I am looking for some feedback. I am currently working on T-Mobile 4g/LTE network upgrade in the NY Metro Market. There is only a couple of sites in NY where LTE is actually turned on. We are building like crazy in NY, the sites are integrated with LTE but 99% are not turned on.
But I was wondering if anyone is currently using the ZL with T-mobile in the NY Metro market. What kind of speeds are you getting and how is the service? I have another 2 months with ATT before my contract ends. And i was considering this option.
sadly I live in manhattan ny still no lte for me.
so as u siad u work for tmobile 4g/lte upgrade network
do u know how soon lte will turn on in manhattan?
I have been doing nothing but Manhattan site for the past month. I joined 6 months after they started. Tmobile is making a big push for NYC. I havent heard yet when they plan to turn on LTE. I think they want to complete a majority of Manhattan site before turning it on. We have been doing the outer boroughs but not to the same extent of Manhattan.
Hows the service now that you have? Have you noticed at least a speed increase and better coverage?
Speed for me right now are same like before
Here is speed test.I just can't wait LTE.
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Speed for me right now are same like before
Here is speed test.I just can't wait LTE.
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Those speeds are nice, better then my ATT. Hows the coverage? And service?
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Those speeds are nice, better then my ATT. Hows the coverage? And service?
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coverage and service all good
I haven't any problem with that.
Yesterday was the first time I got LTE in NYC. It was on the subway platform so the signal is likely to be stronger. On both Columbus Circle and Rockefeller Center stops i got 5 bars of LTE. I got an average of 14 down, 3.5 up and 40ms ping.
I'm on the $30 Walmart T-Mob plan so i'm pretty happy to see you get LTE on that plan as well.
I work a few blocks from Rockefeller. I'm only getting 2-5 Mbps down, ~10 Mbps up. I don't know what happened lately overall with T-Mobile's LTE speeds. I know in Manhattan, it's crowded and there's a lot of stress on the network. But in my neighborhood (Bay Ridge, Brooklyn), I used to be able to pull down 25 Mbps on my Note 2. Now it's around 5-9 Mbps on LTE.
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just curious what everyone gets as far as tmobile speed? As i just came from at&t which i was getting great speeds of 2-3 megabits. i switched to tmobile and my speeds suck in 3g areas(note HSPA+ is not available here yet) I dont really get the H signal much which sucks when it does get rolled out in my area. I am curious thos when it does will i see increase in my 3g speeds even? also what kind of speeds are you all getting?
i am currently in 3g/h never gotten more than 512-600 kilobits....
like i said i just came from at&t nexus one and man these speeds are reallly killing me i like the phone but just dont think i can handle these low speeds! will i see an increase even in 3g areas when it is rolled out? and what are your alls speeds. to summarize. Also when it does get rolled out will they expand it any or just where it is now will get better speeds?
sorry for wall of text and jabbering on!
In Charr I pull a steady 5mbps down
it all depends on which tower your receiving from bc that tower could not been upgraded completely yet
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In Charr I pull a steady 5mbps down
it all depends on which tower your receiving from bc that tower could not been upgraded completely yet
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so then im guessing you are in there "4g" area?
also when you are in a 3g area do you notice a speed boost? or do they upgrade all towers to hspa+ so what once was 3g is not "4g"?
Check my signature - that's about average for me at my house... Elsewhere around the county I get around 5MB download...
Upload is always maxed at 600kb.
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so then im guessing you are in there "4g" area?
also when you are in a 3g area do you notice a speed boost? or do they upgrade all towers to hspa+ so what once was 3g is not "4g"?
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yea but i noticed once im out of 4g areas my speeds drop in half but i always get like 1.2mbps up
does anyone know if when they upgraded towers they noticed more 3g areas 4g? or was it already the 4g areas just got that speed boost?
January of this year when I first signed on with T-Mobile I only had EDGE speeds anywhere in this county. They upgraded to 3G probably in March. I was seeing H showing up on my phone around the same time but the fastest downloads I was getting anywhere was only around 3MB. When I got a Vibrant (July) I saw the speeds slowly creep up to 5MB almost everywhere.
