopefully it stays at $579.99, T-Mobile didn't have any -$50 comment on the price, so the SRP should be solid.

seems like prices changed
http://www.tmonews.com/2013/06/t-mo...to-99/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

I just got off the phone with T Mobile customer service and asked about this and they told me it is a price drop and not a limited time promotional offer.
But TMoNews is now saying that it's a limited time offer that runs through July 13th. I have a feeling that the promotion was jus tworded poorly and even their customer service people didn't understand how it was originally intended.
Update from TMoNews (See post above for link)
This limited-time promotion is available starting today, June 12, through July 13, 2013, and allows consumers to get the device for less upfront at activation than at the other major national carriers.
Bear in mind that the $579 total cost is with the purchase of an eligible plan. I don't think you can just walk into a T Mobile store and buy one for $579 outright. But I did confirm with customer service that any of the new Value Plans are considered qualifying plans. And that's great for me because my contract expires on June 22nd and I'm switching to the Value Plan and buying the S4 that day!
Also, just worth noting for fun that when I got to that TMoNews.com article there is a giant ad for Sprint at the bottom. Gotta love web ads!

Skipjacks said:
I just got off the phone with T Mobile customer service and asked about this and they told me it is a price drop and not a limited time promotional offer.
But TMoNews is now saying that it's a limited time offer that runs through July 13th. I have a feeling that the promotion was jus tworded poorly and even their customer service people didn't understand how it was originally intended.
Update from TMoNews (See post above for link)
This limited-time promotion is available starting today, June 12, through July 13, 2013, and allows consumers to get the device for less upfront at activation than at the other major national carriers.
Bear in mind that the $579 total cost is with the purchase of an eligible plan. I don't think you can just walk into a T Mobile store and buy one for $579 outright. But I did confirm with customer service that any of the new Value Plans are considered qualifying plans. And that's great for me because my contract expires on June 22nd and I'm switching to the Value Plan and buying the S4 that day!
Also, just worth noting for fun that when I got to that TMoNews.com article there is a giant ad for Sprint at the bottom. Gotta love web ads!
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Spoke to account services (retention) about this and it is in fact only going on till July 13th and they cannot give me an adjustment. I would have to return the phone first then I can buy the phone again to get it for that price. It's really stupid if you ask me as it will probably take close to a month or more for me to get a credit and by then the offer will no longer be available. Any one else have any luck getting adjustments?
BTW when you guys call, immediately ask for retention or accounts services as anyone else do not have a clue about anything..specially customer service. Just lie and say you want to cancel or something in your account is wrong.

aznmode said:
Spoke to account services (retention) about this and it is in fact only going on till July 13th and they cannot give me an adjustment. I would have to return the phone first then I can buy the phone again to get it for that price. It's really stupid if you ask me as it will probably take close to a month or more for me to get a credit and by then the offer will no longer be available. Any one else have any luck getting adjustments?
BTW when you guys call, immediately ask for retention or accounts services as anyone else do not have a clue about anything..specially customer service. Just lie and say you want to cancel or something in your account is wrong.
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Did you pay for the phone with a major credit card?
Some cards come with price match guarentees even if the retailers don't. So that if something goes on sale after you bought it the card company or the bank that issues it will refund the difference even if the store won't.
It's certainly worth a call to your credit card company to ask. Worst they can say is no.

haha i got the phone on june 11 the next day the price drops $50 (thats how much tax was) :laugh:

I called tmobile and they said I needed to return the phone and they would ship me a new one in 2-3 days for $579.00. That won't work as I can not be without a phone for that time. He said to go to store where I bought and they may be able to refund and re-ring at $579 and keep my phone. Will post tomorrow outcome.
Ian B

$549 here:
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/969...-black-or-white-screen-protectors-car-charger
Weird NBC sells phones now. Not a bad deal at all.

This doesn't apply to prepaid does it? The reason I ask is that I don't have a valid ID with which to perform a credit check in order to qualify for the "value plans" to buy the phone post-paid.

I hope I can go to T-Mobile and buy the GS4 for this price and then put it on their $30 prepaid. Has anyone found out if this price is only for their postpaid or if I can buy the phone outright and then use it on prepaid?
Thanks

Mr Ian B said:
I called tmobile and they said I needed to return the phone and they would ship me a new one in 2-3 days for $579.00. That won't work as I can not be without a phone for that time. He said to go to store where I bought and they may be able to refund and re-ring at $579 and keep my phone. Will post tomorrow outcome.
Ian B
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Curious to this outcome. Mine said if I brought it back I would have to pay a $50 restocking fee. The kid on the phone was a real D-bag.

