[q] long battery charging - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
Is it normal that my xperia arc s takes over 4 to 5 hours to complete a full charge?
I mean, I`ve read here that some people said that they have a full charge in around 2 and a half hours.
Does the fact that my arc is international and im on America? Here the voltage is around 110-120 V
Or is the charger itself? It saids something like ECO FRIENDLY, and if i charge throught my computer i dont see any difference in the charging time... and its suppose to take longer this way.
Could be my charger? Need to buy a new one? And it is safe to buy a generic one?
Thanks

It's not normal for me, as it takes up to an hour and a half to fully charge. However it may the regional differences in voltage that may be the cause. The voltage we have in Astralia is double yours, at 240 V.
As for the generic charger, it'll be fine

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But the voltage zone only affects the charger or the phone and battery too?
I mean, sony made them different for each region or just the charger?

Check electric current on your charger also.
My charger has output 850mA and I also have fake charger with output 500mA. Charging using fake one makes my phone touchscreen crazy and charging takes ages.
USB also has current 500mA.
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michel_666 said:
Check electric current on your charger also.
My charger has output 850mA and I also have fake charger with output 500mA. Charging using fake one makes my phone touchscreen crazy and charging takes ages.
USB also has current 500mA.
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lol, my charger has 1500mA output . I have 220 V in my house, and the phone charges in ~1 hr 45 min

Check the o/p value of charger mine is 5.0vdc takes 2 hours for full charge.. Input value differs from country to country.. That's 100v to 240v ac.. Here in India 230v

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[Q] Charging Current

Hi All,
Was wondering if anyone knows the maximum current the SGS2 can draw for charging purposes. I had a look at the wall charger provided with it, and it's 0.7a; it takes forever (my opinion) to charge compared to my last phone. Just wondering if it is worth my while investing in a more powerful charger.
Cheers
If you take the battery out and look and the sticker then it says there 1000mA
Excellent thanks; Can't get the back off my phone (fingernails).
oozrafa said:
If you take the battery out and look and the sticker then it says there 1000mA
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Also, at the start of the SGS2 charging cycle, my wall-plug power meter reads 5.1 W.
5.1 is what the adapter is pulling. All of that isn't getting to the phone. Funny thing for my is the phone charges faster off my blackberry 0.75a charger then it does off my Galaxy I 1a charger.
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Someone in another thread mentioned seeing something in the source code about the phone drawing at most 650 mA (instead of a more typical 1000 mA) during charging. If that's the case, a more powerful charger by itself won't help; you'd also need a custom ROM that doesn't limit the charge current.
Does anyone know why Samsung would limit the charge current?
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Does anyone know why Samsung would limit the charge current?
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Speculation is that its a heat related problem. Don't want to pull a Sony and have the batteries explode on people... (but again, that's speculation)
Murfle said:
Speculation is that its a heat related problem. Don't want to pull a Sony and have the batteries explode on people... (but again, that's speculation)
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I also heard that a smaller charging current extends the Li-ion battery's lifetime, even though I'd prefer quicker charging as the battery can be replaced with ease.
I second that. I tried it today with a 1A car charger (USB cig. plug) can't say it made a difference on speed of charge compared to wall one.
Just received my SGSII and the charging is extremely slow. 3+ hours = about 500 mAh, on a 1A wall charger. Never had such a slow charging smartphone before
To change i9100 charging current you have to short r529 or r531
Current limit will change to 1000mA
You can use 2A charger and phone will charge only with 650mA current
But after this short one of those resistors current limit will change to 1A
I use it on my phone and all is fine. Current after change is measured.
Wath this film youtube.com/watch?v=FL71G2YEIHU
Make shortcut of resistor and check your new current and feel the difference.
Is there a logfile, where I can see which charge current is used?
I have the suspicion, that my noname charger is not recognized properly and it only charges with USB current (450mA).
hmm a 1000mA current could be used also for the 2000mAh battery?
Yes, should not depend on the capacity of the battery.
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thank for all, it help me so much
1000mA is more likely the maximum current that the phone is expected to drain from the battery.
