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Hi guys,
I just want to ask about the icons in my htc 8525. I have the 3G symbol even though i dont have data and i dont even turn the Wi-fi on. And sometimes my phone has E symbol. It didnt happen when i had wm5 before. thank you
shadowluan said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask about the icons in my htc 8525. I have the 3G symbol even though i dont have data and i dont even turn the Wi-fi on. And sometimes my phone has E symbol. It didnt happen when i had wm5 before. thank you
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Any 3G phone will get a 3G symbol when it is in 3G coverage area. Your data and wifi has nothing to do with it.
Cool , thank you
Adding, about E symbol it was symbol for EDGE data service coverage, it's 2G technology.
so in essence, 3G is when u have 3G coverage, and E is when you are roaming. just to make it clearer for you.
3G = U
E = G
Someday, when You've get 'H' symbol, then You're on 3G network which support HSDPA data service
miffymiffy said:
so in essence, 3G is when u have 3G coverage, and E is when you are roaming. just to make it clearer for you.
3G = U
E = G
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Nope, E is not roaming! E is like 3G. In a nutshell
3G - Fastest Data
H - when you are using 3G data
E-one level less than 3G
G-slowest possible data connection
ai6908 said:
Nope, E is not roaming! E is like 3G. In a nutshell
3G - Fastest Data
H - when you are using 3G data
E-one level less than 3G
G-slowest possible data connection
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that's very right thank you ai6908
3G = Third generation of data connection (within area coverage)
H = HSDPA = High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (using 3G connection)
E = EDGE = Enhanced Data rates for GSM Evolution (2G area coverage, no data connection is performed until you see the connection icon)
G = GPRS = General Packet Radio Service (normal and basic area coverage)
ai6908 said:
Nope, E is not roaming! E is like 3G. In a nutshell
3G - Fastest Data
H - when you are using 3G data
E-one level less than 3G
G-slowest possible data connection
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Just to make it clear.
E (EDGE) is not roaming, but E was not the same with 3G (WCDMA), 3G had faster data speed rates than E. They came from different generation, EDGE was 2.5G.
H (HSDPA) was the fastest till now, then 3G, next E and last G (GPRS) are the slowest (on GSM technology)
erwinpiero said:
Just to make it clear.
E (EDGE) is not roaming, but E was not the same with 3G (WCDMA), 3G had faster data speed rates than E. They came from different generation, EDGE was 2.5G.
H (HSDPA) was the fastest till now, then 3G, next E and last G (GPRS) are the slowest (on GSM technology)
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I think you guys are confused, let me quote
"Since 2006, UMTS networks in many countries have been or are in the process of being upgraded with High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA), sometimes known as 3.5G. Currently, HSDPA enables downlink transfer speeds of up to 7.2 Mbit/s."
H is a LOT faster then 3G, 384 kbit/s MAX for 3G and 7.2 Mbit/s MAX for HSDPA.
It goes like this
H > 3G > E > G
veyka said:
H > 3G > E > G
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Agreed, gotta love H coverage
veyka said:
Since 2006, UMTS networks in many countries have been or are in the process of being upgraded with High Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA), sometimes known as 3.5G. Currently, HSDPA enables downlink transfer speeds of up to 7.2 Mbit/s.
H is a LOT faster then 3G, 384 kbit/s MAX for 3G and 7.2 Mbit/s MAX for HSDPA.
H > 3G > E > G
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oye! as I never saw the H icon on my device before, I didn't know that. thank you veyka for the explaination
farres said:
oye! as I never saw the H icon on my device before, I didn't know that. thank you veyka for the explaination
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Your welcome! I was surprised when I saw it pop up myself, seem t-mobile where I live is rolling out the new network just as i get unlimited data to
veyka said:
Your welcome! I was surprised when I saw it pop up myself, seem t-mobile where I live is rolling out the new network just as i get unlimited data to
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What? The UK is catching up to good old New Zealand technology? oh noes..
Glad we had the same mind Veyka, thanks to mention some speed number there
By the way, in Indonesian we had plant a lot BTS with HSDPA feature on big cities
zocster said:
What? The UK is catching up to good old New Zealand technology? oh noes..
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Shocking I know! Next thing you know we will all have good teeth
erwinpiero said:
Glad we had the same mind Veyka, thanks to mention some speed number there
By the way, in Indonesian we had plant a lot BTS with HSDPA feature on big cities
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Wikipedia is my friend, it all sounds very impressive, until you realise your hitting 250kbps true speed down, still good for mobile, and enough to run my comp off when the net glitches out.
