Make a short list of things you wish the ZL had, in order to make your perfect vision of the ZL. I'm interested to see what people come up with and what is the most common.
Screen a la HTC One, with perfect viewingangles
32GB or 64GB internal storage, very nice when installing large applications / games
Bigger battery so it will come to the level of the HTC One and the Galaxy S IV
Software-options: DPI of the softbuttons, colors of the (notification)bar out of the box
It is perfect as far as I'm concerned.
The only thing I miss is the stock browser which can be installed if rooted.
augie7107 said:
It is perfect as far as I'm concerned.
The only thing I miss is the stock browser which can be installed if rooted.
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What's wrong with the browser supplied by Sony?
ryude said:
What's wrong with the browser supplied by Sony?
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They only supply Chrome which I'm not enamored with. I feel the android stock browser suits my taste better. I think stock is faster. I'm also more comfortable with it since I have essentially used this since I came over to Android on the Sony Ericsson X10. Also, all my previous devices came with stock browser and some had Chrome as an option. This device only comes loaded with Chrome.
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They only supply Chrome which I'm not enamored with. I feel the android stock browser suits my taste better. I think stock is faster. I'm also more comfortable with it since I have essentially used this since I came over to Android on the Sony Ericsson X10. Also, all my previous devices came with stock browser and some had Chrome as an option. This device only comes loaded with Chrome.
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Has anyone ported the stock browser yet?
ryude said:
Has anyone ported the stock browser yet?
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Yes, just use the search!
CLB-NL said:
Yes, just use the search!
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Calm down, this is General discussion.
ryude said:
Calm down, this is General discussion.
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I am calm, but what's the problem to search before asking;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213079
CLB-NL said:
I am calm, but what's the problem to search before asking;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213079
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What's the problem to have a discussion?
ryude said:
What's the problem to have a discussion?
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That it's lazy and with more than 2500 post you know how it works here...?
And I gave you a link, yeah thanks, happy community :s
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That it's lazy and with more than 2500 post you know how it works here...?
And I gave you a link, yeah thanks, happy community :s
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I didn't ask for the link, but thanks for making an argument.
perfect
the design is perfect:good:
ironheart5 said:
the design is perfect:good:
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I think so too! Is there anything in the software maybe that you wish was different or maybe included?
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I think so too! Is there anything in the software maybe that you wish was different or maybe included?
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Stock Android browser FTW instead or next to Chrome! DPI settings of the softbuttons, color of the softbuttons that you can change...
Having used the stock browser for a week, I think its not so great after all! Facebook images appear blurred (cramped in size), no full access to many websites like official sony support (can't login). No such issues with chrome, plus multi tab handling is best, but I miss the flash support, fullscreen & quick controls (of the stock browser) on chrome. Perhaps no browser is complete, so, I have to use both!
All that said, I would like sony to improve its camera software (mainly the image post processing) so as to have better quality (especially during day). I believe the camera sensor used (in Z/ZL) is top notch at the moment, but its performance limited by sony's software implementation (too much noise blur). Oh, n btw, the screen is stunning imo (best I've used so far) :good:!
Thanks for the replies everyone, this is very interesting and it helps me decide what I would want to work on for a ROM.
Guys I think Sony should make A new phone with the same Specs of Xperia Zl,
just as like HTC made their "htc one x" but Due to some issues like Fast battery draining and some other, Company made "htc onex+" with same Specs but adding more Battery(1850 to 2100mAh) and with more Storage.
So actually try to understand my point which is that Sony should Try to make Xperia ZLi or ZL+ and try to renew their Curent Xperia ZL stock by putting IPS LCD screen,removeeable battery cover like Xperia TX(Although battery cover is not a such issue) and putting Slightly more power to battery at least 2500mAh,
May be in this circumstances Sony recover their Loss which they Bear since Xperia TX................
we all see the S4 have almost same size of S3 but they ported amazingly 2100mAh to 2600mAh battery and also the weight is less than that of S3.By the way I'm Not Fanboy of Samsung....
Xperia having 2370mAh battery but its 9.8mm and S4 having 7.9mm slightly more bezel but more battery.
Its the Basically point to be noted why Samsung put more battery by just little difference of bezel size.
Xperia ZL is no doubt A good Smartphone but its resale value is equal to nothing,that's why ppl hesitating to purchase it,otherwise design is very impressive but screen really A bad factor for Zl,
Anyway I like the Xperia ZL but Sony should now learn A lesson at least..............
Dpk1 said:
Having used the stock browser for a week
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Can you rip that .apk?