It is not the battery charging current, which is presumably equal to the mentioned 650mA, since the 1650mAh battery charges in about 4 hours.
If the charging current was actually 1000mA, then the 1650mA battery it would charge in 2 hours or so, but as we all know, it is not so, even with a 2A charger.
mine took about 4 hours charge the battery
The charging time depends on the Charger and Rom i use, i havent figured out for what reason.
Sometimes the SGS2 is charged in approx. 1 hour and with other Roms the charging time may take up to 3h.
kirschi said:
The charging time depends on the Charger and Rom i use, i havent figured out for what reason.
Sometimes the SGS2 is charged in approx. 1 hour and with other Roms the charging time may take up to 3h.
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Definately 650ma, IF the phone detects an High current USB port, otherwise it falls back to lousy 400ma.
You can trick into 650ma always: take a usb cable, cut from the PC plug side the TX/RX cables, on the other side short them on PHONE plug side these two cables.
Phone will now always go into "AC charging mode". Don't worry (too much) for your USB ports, they can all well 1000ma, and the one that cannot will report "high current detected, port disable".
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Anything special about the USB cable included in box?

I just got my S2 5 days ago. All this time I been wondering why it takes around 5 hours to charge from 20% to 100%. At first, I been using my G2X charger, it was rated at the same 5V 1A output so I thought it wouldn't matter. Then I used the included Samsung charger with same LG cable, no difference. Now when using the Samsung cable, it only takes about 2 hours to charge from around 15% to 100%.
Is this just coincidence? Is my phone too new and just needed a few cycles? I'll test again tomorrow, or when my phone reaches below 20% with the LG cable.
There's been known issues with using chargers other than stock..mine gets stuck at 100% until I reboot if I use any charger other than the OEM that came with it.
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the OEM cable
it'll be your life line in case of emergency like this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1561432
From my experience you're going to always want to use the charger and cord that came with the phone. I bought my Galaxy S II off the streets and it did not come with the cord, so originally I tried using my OG Droid charger since it's micro USB too but it wouldn't even accept it at all (I'm pretty sure because it was too under-powered for the Galaxy S II (My speculation)). I tried using an older LG micro USB cable too (I think it was even older though) it didn't work either, so now I use my Vizio TAB micro USB cord which seems to work fine.
But also at my work we have a 3rd party micro usb charger too but it's universal, but if I charge my phone on there, not only does it take longer to charge it doesn't hold the battery as long.
So what I've figured out is you're gonna want to use your own charger the phone came with to achieve maximum battery life, also unplug the charger right away when it hits 100%.
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I just got my S2 5 days ago. All this time I been wondering why it takes around 5 hours to charge from 20% to 100%. At first, I been using my G2X charger, it was rated at the same 5V 1A output so I thought it wouldn't matter. Then I used the included Samsung charger with same LG cable, no difference. Now when using the Samsung cable, it only takes about 2 hours to charge from around 15% to 100%.
Is this just coincidence? Is my phone too new and just needed a few cycles? I'll test again tomorrow, or when my phone reaches below 20% with the LG cable.
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Wow lol I post the same thing every second day on some forum or other xD
The usb is special in the sense it has a nice rubber feel and cool plastic iphone style caps on the end..
Its a MICRO-USB male to USB male cable, nothing more, seeing as it is still a standard USB cable it has a max current of 5v (5.25 I do believe..), plugging it into a USB to AC converter over 5v can screw up the device and cable, sscond point.
Standard charger is 5v AC, using a charger below wont cause harm, but using one above can screw up your phone and battery and not ground it properly..
3rd point, keep in mind the mAh on the charger when charging, some (for like bluetooth headsets) are only 500mAh)
mAh is an acronym for ampere an hour, and in short, for chargers measures the current sent to the device at an hourly rate, for batterys (such as lithium ion) measures the actual charge capacity of the cell, using one with a higher mAh then the stock battery (1850mAh) will only charge it quicker and is recommended.