I'm wondering, i've read somewhere there, it's also show U symbol, which is mean of UMTS (general meaning of GSM 3rd generation) isn't it? What then does this symbol means? Is it the same as 3G symbol?
Thx
erwinpiero said:
I'm wondering, i've read somewhere there, it's also show U symbol, which is mean of UMTS (general meaning of GSM 3rd generation) isn't it? What then does this symbol means? Is it the same as 3G symbol?
Thx
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Well, You can change the icons to what you want, so yes, you could have U for 3G, because they just the same thing, 3G just means 3rd generation, and UMTS is the teck.
Ow, okay then, thanks Veyka..
the U is the default icon for WM5 for the 3G service (or the UTMS service)
Had my Desire for a while now, and I'm just wondering why my internet connection jumps from 'H' straight down to 'G', seemingly bypassing 3G.
Anyone else got this happening?
this happens to me but only when im on a train which is understandable
it shouldnt happen if you are stationary
HSUPA is 3G just an enhanced version, so if you lose HSUPA it will just jump to G/E
I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
samac92 said:
I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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That's because T-Mobile never bothered to implement EDGE on their network. As far as I'm aware, only O2 and Orange have implemented EDGE, and O2 only did it because of the original iPhone 2G contract.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
That's because T-Mobile never bothered to implement EDGE on their network. As far as I'm aware, only O2 and Orange have implemented EDGE, and O2 only did it because of the original iPhone 2G contract.
Regards,
Dave
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I see, thanks for the info.
Seen EDGE once, that's it haha
No what I mean though, is fine, I'll be getting GPRS signal pretty much anywhere I go, and should be getting H signal in city's and largely populated areas, which I do (while it is pretty flakey). But inbetween those gaps, shouldn't I be getting 3G signal, in the areas with no H?
At the moment if I have no HSPA it goes straight to G, just completely missing the 3G areas, is this normal?
Sorry, tried making myself as clear as possible here
This is common problem with the Desire. Try dialling *#*#4636#*#* and then changing from wcdma preferred GSM auto (PRL). It's helped for a few people, including myself. A search will dig up a few useful threads
weird, I only see H and E and G. Have never ever seen 3G and I monitor it closely too.
HSUPA is 3G just an enhanced version, so if you lose HSUPA it will just jump to G/E
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This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range. Before I contacted T-mobile I was stuck on their normal Web 'n' Walk that restricted the speed so I was only ever seeing 3G. After being upgraded to the W 'n' W Plus I never see 3G anymore flick between H and G depending on my signal.
foyrtcw said:
This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range.
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Sorry, but that is incorrect.
I'm on T-Mobile, and I regular see G, 3G, and H depending on where I am.
Right now, my phone is sitting on my desk in my office and is showing 3G. If I run a speed test, it immediately jumps to H and I get results of 1877kbps down and 476kbps up, so I'm definitely provisioned for HSDPA.
So, you can be correctly provisioned for HSDPA and still see the 3G symbol, though it would appear that this will jump to H pretty much as soon as you start using data.
Regards,
Dave
HSDPA (H) is a lot faster than 3G, but not all mobile masts have the right equipment to use it. If an HSDPA cell is available on a mast then your phone will only show H and never 3G. However, if the mast is not configured for HSDPA it will show 3G.
If a handset is connected using 3G/HSDPA and the signal is weak/lost it will drop down to 2G(G)/EDGE.
Most issues people have with the handset dropping down to 2G will be coverage/signal related. Best thing to do is try it in another area. If the connection is stable in any other place you are in then there is nothing wrong with the handset.
foxmeister said:
So, you can be correctly provisioned for HSDPA and still see the 3G symbol, though it would appear that this will jump to H pretty much as soon as you start using data.
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HSDPA is data-only so the handset will show 3G if not using data. As soon as a data connection is established/requested it will change to HSDPA (H) if it is available. 3G is for voice/texts and also data if no HSDPA is available.
samac92 said:
I get H, 3G or G, I've never once seen Edge at all.
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I only get H/G here in the UK, but a recent trip to Paris had me only on E. It's dependant on what the carrier is using.
foyrtcw said:
This. As long as you are not on an internet package that doesn't allow HSDPA then you should only see the H symbol, not 3G, when in range. Before I contacted T-mobile I was stuck on their normal Web 'n' Walk that restricted the speed so I was only ever seeing 3G. After being upgraded to the W 'n' W Plus I never see 3G anymore flick between H and G depending on my signal.