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January of this year when I first signed on with T-Mobile I only had EDGE speeds anywhere in this county. They upgraded to 3G probably in March. I was seeing H showing up on my phone around the same time but the fastest downloads I was getting anywhere was only around 3MB. When I got a Vibrant (July) I saw the speeds slowly creep up to 5MB almost everywhere.
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thats pretty good i wish i was getting those speeds on 3g! thank you for info!
I get around 3mbps on 3g and as high as 7mbps on "4G" with an average of around 5-6mbps
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I get around 3mbps on 3g and as high as 7mbps on "4G" with an average of around 5-6mbps
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did you have tmobile before they upgraded you to 4g? what 3g speeds were you getting then?
I'm getting about 5mbps average with a peak of 8mbps
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So with Sprints current network and their future network vision, what are your opinions and thoughts as far as carrier reliability and/or will you be leaving for better signal?
Sprint is not getting much better ... For a major carrier they are the slowest.. Even metro is faster and thats sad to say.. I think they cap the data cause they offer unlimited and call it 3g ..but its really 2g/edge on unlimited so of course they can afford to give 2g unlimited...
Ill be leaving after a yr or so... Im gonna wait and see how there 4g pans out in 2012
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It sucks, I spend more time roaming on verizon than I do on Sprint's network.
The last thing I am is "the Forum police" but how is this related to the E4GT?
I pretty sure you should reqest to have this moved to the Forum>>General area.
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So with Sprints current network and their future network vision, what are your opinions and thoughts as far as carrier reliability and/or will you be leaving for better signal?
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looks like you already have your mind made up and decided to make a thread to create a further ***** session
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Honestly it depends on the location when it comes to reliability...As for speed, any cdma carrier right now is about the same in terms of 3G speeds. I do not feel that Sprint caps their 3G data at all. In Seattle I get anywhere from 500k-1.2mb, which is about the same as any of my Verizon friends on 3G. Only reason T-mobile and AT&T are ahead is because they invested in HSDPA+ which is like 3.5G.
I have a super cheap plan so I will ride it out. As long as I can stream my prog rock audio podcasts I am happy. Los Angeles radio is truly crappy.
And to appease the police, my E4GT is awesome.
Coming from Tmobile, the sprint network sucks! I just signed my contract 2 or 3 weeks ago and while I have yet to have any call quality issues, my data is horrible here in Orlando,Fl the 4G is beyond spotty and the 3G is laughable. that being said with the price that I pay for my monthly I can't complain...
It's pretty much impossible to just make a generalization about a carriers data speeds. You should just look up coverage and speeds between the carriers in your area and areas that you might frequent since those are really the only numbers that matter.
I get 1.25mbps down on 3g and around 7.5 mbps down on 4g in chicago.
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It's pretty much impossible to just make a generalization about a carriers data speeds. You should just look up coverage and speeds between the carriers in your area and areas that you might frequent since those are really the only numbers that matter.
I get 1.25mbps down on 3g and around 7.5 mbps down on 4g in chicago.
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Exactly.
This is not an opinion topic.
Its all dependent on your area.
I know that companies like Verizon have convinced you via commercials that they're 373748484mbit/s everywhere but that's just not the case.
Find the network that best suits your area and your needs and go to them.
On long island it sucks beyond belief lately. Things seem to have gone down hill for me. I am always roaming when at some locations at work or if I'm visiting a location I usually have unusable 3g.
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I also just switched from t-mobile, I use to get 5mb on tmobile 3g, now i get around 1mb average on sprint. 4g on the other hand I'd a different story, the fastest i ever got was 11.40mb and an average of about 8mb in San Diego county. I hope they improve their 3g coverage or roll out more 4g to more locations.
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I have cell phone service with AT&T (iPhone 4S), Verizon (Soon to be Galaxy Nexus) and now Sprint, again (Epic 4G Touch)... All unlimited data plans. I'm data HUNGRY!
After my departure from Sprint in 2008, I wanted to give Sprint another go around. I am very surprised that the customer service is still horrible! The 4G network is very inconsistent, too many disconnects. 3G is very slow, pulling 800k max on a strong signal. Over all, looks like this 2 day Epic 4G Touch is going back and good by Sprint for the second time!