Fourth and final, remember with USB to AC adapters that some only have +5 and ground enabled (2 outer pins), ising the device its meant for on a ac adapter with all 4 pins enabled will make the device try to establish a connection and can again, make it not ground properly. I think ours has the 4 pins enabled though so ignore the last point..
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Lmfao at above few posts (your theories have no basis, allow me to explain)
When you plug your charger in, regardless if its connected or not, its "live"
That being said, the every cellphone (keyword: cell) uses a lithium-ion battery,
That cell has a control board with a chip with a bit of information, some variable, the device has READ access to this board, and collects informagion such as max mAh, current mAh, and min mAh, the device then calculates from that, a percentage,
It then displays that information to the user, the minimum (displays 0-1%), is usually a value around ~100mAh if the cell dies to 0mAh, this can reset the control board and drasticly reduce the batterys expectancy and overall life.
Also, the actual chip on the phone, is simply for, when the battery is full, (current mAh meets max)
Said device drops connection to the cell and resumes on AC, leaving battery fully charged.
Unless you use a charger outside above said specifications, its literally impossible for a charger or file on said device (referring to batterystats n00bs who dont research) to adjust or recalibrate a lithium ion battery.
Hows that for a response I kept it clean
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Wow lol I post the same thing every second day on some forum or other xD
The usb is special in the sense it has a nice rubber feel and cool plastic iphone style caps on the end..
Its a MICRO-USB male to USB male cable, nothing more, seeing as it is still a standard USB cable it has a max current of 5v (5.25 I do believe..), plugging it into a USB to AC converter over 5v can screw up the device and cable, sscond point.
Standard charger is 5v AC, using a charger below wont cause harm, but using one above can screw up your phone and battery and not ground it properly..
3rd point, keep in mind the mAh on the charger when charging, some (for like bluetooth headsets) are only 500mAh)
mAh is an acronym for ampere an hour, and in short, for chargers measures the current sent to the device at an hourly rate, for batterys (such as lithium ion) measures the actual charge capacity of the cell, using one with a higher mAh then the stock battery (1850mAh) will only charge it quicker and is recommended.
Fourth and final, remember with USB to AC adapters that some only have +5 and ground enabled (2 outer pins), ising the device its meant for on a ac adapter with all 4 pins enabled will make the device try to establish a connection and can again, make it not ground properly. I think ours has the 4 pins enabled though so ignore the last point..
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Lmfao at above few posts (your theories have no basis, allow me to explain)
When you plug your charger in, regardless if its connected or not, its "live"
That being said, the every cellphone (keyword: cell) uses a lithium-ion battery,
That cell has a control board with a chip with a bit of information, some variable, the device has READ access to this board, and collects informagion such as max mAh, current mAh, and min mAh, the device then calculates from that, a percentage,
It then displays that information to the user, the minimum (displays 0-1%), is usually a value around ~100mAh if the cell dies to 0mAh, this can reset the control board and drasticly reduce the batterys expectancy and overall life.
Also, the actual chip on the phone, is simply for, when the battery is full, (current mAh meets max)
Said device drops connection to the cell and resumes on AC, leaving battery fully charged.
Unless you use a charger outside above said specifications, its literally impossible for a charger or file on said device (referring to batterystats n00bs who dont research) to adjust or recalibrate a lithium ion battery.
Hows that for a response I kept it clean
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That's exactly my point. Shouldn't all micro USB cables be the same? I been charging all my other smartphones with many different micro USB cables and they all charged normally. Now with this phone, it takes over 5 hours to charge with my LG branded cable, this is with the stock S2 charger. Now with the Stock S2 cable, it charges in about 2 hours.
I'm gonna have to test again with the LG cable, as others reported long charging times within the first few days.
BTW, the current rating on a charger is NOT the hourly rate (ah). Also charging a lithium ion battery at a rate of 1850mah or higher should not be recommended.
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shilent said:
That's exactly my point. Shouldn't all micro USB cables be the same? I been charging all my other smartphones with many different micro USB cables and they all charged normally. Now with this phone, it takes over 5 hours to charge with my LG branded cable, this is with the stock S2 charger. Now with the Stock S2 cable, it charges in about 2 hours.
