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T-Mobile 42Mbps?? Yeah right.

Is anyone pulling higher speeds then 700Kb a second on T-mobile's network? I am in Jacksonville, FL where apparently T-Mobile has recently upgraded the network to 42Mbps. I know that the G2 does not support that top speed, but I figure I should be getting better than 5Mbps when they are advertising 42Mbps.

G1ForFun said:
Is anyone pulling higher speeds then 700Kb a second on T-mobile's network? I am in Jacksonville, FL where apparently T-Mobile has recently upgraded the network to 42Mbps. I know that the G2 does not support that top speed, but I figure I should be getting better than 5Mbps when they are advertising 42Mbps.
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Its all BS, look @ the G2x the highest anyone got was 12mbps and its a 21mbps device as tmo advertised it. And those are the speeds we should be getting on the G2, not even 12 we should be getting even 10mbps, and the highest I've gotten was 9 and was just once in tampa florida, in NY the highest was 8
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androidfeen809 said:
Its all BS, look @ the G2x the highest anyone got was 12mbps and its a 21mbps device as tmo advertised it. And those are the speeds we should be getting on the G2, not even 12 we should be getting even 10mbps, and the highest I've gotten was 9 and was just once in tampa florida, in NY the highest was 8
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Thanks....its good to know I am not the only one.
If its to good to be true then it probably is.

You're getting better speeds than I am. I normally get around 2-3 or 4 Mbps here in socal. A few weeks ago I was getting speeds of 5-8 Mbps before they turned on the 42Mbps. And I'm on the new Tmo radio too.

Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.

carsenj said:
Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.
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I see nothing wrong with this thread. I'm not even close to what the G2 should be capable of.
Average down for me here in Sac, CA is 3.9 Mbps.

carsenj said:
Are you guys seriously complaining about something like this. Do you get on your internet service provider because they say you have 20mbs which I can almost guarantee you clock no where near that on a regular basis? The speeds advertised are all theoretical. Basically in the perfect conditions with no other traffic on the network you could attain the advertised speed. Our phones are actually not capable of the new speeds. They are only capable of the original hspa+ speeds that are advertised as 21mbs and lower. The new devices that they have for mifi and what not are the only ones that can use the new 42mbs. Go to any other carrier and you will find the same result. Its called marketing (4g anyone) and it will be around longer then you and I.
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To me, it's not complaining, but more observing. Especially when, my case I was getting better speeds a few weeks ago compared to now. I understand that more people on the network means more draw and therefore lower speeds. However, one would assume that if a carrier comes out with better service/speeds that older devices would benefit, even though they obviously aren't built for it. I think what's happening here is the same that's been going on, at least with T-Mobile, for the last few years: They come out with higher speeds and the new stuff can take advantage until they get a heavier load and then it suffers until they update the back-haul.
Besides, even though XDA is a technology forum site, it's the General and Q&A subforums like this that make it so people are allowed to have a conversation like this, of which I'm grateful. It could get pretty boring just being limited to just talking about ROMs.

uhh?
if this thread is cause of LATELY my G2 Speeds just got LOW AS HEK,than I'm in them 'Complaints".
for some reason out of nowhere, my speeds have gotten super low...like EDGE speeds. I have 4g icon/H icon and it still running like its on edge.
Market apps downloads takes up to 30 minutes to finish and it only works good on wi-fi.
I've changed my ROMS,KERNELS, & Radios and still LOW SPEEDS.
This has bin goin' on for about..a week and a half now..
anyone else experiencing massive low speeds?
Thanks.

What is the new tmobile radio?
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I pull between 6Mbps and 10Mbps. Just ran test and it was 9.38 down and 1.3 up
Oh and the "upgraded speeds" are only available in 55 markets...not every state in the union
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T-mobile 3G speed is sloooooooow.
But I have no choice and have to keep using it cause I have one of those very old low price family plan that are no longer offered to new customer.

Spastic909 said:
I pull between 6Mbps and 10Mbps. Just ran test and it was 9.38 down and 1.3 up
Oh and the "upgraded speeds" are only available in 55 markets...not every state in the union
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I get these speeds as well, all over Dallas. It's great!