Stock browser
CLB-NL said:
Can you rip that .apk?
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Sure, here you go (zip attached)! Just unzip & copy paste the two apk files to system/app & set permissions to rw- r-- r-- (but first, delete the chrome.apk & BrowserProviderProxy.apk). You can find all the info about it here.
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do u recommend to have xperia s ???
does it lag or something
do u recommend to buy it or locking for HTC or samsung
considering the price point??
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do u recommend to have xperia s ???
does it lag or something
do u recommend to buy it or locking for HTC or samsung
considering the price point??
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If me, i would go for Xperia Ion instead of XS....Just add some small bucks than XS...
Bigger screen, better camera, sleek design...Xperia S ? Yellow tint issue, ICS compatibility problem, this is what i read last time
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If me, i would go for Xperia Ion instead of XS....Just add some small bucks than XS...
Bigger screen, better camera, sleek design...Xperia S ? Yellow tint issue, ICS compatibility problem, this is what i read last time
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Better camera? They are exactly the same? Design? Its taste. Yellow tint issue was fixed 2 months after release. ICS problem? What the hell you are talking about?
On the other side, XS have much more and better support of devs.
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Better camera? They are exactly the same? Design? Its taste. Yellow tint issue was fixed 2 months after release. ICS problem? What the hell you are talking about?
On the other side, XS have much more and better support of devs.
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I thought ive used a nice language...Ive mentioned that i read it somewhere...Not that i am firm about it...
But still Ion is a better grab than XS, bigger screen, microSD expansion slot?
And about that XS with ICS not stable, well that happens to my country set whom upgrade to ICS through OTA...Maybe yours not
Chill bro
The fact is that you are speaking about stuffs you dont own apparently, and yes, the first things you said seemed to be like: I affirm this. This is it.
No, xperia S has no screen problems since ages, and has no ICS problems..
the only argument will be: price, screen size, memory, and subjective aspect: design.
end of topic about your intervention.
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I thought ive used a nice language...Ive mentioned that i read it somewhere...Not that i am firm about it...
But still Ion is a better grab than XS, bigger screen, microSD expansion slot?
And about that XS with ICS not stable, well that happens to my country set whom upgrade to ICS through OTA...Maybe yours not
Chill bro
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Sorry if I sounded like that. The "hell" part was only a way of like: "Never heard of that".
And I didn't said you were wrong. I just presented my arguments, which are against yours.
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The fact is that you are speaking about stuffs you dont own apparently, and yes, the first things you said seemed to be like: I affirm this. This is it.
No, xperia S has no screen problems since ages, and has no ICS problems..
the only argument will be: price, screen size, memory, and subjective aspect: design.
end of topic about your intervention.
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Sorry if I sounded like that. The "hell" part was only a way of like: "Never heard of that".
And I didn't said you were wrong. I just presented my arguments, which are against yours.
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From what ive read, every XS users who use OTA to ICS will encounter soo much lagginess...Bcoz of the second core disabled...
If its not true then its good to go though...No hardfeelings bro....
So which should be the best ? Xs or what?
XS got great support from XDA. but if you like bigger screen then may go for iON. But for a phone anything bigger than 4 - 4.3 is too much for me.
XPERIA LT26i has a reasonable speed/size internal flash at 32GB, misses out on MicroSD card, but really not a problem to hang a 32GB USB flash off a MicroUSB cable for most people.
XPERIA S is mostly cheaper
XPERIA ion has, LTE or HSDPA giving higher mobile speeds, a bigger battery and microSD card, but lose ~16GB internal flash.
The screen on both are much the same with XPERIA S having ~342 ppi pixel density and XPERIA ion less as it's screen is stretched out.
XPERIA acro S has 16GB internal memory, MicroSD AND is able to go swimming.
Firmware wise plus or minus a MicroSD the devices are all much the same with same processing hardware.
For all these devices JB(yet to be released) is mooted to have a good raft of features coming such as wireless media broadcast to compatible devices and etc
So this gives many of the software features of the new phones if you're happy to live with a ~1.7GHz Dual Core processor and an Adreno 220.
As already stated their will probably be more development around the XPERIA LT26i as it was part of the ASOP before Sony took over this development.
Go for the Xperia SL, with the latest firmware update it's fixed most of the problems. Only thing I dislike is the overheating and stock ROM forcing you to under clock your CPU during heavy use. With general everyday usage you rarely see this happen though.
r0bot said:
Go for the Xperia SL, with the latest firmware update it's fixed most of the problems. Only thing I dislike is the overheating and stock ROM forcing you to under clock your CPU during heavy use. With general everyday usage you rarely see this happen though.