I'm gonna have to test again with the LG cable, as others reported long charging times within the first few days.
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Its never gonna be a linear charge or drain.
Simply put its an OS, As all OS's they have services that can start at different points, and also open different apps, also using rhe device, applications still in the ram, connection strength will all effect this its impossible to check 2 differenf charge methods accurately enough to get a definitive answer without 2 identical systems, apps, data, kernal and all, one on top of the other, plugged in simultaneously, in sleep mode, to the same outlet :/
Haha well I may be in trouble. I use several different friends, co workers chargers everyday.
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Haha well I may be in trouble. I use several different friends, co workers chargers everyday.
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I have 3 chargers I use for this and haven't had no issues, there is no way using a different charger (unless its outside above said specifications) that it can do anything to your device including screw with the charge level.. people just don't like to research.
Just an update, it took 2 hours and 25 minutes to charge my S2 from 25% to 75% using my LG cable (same stock S2 charger). I'm gonna test with my Palm micro USB cable next.
shilent said:
Just an update, it took 2 hours and 25 minutes to charge my S2 from 25% to 75% using my LG cable (same stock S2 charger). I'm gonna test with my Palm micro USB cable next.
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One, if you want an accurate trst with one device, kill to zero percent and plug it in, eithout turning on time to 100%, run same test eith another cable
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shilent said:
BTW, the current rating on a charger is NOT the hourly rate (ah). Also charging a lithium ion battery at a rate of 1850mah or higher should not be recommended.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampere-hour
Link for you to check your **** before correcting people
Using one equal to or higher then battery capacity IS recommended..
To save you the trouble of reading **** WAY over your head:
The Faraday constant is the charge on one mole of electrons;
approximately equal to 26.8 ampere-hours. It is used in
electrochemical calculations.
An ampere-hour is not a unit of energy. In a battery system, for
example, accurate calculation of the energy delivered requires
integration of the power delivered (product of instantaneous
voltage and instantaneous current) over the discharge interval.
Generally, the battery voltage varies during discharge; an average
value may be used to approximate the integration of power. [3]
In summary, the higher the mAh, the longer the battery will last.
One, if you want an accurate trst with one device, kill to zero percent and plug it in, eithout turning on time to 100%, run same test eith another cable
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampere-hour
Link for you to check your **** before correcting people
Using one equal to or higher then battery capacity IS recommended..
To save you the trouble of reading **** WAY over your head:
The Faraday constant is the charge on one mole electrons;
approximately equal to 26.8 ampere-hours. It is used in
electrochemical calculations
An ampere-hour is not a unit of energy. In a battery system, for
example, accurate calculation of the energy delivered requires
integration of the power delivered (product of instantaneous
voltage and instantaneous current) over the discharge interval.
Generally, the battery voltage varies during discharge; an average
value may be used to approximate the integration of power. [3]
In summary, the higher the mAh, the longer the battery will last.
For chargers, the higher mAh sends a larger current of the same voltage to the device, charging it faster, lower mAh can and will cjarge slowly.. I'm not sayin go use a 5v 50k mAh charger for the battery and charge it in a split second here.
Wtc! I hit edit! Mod plz merge these...
Charge rate of 1C = the capacity of the battery, in our case, 1C = 1850mah. It is not recommended to charge over 0.7C when it comes to lithium ion batteries. If a charge rate of 1850ma is recommended, then why do all chargers top out at 1A?
I collect high performance flashlights, most of them use lithium ion cells. I know about charging and discharging li-ion otherwise I could lose my hands.
Anyway, the point of this thread was about the stock USB cable vs other cables. The only thing I can think of at the moment is that my LG cable has more resistance than the Samsung cable, which is why it charges slower. Though that's hard to believe is the charging time is more than double.
doug36: I've seen you post in other threads, all you like to do is insult people, or at least try to. This is the last time I'm gonna post in this thread, you keep posting irrelevant information. Next, you're going to try to insult me, I'm not going to respond, and you're going to think you won or whatever, I don't care.
