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just curious what everyone gets as far as tmobile speed? As i just came from at&t which i was getting great speeds of 2-3 megabits. i switched to tmobile and my speeds suck in 3g areas(note HSPA+ is not available here yet) I dont really get the H signal much which sucks when it does get rolled out in my area. I am curious thos when it does will i see increase in my 3g speeds even? also what kind of speeds are you all getting?
i am currently in 3g/h never gotten more than 512-600 kilobits....
like i said i just came from at&t nexus one and man these speeds are reallly killing me i like the phone but just dont think i can handle these low speeds! will i see an increase even in 3g areas when it is rolled out? and what are your alls speeds. to summarize. Also when it does get rolled out will they expand it any or just where it is now will get better speeds?
sorry for wall of text and jabbering on!

In Charr I pull a steady 5mbps down
it all depends on which tower your receiving from bc that tower could not been upgraded completely yet

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In Charr I pull a steady 5mbps down
it all depends on which tower your receiving from bc that tower could not been upgraded completely yet
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so then im guessing you are in there "4g" area?
also when you are in a 3g area do you notice a speed boost? or do they upgrade all towers to hspa+ so what once was 3g is not "4g"?

Check my signature - that's about average for me at my house... Elsewhere around the county I get around 5MB download...
Upload is always maxed at 600kb.

mykeldrip said:
so then im guessing you are in there "4g" area?
also when you are in a 3g area do you notice a speed boost? or do they upgrade all towers to hspa+ so what once was 3g is not "4g"?
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yea but i noticed once im out of 4g areas my speeds drop in half but i always get like 1.2mbps up

does anyone know if when they upgraded towers they noticed more 3g areas 4g? or was it already the 4g areas just got that speed boost?

January of this year when I first signed on with T-Mobile I only had EDGE speeds anywhere in this county. They upgraded to 3G probably in March. I was seeing H showing up on my phone around the same time but the fastest downloads I was getting anywhere was only around 3MB. When I got a Vibrant (July) I saw the speeds slowly creep up to 5MB almost everywhere.

JWhipple said:
January of this year when I first signed on with T-Mobile I only had EDGE speeds anywhere in this county. They upgraded to 3G probably in March. I was seeing H showing up on my phone around the same time but the fastest downloads I was getting anywhere was only around 3MB. When I got a Vibrant (July) I saw the speeds slowly creep up to 5MB almost everywhere.
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thats pretty good i wish i was getting those speeds on 3g! thank you for info!

I get around 3mbps on 3g and as high as 7mbps on "4G" with an average of around 5-6mbps
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I get around 3mbps on 3g and as high as 7mbps on "4G" with an average of around 5-6mbps
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did you have tmobile before they upgraded you to 4g? what 3g speeds were you getting then?

I'm getting about 5mbps average with a peak of 8mbps
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T-Mobile vs Sprint GS2 SpeedTest

For what its worth did a little download test about 10 sites.
Cleared cache. Both had very good signal. I'm on 4G of course.All browser settings identical.
And...yep...Epic was faster 9 out of 10 sites, usually by quite a bit.
And I'm no 'Homer'...actually pushed TMobile a split sec faster to make sure.!

That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)

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That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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I'd rather get that kind of 3g speed then have 4g IMO. 4g kills the battery
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WOW, 2.3 down on 3G
id take that any day over 4G, especially if it was consistent
but im not complaining I can pull 3 down in my office, and 2 down in my house...just have to stay still lol
it kills the battery, but my 3G is in the 300K range---

in the dallas area 3g speeds suck all around ... limited to 300 500kbps
4g is awesome u get 2 3mbits easy

Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.