Suchomimus said:
This doesn't apply to prepaid does it? The reason I ask is that I don't have a valid ID with which to perform a credit check in order to qualify for the "value plans" to buy the phone post-paid.
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I'm pretty sure you have to get a post paid plan to get the lower price. The offer is pretty clear that is applies with the qualifying plans.
But I'm also sure a T Mobile store will gladly sell you one for full price and set you up with a pre paid plan.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.

Skipjacks said:
I'm pretty sure you have to get a post paid plan to get the lower price. The offer is pretty clear that is applies with the qualifying plans.
But I'm also sure a T Mobile store will gladly sell you one for full price and set you up with a pre paid plan.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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I had planned to buy the phone online or over the phone. Who knows, maybe I can try and negotiate my way to the $580 for the phone and a $30 prepaid plan.

jkuczy16 said:
I hope I can go to T-Mobile and buy the GS4 for this price and then put it on their $30 prepaid. Has anyone found out if this price is only for their postpaid or if I can buy the phone outright and then use it on prepaid?
Thanks
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YMMV, some people have be enable to and others struck out. Try several tmobile stores in your area. Call first to save time and get their name.
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Suchomimus said:
I had planned to buy the phone online or over the phone. Who knows, maybe I can try and negotiate my way to the $580 for the phone and a $30 prepaid plan.
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Phone listed at $580 on their website, see if u can buy and select $30 prepaid plan the same time. If not see if you can buy online phone, order activation sim kit, and activate plan online when u get sim card.
Ian B
Target sells the $10 micro sim act kits for $10.00
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stevessvt said:
Curious to this outcome. Mine said if I brought it back I would have to pay a $50 restocking fee. The kid on the phone was a real D-bag.
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Store could not do it because postpaid account in which phone was bought was closed since I ported to prepaid $30 plan. Called tmobile customer service and spoke w supervisor. She could not honor price difference since they change prices daily and do not price match within 30 days of purchase date. The don't even match their own price. May try online chat later tonight as last attempt. Something does not sound right here? Any suggestions??
Ian B

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Did you pay for the phone with a major credit card?
Some cards come with price match guarentees even if the retailers don't. So that if something goes on sale after you bought it the card company or the bank that issues it will refund the difference even if the store won't.
It's certainly worth a call to your credit card company to ask. Worst they can say is no.
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Thanks will try that route.

just got back from the Tmob store.... it was a bit of a hastle....
first i called the 800 number but they said as i bought the phone in a store i needed to go back there.
the store then said they didnt sell them for the discounted price so sry....
called another store in a nearby town, they said sure we have it for the new price.
WTF
called back to the original store and they said sry ... come down with your reciept.
got off work ... went home got reciept.. drove to store (yesterday) and they said.. oh sry you already did an exchange (bad phone) you need a manager. I say sure wheres a manager.. they said you need to come back before 5.. oh and by the way tomorrow is your last day (30 days ).
sooooo come back today... and they are like we need to exchange the phone... im like seriously... just try without exchanging first please.
so it finally worked but geez they dont make it easy.....

wow you went to hell and back for that discount. Glad you got it. I bought mine online so calling retention is my only option.
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If your phone has issues and get a replacement like I did then you will get charged $99 for it and get a refund for the previous $149 purchase one they receive the phone.
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Purchasing the One on a new contract, then cancel at day 15 and pay ETF?

Ok, I'm trying to weigh my options here. I have unlimited data and have no plan on ending that until they force me to. I have looked around and have found that a new HTC One still tends to go for around $500-550.
However, Verizon's ETF is $350, and now that the One can be had on contract for $50, it seems to me I could have the phone and only be out $400.
I actually ran this plan by a Best Buy employee as well to see if they could warn me of any pitfalls, and the guy said there would be no problem. But, I seem to find you guys know more than the guys at Best Buy or Verizon! So, here's what I had in mind...:
- Start a NEW LINE of service, not at all linked to my existing account, get whatever cheapest plan they have, and get the One for $50
- Wait out the 14 days "worry free" period, so that I am past the point where they would just want me to return the phone
- Cancel the service, pay the $350 ETF (plus a possible pro-rate for the half-month of service?)
- Profit!
Are there any catches? Any pitfalls? ANY way that I can screw myself over by doing this? Also, at what point can I switch the SIM card from my current phone over to the new phone? Right away or do I have to wait til I cancel the service? Do I need to do anything on the Verizon website as well? I have bought a phone outright for my wife and just switched the SIM and it worked fine.