If anyone wants more info, or has any questions, please send me a PM.
JaZart said:
Haha well I may be in trouble. I use several different friends, co workers chargers everyday.
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Eww... everyone hits and quits it? XD
I've noticed that the charger that comes with the S2 has a special hook on one side and looks distinctly different than other usb micro cables.
Personally i think it's really dumb.. wasn't the point of micro Usb to be uniform across all phones?!
Sounds like a good way for Samsung to make some extra bucks.
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I've noticed that the charger that comes with the S2 has a special hook on one side and looks distinctly different than other usb micro cables.
Personally i think it's really dumb.. wasn't the point of micro Usb to be uniform across all phones?!
Sounds like a good way for Samsung to make some extra bucks.
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I was curious about this two. What makes the included charger official...the brick or the cable out both
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I have no idea, all I know is that i tried to use my charger for my G2X and the SGSII wouldn't go past 95% charged? I used the Samsung charger and it charges perfectly?
Well lately my stock samsung charger has been terrible.
Even when I plug it into the wall it charges so slowly that if im below 15%; it will die
When left alone or charging while off for about 45min it will have up about 2-5%; so there's a major problem here.
But using a different charger and it charges at a faster(normal pace); 5% to 65% in appox 1 hour.
JaZart said:
Well lately my stock samsung charger has been terrible.
Even when I plug it into the wall it charges so slowly that if im below 15%; it will die
When left alone or charging while off for about 45min it will have up about 2-5%; so there's a major problem here.
But using a different charger and it charges at a faster(normal pace); 5% to 65% in appox 1 hour.
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That's normal? :O mine takes about 4 hours from red battery.
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Has anyone noticed that if you turn the phone off..or let the battery die to 0% and then turn itself off. If you then plug it into an LG usb cable it will put the phone into download mode.
This works every single time with my g2x cable.
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hox & fast chargers

Is it safe to use a 2.1a 5v usb charger with the hox?
Will it speed the charging? (Stock charger takes 4 hours to charge!!)
Doorman404 said:
Is it safe to use a 2.1a 5v usb charger with the hox?
Will it speed the charging? (Stock charger takes 4 hours to charge!!)
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It's safe, but it won't speed it up.
so 4 hours charge is normal? (With the stock charger)
I dunno, never timed it, but charging a LiPoly battery faster than that can shorten its life, and since its not removable, that would be a pain.
Doorman404 said:
Is it safe to use a 2.1a 5v usb charger with the hox?
Will it speed the charging? (Stock charger takes 4 hours to charge!!)
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As Ben
said should be safe but won't speed up
Doorman404 said:
so 4 hours charge is normal? (With the stock charger)
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kinda think there is a bit threads about that too. Yeah takes too long....
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I dunno, never timed it, but charging a LiPoly battery faster than that can shorten its life, and since its not removable, that would be a pain.
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One additional thing. Learned that the hard way.
Bought a HTC car charger. HTC supplied cable to that HTC car charger. Original HTC car charger on this charger sucked... despite showing AC charging
So look first when you charge if it says USB charging or AC. And then check how long it does to charger. Change the cable to the original one supplied with the phone if it's more as on that original stock charger
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Well charging doesn't have 100% efficiency so a 1a charger won't charge at 1a, so a higher charger means you should get to the 1a limit but it's not going to reduce charging times enough to notice.
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treebill said:
Well charging doesn't have 100% efficiency so a 1a charger won't charge at 1a, so a higher charger means you should get to the 1a limit but it's not going to reduce charging times enough to notice.
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A charger rated at output of 1A should be capable of outputting at 1A. Of course, it will draw a little more power from the input than it provides to the output.
When charging, during the first phase (constant current) the maximum current draw is typically around 1A, for up to about an hour, then it drops off quite quickly when it moves to the second phase of constant voltage.

samsung's charger with 2.0A. can i use it for sgs3?