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Is it the issue with just Xperia SL ? Xperia S doesnt overheat ?
I am confused between xperia s and sl ( or maybe the new xperia SP , but it will lack community support in beginning ) . Your suggestions are welcomed
Odp: do u recommend to have xperia s ???
hybridic said:
Is it the issue with just Xperia SL ? Xperia S doesnt overheat ?
I am confused between xperia s and sl ( or maybe the new xperia SP , but it will lack community support in beginning ) . Your suggestions are welcomed
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No, Xperia S isn't overheating. You can surf the Net and you won't burn your hands Only when you are playing good games(e.g. Real Racing 3) phone can be hot but it isn't 100 degrees and you would be able to play normally without problems. After a while you won't see that phone is hot.
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No, Xperia S isn't overheating. You can surf the Net and you won't burn your hands Only when you are playing good games(e.g. Real Racing 3) phone can be hot but it isn't 100 degrees and you would be able to play normally without problems. After a while you won't see that phone is hot.
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yea, my nexus 4 heats way more than my xperia..
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hey guyz,
As i am going to buy this phone next week so i am having some questions running around my head
like what are the key features and problems/issues of this phone?
I have seen some pretty good reviews of this phone on google and youtube but still wanted myself to be sure about this phone
1)is the yellow screen problem present in all xperia s?
2)what is the video playback support of this phone? (720 or 1080)
3)is there any force close or camera not responding problem with this phone?
4)i have seen many xperia phones with warm glow problem in portraits with camera.any chance of this happening in xperia s?
5)wifi or network signal drop issue?
any help will be appreciated
or any other phone that you can suggest
thanks guyz
1) i dont think so, i havent had any Problems regarding yellow tint
2) wow i dont really Know.. The screen is Not 1080 p as it doesnt have 1900x1200 (or 1080 i dunno) like the z
3) the camera is actually pretty quick and stable, but it will be even faster in JB Update. In the dark the camera is Not that good but flashing a cybershot mod or the Xperia v camera will almost fox this issue..
4) havent had that Problem
5) nope none at All. WiFi is a Bit worse than on my old iPhone 4(im ashamed) but still good
Hope i could help you But if i may ask, why buy an XS? Just take a Bit more money And buy a t or something
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1) i dont think so, i havent had any Problems regarding yellow tint
2) wow i dont really Know.. The screen is Not 1080 p as it doesnt have 1900x1200 (or 1080 i dunno) like the z
3) the camera is actually pretty quick and stable, but it will be even faster in JB Update. In the dark the camera is Not that good but flashing a cybershot mod or the Xperia v camera will almost fox this issue..
4) havent had that Problem
5) nope none at All. WiFi is a Bit worse than on my old iPhone 4(im ashamed) but still good
Hope i could help you But if i may ask, why buy an XS? Just take a Bit more money And buy a t or something
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thanks for your reply
i have seen xperia t although it has 720p screen and high ppi it looks even worse that my current phone(xperia sola)
which samsung phone do you suggest?
HunainKhalid said:
hey guyz,
As i am going to buy this phone next week so i am having some questions running around my head
like what are the key features and problems/issues of this phone?
I have seen some pretty good reviews of this phone on google and youtube but still wanted myself to be sure about this phone
1)is the yellow screen problem present in all xperia s?
2)what is the video playback support of this phone? (720 or 1080)
3)is there any force close or camera not responding problem with this phone?
4)i have seen many xperia phones with warm glow problem in portraits with camera.any chance of this happening in xperia s?
5)wifi or network signal drop issue?
any help will be appreciated
or any other phone that you can suggest
thanks guyz
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1) No yellow tints since Week 16 (that means since May 2011)
2) Supports 1080p with most codecs with full speed, maybe a bit of lag with some.
3) I don't have any
4) Warm Glow Camera?
5) My networks drops a bit too much, but it must be my carrier. it sucks.
Felimenta97 said:
1) No yellow tints since Week 16 (that means since May 2011)
2) Supports 1080p with most codecs with full speed, maybe a bit of lag with some.
3) I don't have any
4) Warm Glow Camera?
5) My networks drops a bit too much, but it must be my carrier. it sucks.
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+1 thanks for the reply
i have seen some sony phones camera that give warm glow to the skin in portraits like camera in xperia p,sola etc
i am asking is this problem present in xperia s or not?