Yeah I don't know what's happened to 3G here.
When I had the Evo 4G...Chicago had a big surge here...like AVERAGING 2500kbps on 3g.
Was poorer on the Evo 3D days but not too bad.
Now (with Epic) it averages 600 or so here.
All I can say is....if there is a surge of IPhone buyers coming in they are going to.be monumentally dissapointed in data speeds!
Whatya thinkin Sprint?
I remain on 4G here...(have a MiFi unit in my bag which helps!). Almost always run 4M average on either 4G or WiFi MiFi.

dallastx said:
You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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Holy crap I wish I could just get 3000mbps on any ISP or phone. can you imagine No Lag, streaming instant.
Hell just going to click on anything on the website would seem to just pop up on screen as if the computer read my mind.

I used to be on att I had a Motorola atrix and ranged 3.5 to 6mb download.
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This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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dallastx said:
You are very luck on 3g! Most people on Sprint 3g get 100kbps to 900kbps. 4g for me anyhow inside or out is 300kbs to 1.9 kbps...Upload 500kbps to 700kbps..I am in Dallas TX in the top 10 market for any rollouts! Sprint sucks when it comes to data. Had a friend that did a speed test yesterday on regular 3g on Tmobile and got 3000mbps up and down. SMH I just only wish.....Feel sorry for the iPhone users who will have no service lol to 500 kbps on average.
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I think I literally have a tower in my back yard.
Edit: when my Comcast goes out, I use the phone for tether on xbox and it streams in 720p lol!
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Ok Einstein....never said it reflected GLOBALLY. Why so irritated?!
It WAS a data transfer test of Wimax vs TMobile HSDP++ of 10 sites I use for 'testing'. Connected to respected networks...not Wifi. (WiFi isn't a network test).
Both had superb signal strength. Both with identical browser conditions.
I suspect if I took both deep inside a building Wimax would not fair as well.
U OK now?
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This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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what speeds are you getting? I'm on T-mobile sgs2 n get constant 10mbps n peak at 18 at sacramento CA area

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Overstew said:
That's because T-Mobiles "4G" is the GSM varient 3G technology equivalent to Ev-Do Rev. B. It's not official 4G, it's "3.5G" technology known as HSPA+. But glad Sprint's 4G speeds are kicking butt where you are. At my house, 4G rarely connects and when it does, it's slower than my 3G speeds. (I luckily pull 2300 kbps on Sprint's 3G.)
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LxMxFxD said:
This is a stupid thread. Wifi is the only way to test tue browsing speed. If youre concerned about network speeds, this kind of test is pointless. Congrats, you found ONE place where sprint is faster. Meaningless. At home i get 2mbit down on 4g, at work i get 12. Both spots are deep inside buldings, both in the city.
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dont like your approach, but totally agree with the message. There are places where tmobile is faster on 3g/4g and vice versa. Not a fair comparison.
Put them both on the same wifi hotspot and then run some tests

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WiFi can only run as fast as the wifi radio can run, which is around 12mbps. I can easily pull 30 mbps on my computer via wifi, but my phone pulls 10 mbps on the same network.
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I'm pretty sure I seen 20Mbs a couple times on wifi
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My cuzing showed me 20mbps speed test on that dual core LG phone on T-Mobile. Seems like double our 4g...

I was in ATT today speedtesting my Galaxy Note 4G+ vs Skyrocket LTE.
Skyrocket avg'd 12M Note avged 7M.
Then Dually downloaded Gizmodo, and howardforums etc (bout 10 different sites).... and Note downloaded those sites slightly faster than Skyrocket. Also downloaded a 250+ file and same result.
The LTE speedtests are a crock vs real world performance. Who cares......less you just get off on speedtest app contests.
Edit... Both devices on ATT network. Wifi testing:Note was better by more.

Is it normal/acceptable for "4g" speeds to be less than 2 Mb?

