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New white ET4G to come with wolfson DAC?

Anyone know if this is true? Read it on another forum. I believe the black ET4G comes with a yamaha DAC which is locked from what I've gathered. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I didn't even knowa white one wad coming out. do you have any links?
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Nah, just hearsay on forums.

footfingmaster said:
Anyone know if this is true? Read it on another forum. I believe the black ET4G comes with a yamaha DAC which is locked from what I've gathered. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
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if thats the case, i would like it unlocked ^^

kc_exactly said:
I didn't even knowa white one wad coming out. do you have any links?
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1/8/11 according to this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373771&highlight=white
The date gels since Sprint has launched phones on a Sunday in the past. I hope it holds true as its three days after my birthday, so it'd make a nice few day late gift.
That thread is nothing official but it would seem silly for Spint to be the only carrier with the GSII and not have the white model. Plus it seems the white Evo sold well though I have ZERO facts or figures to back that up. Just know I see quite a few of them out in the wild.

I'm curious about how popular white is. I suspect white isurged in popularity with Apple's problem with the white iPhone 4 issue. I think subconsciencly this triggered people to want white phones. I see a lot more of them now.
Baaaabaaaaa, we are all just sheep.

I seriously doubt they'll make any serious hardware changes like that for the white ET.

KCs2k said:
1/8/11 according to this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373771&highlight=white
The date gels since Sprint has launched phones on a Sunday in the past. I hope it holds true as its three days after my birthday, so it'd make a nice few day late gift.
That thread is nothing official but it would seem silly for Spint to be the only carrier with the GSII and not have the white model. Plus it seems the white Evo sold well though I have ZERO facts or figures to back that up. Just know I see quite a few of them out in the wild.
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I work at a preferred retailer, and even though I haven't heard anything about it, it makes total sense. Our prices are set to end 1/7, same with mail in rebates. It almost ALWAYS seems that a new phone launches when the pricing planogram resets. I hope so, I like the white. :-D

datajosh said:
I seriously doubt they'll make any serious hardware changes like that for the white ET.
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I don't see why it wouldn't. The OG Epic had it (loved using Voodoo sound) and with HTC pushing Beats Audio, they may want to improve audio even though they wouldn't market it.
Mandado from my E4GT

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I work at a preferred retailer, and even though I haven't heard anything about it, it makes total sense. Our prices are set to end 1/7, same with mail in rebates. It almost ALWAYS seems that a new phone launches when the pricing planogram resets. I hope so, I like the white. :-D
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Well that is some pretty good evidence to help support the date. I hope it holds true and by that point a solid build of CM7 is done and ready for the GSIIE4GT. I can't imagine a world without a more or less "vanilla" AOSP version of Android.
Trying to get this thread back on topic... I'm no rom developer but wouldn't a change in chipset require two different roms? Seems silly for a manufacture to have to support what is essentially two different devices for what on the surface seems like nothing more than a color change. Thus this seems unlikely.

Ridiculous crap screen

I already have a CDMA Verizon nexus.
I order a GSM nexus and got it yesterday.
The difference between the two screens is so ridiculously noticeable I want to smash the phone
The original verizon one is vibrant and bright.
The new gsm one is dull looking. it flickers slightly when I do solid color tests. whites look dull.
Absolute fricken BULL ****.
Go eat **** google

Dont feed the troll my little [put in any word].
Maybe you just got a bad one?
Thought about it?

I've had both and never noticed a difference between the two. Maybe something is wrong with your new one.

Its a common thing as ive read in other posts but its googles fault for allowing it to happen.

You know Google doesn't manufacture the phones, right?

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joking.. sorry :silly:

johnan2112 said:
You know Google doesn't manufacture the phones, right?
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its their responsibility to not let samsung F UP

Pitnefor said:
its their responsibility to not let samsung F UP
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because they have the time/resources to QC check every single phone?

Pitnefor said:
its their responsibility to not let samsung F UP
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Then go back to using the worthless CDMA verizon phone...can't believe you are serious.