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Anybody else living in the inland Empire experiencing horrible sprint service? I've looked at there towers and noticed, they don't have much here. Sometimes 3g data speed is so slow it takes ages just to load Google home page :/ any input would be helpful. I don't know if it's my modem affecting the data speeds or if it's the service.
Where are you? By inland empire, do you mean the great plains of the America (Empire)?
Can you do a speedtest and show what you're getting?
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Where are you? By inland empire, do you mean the great plains of the America (Empire)?
Can you do a speedtest and show what you're getting?
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Pretty sure it's in California
Yes inland Empire in California. Any of you experiencing bad service? I go to school in Ontario and I get phenomenal 4G speeds. But I'm at school so I'm not always able to do what I want on my phone. After School I go home in Moreno Valley, and the service there is just horrible.. Almost to the point where I want to cancel my 2 year agreement. And I have been a loyal sprint customer for 8 years.
I live in the LA area and i get good speeds everywhere except in my house i dont get 4g and 3g is like dial up for me. Check out my speedtest below. I have wifi in my house so ehh no biggy.
The phone is so awesome
Im willing to wait for LTE to start spreading in LA i still got along time before i can upgrade so in the mean time i can deal wth it sprint unlimited is why im here and no longer with Tmobile.
travel to Long Beach frequently, and my 3g is actually fairly decent. around 300-600 kbps? thats 2x faster than what im getting in phoenix... i hope its not getting bad as part of Network Vision, heading that way in 2 weeks...
I live in the I.E. and yes sprint has horrible coverage in alot of places. That's the reason I got a airwave free for my home,cuz I get almost no service otherwise. If you look at the tower upgrade thing it says my area is gonna get a few enhancements over the next 6 months. So you should check your area and see if moval or the cities/places you frequent have planned upgrades before you cancel
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Alright I will. Airwave? You got an Airwave free for your home? Please explain this.... I'm a little confused, what is that? and 6 months of superrrrrr slow service is a lifetime.. I need my E4GT. :/
I don't think and Airrave will help with data issues.
Do you have good voice reception?
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Anybody else living in the inland Empire experiencing horrible sprint service? I've looked at there towers and noticed, they don't have much here. Sometimes 3g data speed is so slow it takes ages just to load Google home page :/ any input would be helpful. I don't know if it's my modem affecting the data speeds or if it's the service.
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Ya my wife and I both get pretty crappy service in Riverside. I was just in La this last weekend and was so envious of the 4g and the full bars of 3g I had! I'm lucky to pull 2-3 bars most of the time
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I don't think and Airrave will help with data issues.
Do you have good voice reception?
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Yes I get good voice reception, do you mind filling me in on what that is? I usually have data off when I go home. Cause there's no point at all having it on if it takes 5mins to load just the Google home page. When I'm in Ontario I have phenomenal 3g and 4G speeds. But once I hit Moval it just takes a dump. It's very very aggravating..
I live in corona and get ok speed.. Im usually hooked up to wifi .. When im not i get ok speed..
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i live in the IE and 3g service is alright not as fast as i wish but its not that bad well atleast for me and their is no 4g here but once i step into ontario area or go more west im able to get 4g which the speed is good.
its not dial up so you should try updating your prl, modem
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Cali +1 from the DIEGO to THE BAY no other place like it.
I live in Riverside and I have two bars in my house and around Riverside, Moreno valley and San bernardino I get full bars everywhere and average 1.1 mbps on 3G
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I live in the Inland Empire (Hemet) I am cancelling my Sprint Service because of the ungodly Data speeds. frequently 200kbps or less. I'm moving over to T-Mobile. I called Sprint the other day to ask what my ETF fee would be. The representative started arguing with me about T-mobiles fake 4G and how its not a real solution. I came back with two things first "What 4g? I dont have any 4g where I live. I don't even have 3g. The speeds I am getting are Edge speeds" and then Secondly "T-Mobiles fake 4g is real and tangible now. Its also faster then any 4g speeds I have ever clocked on sprint in Brea, Long Beach, Sacramento, Chicago and Manhattan. The question is, "Fake 4g Now or Real 4g Never?"
My friend has a Comet (Google it, its a pathetic entry level android phone) he is able to get consistent 2.5Mbps down anywhere in my town. Also a Coworker has the Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile. Clocking around 14Mbps on T-Mobiles fake 4g network. I never saw more then 7 on Sprints 4G, Ever.