bast525 said:
Ok, I'm trying to weigh my options here. I have unlimited data and have no plan on ending that until they force me to. I have looked around and have found that a new HTC One still tends to go for around $500-550.
However, Verizon's ETF is $350, and now that the One can be had on contract for $50, it seems to me I could have the phone and only be out $400.
I actually ran this plan by a Best Buy employee as well to see if they could warn me of any pitfalls, and the guy said there would be no problem. But, I seem to find you guys know more than the guys at Best Buy or Verizon! So, here's what I had in mind...:
- Start a NEW LINE of service, not at all linked to my existing account, get whatever cheapest plan they have, and get the One for $50
- Wait out the 14 days "worry free" period, so that I am past the point where they would just want me to return the phone
- Cancel the service, pay the $350 ETF (plus a possible pro-rate for the half-month of service?)
- Profit!
Are there any catches? Any pitfalls? ANY way that I can screw myself over by doing this? Also, at what point can I switch the SIM card from my current phone over to the new phone? Right away or do I have to wait til I cancel the service? Do I need to do anything on the Verizon website as well? I have bought a phone outright for my wife and just switched the SIM and it worked fine.
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Other than losing tons of money I don't see an issue. Why not just pay the monthly payments and keep unlimited though?
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bast525 said:
Ok, I'm trying to weigh my options here. I have unlimited data and have no plan on ending that until they force me to. I have looked around and have found that a new HTC One still tends to go for around $500-550.
However, Verizon's ETF is $350, and now that the One can be had on contract for $50, it seems to me I could have the phone and only be out $400.
I actually ran this plan by a Best Buy employee as well to see if they could warn me of any pitfalls, and the guy said there would be no problem. But, I seem to find you guys know more than the guys at Best Buy or Verizon! So, here's what I had in mind...:
- Start a NEW LINE of service, not at all linked to my existing account, get whatever cheapest plan they have, and get the One for $50
- Wait out the 14 days "worry free" period, so that I am past the point where they would just want me to return the phone
- Cancel the service, pay the $350 ETF (plus a possible pro-rate for the half-month of service?)
- Profit!
Are there any catches? Any pitfalls? ANY way that I can screw myself over by doing this? Also, at what point can I switch the SIM card from my current phone over to the new phone? Right away or do I have to wait til I cancel the service? Do I need to do anything on the Verizon website as well? I have bought a phone outright for my wife and just switched the SIM and it worked fine.
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They will charge full price if phone if you don't return the phone. I use to work for Verizon in Columbia TN. This was the norm for that issue.
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cstrife999 said:
Other than losing tons of money I don't see an issue. Why not just pay the monthly payments and keep unlimited though?
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Not sure I understand? Where am I losing tons of money?
wcr84 said:
They will charge full price if phone if you don't return the phone. I use to work for Verizon in Columbia TN. This was the norm for that issue.
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Ok so as far as you know, what is the cut off where they can no longer ask me to return the phone, but will not charge me the full retail price of the phone either? After conversing with the Best Buy guy, he said this cut off is 14 days, after which they will not allow me to return the phone, and would only charge me the ETF, not the full price of the phone. Is he full of it?