About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?

blackplague1347 said:
About a month ago my area upgraded from EDGE to HSPA+. I finally decided to play with the speedtest.net app yesterday and I was only managing download speeds of maybe 1 or 2Mb, on a good test. This is enough for casual use, I suppose, but most people (on this board at least) seem to be getting much better speeds than that. A nearby area where the State University resides also produces similar speeds on my GNex and my previous phone (AT&T Galaxy S2).
Is this normal or do I need to change something on my phone?
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1-3mbps is pretty normal for me indoors with 2-3 bars of signal, with 4-5 or so outdoors with better signal. I can only pull down those crazy numbers of 10+ with HSPA+ late at night when the towers aren't as busy. I'm in a small town, but we've had HSPA+ for a good year or more now (heck, I was on Verizon when it was switched on, so I don't know exactly how long...). Maybe your network is still getting upgraded / installed and the process isn't done yet?
I'm on the T-mobile $30 plan, by the way. I've heard AT&T's HSPA+ can be significantly slower in some places, so that may be part of it?

if they just rolled out the towers a month ago and upgraded to HSPA+, I'm not at all surprised by those speeds.

Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
For an area that just now got hspa turned on when the rest of the country is getting LTE, those speeds you are describing seem perfectly normal.
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I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.

Ravynmagi said:
I'm on T-Mobile and 1-2Mb is normal for me with 5 bars. If I'm extremely lucky I sometimes see 3Mb.
T-Mobile's "4G" in Phoenix is exactly the same speed as my 3G Vibrant.
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True, location also plays a big role.
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I would be happy to get 6Mb down with AT&T in Austin. Max is about 3.1Mbps which I think is crap since we know it is capable of more. Interestingly, AT&T LTE in the same areas rock!

TJBunch1228 said:
Att's hspa is notoriously slow compared to Tmo. I see between 6 and 18 mbps on my Tmo phones and my Att phones max out at around 6, averaging around 3.
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Well that's also because T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42mbps deployed, and devices that can make use of it. Most AT&T devices are at best 21mbps capable, and not all of their towers are.

Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Winesnob said:
Depends on signal strength. On VZW LTE I can pull 20+ mbps in Seattle, but only 2-5 mbps in outlying areas.
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Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...

martonikaj said:
Well, we're talking about AT&T HSPA+ in here so...
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...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.

Winesnob said:
...so the thread title asked about 4g speeds. 4g = HSPA+ or LTE.
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"4g" in quotes, and OP specifically is talking about AT&T.

I'll have to run speedtest some more when I'm out of town and see what kind of numbers I can get. I would be interested to see what speeds a 3G phone gets in the same region as my "4G" Gnex (HSPA+ via AT&T, not LTE via Verizon).

Difference between 4G and LTE?

LTE and 4G are the same? because i know that glide doesnt has lte, but when i use the mobile data, i see the 4G icon. i always have that question. thanks

4g is hsdpa+, which is slightly above 3g, but not quite 4g. It still is fast enough
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4g is hsdpa+, which is slightly above 3g, but not quite 4g. It still is fast enough
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Then , is better than 3.5G ? (here we know that like 3g and 3.5g). Thanks, for your help thats clear me that question (sorry for my english )

It pretty much is 3.5g.
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To give you an idea, LTE can "theoretically" max at 300 mbps (mbps = mega bits per second -- most carriers/ISP's provide this), which would translate to 37.5 megabytes/sec. Do you get that now? Very unlikely. Friends who have LTE are only getting around 24 mbps, which is still really fast.
HSPA+, which is what AT&T's "4G" (not 4G LTE -- it's the 3.5G) as well as T-Mobile's has a peak of about 42 mbps -- and I've seen folks here (Houston) get really close to that in speed -- which translates to a little over 5 megabytes/sec.
T-Mo and AT&T are actively working to get more and more LTE towers and service created (they have HSPA+). T-Mo hasn't rolled theirs out at all, except I think for testing in a few select, small markets, if I remember correctly. AT&T has service in LTE already established.
LTE is the way of the future at the moment. Kind of like the HD-DVD vs bluray debacle years ago -- LTE won out over another 4G technology, WiMax, which was on several earlier phones on Sprint. Sprint finally conceded it lost and start building out an LTE network to replace their WiMax one.
Hopefully, that's a NICE BIG chunk of knowledge that you can partially digest.