Not again..
Fellas those speeds are only supported by the tmobile rocket right now.. As advertised.. Not any android device or cellphone.
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misbehave said:
T-mobile 3G speed is sloooooooow.
But I have no choice and have to keep using it cause I have one of those very old low price family plan that are no longer offered to new customer.
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I don't think you should be locked on 3g....did you try switching radios or wiping the efs?
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Lol you all should be lucky. I'm just outside the 3g/4g area (Kansas city/olathe/lawrence) so I'm stuck on the beautiful EDGE in Leavenworth. Soooooooooo slooooooooow
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I'm getting 2mb/1.4mb in the Anaheim, CA area, close to disneyland (i'm on vacation) and I currently have about 5.5GBs transferred for the month.
I will update again when I get home in a few days. (Portland, OR) I have been getting about 9mb/5mb there on a regular basis.
And for those of you who are having really slow 4G speeds, you might be getting throttled by tmobile for too much data usage.

T-Mobile vs Sprint GS2 SpeedTest

For what its worth did a little download test about 10 sites.
Cleared cache. Both had very good signal. I'm on 4G of course.All browser settings identical.
And...yep...Epic was faster 9 out of 10 sites, usually by quite a bit.
And I'm no 'Homer'...actually pushed TMobile a split sec faster to make sure.!

That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)

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That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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I'd rather get that kind of 3g speed then have 4g IMO. 4g kills the battery
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WOW, 2.3 down on 3G
id take that any day over 4G, especially if it was consistent
but im not complaining I can pull 3 down in my office, and 2 down in my house...just have to stay still lol
it kills the battery, but my 3G is in the 300K range---

in the dallas area 3g speeds suck all around ... limited to 300 500kbps
4g is awesome u get 2 3mbits easy

Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.

Yeah I don't know what's happened to 3G here.
When I had the Evo 4G...Chicago had a big surge here...like AVERAGING 2500kbps on 3g.
Was poorer on the Evo 3D days but not too bad.
Now (with Epic) it averages 600 or so here.
All I can say is....if there is a surge of IPhone buyers coming in they are going to.be monumentally dissapointed in data speeds!
Whatya thinkin Sprint?
I remain on 4G here...(have a MiFi unit in my bag which helps!). Almost always run 4M average on either 4G or WiFi MiFi.

dallastx said:
You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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Holy crap I wish I could just get 3000mbps on any ISP or phone. can you imagine No Lag, streaming instant.
Hell just going to click on anything on the website would seem to just pop up on screen as if the computer read my mind.

I used to be on att I had a Motorola atrix and ranged 3.5 to 6mb download.
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This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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dallastx said:
You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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I think I literally have a tower in my back yard.
Edit: when my Comcast goes out, I use the phone for tether on xbox and it streams in 720p lol!
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Ok Einstein....never said it reflected GLOBALLY. Why so irritated?!
It WAS a data transfer test of Wimax vs TMobile HSDP++ of 10 sites I use for 'testing'. Connected to respected networks...not Wifi. (WiFi isn't a network test).
Both had superb signal strength. Both with identical browser conditions.
I suspect if I took both deep inside a building Wimax would not fair as well.
U OK now?
LxMxFxD said:
This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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what speeds are you getting? I'm on T-mobile sgs2 n get constant 10mbps n peak at 18 at sacramento CA area

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Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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LxMxFxD said:
This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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dont like your approach, but totally agree with the message. There are places where tmobile is faster on 3g/4g and vice versa. Not a fair comparison.
Put them both on the same wifi hotspot and then run some tests

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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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I'm pretty sure I seen 20Mbs a couple times on wifi
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My cuzing showed me 20mbps speed test on that dual core LG phone on T-Mobile. Seems like double our 4g...

I was in ATT today speedtesting my Galaxy Note 4G+ vs Skyrocket LTE.
Skyrocket avg'd 12M Note avged 7M.
Then Dually downloaded Gizmodo, and howardforums etc (bout 10 different sites).... and Note downloaded those sites slightly faster than Skyrocket. Also downloaded a 250+ file and same result.
The LTE speedtests are a crock vs real world performance. Who cares......less you just get off on speedtest app contests.
Edit... Both devices on ATT network. Wifi testing:Note was better by more.

{Q} Is This Phone Capable Of..

Is this phone capable of both 3g & 4g speeds, I mean does the "3g" iconactually show up on areas where T-Mobile's HSPA+ is not available? I ask this because I had a GS4G & it was dissapointing not have 3g, it would only jump from 4g to edge, Thanks in advance people!!
ps. I ask because im planning on picking it up if it does, if it doesnt then ill jump over to the Galaxy Nexus.