I got an original Samsung charger, looks just like the original charger I have for the SGS3 (same shape, cable & everything).
only difference is the output on it is 2.0A, while the output for my charger is 1.0A.
will it make a difference if i use this charger for my SGS3? just in case it can blowup the phone or something
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I got an original Samsung charger, looks just like the original charger I have for the SGS3 (same shape, cable & everything).
only difference is the output on it is 2.0A, while the output for my charger is 1.0A.
will it make a difference if i use this charger for my SGS3? just in case it can blowup the phone or something
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No problem if the output is Always 5V.
2.0A only means the max power the Charger can send out. If the phone request max 1.0A, then the charger give it 1.0A. No difference in charging time, no difference at all.:good:
666pluto said:
I got an original Samsung charger, looks just like the original charger I have for the SGS3 (same shape, cable & everything).
only difference is the output on it is 2.0A, while the output for my charger is 1.0A.
will it make a difference if i use this charger for my SGS3? just in case it can blowup the phone or something
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Well my fellow Israeli, I'm using 2.0A and it's been great so far.
Bought it in a "private store" and they gave me a 0.7 A charger. So after moving from 0.7A to 2.0A it did made a noticeable difference.
By the way, the 1.0A limit can be changed with a custom Kernel. Such as*Boeffla Kernel.
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Better than the stock S3 charger. I'm using 2.1A charger. Charges up my S3 so fast. It charges 65% in 20 mins
QIQgame said:
Well my fellow Israeli, I'm using 2.0A and it's been great so far.
Bought it in a "private store" and they gave me a 0.7 A charger. So after moving from 0.7A to 2.0A it did made a noticeable difference.
By the way, the 1.0A limit can be changed with a custom Kernel. Such as*Boeffla Kernel.
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about the limit change, is it safe to play with such an option? didn't they place this limit for a reason?
but out of interest, how much faster can you make it charge if you change the limit?
Fast charging your battery is very similar to overclocking your cores. If it draws higher amperage and the temperature goes up it will shorten the life of the battery. Slower charging keeps the temperature low and lengthens battery lifespan.
Fast charge w/ High amps = High temps, charges fast, & shortens battery lifespan
Normal charge = Low temps, normal charge speed, & longer battery lifespan
Bottom-line, if you don't mind getting a new battery and want to charge your phone quickly, enable fast charge.
666pluto said:
about the limit change, is it safe to play with such an option? didn't they place this limit for a reason?
but out of interest, how much faster can you make it charge if you change the limit?
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I agree with my friend up above me.
pretty sure that over heating your battery will degrade the battery's chemicals & with time your maximum capacity will decrease.
My personal routine is using another 2 Zero Lemon spare batteries with their external slow charger (0.6 A).
always got a spare in my wallet and it is saved from a possible "memory effect" syndrome which shouldn't be excited in lithium ion batteries, but a recent study by a Japanese guy shows signs of a memory effect.
No idea how much time I save by fast charging. I'll time it next charge for you.
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Where can i get this charger?
Hey guys,
can you tell me, where i can get this 2A-charger for my S3? Preferably with a german plug...
Regards
Clark
Clark789 said:
Hey guys,
can you tell me, where i can get this 2A-charger for my S3? Preferably with a german plug...
Regards
Clark
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there's no 2A charger for the S3. the one i have was originally for note 2 or something, i forgot. but you can charge the S3 with it...
if you have a regular 1A charger, then don't worry about it, it's the same basically
S3 is coded in the kernel to only charge at 1000ma.
You can override these settings with some kernels, but I wouldn't. Frying charging circuits are quite annoying.
It's for the S4. Note 2 chargers were black like ours.
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How many amps will the G4 draw when charging at 5V?

I know this phone is Quick Charge 2 capable, but does that apply only to high voltage charging, or also to standard 5V?
I ask because I bought a 3.1A charger, and though the phone was almost dead, it didn't charge any faster than the 1.8A charger that came with the phone. Is the charger defective, or will this phone just not draw 3.1A at 5V?
QC2.0 is 9V at 1.2-1.3A.
Normal 5V is at around 1.7-1.9A only.