wcr84 said:
They will charge full price if phone if you don't return the phone. I use to work for Verizon in Columbia TN. This was the norm for that issue.
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That's only if he does not pay the etf , if he pays the $350 they can't then charge for the phone .
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NOT TRUE. I just opened up a new account to get the phone for $149. It was my only choice since I have a concession account and Verizon would not sell me the phone unless they could attach it to a consumer account and I wasn't about to pay $699 at Best Buy. I cancelled the next day over the phone. The rep told me I was within my window to return the phone. I told him that I wanted to keep it and he said that was absolutely fine. Got my final bill about 2 weeks later and was charged $350 ETF, 1 day service $3.50, and $11.48 in taxes. They tried to charge me tax on the Activation fee which they eventually reversed since the account was cancelled within the first 3 days. In the end I paid a total of $565. The cheapest retail is at a VZW corporate store at $599. I was satisified.
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skorpyo31 said:
NOT TRUE. I just opened up a new account to get the phone for $149. It was my only choice since I have a concession account and Verizon would not sell me the phone unless they could attach it to a consumer account and I wasn't about to pay $699 at Best Buy. I cancelled the next day over the phone. The rep told me I was within my window to return the phone. I told him that I wanted to keep it and he said that was absolutely fine. Got my final bill about 2 weeks later and was charged $350 ETF, 1 day service $3.50, and $11.48 in taxes. They tried to charge me tax on the Activation fee which they eventually reversed since the account was cancelled within the first 3 days. In the end I paid a total of $565. The cheapest retail is at a VZW corporate store at $599. I was satisified.
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great info here, thank you. This is right in line with what I was expecting. Based on your experience, and the fact that the phone is now $50 on contract, I would say $465 is probably a good ballpark figure for what I should expect my total out of pocket cost to be for the phone.

wcr84 said:
They will charge full price if phone if you don't return the phone. I use to work for Verizon in Columbia TN. This was the norm for that issue.
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If that is what they told you, that is complete bull****. That's a bs line that INDIRECT stores tell their customers. I know this because I was a store manager for one. The indirect retailers get paid when you buy a phone. When that phone/line is canceled a DAY before 6 months in term, they get their money taken back from them. Any new line or upgrade needs to be active for a complete 6 months before they are free and clear of returns and chargebacks. You tell them to shove it and call their bluff...Corporate Verizon should have NO problem doing this, I've seen it done. Hell....I've done it, but do it at your own risk because I don't work for corporate and never have, so idk what kind of guidelines they have about these types of things...
EDIT*** I thought you said the store TOLD you that, I misread. You WORKED for Verizon? Was it corporate or indirect? I've done this before, and have helped friends do it as well and there were no issues....

bast525 said:
great info here, thank you. This is right in line with what I was expecting. Based on your experience, and the fact that the phone is now $50 on contract, I would say $465 is probably a good ballpark figure for what I should expect my total out of pocket cost to be for the phone.
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Sounds right. I picked mine up from the same store that refused to sell the phone to me. I placed the order online and chose in store pickup. Phone was ready within an hour..

skorpyo31 said:
Sounds right. I picked mine up from the same store that refused to sell the phone to me. I placed the order online and chose in store pickup. Phone was ready within an hour..
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Pay full retail or do the 12 monthly payments split on your bill.

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Pay full retail or do the 12 monthly payments split on your bill.
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Orrr.... Pay less. By doing it his way?
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Ok, to play devil's advocate here.
1. Don't do it at an indirect. Best buy may be ok because they're large, and probably wouldn't notice/care enough to come after you with a chargeback. At my indirect you sign a separate contract saying if you cancel within 6 months, we will bill you full retail on the phone or you must return it to us.
2. If you cancel within the first 14 days, YES, corporate can bill your account full retail on the phone. Most carriers have a "gaming" department that handles cases like these.
(Source: I used to work in a gaming dept. Charged a guy full retail on 10 blackberry bolds )
3. You'll have the cost at the POS, a $35 activation fee, half a month of service, and the ETF. Just be aware of all of these.
4. When you call in to cancel DO NOT say it was lost/stolen. Don't want your ESN getting flagged

How to get a Note 5 for ATT without contract??

ATT has really screwed around with their plans and phone upgrades.
They want to boost the "access" charge on the share plans and after you add up the price for the phone charge and the upcharge it's closing in on $975 to get the 64GB phone.
Anyway to do any better than this?

les_garten said:
ATT has really screwed around with their plans and phone upgrades.
They want to boost the "access" charge on the share plans and after you add up the price for the phone charge and the upcharge it's closing in on $975 to get the 64GB phone.
Anyway to do any better than this?
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Yes.. here : https://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-note-5-att

norbarb said:
Yes.. here : https://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-note-5-att
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I'm leery of Swappa.
What happens when the phone gets banned by ATT for the orig buyer not fullfilling the contract or reporting it stolen?

les_garten said:
I'm leery of Swappa.
What happens when the phone gets banned by ATT for the orig buyer not fullfilling the contract or reporting it stolen?
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He can't report stolen because you have proof of purchase from PayPal. Swappa is checking if phone is under contract or not. If it is under contract you not allowed to post for sale. Read this : https://swappa.com/faq
I personally buying and selling on swappa and never had problems.