HunainKhalid said:
+1 thanks for the reply
i have seen some sony phones camera that give warm glow to the skin in portraits like camera in xperia p,sola etc
i am asking is this problem present in xperia s or not?
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Not aware of that. My images look good. no tint issues.
Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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Well said :thumbup:
Sony's UI is awesome and better than TouchWiz.
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A few things you should be aware of:
The battery is NOT exchangeable,
There is NO µSD-Slot, so you only have the internal 32GB (ca. 28GB usable).
I own this phone now for 2 months, and i'm absolutely satisfied.
Actually there is no better phone available for the price of about 300,- € (about 350 - 400 $)
The Screen is very bright and crystal clear, like it.
Never had the illumination switched on, because then the display is so bright, worried of becoming blind
One last thing on playing videos:
Depending on the videoplayer (i use vlc) the phone CAN play 1080p videos (downsampled of course), because
the display is (only) HDready: 1.280x720p,
which is imho far enough for a handy display atm.
Compared the Screen with Sa****g S4 in the last days, using a hi-res photo ([email protected]), and saw no really big difference.
leine0104 said:
A few things you should be aware of:
The battery is NOT exchangeable,
There is NO µSD-Slot, so you only have the internal 32GB (ca. 28GB usable).
I own this phone now for 2 months, and i'm absolutely satisfied.
Actually there is no better phone available for the price of about 300,- € (about 350 - 400 $)
The Screen is very bright and crystal clear, like it.
Never had the illumination switched on, because then the display is so bright, worried of becoming blind
One last thing on playing videos:
Depending on the videoplayer (i use vlc) the phone CAN play 1080p videos (downsampled of course), because
the display is (only) HDready: 1.280x720p,
which is imho far enough for a handy display atm.
Compared the Screen with Sa****g S4 in the last days, using a hi-res photo ([email protected]), and saw no really big difference.
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:thumbup: thanks for the reply
Radixtrator said:
Which Samsung phone i would suggest? hm Thats easy: none.
Why buy a samsung phone? The Tablet might be pretty good but the phones are really ugly, made of cheap plastic and overpriced. If you dont want to spend a lot of money go for T or S. If you have a bit more to spare why not the Z or SP?
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xperia z here costs same as galaxy s4 (near about 650$) and xperia t price is the same as xperia s but the screen of xperia t is really worse
will go for xperia s
thanks for the reply
Yeas the screen is pretty much the same but dont forget Xperia T screen is bigger
I wish you a lot of fun with your new phone Dont forget to update to Jelly bean in the next couple of days(hopefully)
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Yeas the screen is pretty much the same but dont forget Xperia T screen is bigger
I wish you a lot of fun with your new phone Dont forget to update to Jelly bean in the next couple of days(hopefully)
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+1 thanks
i know the screens of xperia t and s are same both 720p but dont know why when i saw the xperia t the only thing that disappointed me was its screen it was not good at all even worse than my previous phone (xperia sola)
yeah my fiance recently got a TL...not sure if that has the same LCD as the T, but its a pretty noticeable difference over my Ion (which i think is similar to the S, but that is an xperia i've never seen in person). I was surprised that its so different, especially for video playback. I'm not saying it is terrible, but no matter the brightness setting, the contrast levels are completely different.
I know i've read that the Ion has one of the better screens...just didn't really notice how good it was until i compared it to an 'updated' version. kind of defeats the purpose imo...
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yeah my fiance recently got a TL...not sure if that has the same LCD as the T, but its a pretty noticeable difference over my Ion (which i think is similar to the S, but that is an xperia i've never seen in person). I was surprised that its so different, especially for video playback. I'm not saying it is terrible, but no matter the brightness setting, the contrast levels are completely different.
I know i've read that the Ion has one of the better screens...just didn't really notice how good it was until i compared it to an 'updated' version. kind of defeats the purpose imo...
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+1 thanks for the reply
you are right both the phones xperia s and xperia ion uses LED-backlit LCD while the xperia t and xperia tl uses TFT capacitive touchscreen
i think thats the reson.(all the phones have 720p display)
Hey guys..
For the first time i am having the opinion that finally a phone has landed in the beloved 4.3" segment which i (among many other fellow thinkers) believe can become my next purchase.
However, i have few questions which i would like others to comment upon:
1) I have always like the UI of Samsung. Currently using a Samsung phone with apex launcher and it is something i am very comfortable with.
Question is: How much close to that UI can i pull a Sony Xperia phone?
2) Can the night photography get better via future OTA updates?