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To give you an idea, LTE can "theoretically" max at 300 mbps (mbps = mega bits per second -- most carriers/ISP's provide this), which would translate to 37.5 megabytes/sec. Do you get that now? Very unlikely. Friends who have LTE are only getting around 24 mbps, which is still really fast.
HSPA+, which is what AT&T's "4G" (not 4G LTE -- it's the 3.5G) as well as T-Mobile's has a peak of about 42 mbps -- and I've seen folks here (Houston) get really close to that in speed -- which translates to a little over 5 megabytes/sec.
T-Mo and AT&T are actively working to get more and more LTE towers and service created (they have HSPA+). T-Mo hasn't rolled theirs out at all, except I think for testing in a few select, small markets, if I remember correctly. AT&T has service in LTE already established.
LTE is the way of the future at the moment. Kind of like the HD-DVD vs bluray debacle years ago -- LTE won out over another 4G technology, WiMax, which was on several earlier phones on Sprint. Sprint finally conceded it lost and start building out an LTE network to replace their WiMax one.
Hopefully, that's a NICE BIG chunk of knowledge that you can partially digest.
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Ya it's a huge difference, put it like this;
We get 3mbps and LTE gets 30mbps. Of course I am over simplifying things but LTE is about 10X faster then 3G which is what we have.

dudejb said:
Ya it's a huge difference, put it like this;
We get 3mbps and LTE gets 30mbps. Of course I am over simplifying things but LTE is about 10X faster then 3G which is what we have.
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Depends on where they're deployed, though. At the moment, in my mind, though, HSPA+ is fast enough. LTE is nice and important for future-proofing, but I don't see a need for it for another... probably 3-5 years. Keep in mind, most people's home internet is like 3-12 mbps on average. HSPA+ current results for my city are WELL above this for all providers.
You realize that Cappy Glide can get HSPA+ which goes up to 42mbps -- you could theoretically download at > 5 megabytes/sec under ideal circumstances... I currently pull around 1-2 megabytes/sec... Why would you ever need more on this current gen -- especially with data-capping?

Just saying I have a friend on the same cellular provider as me and he has that new Windows Phone from Nokia on LTE and me with the glide. We did a speed test and I got around 2.5mbps and he got 25.mbps. I agree for everyday stuff 2.5 mbps is enough, but I just have to say I was drooling when I saw the speed he was getting on Rogers which is whoI have.
I have 2 years left on my Contract and I am happy with my Glide but for sure in 2 years I will make sure my next phone is a LTE device. I have a 6Gigs download cap so I am not to worried about caps after all it is a cell phone and 6 gigs should be plenty.

Fair enough -- seems that Rogers is much different as a carrier than the ones here in the US. I've had friends on HSPA+ on T-Mobile at like 30ish mbps and friends on LTE on Verizon at 35 mbps. It wasn't a super big difference. But until you hit double-digits on the speed, I can totally understand the drool you emit and why.

thanks, thats clear e a lot i always think that 4G was behind of lte but better than 3.5G, because my glide is the unique phone that i see with 4G icon (all the phones here only has 3G icon or H+ and the modems wcdma or Hsdpa) i am not in USA or Canada

I wouldnt say that 4G is HSDPA+ ..
Let's get back to begining ...
1. GSM (2G) 9.6 kbps,
2. GPRS (2G) 40 kbps
3. EDGE (2G) 120 kbps
4. WCDMA (3G) = UMTS and HSDPA 14Mbps
5. HSPA and HSUPA (3.5G) = HSPA+ 28Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
6. DC-HSDPA (4G) 42Mbps and up (unreal speeds / market speeds)
7. OFDMA (LTE/WiMAX) 100Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
Here is reality : http://www.zdnet.com/au/speed-test-how-fast-is-4g-really-7000007995/