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He can't report stolen because you have proof of purchase from PayPal. Swappa is checking if phone is under contract or not. If it is under contract you not allowed to post for sale. Read this : https://swappa.com/faq
I personally buying and selling on swappa and never had problems.
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I've sold on Swappa but never bought there. Seems like you can still get nailed later

les_garten said:
I've sold on Swappa but never bought there. Seems like you can still get nailed later
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If you scared go to AT&T and pay full price.
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norbarb said:
If you scared go to AT&T and pay full price.
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I would, but doing that changes my plan radically because of the upgrade.

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I've sold on Swappa but never bought there. Seems like you can still get nailed later
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I wouldn't worry too much on AT&T. They aren't like T-Mobile. If someone stops paying off a phone on AT&T, they don't blacklist the phone. Instead they ding the persons credit and go after them that way. T-Mobile does it different and will blacklist the phone.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I wouldn't worry too much on AT&T. They aren't like T-Mobile. If someone stops paying off a phone on AT&T, they don't blacklist the phone. Instead they ding the persons credit and go after them that way. T-Mobile does it different and will blacklist the phone.
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Interesting, didn't know that. I thought they all blacklisted them.

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Interesting, didn't know that. I thought they all blacklisted them.
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That is just what I've always been told. But definitely don't take it as gospel as I've never experienced being blacklisted myself.

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Interesting, didn't know that. I thought they all blacklisted them.
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BTW.. IF you get phone and go at&t store with PayPal receipt and register phone on your account how someone who you get phone from can blacklisted? You legally purchased phone and now is register on your account. Other person have no access to it anymore as he is not owner.

If you want to pay full price, I would say go for t mobile note 5, cheaper and much better as bootloader unlocked, you have chance of getting root or flash rom for faster update.
If you still want at&t note 5, keep eye on bestbuy deals for samsung phones on at&t next plan, on this plan you have to pay for phone in installments over period you decide. In a similar deal at time of launch of note 5, I got $200 for trading in a smartphone (which I purchased on ebay for $30), $45 for getting the phone on at&t next and wireless charger as promo deal. I went for 30% downpayment ($222) + tax on full price ($59.2) and paid with gift cards I got and remaining 36.2 with my credit card. The rest $518, I am paying in installments over 28 months (Which I can pay anytime and get my device unlocked). Basically I got phone for $554, which was sweet deal for me. You will still have to pay $15 activation fee, which is $45 (I guess) for on contract phone.

Ruturaj001 said:
If you want to pay full price, I would say go for t mobile note 5, cheaper and much better as bootloader unlocked, you have chance of getting root or flash rom for faster update.
If you still want at&t note 5, keep eye on bestbuy deals for samsung phones on at&t next plan, on this plan you have to pay for phone in installments over period you decide. In a similar deal at time of launch of note 5, I got $200 for trading in a smartphone (which I purchased on ebay for $30), $45 for getting the phone on at&t next and wireless charger as promo deal. I went for 30% downpayment ($222) + tax on full price ($59.2) and paid with gift cards I got and remaining 36.2 with my credit card. The rest $518, I am paying in installments over 28 months (Which I can pay anytime and get my device unlocked). Basically I got phone for $554, which was sweet deal for me. You will still have to pay $15 activation fee, which is $45 (I guess) for on contract phone.
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You got phone for $30(old phone from ebay)+$222 (down payment)+$518 (for 28 months) = $770. Unless I got my math wrong...
I got my phone from swappa for $540, phone was never activated. Brand new.
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norbarb said:
BTW.. IF you get phone and go at&t store with PayPal receipt and register phone on your account how someone who you get phone from can blacklisted? You legally purchased phone and now is register on your account. Other person have no access to it anymore as he is not owner.
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I don't think you understand what I am talking about. Lots of people have had this problem. If the contract is not paid off, the person who sold the phone did not own it, get it? AT&T owns it till it is paid off.