Something like a patch/f.w revision?
3) I like to install good quality case on my phones. Havent seen anything for the z1 till now.
Any news on this dept? I hope the device gets good support from manufacturers like Spigen etc..
4) A bit OT, but somebody pls tell/direct me to ascertain the difference between Android Development Vs Original Android Development ?
Hi,
I don't have Sammy device but I can still answer few of your questions.
1- Sony UI is very nice indeed when I first used it but I use Apex the most as I like to personalised homescreen, icon and drawer.
2-probably YES and there already have new firmware update been approved by Sony for the Z1C. It could be anytime soon and awaiting to see what improvement it does.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/02/21/firmware-build-14-2-a-1-142-hits-the-xperia-z1-compact/
3-Already have quite lots of cases around. You could check CASE and SCREEN
4-No idea.
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Hey guys..
4) A bit OT, but somebody pls tell/direct me to ascertain the difference between Android Development Vs Original Android Development ?
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Example here:
If you take source of CyanogenMod, adjust it and build a ROM specifically for Xperia Z1 Compact, it's "Android Development".
But if you create a completely new ROM (or develop a new feature), it's "Original Android Development".
spacescreamer said:
Hey guys..
For the first time i am having the opinion that finally a phone has landed in the beloved 4.3" segment which i (among many other fellow thinkers) believe can become my next purchase.
However, i have few questions which i would like others to comment upon:
1) I have always like the UI of Samsung. Currently using a Samsung phone with apex launcher and it is something i am very comfortable with.
Question is: How much close to that UI can i pull a Sony Xperia phone?
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I haven bought z1 compact, but from my usage of XS
If you use a 3rd party launcher, some of the Xperia widget would not be available? This include weather, walkman, photo gallery, notepad, quick toggle widget etc. But, you can always use 3rd party app.
spacescreamer said:
Hey guys..
For the first time i am having the opinion that finally a phone has landed in the beloved 4.3" segment which i (among many other fellow thinkers) believe can become my next purchase.
However, i have few questions which i would like others to comment upon:
1) I have always like the UI of Samsung. Currently using a Samsung phone with apex launcher and it is something i am very comfortable with.
Question is: How much close to that UI can i pull a Sony Xperia phone?
2) Can the night photography get better via future OTA updates?
Something like a patch/f.w revision?
3) I like to install good quality case on my phones. Havent seen anything for the z1 till now.
Any news on this dept? I hope the device gets good support from manufacturers like Spigen etc..
4) A bit OT, but somebody pls tell/direct me to ascertain the difference between Android Development Vs Original Android Development ?
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x1 compact is the great phone with great battery life,performance,water proof,smart looking
When i first saw this phone in the market then i decide to buy it and finally i bought it. Its performance is good and smooth. Its look also be good. I am happy to use this operating system.
maajstor said:
Example here:
If you take source of CyanogenMod, adjust it and build a ROM specifically for Xperia Z1 Compact, it's "Android Development".
But if you create a completely new ROM (or develop a new feature), it's "Original Android Development".
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thanks!
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spacescreamer said:
Hey guys..
For the first time i am having the opinion that finally a phone has landed in the beloved 4.3" segment which i (among many other fellow thinkers) believe can become my next purchase.
However, i have few questions which i would like others to comment upon:
1) I have always like the UI of Samsung. Currently using a Samsung phone with apex launcher and it is something i am very comfortable with.
Question is: How much close to that UI can i pull a Sony Xperia phone?
2) Can the night photography get better via future OTA updates?
Something like a patch/f.w revision?
3) I like to install good quality case on my phones. Havent seen anything for the z1 till now.
Any news on this dept? I hope the device gets good support from manufacturers like Spigen etc..
4) A bit OT, but somebody pls tell/direct me to ascertain the difference between Android Development Vs Original Android Development ?
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2) From my understanding, using manual mode with proper ISO settings and no flash takes brilliant night photos. I mean, that is generally how you take good night photos with a good camera anyways. While I understand why there is the flash bleed, the flash on a tiny smartphone, let alone a compact point and shoot isn't going to do any good anyways. Unless you have separate lighting, flash ruins anything but a tight portrait shot, and even then, this can mostly be fixed by the simple DIY thread on fixing the bleed.
Short of the Nokia 920 I had, I haven't had a phone that takes particularly good night shots ever. Yeah, some take so-so shots, but nothing has been spectacular, because no other phones have a 3-way OIS (optical image stabilization). 2-way OIS seems somewhat useless.