From what I have noticed, my carrier (Mobilicity) only has HSPA, not HSPA+, so I am always on 3g. I hope that answers your question!
Btw, the speeds I get on 3g are around 3-5Mbps

I've been on everything from GPRS to 4G on this phone, so yes, it does all the various levels of data.

l3g3nd.k1ll4h said:
Is this phone capable of both 3g & 4g speeds, I mean does the "3g" iconactually show up on areas where T-Mobile's HSPA+ is not available? I ask this because I had a GS4G & it was dissapointing not have 3g, it would only jump from 4g to edge, Thanks in advance people!!
ps. I ask because im planning on picking it up if it does, if it doesnt then ill jump over to the Galaxy Nexus.
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I've seen 3g pop up. But before you think that your sgs4g didn't have 3g,, did you ever run network tracker? The icon can be deceiving mate.
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Why does it matter . If your on Tmobile any data you use counts to your cap . I.gues using only 3g will prolong it .
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T-Mobile shows you on 4G when you're using 3G. Check your about phone. UMTS = 3G
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if you have a 2gb, 5gb, or 10gb plan from T-mobile, once you pass your cap, speeds are reduced to 3G for the rest of your billing cycle.

garhart13 said:
if you have a 2gb, 5gb, or 10gb plan from T-mobile, once you pass your cap, speeds are reduced to 3G for the rest of your billing cycle.
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i'm not sure about being reduced to 3g speed. I reached my cap for the first time last month. my data speed dropped to around 200kbps (edge speeds) versus around 17mbps (4g speed) before getting throttled. i wish it would drop to 3g speeds. that's not so bad. edge speed is really slow compared to 4g.

Unless you have a custom kernel, this phone will only show 4G or E. It is designed that way, so that people don't but a 4G phone and only see 3G if they live in a UMTS area only. It's just for marketing. You can see the 4G icon and get anywhere from 1 mbps to 15 mbps.
And the throttle speed is definitely not 3G speeds. I wish. It is capped at 0.06 mbps
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Verizon 3G speeds?

I was wondering what other peoples 3G speeds are? It's unbearably slow for me here in Seattle, on speed test app on 4G lte i get around 11,000 kbps. But on 3G i'm only getting like 84 kbps. is this usual?

True2TheGame said:
I was wondering what other peoples 3G speeds are? It's unbearably slow for me here in Seattle, on speed test app on 4G lte i get around 11,000 kbps. But on 3G i'm only getting like 84 kbps. is this usual?
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That doesn't sound like you're connecting to 3G, more like 1x. There's an app called "network info II" that will tell you what type of network it's using. It should show it as EVDO if you are on 3G

No 4G here where i live so i stay on 3G and even then since im at home 90% of the time, I stay on wifi.
I went out of town today to Tallahassee FL where they have 4G and really wasnt impressed with the speeds.
Maybe im spoiled by wifi or maybe it was just a bad day for the network being they were having LTE outages all day today

Is it normal/acceptable for "4g" speeds to be less than 2 Mb?

About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?

blackplague1347 said:
About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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1-3mbps is pretty normal for me indoors with 2-3 bars of signal, with 4-5 or so outdoors with better signal. I can only pull down those crazy numbers of 10+ with HSPA+ late at night when the towers aren't as busy. I'm in a small town, but we've had HSPA+ for a good year or more now (heck, I was on Verizon when it was switched on, so I don't know exactly how long...). Maybe your network is still getting upgraded / installed and the process isn't done yet?
I'm on the T-mobile $30 plan, by the way. I've heard AT&T's HSPA+ can be significantly slower in some places, so that may be part of it?

if they just rolled out the towers a month ago and upgraded to HSPA+, I'm not at all surprised by those speeds.

Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
For an area that just now got hspa turned on when the rest of the country is getting LTE, those speeds you are describing seem perfectly normal.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.

Ravynmagi said:
I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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True, location also plays a big role.
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I would be happy to get 6Mb down with AT&T in Austin. Max is about 3.1Mbps which I think is crap since we know it is capable of more. Interestingly, AT&T LTE in the same areas rock!

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Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
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Well that's also because T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42mbps deployed, and devices that can make use of it. Most AT&T devices are at best 21mbps capable, and not all of their towers are.

Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Winesnob said:
Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...

martonikaj said:
Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.

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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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"4g" in quotes, and OP specifically is talking about AT&T.

I'll have to run speedtest some more when I'm out of town and see what kind of numbers I can get. I would be interested to see what speeds a 3G phone gets in the same region as my "4G" Gnex (HSPA+ via AT&T, not LTE via Verizon).