It is actually the manufacturing facility's quality control that has failed. Google is just the point of sale. You don't get mad at Best Buy and call them F Ups if a PlayStation bought there is a lemon, why should this be different because it is Google?
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is this supposed to be an AMOLED vs. LCD-rage-thread, or did the OP just receive a device with crappy screen and is now blaming google for it?
both options are so embarrassing I'd really like OP to smash the Nexus... in his face.

knight4led said:
It is actually the manufacturing facility's quality control that has failed. Google is just the point of sale. You don't get mad at Best Buy and call them F Ups if a PlayStation bought there is a lemon, why should this be different because it is Google?
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He a troll, anybody with half a brain would just ask for a replacement if it was that bad/defective. I got a lemon evo 3d,, posting a thread bashing the phone isn't gonna fix it, Radio Shack replaced it immediatly. In before lock!

I received a terrible screen from Verizon for my first phone. I was dull, and had weird banding and a dead pixel... They did t believe me until I made them compare mine to a display model. The only issue I had getting a new one was that I had accidentally let the play store re download titanium backup. They then tried to say I was rooted, root checker failed, then they tried to aay the app broek my screen.....
Tl;Dr just get a replacement and stop whining.
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knight4led said:
It is actually the manufacturing facility's quality control that has failed. Google is just the point of sale. You don't get mad at Best Buy and call them F Ups if a PlayStation bought there is a lemon, why should this be different because it is Google?
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ARE YOU FING SERIOUS?
this issue is extremely prevalent. Just go look at other threads on the issue.
point of sale?!? It's their Nexus phone. GOOGLES PHONE. They have a responsibility, THEY ARE THE QUALITY FILTER TO THE END USER
same as CISCO FOOD filters out horrible food products. What happens if Cisco lets a shipment of bad tomato's in. Customers supposed to blame the farmers?? no they blame the POINT OF SALE CISCO

Hannes The Hun said:
is this supposed to be an AMOLED vs. LCD-rage-thread, or did the OP just receive a device with crappy screen and is now blaming google for it?
both options are so embarrassing I'd really like OP to smash the Nexus... in his face.
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NO its about a huge inconsistency in screen quality from nexus to nexus, amoled to amoled.
THE SAD THING IS, most people WOULD NEVER KNOW, because you cant tell how ****y your screen is until you compare it to a non ****y one

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ARE YOU FING SERIOUS?
this issue is extremely prevalent. Just go look at other threads on the issue.
point of sale?!? It's their Nexus phone. GOOGLES PHONE. They have a responsibility, THEY ARE THE QUALITY FILTER TO THE END USER
same as CISCO FOOD filters out horrible food products. What happens if Cisco lets a shipment of bad tomato's in. Customers supposed to blame the farmers?? no they blame the POINT OF SALE CISCO
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i'm going to make this simple for you since you clearly have no understanding of how this all works.
google hired samsung to manufacture the phone.
samsung makes phone and QC checks their batches.
samsung then packages and sends phones to google for sale
google takes ALREADY PACKAGED PHONES IN THE BOX and sells them
do you honestly believe google is going to open up sealed boxes and check every phone? if you do, you are completely insane and need to be checked in somewhere.
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THE SAD THING IS, nearly all people UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF HOW PHONES GET TO CONSUMERS, UNLIKE ME
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fixed for you.

To the OP:
Please tell me you've never, in the history of your life, purchased a product, brought it home only to open the package to find its defective. Tell me you never had to return a product to get a replacement, or simply return a product because you weren't happy with it??
If you haven't - then you have horseshoes where the sun doesn't shine... Products aren't HANDMADE anymore... quality control nowadays goes as far as checking 2 or 3 phones out of hundreds on a production line.
Come on man, be serious.

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Then go back to using the worthless CDMA verizon phone...can't believe you are serious.
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Worthless?
Can the GSM good ol' boys club please be act a little more mature?
@OP: Get it replaced. Typing a bunch of expletives isn't going to fix your screen.

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same as CISCO FOOD filters out horrible food products. What happens if Cisco lets a shipment of bad tomato's in. Customers supposed to blame the farmers?? no they blame the POINT OF SALE CISCO
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Normal people wouldn't buy bad tomatoes....
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adrynalyne said:
@OP: Get it replaced. Typing a bunch of expletives isn't going to fix your screen.
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Seriously... why so much rage? If its actually defective, have it replaced.

Is my T-Mobile Note 2 refurbished? Please let me know what you think. Thank you.