The Airave is a joke. You essentially turn your internet into a cell tower. think about this.... you pay sprint for service that you provide yourself by using the internet that YOU pay for...... hmmm seems like a cop out for them to offer that as a fix all for their poor towers.
I use to love Sprint back in the days of the Hero. When I could easily get 1.2 Mbps down anywhere I went. I dont know if they are just overloaded in the area, or the towers are in need of some TLC but I just cant take it anymore. GSM here I come.
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I live in the Inland Empire (Hemet) I am cancelling my Sprint Service because of the ungodly Data speeds. frequently 200kbps or less. I'm moving over to T-Mobile. I called Sprint the other day to ask what my ETF fee would be. The representative started arguing with me about T-mobiles fake 4G and how its not a real solution. I came back with two things first "What 4g? I dont have any 4g where I live. I don't even have 3g. The speeds I am getting are Edge speeds" and then Secondly "T-Mobiles fake 4g is real and tangible now. Its also faster then any 4g speeds I have ever clocked on sprint in Brea, Long Beach, Sacramento, Chicago and Manhattan. The question is, "Fake 4g Now or Real 4g Never?"
My friend has a Comet (Google it, its a pathetic entry level android phone) he is able to get consistent 2.5Mbps down anywhere in my town. Also a Coworker has the Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile. Clocking around 14Mbps on T-Mobiles fake 4g network. I never saw more then 7 on Sprints 4G, Ever.
The Airave is a joke. You essentially turn your internet into a cell tower. think about this.... you pay sprint for service that you provide yourself by using the internet that YOU pay for...... hmmm seems like a cop out for them to offer that as a fix all for their poor towers.
I use to love Sprint back in the days of the Hero. When I could easily get 1.2 Mbps down anywhere I went. I dont know if they are just overloaded in the area, or the towers are in need of some TLC but I just cant take it anymore. GSM here I come.
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Ya I know what you mean. I have friends here in Moval and they have Verizon and T mobile and they get great service. Haven't asked them on the 4G service though. I did some research on the towers and noticed there aren't many sprint towers here.. They're all towards the west... :/ LA being the best spot for 4G... Wish I lived there.
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i live in the IE and 3g service is alright not as fast as i wish but its not that bad well atleast for me and their is no 4g here but once i step into ontario area or go more west im able to get 4g which the speed is good.
its not dial up so you should try updating your prl, modem
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Cali +1 from the DIEGO to THE BAY no other place like it.
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I just remembered that.. I went flash crazy this month.. And forgot to update my PRL. I've always read that it's good to do that after flashing a rom. And about the modem.. I'm on El29. So far that I know it's the latest and "greatest" modem SO far.. Sorry for the noob question.... But what EXACTLY is PRL. And why should we update it after flashing a rom?
About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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1-3mbps is pretty normal for me indoors with 2-3 bars of signal, with 4-5 or so outdoors with better signal. I can only pull down those crazy numbers of 10+ with HSPA+ late at night when the towers aren't as busy. I'm in a small town, but we've had HSPA+ for a good year or more now (heck, I was on Verizon when it was switched on, so I don't know exactly how long...). Maybe your network is still getting upgraded / installed and the process isn't done yet?
I'm on the T-mobile $30 plan, by the way. I've heard AT&T's HSPA+ can be significantly slower in some places, so that may be part of it?
if they just rolled out the towers a month ago and upgraded to HSPA+, I'm not at all surprised by those speeds.
Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
For an area that just now got hspa turned on when the rest of the country is getting LTE, those speeds you are describing seem perfectly normal.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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True, location also plays a big role.
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I would be happy to get 6Mb down with AT&T in Austin. Max is about 3.1Mbps which I think is crap since we know it is capable of more. Interestingly, AT&T LTE in the same areas rock!
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Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
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Well that's also because T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42mbps deployed, and devices that can make use of it. Most AT&T devices are at best 21mbps capable, and not all of their towers are.
Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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"4g" in quotes, and OP specifically is talking about AT&T.
I'll have to run speedtest some more when I'm out of town and see what kind of numbers I can get. I would be interested to see what speeds a 3G phone gets in the same region as my "4G" Gnex (HSPA+ via AT&T, not LTE via Verizon).