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thanks!
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Please see this: http://bit.ly/1geEfBv
I see you already got a few good responses here, but i thought you might want another former Samsung-users input.
1) I have always like the UI of Samsung. Currently using a Samsung phone with apex launcher and it is something i am very comfortable with.
Question is: How much close to that UI can i pull a Sony Xperia phone?
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If you use Apex Launcher, or any 3rd-party launcher, your experience will be VERY similar to that of a Samsung phone with the same launcher.
I myself prefer Themer by MyColorScreen
2) Can the night photography get better via future OTA updates?
Something like a patch/f.w revision?
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I sure hope it will, though i prefer slightly darker photos with low ISO noise, but that is all about personal preference. Manual settings can sort it out to some degree.
3) I like to install good quality case on my phones. Havent seen anything for the z1 till now.
Any news on this dept? I hope the device gets good support from manufacturers like Spigen etc..
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Z1C is still considered a fairly new device, and where i live people arewaiting in line to get their phone, so as case and accesorymanufacturers see that the device is selling heaps, they will start shipping compatible accessories. I got a dirt cheap wallet-leather folding case-thingy, that i might swap out since I'd like to use the magnetic dock at some point in time.
Bottom line: I have no regrets moving from my S3, and the screensize is perfect. With my S3 i even missed my S1 on some occations because of the one-hand-operating-friendlyness of the latter.
Hope this helps
this is the best device for me. Best battery, design, powerful device
spacescreamer said:
3) I like to install good quality case on my phones. Havent seen anything for the z1 till now.
Any news on this dept? I hope the device gets good support from manufacturers like Spigen etc..
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I am using the Case Mate Tough Case which I consider er "good quality case". Unifortunately Case Mate have designed it without access to the Magnetic Charging Port, but as shown in the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631321&page=4 you can mod the case to take care of this. All in all I am really happy about both my phone and my case although It obviously would have been preferable if Case Mate had made the cutout for the magnetic charging port themselves.
Did it happen to you ?
My phone (Z1C, rooted, locked BL, UK software loaded as described in XDA roooting procedure)
sometimes forgets settings or set them to random values.
Example:
1. Alarm clock returns sound to default.
2. I noticed that I have 3 extra alarms set, completely at random hours.
Questions:
- Did it happen to you ?
- Any idea what could cause it ?
Never happened to me though I don't use the stock alarm, I use Timely Alarm Clock ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.bitspin.timely )
Hello guys,
I'm as of now an iPhone 5 user and my parents have took my phone away because i was using it "too much" for about 5 months ago. Today, me and my parents were in an electronic shop and we've been looking for some phones for my grands. Then my mom just randomly said, that she will be using my iPhone 5 as shes normal phone and she offered me a deal, i would still have the iPhone 5 which i can't use much, OR if i'll consider about the S3 Mini or the Xperia M. So here's my question, does the Xperia M worth? Are there many ROMs? Do the features are almost same as in iPhone 5? Does CM11 lags really much or bugs? Is the multitasking good as in iPhone? Can the phone be good in hardware for about next 3-4 years? Therefore, thanks to all who can answer me those questions.
david19au said:
Hello guys,
I'm as of now an iPhone 5 user and my parents have took my phone away because i was using it "too much" for about 5 months ago. Today, me and my parents were in an electronic shop and we've been looking for some phones for my grands. Then my mom just randomly said, that she will be using my iPhone 5 as shes normal phone and she offered me a deal, i would still have the iPhone 5 which i can't use much, OR if i'll consider about the S3 Mini or the Xperia M. So here's my question, does the Xperia M worth? Are there many ROMs? Do the features are almost same as in iPhone 5? Does CM11 lags really much or bugs? Is the multitasking good as in iPhone? Can the phone be good in hardware for about next 3-4 years? Therefore, thanks to all who can answer me those questions.
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This phone can pretty much fill all your needs. There are almost nil bugs in CM11 and it doesn't lagg! Multitasking is 200% better than the iPhone :silly: You can always peep in the Development and Original Development section for roms there are a variety of AOSP Roms as well as Stock based roms!