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If you want to pay full price, I would say go for t mobile note 5, cheaper and much better as bootloader unlocked, you have chance of getting root or flash rom for faster update.
If you still want at&t note 5, keep eye on bestbuy deals for samsung phones on at&t next plan, on this plan you have to pay for phone in installments over period you decide. In a similar deal at time of launch of note 5, I got $200 for trading in a smartphone (which I purchased on ebay for $30), $45 for getting the phone on at&t next and wireless charger as promo deal. I went for 30% downpayment ($222) + tax on full price ($59.2) and paid with gift cards I got and remaining 36.2 with my credit card. The rest $518, I am paying in installments over 28 months (Which I can pay anytime and get my device unlocked). Basically I got phone for $554, which was sweet deal for me. You will still have to pay $15 activation fee, which is $45 (I guess) for on contract phone.
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I don't want to do any type of upgrade on my account. I went to upgrade my phones with ATT after fulfilling my last contract and I am getting all kinds of BS about upping the price of my current share plan. That's what started this is their "new" policies about not really providing subsidized phones anymore.

norbarb said:
You got phone for $30(old phone from ebay)+$222 (down payment)+$518 (for 28 months) = $770. Unless I got my math wrong...
I got my phone from swappa for $540, phone was never activated. Brand new.
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You got it wrong
I paid $30 for phone from ebay + $222 down payment + $59.2 tax + $518 for 28 months - $200 gift card for trade in - $45 giftcard for getting phone on at&t next - Wireless charger ( which I think is worth $30) = $554.2
I used gift card to pay for down payment and tax
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I don't want to do any type of upgrade on my account. I went to upgrade my phones with ATT after fulfilling my last contract and I am getting all kinds of BS about upping the price of my current share plan. That's what started this is their "new" policies about not really providing subsidized phones anymore.
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At&t next is different than getting phone on contract. Right now my phone is not on 2 year contract, I am paying $15 for line (and $80 for share data plan), if I have got it on contract that would have raised that to $40.
If you are on very old type of plan, those you can not get now then you shouldn't go with at&t next.

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At&t nest is different than getting phone on contract. Right now my phone is not on 2 year contract, I am paying $15 for line (and $80 for share data plan), if I have got it on contract that would have raised that to $40.
If you are on very old type of plan, those you can not get now then you shouldn't go with at&t next.
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I think I am on the same plan as you but I have 3 phones on it at $15 per. I read the fine print and if I upgrade, they raise that to $40. I have 10GB shared data plan.
For my Note 3 I bought a T-mobile and a $10 plan and swapped out SIM card. Rooted, etc, etc
Trying to figure out how to go now as cheap as possible without getting a Blacklisted phone. and screwing up my Plan.

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I don't think you understand what I am talking about. Lots of people have had this problem. If the contract is not paid off, the person who sold the phone did not own it, get it? AT&T owns it till it is paid off.
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No. If you paid in full even from third party you own it. At&t is charging person who you purchased phone full price or remaining of balance on phone on next bill. I had exactly this situation. I purchase phone and ask at&t for unlocking sim card code. Phone was not paid in full and they did not want me to send it. Then I get my pay pal receipt and go to at&t store, present them that I purchase this phone from third party. They switch phone to my account and told me they will charge account that phone was buy on for remaining balance. I get my unlocking code two days later. They told me that phone is on my account and is paid in full according to my account.

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No. If you paid in full even from third party you own it. At&t is charging person who you purchased phone full price or remaining of balance on phone on next bill. I had exactly this situation. I purchase phone and ask at&t for unlocking sim card code. Phone was not paid in full and they did not want me to send it. Then I get my pay pal receipt and go to at&t store, present them that I purchase this phone from third party. They switch phone to my account and told me they will charge account that phone was buy on for remaining balance. I get my unlocking code two days later. They told me that phone is on my account and is paid in full according to my account.
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Glad it worked out for you. Others have had different experiences, thus my questions.
Some people don't complete contract, report phone stolen, sell it, , IMEI/ESN is blacklisted.

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Glad it worked out for you. Others have had different experiences, thus my questions.
Some people don't complete contract, report phone stolen, sell it, , IMEI/ESN is blacklisted.
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Explain to me how they can report stolen if you have prof of purchase and real name and address from who did you get phone ?
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Buying the Note 10+

So I want to get the Note 10+ 256 GB AT&T version however I am not happy with my current purchase options. I want to buy the phone outright without a plan or commitment. I 100% plan on using the phone personally and not resell it.
However I'm not sure where I can buy it like that. I want it to be the AT&T version so WIFI calling still works.
AT&T wants me to make a 30 month commitment or finance the phone. It is a 0% finance plan but I simply want to buy the phone outright and don't want them running my credit. They want $1099.99 for it
Best Buy requires me to activate a new line or signup new to AT&T which I'm already a customer of to get it for $1,049.99, otherwise it is $1,149.99. Where can I get the phone and not have to pay more because I don't want to sign up for a plan or pay $100 more?