I received my Note 2 a few days ago. I found no screen defects, although my volume button is loose (and was confirmed normal as per other XDA member's feedback). I have a tiny black marker above the earpiece on the bezel (also confirmed by another fellow XDA member), and I know it sounds like I have OCD, but $700 dollars is not little. Also, I should mention, I purchased my device without contract from T-Mobile on their website, and the retail box (pristine clean condition) came in a bubble wrapped bag instead of an actual box I was expecting. Lastly, while un-boxing, I noticed I didn't find any plastic clear tape to remove on the sides of the bezel like I did in the previous Note (International version). My Note 2 only came with the T-Mobile Logo on front and Plastic on the back cover. Today, I tried registering the product on Samsung's website, and came across the message that my phone's Manufacture Date is 11/30/1993.
Is whatever I described above something to be concerned about? Or am I just being too anal. What about the warranty? Is my device refurbished? Should I have purchased at a retail store instead? My phone apparently came from Kentucky (Origin on UPS Scan shows Louisville, Kentucky) with a pre-paid return label to Forth Worth, Texas.

Relax..... That's not a refurbished device. You can check under the battery and it will be listed as a refurb.
I had 3 Note 2's with Sprint before moving here. They all came the same way. There's no tape on the sides of the phone. Only the screen and and back cover are protected by plastic.
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winlinmac001 said:
I received my Note 2 a few days ago. I found no screen defects, although my volume button is loose (and was confirmed normal as per other XDA member's feedback). I have a tiny black marker above the earpiece on the bezel (also confirmed by another fellow XDA member), and I know it sounds like I have OCD, but $700 dollars is not little. Also, I should mention, I purchased my device without contract from T-Mobile on their website, and the retail box (pristine clean condition) came in a bubble wrapped bag instead of an actual box I was expecting. Lastly, while un-boxing, I noticed I didn't find any plastic clear tape to remove on the sides of the bezel like I did in the previous Note (International version). My Note 2 only came with the T-Mobile Logo on front and Plastic on the back cover. Today, I tried registering the product on Samsung's website, and came across the message that my phone's Manufacture Date is 11/30/1993.
Is whatever I described above something to be concerned about? Or am I just being too anal. What about the warranty? Is my device refurbished? Should I have purchased at a retail store instead? My phone apparently came from Kentucky (Origin on UPS Scan shows Louisville, Kentucky) with a pre-paid return label to Forth Worth, Texas.
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I have purchased 2 notes from tmobile and they have both come in a padded mailer vs. an actual box. The inside boxes were sealed though, I had to slice through seals to open the box. I recall on the international version the back plastic actually wraps around a little to cover the sides, I think it was the same with the tmobile version as well. You can't rule it out entirely but it seems unlikely you got a refurb, in my opinion.

Thanks for the replies :good:, what about the power / volume button, little black mark, and most importantly, the manufacture date. Have any of you tried registering your devices yet? Please let me know. Thanks again.

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Thanks for the replies :good:, what about the power / volume button, little black mark, and most importantly, the manufacture date. Have any of you tried registering your devices yet? Please let me know. Thanks again.
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Do you even have to ask? Consider the source, the world we live in for a moment. The fact is some devices are sold "New" even if they technically need be listed as refurb. If you feel so confused, instead of asking internet strangers about your own device, I'd return it online and buy one in store if it makes you feel any better. But at the end of the day it's just a cell phone
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I'm not feeling confused; its really just the manufacturer date I am more concerned about. It might be just a cell phone to you, but $700 dollars invested into a machine like this is not little. The world we live in now requires most of us to think twice before we buy. Coming to the Note 2, Every Note 2 sold has minute issues like I stated in my first post. I might be just being OCD, lol. Also, It's a Samsung thing--QC at its finest.
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Do you even have to ask? Consider the source, the world we live in for a moment. The fact is some devices are sold "New" even if they technically need be listed as refurb. If you feel so confused, instead of asking internet strangers about your own device, I'd return it online and buy one in store if it makes you feel any better. But at the end of the day it's just a cell phone
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I'm not feeling confused; its really just the manufacturer date I am more concerned about. It might be just a cell phone to you, but $700 dollars invested into a machine like this is not little. The world we live in now requires most of us to think twice before we buy. Coming to the Note 2, Every Note 2 sold has minute issues like I stated in my first post. I might be just being OCD, lol. Also, It's a Samsung thing--QC at its finest.
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Hey I'm I'm your side I'm just saying more action less debate about your money...if I purchase something online and I have doubts I don't need to consult with strangers on what to do. As far as the device heck yeah return it and buy in store if it tickles your fancy, our see a doctor about your ocd. In regards to the manufacturer date..this is not the first nor last gadget to have a funky date some are more accurate others are internal...not a big deal.....this technology clearly didn't even exist back then, uncommon sense tells you it's just a Samsung filler, just a date they used. Even if the date was this year..who cares lol enjoy your phone
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Watched a couple of unboxing videos on the T-Mobile version, there was plastic tape on the sides as well. I'm just guessing it varies by batch. Lol.
Anyway, too much plastic. I think thats the biggest flop of Samsung; Plastic
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I have purchased 2 notes from tmobile and they have both come in a padded mailer vs. an actual box. The inside boxes were sealed though, I had to slice through seals to open the box. I recall on the international version the back plastic actually wraps around a little to cover the sides, I think it was the same with the tmobile version as well. You can't rule it out entirely but it seems unlikely you got a refurb, in my opinion.
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I'll just contact Samsung, and confirm some details. It would be silly to return without knowing that everything described is normal on Samsung's part, lol.
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Hey I'm I'm your side I'm just saying more action less debate about your money...if I purchase something online and I have doubts I don't need to consult with strangers on what to do. As far as the device heck yeah return it and buy in store if it tickles your fancy, our see a doctor about your ocd. In regards to the manufacturer date..this is not the first nor last gadget to have a funky date some are more accurate others are internal...not a big deal.....this technology clearly didn't even exist back then, uncommon sense tells you it's just a Samsung filler, just a date they used. Even if the date was this year..who cares lol enjoy your phone
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My phone was manufactured last month, it was asking for IMEI not serial