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I wouldnt say that 4G is HSDPA+ ..
Let's get back to begining ...
1. GSM (2G) 9.6 kbps,
2. GPRS (2G) 40 kbps
3. EDGE (2G) 120 kbps
4. WCDMA (3G) = UMTS and HSDPA 14Mbps
5. HSPA and HSUPA (3.5G) = HSPA+ 28Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
6. DC-HSDPA (4G) 42Mbps and up (unreal speeds / market speeds)
7. OFDMA (LTE/WiMAX) 100Mbps (unreal speeds / market speeds)
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That table is misleading. Most cablecos have rolled out DOCSIS3, capable of 50Mbps at the low end, yet you'd be lucky if there's a 20Mbps package available at all. VDSL is a similar story. Realistically, you're gonna see one, maybe two Mbps real-world, even on LTE. When you're talking about actual bandwidth delivered to your device, you won't see ANY improvement upgrading past UMTS. In the US market, all the benefits of the newer technologies are exclusively on the side of the carriers -- you will see nothing.
Stay on WiFi, folks.

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That table is misleading. Most cablecos have rolled out DOCSIS3, capable of 50Mbps at the low end, yet you'd be lucky if there's a 20Mbps package available at all. VDSL is a similar story. Realistically, you're gonna see one, maybe two Mbps real-world, even on LTE. When you're talking about actual bandwidth delivered to your device, you won't see ANY improvement upgrading past UMTS. In the US market, all the benefits of the newer technologies are exclusively on the side of the carriers -- you will see nothing.
Stay on WiFi, folks.
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Man I don't know what u talking your words are misleading.. sorry

roothorick said:
That table is misleading. Most cablecos have rolled out DOCSIS3, capable of 50Mbps at the low end, yet you'd be lucky if there's a 20Mbps package available at all. VDSL is a similar story. Realistically, you're gonna see one, maybe two Mbps real-world, even on LTE. When you're talking about actual bandwidth delivered to your device, you won't see ANY improvement upgrading past UMTS. In the US market, all the benefits of the newer technologies are exclusively on the side of the carriers -- you will see nothing.
Stay on WiFi, folks.
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Lololololololol now that I've laughed enough. Play an online game on UMTS and on LTE or download a file or game or video the come talk to me. LTE is not just for the benefits of the carriers.
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enik_fox said:
Lololololololol now that I've laughed enough. Play an online game on UMTS and on LTE or download a file or game or video the come talk to me. LTE is not just for the benefits of the carriers.
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OK u are the maaan

The Captivate Glide on AT&T in the US is capable of a rated 21Mbps maximum speed...I have one on a NET10/AT&T SIM in Los Angeles and have so far seen up to 11Mbps in speed tests, but it can also be much slower, dependent on the traffic on the network where I happen to be - the phone's indicator nearly always says "4G" even if my download speeds are less than 500k. If you have a Samsung Relay on T-Mobile (the closest phone to the Captivate Glide design-wise) it has a max rated speed of 42Mbps, and the T-Mobile network usually has faster average data speeds regardless, as long as you're on 4G, but their network is smaller. At this point I'm paying $46 a month on NET10/AT&T versus $55 a month on Page Plus for a 3G phone that maxes at 2.5Mbps (usually around 1200k) on Verizon's network, both with 2GB of data (I use WiFi as much as possible). For my needs I'm willing to spend a lot less with a MVNO prepaid network and live with the HSPA+, rather than paying $100 a month and up for LTE on Verizon, AT&T or Sprint - LTE is also a big battery hog. The fact I was able to get a slightly used Glide for around $100 helped as well, rather than paying hundreds more for an LTE phone and/or being locked into an expensive contract.