In terms of hardware for the next 3-4 years the phone is packed with a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor along with Adreno 305 which runs almost any game or heavy app without lagg (Even Facebook :victory: :silly
Tho I won't give you wrong info about the phone.. It would heat a bit but not so much. For minimal use and just multitasking its a great phone and I totally recommend you to buy it! :highfive::laugh::fingers-crossed:
david19au said:
Hello guys,
I'm as of now an iPhone 5 user and my parents have took my phone away because i was using it "too much" for about 5 months ago. Today, me and my parents were in an electronic shop and we've been looking for some phones for my grands. Then my mom just randomly said, that she will be using my iPhone 5 as shes normal phone and she offered me a deal, i would still have the iPhone 5 which i can't use much, OR if i'll consider about the S3 Mini or the Xperia M. So here's my question, does the Xperia M worth? Are there many ROMs? Do the features are almost same as in iPhone 5? Does CM11 lags really much or bugs? Is the multitasking good as in iPhone? Can the phone be good in hardware for about next 3-4 years? Therefore, thanks to all who can answer me those questions.
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The phone is a beast.
Handles CM11 at its best
Who's it--> SONY
Music: Walkman's there
Multitask --> Yipee
Design--> straight up' no playin with design
And yea its Android bud'
Play with it anytime tweak it anywhere
SpinXO said:
This phone can pretty much fill all your needs. There are almost nil bugs in CM11 and it doesn't lagg! Multitasking is 200% better than the iPhone :silly: You can always peep in the Development and Original Development section for roms there are a variety of AOSP Roms as well as Stock based roms!
In terms of hardware for the next 3-4 years the phone is packed with a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor along with Adreno 305 which runs almost any game or heavy app without lagg (Even Facebook :victory: :silly
Tho I won't give you wrong info about the phone.. It would heat a bit but not so much. For minimal use and just multitasking its a great phone and I totally recommend you to buy it! :highfive::laugh::fingers-crossed:
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cabba403 said:
The phone is a beast.
Handles CM11 at its best
Who's it--> SONY
Music: Walkman's there
Multitask --> Yipee
Design--> straight up' no playin with design
And yea its Android bud'
Play with it anytime tweak it anywhere
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Thank You guys very much But what's better, S3 Mini or this Xperia?
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david19au said:
Thank You guys very much But what's better, S3 Mini or this Xperia?
Odesláno z mého PAP3400DUO pomocí Tapatalk
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geekaphone. com/compare/Sony-Xperia-M-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Mini
phonearena. com/phones/Sony-Xperia-M_id7875/benchmarks
fonearena. com/blog/65458/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-benchmarks.html
(Remove the space between . and com, Because I can't post links outside XDA because less than 10 posts )
I love Sony for their responsive UI and the never before experience they give who have got their new first xperia device! Samsung packs in a lot of apps that are not needed in daily activities and stuff we usually do on phone!
Also, Sony is not predictable like Samsung is for example was the Xperia M 4.3 update expected?
Hope the above links help ^^ :fingers-crossed:
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geekaphone. com/compare/Sony-Xperia-M-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-Mini
phonearena. com/phones/Sony-Xperia-M_id7875/benchmarks
fonearena. com/blog/65458/samsung-galaxy-s3-mini-benchmarks.html
(Remove the space between . and com, Because I can't post links outside XDA because less than 10 posts )
I love Sony for their responsive UI and the never before experience they give who have got their new first xperia device! Samsung packs in a lot of apps that are not needed in daily activities and stuff we usually do on phone!
Also, Sony is not predictable like Samsung is for example was the Xperia M 4.3 update expected?
Hope the above links help ^^ :fingers-crossed:
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Well, it's 50:50 for me. Looking on ROMs for both of the devices, just a question, is the community for Xperia M big?
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Well, it's 50:50 for me. Looking on ROMs for both of the devices, just a question, is the community for Xperia M big?
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Seeing upto Facebook yeah looks like it's very big but I really don't know how many from the "11K" members group really own an Xperia M!
Based on my research on google, i see that the specs are similar to each other, but:
If you looking for more performance and multitasking, choose Xperia M :victory:
If you looking for a phone with strong display (Gorilla Glass), choose S3 Mini. :fingers-crossed:
Anyway, the choose is still depend on you. Good luck!
Guys, just another question, will be there more ROMs for this device? Like, i couldn't find MIUI, Lewa or something like that? Thx for reply again
david19au said:
Guys, just another question, will be there more ROMs for this device? Like, i couldn't find MIUI, Lewa or something like that? Thx for reply again
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Probably there will be more roms, just wait and see. But In my opinion cm11 is quite good custom rom for our device.
Barua said:
Probably there will be more roms, just wait and see. But In my opinion cm11 is quite good custom rom for our device.
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And how about themed custom ROMs? (Touchwiz, HTC Sence etc.) Or it is possible to port ROMs from the S3 Mini?