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Bull****... It is like Edge and Gprs, Edge is a "better" version of the normal Gprs, you get >Edge where ever Edge is available, otherwise normal Gprs.
Same to HSDPA and 3G (umts) thats why i get mostly 3G here and HSDPA not that often, because my Provider has bad availability of HSDPA.
I have the Note II GT-N7100. This is the international version that doesn't have the 1700 spectrum that T-Mobile uses. However, they have been refarming their towers to transmit on the 1900 spectrum, and our area (NY metro) is already pretty much done.
Here is my question:
Sometimes I get H+ on my phone, at other times just H. Does this difference mean anything?
And if yes, what does it mean?
Both usin 3G
H - HSPDA
H+ - HSPDA+
it depends on area coverage, some place when you are in area have H+. H+ have somewhat faster data transfer.
in 3G network
3G - your device have no active data connection
H+ - data exchangge active.when you are in area where you have high transfer data capacity available
H - data exchange active. still using 3G but less speed.
In 2G network
E - it display edge
Recently after updating my modem to I747MVLDMF1, I noticed that the network symbol said H. I believe that means LTE. How do I switch back to 3G? I want to save battery life.
thats hspa. the "4G" signal type is LTE service
xBeerdroiDx said:
thats hspa. the "4G" signal type is LTE service
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So I am already using 3G?
i think technically that 3g service may even display the title "3G" by your signal. in any event, "H" and "H+" are hspa/hspa+
H is a type of 3G. It is essentially an improved data rate version of 3G known as HSPA. You can read up on it for exact details. On CM10 LTE connections will be annotated with 4G vice H, H+, or 3G. On stock TouchWiz it is different. LTE is annotated as 4G LTE and H is annotated as 4G.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
TimeAndroid said:
Recently after updating my modem to I747MVLDMF1, I noticed that the network symbol said H. I believe that means LTE. How do I switch back to 3G? I want to save battery life.
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If you are still wondering... I do not believe there is a reliable fix to change to H+ only
well i have just received my new m8, great phone, but my data speed is very poor!! i am only getting H
i am on EE we do have 4g in my area, and my old iphone 5 connected at 3g no problem..
any ideas???
thanks
paul
What do you mean by "only getting H"? Is your data speed actually slower than your iPhone or are you just displeased with the icon?
BenPope said:
What do you mean by "only getting H"? Is your data speed actually slower than your iPhone or are you just displeased with the icon?
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not displeased with the icon, they could put a flying pig on the display and it wouldnt bother me.
i was just assuming that i was getting the lower data speed ( less than 3g) but i have now done a speed test ( dont know why i didnt do it earlier)
and i am geting just under 5mbps.
what does the H indicate?
thanks
paul
paulcfc said:
not displeased with the icon, they could put a flying pig on the display and it wouldnt bother me.
i was just assuming that i was getting the lower data speed ( less than 3g) but i have now done a speed test ( dont know why i didnt do it earlier)
and i am geting just under 5mbps.
what does the H indicate?
thanks
paul
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G stands for GPRS and is the slowest standard, used in the GSM network (2G).
E is an extension of GPRS, it is called EDGE and it is correspondingly a little faster, but still uses the old GSM network (2G).
3G stands for UMTS and is the successor to the GSM network and is faster.
H and H+ stand for HSPA and HSPA+. Both use the UMTS network, where H is faster than 3G and H+ is faster than H.
4G stands for LTE and is the fastest.
Until 4G is widespread it will be flakey. Even if I go to Manchester which has allegedly good 4G coverage, it dips between H / H+ and 4G. If I walk into a building it almost always drops a level.
grentuu said:
G stands for GPRS and is the slowest standard, used in the GSM network (2G).
E is an extension of GPRS, it is called EDGE and it is correspondingly a little faster, but still uses the old GSM network (2G).
3G stands for UMTS and is the successor to the GSM network and is faster.
H and H+ stand for HSPA and HSPA+. Both use the UMTS network, where H is faster than 3G and H+ is faster than H.
4G stands for LTE and is the fastest.
Until 4G is widespread it will be flakey. Even if I go to Manchester which has allegedly good 4G coverage, it dips between H / H+ and 4G. If I walk into a building it almost always drops a level.
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great , thanks for that .
for whatever reason, i was thinking that H was slower than 3G
paulcfc said:
great , thanks for that .
for whatever reason, i was thinking that H was slower than 3G
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No problem.... can't believe I just helped a CFC fan