TVCCS said:
The Captivate Glide on AT&T in the US is capable of a rated 21Mbps maximum speed...I have one on a NET10/AT&T SIM in Los Angeles and have so far seen up to 11Mbps in speed tests, but it can also be much slower, dependent on the traffic on the network where I happen to be - the phone's indicator nearly always says "4G" even if my download speeds are less than 500k. If you have a Samsung Relay on T-Mobile (the closest phone to the Captivate Glide design-wise) it has a max rated speed of 42Mbps, and the T-Mobile network usually has faster average data speeds regardless, as long as you're on 4G, but their network is smaller. At this point I'm paying $46 a month on NET10/AT&T versus $55 a month on Page Plus for a 3G phone that maxes at 2.5Mbps (usually around 1200k) on Verizon's network, both with 2GB of data (I use WiFi as much as possible). For my needs I'm willing to spend a lot less with a MVNO prepaid network and live with the HSPA+, rather than paying $100 a month and up for LTE on Verizon, AT&T or Sprint - LTE is also a big battery hog. The fact I was able to get a slightly used Glide for around $100 helped as well, rather than paying hundreds more for an LTE phone and/or being locked into an expensive contract.
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UUf i would never pay so much ..
I have one contract for 12 months (sim only) so am locked but am paying £15 a month and I have unlimited internet and unlim. SMS , then 600 minutes that my girlfriend uses .. (she never use all 600 minutes .. she is texting more ..)
And I had Giff Gaff previously .. it is based on O2 but it is cheaper and it is sim only . I used to pay £10 a month for unlimited internet unlim. texts and 250 minutes .. BUT they increased package to £12 so I started NOT liking it cos speed is not as fast as on 3 network
So I have decided to go with 3 network (same as my girlfriend) but it is SIM only pay as u go so it is 15 pounds a month no contract am not locked and I have same package as girlfriend but NOT 600 minutes but 300 minutes of call .. and that is way enough for me .. internet and SMS unlimited that is my priority..

H+ or 3G what is the difference?

every time i browse the net on my Note 2 I'm getting "H+" on the status bar in my area while at the same time whenever i call someone i get 3G at the same place, so what is the difference between them? which is better? sorry if it is a noob quastion

H+ is for HSDPA+, which delivers much higher speeds than normal 3G. Technically it is an upgraded 3G network. so if you have H+ then your network is faster than if you get only 3G. and H+ is used only for data download. so you will not see it in normal voice calls.
Based on your network, Note II can handle H+ speeds up to 42Mbps. 3G is only 384kbps.

tmrbaset said:
H+ is for HSDPA+, which delivers much higher speeds than normal 3G. Technically it is an upgraded 3G network. so if you have H+ then your network is faster than if you get only 3G. and H+ is used only for data download. so you will not see it in normal voice calls.
Based on your network, Note II can handle H+ speeds up to 42Mbps. 3G is only 384kbps.
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thanks alot man for the explanation i thought it is something weaker than 3g, i appreciate your answer :good:

Here for the diff speeds
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639115
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Capable of 42Mbps!? I can't imagine anyone ever gets anywhere near that. I only get 35Mbps on my home computer with cable internet.
With H+ in my area, I generally get somewhere around 3Mbps maybe a little higher.
What is the max speed of LTE supposed to be?
Now that I know my phone is capable of 42Mbps (which is faster then my home connection), I really have no problem with not having an LTE phone. Especially since the max speed is probably as probable as seeing a unicorn.

Not to put a damper on it, but H+ doesnt mean DCHSPA as my N7100 shows that symbol and its not DCHSPA capable.

kebabs said:
Not to put a damper on it, but H+ doesnt mean DCHSPA as my N7100 shows that symbol and its not DCHSPA capable.
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That's because H+ means HSPA+. Unless that's what DCHSPA is, but I've never heard it called that before. Even then, are you sure about that? HSPA+ is listed in the specs for this phone.

HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
H+ is faster than 3g without a doubt
DCHSDPA is known as dual channel ie three uk are dishing it out but us n7100 owners nothing to get excited over its not supported..
Mainly only lte models have dchsdpa only a couple of non lte devices have it
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E_Goldstein said:
HSDPA, 42 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps DL
H+ is faster than 3g without a doubt
DCHSDPA is known as dual channel ie three uk are dishing it out but us n7100 owners nothing to get excited over its not supported..
Mainly only lte models have dchsdpa only a couple of non lte devices have it
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Well, that sort of clears it up. (Although I don't fully get it, I sorta do) Not like it really matters though. No one is going to get anywhere close to what those technologies are capable of anyways. If they ever do, we will probably all be on our next device anyways(probably more like a few devices down the road).