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My phone was manufactured last month, it was asking for IMEI not serial
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How you could entertain the idea that the phone was manufactured on 11/30/1993 in beyond me.

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How you could entertain the idea that the phone was manufactured on 11/30/1993 in beyond me.
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:victory: I don't think OP actually thought the device was manu in 93 xD Probably just concerned it doesnt say 2011 or 12 like it should . lol
OP MADE IN CHINA is all you have to see to answer your questions about loose this or that . This isn't the first thread I've seen about loose buttons on this device. . China makes junk , period. We're kinda lucky as many of these devices function flawlessly from the factory. My and it apears few other radios were bad too I had to get a replacement . Fact is lot of these devices are OK. But chinese quality control just isnt on par with even korea or the phillipines.

Thanks AFAIK, everyone's buttons on the Note 2 are loose, even those Made in Korea (as per XDA Note 2 General Forum Members). I've had the Made in Korea Note and Galaxy S2 before and they both sucked in quality control and were Made in Korea. Its not country of manufacture, its Samsung and their best friend, Plastic. Why not just use rubber? Lol...
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:victory: I don't think OP actually thought the device was manu in 93 xD Probably just concerned it doesnt say 2011 or 12 like it should . lol
OP MADE IN CHINA is all you have to see to answer your questions about loose this or that . This isn't the first thread I've seen about loose buttons on this device. . China makes junk , period. We're kinda lucky as many of these devices function flawlessly from the factory. My and it apears few other radios were bad too I had to get a replacement . Fact is lot of these devices are OK. But chinese quality control just isnt on par with even korea or the phillipines.
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Thanks AFAIK, everyone's buttons on the Note 2 are loose, even those Made in Korea (as per XDA Note 2 General Forum Members). I've had the Made in Korea Note and Galaxy S2 before and they both sucked in quality control and were Made in Korea. Its not country of manufacture, its Samsung and their best friend, Plastic. Why not just use rubber? Lol...
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mine arnt . thats the only thing on this phone that is ok . I guess your right on the samsung. I've predominantly used HTC throughout my smartphone experience. And their build quility is top notch . maybe Ill trade this thing for a one x or something. I mean the device itself is cool but .
Loose buttons , gps not working very well on more than a couple devices , terrible radios the fragililty of the device itself . I mean I cant tell you how many times Id dropped the MT4GS and I never had any problem with it.

1 think you a lemon ;P
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I've noticed quality issues on the Note 2, notably the bezel. The bezel is a throwback to the GS2 with the cheap electroplated plastic. Too easy to scratch, and out of the 3 or 4 I have had, most of them suffered from some sort of manufacturing defect. The GS3s bezel is actually constructed much beter, and I was hoping it would be the same. Instead it's identical to the Note 1 or the GS2.

I wonder how Samsung is able to sell something like this of very poor build quality. It's very shocking and insulting.