Okay so I'm in a situation where I soon need to get rid of my old sh**ty Xperia Active.
My first smart phone was a Xperia X10i (Which I contributed almost all stock firmwares for, here on XDA), followed by a Nokia 800 (WP7), then a Huawei Ascend P1 which I unfortunately lost and had to go back to a backup phone which is the Xperia Active.
Now I've been looking around for a replacement and the Z1C is really attractive with the awesome design language Sony has set for their Xperia line. But I wanted to get the opinions from flashers and devs here on XDA, mainly because I usually don't stick with stock firmware for long.
So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
I know there is loads of custom firmwares for the Nexus line of devices, and the Oppo and OnePlus devices has CyanogenMod support.
So my only "Uncertainty" is the Xperia devices.
Now I know FXP is covering a lot of Xperias but I want to know if there is other major ROM supports for the Z1C and M2 and if the release cycle is on time with CM or not too far after that.
And how stable the builds are in general with the latest official builds of Android (4.4.3 and 4.4.4).
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
Is it easy to root?
What recoveries is available?
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I appreciate all the input you can give me and hopefully I'll get a little bit back into the Xperia hacking.
arkedk said:
So I've done some searching and found some "contenders" for my next phone.
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact
Oppo Find 7a
Sony Xperia M2
OnePlus One (When available)
Google Nexus 5
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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I'm curious, why is Z1C on the list but not the Z2? I ask because I noticed that besides the Z1C (and the M2 which is just a cheaper (and larger) Z1C pretty much) all the other phones are 5" or larger. The main reason I personally picked the 4.3" Z1C is that it has flagship specs in a small package, that and that Sony are traditionally quite developer friendly. Is it an economical choice or are you just not sure on the size?
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost from 270 to 400 euro here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship coming in at around 670 euro, and I wont spent that on a phone since I'm buying without contract as I'm perfectly happy with my carrier and don't want to be locked down for 6 months at a new carrier.
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Mostly because of pricing. These devices cost roughly the same here, and the Z2 is significantly more expensive because it's the newest flagship.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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So it has nothing to do with size? Because compared to other Snapdragon 800 phones, that (and waterproofing) is what the Z1C has going for it. It has a lower resolution display which means less work for the GPU, and thus better battery life and a more fluid UI.
If it's solely the price and you don't mind a larger phone then I'd probably go with a One PlusOne, but I would suggest you go and have a play with a Z1C before making a decision. See if you like the size.
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Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
arkedk said:
Well it's not all down to price. I want a phone that has a good dev community around it, so it's possible to try new kernels, tweaked stock firmwares and custom firmwares like CM, Paranoid and other major custom ROM's. I know that Nexus has this, but the design of that phone is boring and the camera is "bleeh". So the Z1C looked like a good device with great specs, small form factor and a great camera.
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Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
Trying to be helpful here (my comments in italics):
In general how have you had it with your Z1C?
I used to be LG O2X owner, and compared to my old phone Z1C even running with stock rom is fast, stable and smooth.
Is it easy to root?
Very easy. All you need to do is download a file and follow the OP here. And I can confirm that it works with the latest kitkat/4.4.4.
What recoveries is available?
TWRP, PhilZ and CWM are available. You can get them here..
Is there many reports on defects/faults on the device?
Some users report flashbleed problem with the camera (fortunately I don't have that problem).
How well is the developer community for this particular device?
I'd say quite good, judging from the number of custom ROM and kernel available for Z1C in the XDA.
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
komedol said:
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
I think so, check here..
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arkedk said:
Is Sony releasing kernel source for the device?
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Sony recently uploaded all their copyleft kernels to GitHub, below link is for current Z1C tree.
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/kernel-copyleft/tree/14.3.A.0.xxx
Rekoil said:
Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Hmm that's quite a big point in why I want the Z1C. The great pictures that can be taken on stock doesn't work properly on cm. Are they porting stock camera drivers and app into future FXP releases or count on getting the issues fixed?
Rekoil said:
Well camera is a bit iffy, but other than that CM runs smooth as hell on the Z1C, that's really all I care about hehe.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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Photos seem to have more noise as far as I could tell when I tested a FXP build. And currently it's not possible to have 4k and 120FPS recording on a CM based rom or at least nobody successfully tested it.
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Do photos have a lower quality or do some things simply don't work?
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About the same quality wise in my opinion, but camera starts really slow, and you lose a lot of features and post-processing that Sonys camera app does.
People mentioned that the BIONZ image processor only works with stock roms, don't know if that's true.