So I've been thinking to switching to TMO to save $$$. Was wondering how the coverage is in the Bay Area?
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Doesn't tmobile have a coverage map on their site ?
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Doesn't tmobile have a coverage map on their site ?
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I know their coverage area but I would still like to hear from folks that are on TMO that live in the Bay Area? Is there something funny on wanting to know that?
I live in Mountain View, work in Fremont. Usually in the San Jose area. Had AT&T before, I now like T-mobile's coverage better.
You wouldn't believe how congested AT&T's traffic is in the area until you try someone else. I now know. I even have LTE disabled (only gsm/wcdma auto) and the speed seems to be smoother and faster than AT&T LTE.
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I live in Mountain View, work in Fremont. Usually in the San Jose area. Had AT&T before, I now like T-mobile's coverage better.
You wouldn't believe how congested AT&T's traffic is in the area until you try someone else. I now know. I even have LTE disabled (only gsm/wcdma auto) and the speed seems to be smoother and faster than AT&T LTE.
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i second this
im in mountain view;
3 days ago i moved over 3 lines to tmobile from att.
1 line unlimited, 1 line 2GB and 1 line 500mb.
$100 a month.
have not looked back.
**** you AT&T
**** you.
I'm in SF, just switched from Sprint...TMO's basic 3G coverage is better/faster than Sprint's 4G LTE.
Same price, better coverage, faster speed.
I live in San Jose and work in Fremont. Have friends in Santa Clara, Campbell, Cupertino. 4g speeds is good and get them almost everywhere I go, and get LTE in some of those areas I mentioned besides Fremont. My house however has been degraded to bout 2mbps or less and still no LTE. The only bad thing about Tmobile is that building penetration in some buildings isn't great like inside Target or some lounge like Temple. Overall very happy. I had Sprint for 9 years an dont regret leaving them.
EDIT: I got my s4 today and its picking up LTE where I work (fremont) but my note 2 does not. I think with the s4s better radio you will be happy when you switch.
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I live in San Jose and work in Fremont. Have friends in Santa Clara, Campbell, Cupertino. 4g speeds is good and get them almost everywhere I go, and get LTE in some of those areas I mentioned besides Fremont. My house however has been degraded to bout 2mbps or less and still no LTE. The only bad thing about Tmobile is that building penetration in some buildings isn't great like inside Target or some lounge like Temple. Overall very happy. I had Sprint for 9 years an dont regret leaving them.
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I live in Sunnyvale and work in San Jose, i get healthy LTE coverage in both areas. I've gotten it in Mountain View, but further up the peninsula and the east bay still doesn't receive LTE. I'm getting as high as 40Mbps down at home. Absolutely no complains since my Sprint was like dial-up in comparison.
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I live in Sunnyvale and work in San Jose, i get healthy LTE coverage in both areas. I've gotten it in Mountain View, but further up the peninsula and the east bay still doesn't receive LTE. I'm getting as high as 40Mbps down at home. Absolutely no complains since my Sprint was like dial-up in comparison.
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dude, SERIOUSLY. Sprint's best-case speeds were still single-digits on LTE (here in SF, anyway). There's definitely a place for dial-up speed but they should at least give you sound effects like you're connecting over phone lines: beep, beep, booooooop, SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEECH!, beep, pop, pop, beeeeeeeeeeeeep.
Just depends where you are at in the bay. Driving along 280 heading south signal will go in and out because of the mountains. If you're near or in SF you're golden. I'm in the Penn and i typically get 4g 90% of the time. With the S4 I get much better reception then with previous phones.
This is what I would do. Port your number to t-mobile. You will have 14 days to return the device and cancel your service. Call t-mobile to confirm this just incase since they have the uncarrier plan now. You will pay for what you've used obviously. This will in turn cancel your sprint service and Sprint will charge you ETF if you're still under contract. But they give you I believe a month or I think more to come back and will give you a full refund on the ETF. You can call them to confirm this too just in case they changed their policy. Once your number is ported (took a few minutes for me) Try to go to as many places even inside buildings and see if reception is good enough for you within those 14 days. If your not happy go back to Sprint and get your ETF back. I can guarantee you though that you won't go back.
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