Very poor build quality? I have to disagree with you on that. They are built different, lots of plastic that's all. As far as I know anyway. My 3rd Galaxy phone model, and 4th total. I've never had an issue with any of them. However, for $700 I'd expect perfection regardless of where it's made. If you aren't happy definitely contact them.
G●Note~2 {Jedi X5}

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I wonder how Samsung is able to sell something like this of very poor build quality. It's very shocking and insulting.
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What are you even talking about??

I've gone through a few Note 2s now (long story), but all of them arrived in a very thin bubblewrap bag, and had the back plastic wrap on loose/wrinkled/something. I'm not sure why that happens, but they were all new and unused. One had a power button that didn't work right, the other had a deep nick on the side (ironically, near the power button) - and that was painted so it was definitely a defect, and then another one had a bad speaker.
The 4th still doesn't sound quite as good as I recall the 1st sounding, but everything otherwise is great and fine so I'm sticking with that one.
Also, I think the front edge of the ring that goes around the sides of the phone has paint that chips, possibly? I think those with the white Note 2s could provide more info about that, because I also see tiny black specs there sometimes, but I can't tell if it's dirt/dust or just the paint, or what? It's really hard to tell since the grey ones are painted really dark hehe.
Awesome phones though!
Also noting: All of these were made in China, and one says rev 1.1 on the box and had a slightly clickier home button (made on 12/3 I think?) but all were virtually identical otherwise. They're really nice phones, just.. not HTC or Apple quality hardware-wise I guess.

[Q] I'm about to upgrade from...

Morotola Milestone 2... I'm looking to buy Samsung Captative Glide i927, the sub forum is a lot more active and there are plenty of diferent roms to choose from.
Is it a worthy upgrade from a MM2?
Thank you.

Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.

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Depending on your radio requirements, you should consider the Relay 4G. Its only downside over the Glide is its 4G isn't compatible with AT&T (but it's fully quad-band EDGE/UMTS), and the community just took off like a rocket this month.
I'll ride my Glide until it can't run the newest Android comfortably anymore, but if I was buying now, without a doubt in my mind, I'd get an unlocked Relay.
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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide? Because this one I can get it in Argentina, for about 450-475 USD, brand new in box, unlocked.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
Still my account is not activated, I have to wait 5 min even to edit.
Edit2: neverming, I've just read the forum help.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?

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I'm from Argentina, I will look up what bands the carrier use here. Thank you, Relay 4G seems a strong candidate in my book, too bad I can't get it here via normal means, that is something I have to deal with down here, the choices are really non existant, that is why I'm also looking for someone or some business to get me one from USA.
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
Can I ask you some questions about your Glide?
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Protip: never ask to ask, just ask. No one thinks it's rude, and even if the person doesn't get back to you, others may chime in.
Edit1: the Relay 4G is a beast of a phone (dualcorewise), but dang it! the OLED is a pentile matrix
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
Edit3: What is you opinion/feeling on the i927 Forums and development of ROMS? Still ongoing? Stuck? Dying?
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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Speaking of LTE... if that's what you need, look at the Stratosphere II. Yes, it's VZW which is CDMA, but it's an international device meaning it also has a GSM radio, and supports all common LTE bands instead of just whatever VZW uses.
That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.