It will not draw anything more than what's above. FWIW, IMO, QC2.0 doesn't make a huge difference
lambstone said:
QC2.0 is 9V at 1.2-1.3A.
Normal 5V is at around 1.7-1.9A only.
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Thanks. So QC is only a protocol for changing voltages, it has nothing to do with negotiating or handling a higher current draw?
fenstre said:
Thanks. So QC is only a protocol for changing voltages, it has nothing to do with negotiating or handling a higher current draw?
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QC is a protocol for allowing a maximum possible current draw at a predefined voltage. Just because you have a higher possible current supply from a charger it doesn't mean that the G4 will draw more.
E.g. G4 can only draw 1.8A a 5V. If you use a 1A charger, it can only draw 1A but if you use a 2A charger it will only be able to draw 1.8A and not the full 2A.
This phone is **** at charging 1% every 3mins at best. I'm at 44% 23 degrees Celsius and it says 2hour 4min to 100%. Ampere shows its only drawing 480ma on a 2A charger. Three cables.. Note 4 cable, Stock cable and a high quality third-party cable all the same. The cables work fine as they charge to Note 4 quick and a Tab 3.
I give up. I even put this LG poss on ICE to 18 degrees Celsius but still same crap. Night charging for me then. Even Note 4 quick charger can't help it.
Nice phone for sure but I'm going back to Samsung next upgrade, sorry LG.
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skyelm said:
This phone is **** at charging 1% every 3mins at best. I'm at 44% 23 degrees Celsius and it says 2hour 4min to 100%. Ampere shows its only drawing 480ma on a 2A charger. Three cables.. Note 4 cable, Stock cable and a high quality third-party cable all the same. The cables work fine as they charge to Note 4 quick and a Tab 3.
I give up. I even put this LG poss on ICE to 18 degrees Celsius but still same crap. Night charging for me then. Even Note 4 quick charger can't help it.
Nice phone for sure but I'm going back to Samsung next upgrade, sorry LG.
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Laters.
skyelm said:
This phone is **** at charging 1% every 3mins at best. I'm at 44% 23 degrees Celsius and it says 2hour 4min to 100%. Ampere shows its only drawing 480ma on a 2A charger. Three cables.. Note 4 cable, Stock cable and a high quality third-party cable all the same. The cables work fine as they charge to Note 4 quick and a Tab 3.
I give up. I even put this LG poss on ICE to 18 degrees Celsius but still same crap. Night charging for me then. Even Note 4 quick charger can't help it.
Nice phone for sure but I'm going back to Samsung next upgrade, sorry LG.
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What. You're using a **** charger. Get a proper charger. I know because I've tried mine on a **** charger, a Samsung Charger and an ASUS QC2.0 Charger. Nobody has the problems but you.
lambstone said:
What. You're using a **** charger. Get a proper charger. I know because I've tried mine on a **** charger, a Samsung Charger and an ASUS QC2.0 Charger. Nobody has the problems but you.
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Ok... Note 4 charger, Tab 3 charger and Stock charger all sh#t chargers? Hmmmm OK.
My supposed sh#t chargers work fine on other phones. I guess i bought a sh#t phone. Anyway love the phone hate the charging. Cheers
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Proper cable. Settled:good:
skyelm said:
I guess i bought a sh#t phone.
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It does sound defective, unfortunately. Mine charges at up to 1%/minute, and that's without a QC 2.0 charger.
I use LG stock charger and a third party 2.1A charger to charge, Ampere shows that it has around 1000 mah. Apart from the charger, the charging cable quality do affect the result too. Try to swap cable and test again.
IMOļ¹stock charger with 5V 1.8A can charge quite fast with 2+ hours to fully charged from 0 to 100%, no need to go for QC2.0.
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I have found that my Original Samsung 2.1A charger sucks for the G4. Somehow it knows its a Samsung and doesnt want to provide anything over 1A. That charger charges at 2A my Galaxy S4. It takes like 3-4 hours to full charge from under 15%.
My LG G4 charges fkn fast with the original one and a Tronsmart QC charger. 1% every minute.

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