I think you can order direct from Samsung for $1100, or wait for discount in few months. You can buy unlocked and load ATT firmware later or buy with ATT firmware

Also you should be able to buy it on the 24/30 month plan and pay it off as soon as you can. Goes the same if you sign up on best buy.
Not sure how ATT handles the monthly plans but with Verizon you can buy the phone in the monthly and pay the full amount on the next months bill or before as well.
But this will only work if there are no monthly discounts that they sign up if the phone will be the same price if you pay full or monthly then no issues there. It only becomes hard if they add a discount if paid monthly.
That's if you want the ATT but like the above guy mentioned that's another option you have as well.
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Actually you can buy it and pay full amount at the att store. I have done it.
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jerrycoffman45 said:
Actually you can buy it and pay full amount at the att store. I have done it.
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I called numerous stores and they won't allow me to. It's a jerk move. If you know of how to please let me know. They insist I finance it

sheriffa said:
I called numerous stores and they won't allow me to. It's a jerk move. If you know of how to please let me know. They insist I finance it
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i just went into a store and told them i wanted to buy a phone full price and they did it this was a couple of years ago so they might have changed since then
edit just called my local store and the said yes i could

Just order it from Samsung.com. They have the carrier branded phones on the website, and it allows you to get it in blue if you so desire.

It is really strange that, wanting to pay in full for a device, att does not allow it, rare indeed, try in another location

Oh, if WiFi calling and VoLTE is important to you, make sure you buy the ATT version, not the unlocked version. There's a few threads here where people bought the unlocked version, flashed the ATT firmware, and WiFi calling still would not work. That was an old workaround, but apparently ATT's system now checks the phones IMEI, and it won't allow WiFi Calling to activate.
So you can still buy from samsung.com and pay in full, but make sure you get the ATT version, not the unlocked.

winol said:
It is really strange that, wanting to pay in full for a device, att does not allow it, rare indeed, try in another location
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I called 4 different locations AT&T stores and a couple Best Buys. They all said no

sheriffa said:
I called 4 different locations AT&T stores and a couple Best Buys. They all said no
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Let me correct myself. Best Buy adds $100 for a total of $1,149,99 if you buy it out right. Not cool

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Let me correct myself. Best Buy adds $100 for a total of $1,149,99 if you buy it out right. Not cool
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https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-note10/buy/

Couldn't you just get the phone on a payment plan, pay the first month as normal and then make a full payment on the second month? I'm with TMobile and they let you make extra payments to bring down you eip (equipment installment plan) balance. Just pay it off, I have done this on prior phones.

rlee008 said:
Couldn't you just get the phone on a payment plan, pay the first month as normal and then make a full payment on the second month? I'm with TMobile and they let you make extra payments to bring down you eip (equipment installment plan) balance. Just pay it off, I have done this on prior phones.
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You can but I simply don't want to have to get on a payment plan. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops or have them run my credit to get on a payment plan.
I simply want to buy the phone. My Note 8 still works well. Maybe I'll wait till the Note 11+ out of principle. ?

If you are already an ATT customer do not call the store. Go in person (preferably to a "corporate" store that handles small business accounts they are more focused on customer retention).
You should be able to use your cash purchase and continued patronage to get them to see the wisdom of providing you what you need.
Don't be afraid to mention that if they won't satisfy you, you'll l need to look in no other options. Especially useful if you happen to be in or near the renewal time frames.

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You can but I simply don't want to have to get on a payment plan. I shouldn't have to jump through hoops or have them run my credit to get on a payment plan.
I simply want to buy the phone. My Note 8 still works well. Maybe I'll wait till the Note 11+ out of principle.
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Seriously, why not buy it from samsung.com?

Why not do the financing and pay it off the following month? It's the same as if you were to pay it off all at once. Most stores do that because they would rather sell the phones to someone who is signing up for service or renewing their service plans with them. They make money off the service not equipment. They feel if they sell it out right then your probably gonna jump ship. I'm not saying that's what your gonna do.