well...
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If your carrier doesn't even offer HSPA+ specifically (I don't know the situation in your country), I wouldn't even bother. Both Glide and Relay will operate 3G in all four bands used in the US, and neither are LTE capable. If one won't work, neither will the other.
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I think they do not even do HSPA+, but even so, I'm not in need of H+ or LTE/4G speeds, my plan only has 512mb/month and I'm barely using half of it, I do not travel a lot, I do comute a lot, and the rest of the time I have WiFi access (I work at IT), so there is that. I'm happy with the 4mb/1mb I get with the 3G, I mostly need it to check mails, be online, Skype, access some servers via RDP and reddit.
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As for procurement: you may find someone on eBay US that will ship internationally. They may request some payment method other than Paypal (due to Paypal/eBay's reputation of siding with the buyer even when said buyer is very obviously and blatantly in the wrong). It's up to you whether the hassle (+exchange rate) is worth it.
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Seeing that the Motorola Photon Q LTE has the SIM card soldered, I will try to see about the MM4. But yeah, I have to see if the hassle, and the waiting times are worth it to me, I had the MM2 for 13 months now, before that I have the Samsung Galaxy Spica (really really low end phone) but made me fell in love with Android.
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Will do, thank you.
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Glide is also pentile, and a very obvious pentile at that (red has a plainly visible pattern). Looking at the specs, it's very likely the Relay and Glide have the exact same screen.
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Crap, in the MM2 I dont even see the pixels (it is a 3.7" screen with 852*480). I tried to google some screen reviews of the Glide but found nothing, that bad is it? I wish I could see it before buying it...
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It's been aggravatingly slow since forever, and has cooled a bit but she's not dead yet. Relay is definitely more active right now. The fact that the Glide's SoC is rather exotic (the Tegra 2 specifically is freakin' WEIRD) and a pain to develop for hasn't helped any. That said, what we have right now is still pretty recent and is above and beyond DD quality (where the Relay ROMs have just gotten off the ground and still have some glaring issues).
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As long there are some cool CM ROMs I'm up for it. The fact is that with my MM2 there are only 4, CM7.1 is totally dead, there is MS2GINGER (which I rather not) and CM10/10.1 which are painfully slow on my device. That is why I recon it is time to change, also I bought it used, so it was an old model when I bought it. I'm poor, and the prices are insane.
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That said, you'd be taking a serious gamble in the ROM dev department -- as of this moment we know NOTHING about the bootloader (it's not even rooted yet) leave alone what nasty surprises there could be waiting for us once we can flash it. And VZW has been by far the worst about bootloaders.
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I think I will keep researching and trying to cool off myself, I was about to pull the trigger on the Glide, but the pentile and 4row keyboard got me thinking, I has stuff that I like/want (1gb RAM, dual core, slide Keyboard) and stuff that I dont, pentile matrix and 4row keyboard. (mm2 also has 4 row keyboard, but I want an upgrade on everything if I'm putting a lotta money on it).
Would you recommend the Glide if the year were 2011/2?
Bottom line, I cant decide yet it seems. Thank you.
edit1: I'm about to pull the trigger on the Glide (it is theRogers version, so that makes it an i927R, that $2900[pesos] are about 467 USD official price or about 350usd black market us dollar price [black market dollar is abut 67% more than official one, the country is in the ****, dont be mistaken, is more than a half month salary of mine.), I've contacted the seller, and awaiting his/her reply.
Besides the pentile screen, on how bad could it be, how flat are the keys? are they totally flat? the action is clicky, springy or rubbery?
Thx again.

xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.

santimaster2000 said:
xtacb4, I'm from Argentina, and I have a Glide since the early days on 2012, if you want, you can add me on Skype with the same username as here on XDA.
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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB

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Development on the GLide has slowed to a crawl. No disrespect to the developers they are the best but most have now moved away from the Glide which is now almost a 2 year old phone. I love my Glide but I am envious of all the new Phones coming out with larger displays, LTE and now even IR. Wish I could control my TV with my Glide without need for any other attachment or computer. Our GLide is still one of the best Hardware Keyboard devices but the bad battery drain that makes me have to add an oversize battery making it look like a phone from 5 years ago. We will never get an official JB from our carriers as they have dropped support for our phone already. As for JB from our developers it is promising but unfortunately Bluetooth headset profile is not working or very flaking that makes it not a viable solution especially for those of us that live in areas where it is ilegal to hold your handset and drive.
My recommendation is get the GLide if it is very cheap as it is still a decent phone, but if you can shell out a little more cash get something newer with more support from it's carrier and more people on it in the XDA community.
JB
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Sorry, but, I need to ask, why are you quoting me ?

Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB

Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.

dudejb said:
Sorry Santi....My mistake meant to hit Quick reply and quoted you by accident. My apologies again, no disrespect intended.
JB
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No problem.
xtacb4 said:
Well I pulled the trigger on the Glide, and I could not be happiers, it is a superb phone, yes, old, but here we are like 5 years behind everything, so net I'm an 2 years ahead
Thank you everyone and specially santimaster2000.
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Hey, we live in the same country and speak the same language, helping you to choose the best Qwerty Phone was almost my responsability.
Also, I may have to rape you later

santimaster2000 said:
...Also, I may have to rape you later
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I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3

xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !

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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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They took Sure to jail.

last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)

Androide3 said:
last android with keyboard: SAMSUNG strathospere II and LG mach (booth dual core 1.2ghz 1gb RAM and 5mpx rear camera), I still prefer my captivate glide but its gettin too old now...(sorry for my english i speak spanish...)
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No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.

yohan4ws said:
No reason to change unless they release a quad core qwerty phone w/ JB stock.
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Exactly !

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Exactly !
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+1

xtacb4 said:
I'm still waiting...oh wait, I plowed you on bf3
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Pretty sure I've killed you more times than you did to me, a lot more times !
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+1
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Hey I too play BF3 add me on Origin same name DudeJB.
See you on the battlefield!
What are your account names?
JB

Talking about going offtopic... I'm not really playing Bf3 right now, that was the last time i even played, I somewhat switched to SC2, til i get bored and switch again.
Where should I report that with CM10.1 M3 (M2 too) my Morotola S305 BT headset has music and controls working ok? no phone audio though.

Are all Tmo S4's made in China? possibility that Google Edition wil also be China?

Just wondering if the experience with all Tmo S4 owners so far if their handsets are all made in China or are there some that were korean made?
Just read that the Google Edition will likely be a modified Tmo edition.
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-nexus-t-mobile-212316/
If the above holds true then that means the Google Editions will also be China made.
I originally bought 2 AT&T S4's one white 16gb and a black 32gb, both are korean made.
I returned the white (launch date unit) due to 1 dead pixel and some cosmetic flaws, miss-aligned camera bezel and raised earpiece trim.
so far the black 32gb is perfect.
I am thinking of replacing the returned white 16gb with a google edition. But weighing my Pros can Cons.
I've read that the pure nexus software will not have support for Air Gestures (since it's a part of touchwizz) and likely other features samsung added in. That's a CON for me.
the China vs. Korea is also a CON, in the past I've owned a Korean Note GT-N7100 and my parents had 2 China made AT&T notes, upon careful inspection, the fit and finish was better on my Korean made unit (not sure why my white s4 was bad though)
Nexus software is PRO, due to the fact there is no bloat and will have more available space on the 16gb model.
Unlocked and working LTE on both Tmo and ATT is a PRO... easier resale, and more flexibility moving between carriers.
Let me know what you guys think and if your unit is China or Korea.
Thanks.

This made in China is bad is bull..no issues with the China made S4. They all go through the same quality inspection so should be same.
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it doesnt matter where it came from people. its made in a sumsung factory, under the same inspections. the only difference is location. stop being paranoid and just appreciate the phone already

Cry "Conspiracy" and boycott!!! the chineese gov could be watching us...Har har har. j/k

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it doesnt matter where it came from people. its made in a sumsung factory, under the same inspections. the only difference is location. stop being paranoid and just appreciate the phone already
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If only that were true, and here come all the stories about samsung using under-aged labor in China, if they can't stay honest about the age of their labor who's to say they will uphold the same level of QC as the factory in Korea?
I am skeptical, but who knows, if there are more reports the korean made units I might be swayed.
as a matter of fact I am enjoying my Korean made black 32gb just fine at the moment :good:
just on the edge if I should go Google Edition for my other S4 for my other line.

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If only that were true, and here come all the stories about samsung using under-aged labor in China, if they can't stay honest about the age of their labor who's to say they will uphold the same level of QC as the factory in Korea?
I am skeptical, but who knows, if there are more reports the korean made units I might be swayed.
as a matter of fact I am enjoying my Korean made black 32gb just fine at the moment :good:
just on the edge if I should go Google Edition for my other S4 for my other line.
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SO are you saying you want your phone made by hot underage asian girls? or am i mis interpreting this?

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SO are you saying you want your phone made by hot underage asian girls? or am i mis interpreting this?
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lol not necessarily, those Koreans might be looking good now, but who knows what they looked like before, haha.
have a look here, you'll never look at a Hot Korean girl the same.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kierawrr/31-crazy-before-and-after-photos-of-korean-plastic-4gx1

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lol not necessarily, those Koreans might be looking good now, but who knows what they looked like before, haha.
have a look here, you'll never look at a Hot Korean girl the same.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kierawrr/31-crazy-before-and-after-photos-of-korean-plastic-4gx1
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Same with fake boobies. All that really matters is the end result NO? QC matters to me and that is all. Now my wife is asian also. I'm just partial to atttractive women period.
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I personally feel the OP is thinking too much. $649 price tag means it's the exact same s4 but with a Google stamp. Everything will be the same whereas the software may be different.