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Hello!
I'm running Eclair on my DEFY, it's rooted via z4root.
I currently hold a 2GB microSD card and, as the volume of the apps is getting higher, I wish to upgrade to a 16GB microSD (a SunDisk one).
But I'm wondering if there's more to do then simply copy the apps to a temporary directory on my pc then fill in the new card.
Anyone has yet upgraded?
--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
Anything else should I know?
Cheers,
C*
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
etherea said:
--- edit: made a deep search on the forum and find out I need a class 6/8 microSD, then I have to format prior to copy up everything that was on the old microSD.
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Class 6/8 is not needed, my 8GB is a Class2 and it work absolutly fine!
For apps the data rate ofthe SD is not really important, 'cause u'll never load large amount off data each time. And SD card are still very very very slow against RAM.
Flash memory have good random access time, that's much important than data rate.
Good data rate are only for large file transfert from/to an other device (PC, etc)
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
Le_Poilu said:
Nothing special to do.
Just copy your actual SD contents on the new one and Go!
I went from the 2GB for a 8GB like this without any tricks...
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Fine, I thought there were some special "needings", I was stuck to the Motorola A1210 that was a bit tricly because of some apps hidden here and there on the microSD.
Le_Poilu said:
Last thing: by default le SD is not use for app installation on the defy, they use the 2GB internal memory.
You should use some App2Sd for extend this, and it's better to have Android 2.2 then.
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Actually the major part of the apps is installed on the microSD, I've checked several times and the percentage is so parted:
Apps/Things on the microSD 85%
Apps/Things on the Phone 23%
I'm not using any program to move stuff, but I'm intrigued by App2SD.
So thanks again =)
add.thebad said:
Apps in android 2.1 arent stored on the sd card without a mod available on this phone yet.
Instead it is stored on the 2gb internal memory which should be pleanty for lots of apps
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As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
No just copy the stuff from you old card to the new one. And as for class 6/8 I'm using a class 4 and its fine
etherea=> dont mix apps installation et apps data
The apps files are installed on the internal memory, but every app can use SD (intern or extern, whatever is present on the phone) for store datas.
Think about GPS software. This kind of soft need 1, 2 or more GB for maps storage.
The apps itself is on the "apps" space on the internal memory and all the maps stuff are on SD (intern or extern)
You can use software like diskusages to see what is where
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As said in the previous reply, I can see stuff is stored on the microSD mainly..
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Apps are not stored on the sd, however some apps data is.
Well thank you both, I still need to read a lot about the phone and aout Android but your answers did clarify a bit =)
Then, I upgraded to a 8GB SanDisk microSD with no problem.
The only minor issue was a duplicate of a couple of non-vital directories and related data, which were wiped out almost in a second.
Everything's working fine and have now much more space to fill in =)
Thanks everyone for the suggestions and hints!
Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
Deyan_pk said:
Guys I'm about to replace my micro sd with Kingston 16gb class 4 but, don't laugh , I cant remove the old one. What do i do? There is a red plastic thingy so i guess it holds it, but do i pull it or what ? Sorry for the dump question.
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Have you tried to pull it up?
It's a bit hard to get removed, try with a fine stick, I made it using my nails =)
This is an ongoing problem for me and it's definitely not ROM related, but it makes flashing ROM's difficult, in fact downright awkward!
When installing apps from TB it will get through a couple then reboot, at which point nothing will install until I repair my ext partition (Thank God for AmonRA!). Then it will do the same thing again. It will do the same thing with installing apps from the market too, but it's not so pronounced as I don't tend to install loads of apps at once especially as I've got TB.
I found that TB worked fine with CM7 as it didn't install to the ext partition until I flashed DarkTremors aps2sd, and that worked fine as a way round the problem.
None of this happened until I upgraded my 8Gb to 16Gb sd card. The card seems fine in every respect, just the problem with installing aps :-(
Anyone with any ideas?
My previous thread on disabling aps2sd has not proved fruitful either.
David
Before I upgraded my pathetic 2gb I done a little research and the word on the street was the hero couldn't handle more than 8gb, recommended by HTC apparently!
Whether this was due to the limitations of the rom(1.6 at the time) or the hardware I don't know.
Have you tried re-formatting your SD card and making sure the ext partion is compatible with the rom your using?
dully79 said:
Before I upgraded my pathetic 2gb I done a little research and the word on the street was the hero couldn't handle more than 8gb, recommended by HTC apparently!
Whether this was due to the limitations of the rom(1.6 at the time) or the hardware I don't know.
Have you tried re-formatting your SD card and making sure the ext partion is compatible with the rom your using?
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Yeah I've reformatted and reformatted, initially I thought that the problem mgiht have been the backup files had become corrupt when transfering them over ... and yes I've tried ext2 ext3 and ext4 all with the same results (the only rom i tried which wasn't compatible with ext4 was Cronos).
Maybe its true about 8gb being the limit the hero can handle, maybe someone else can confirm or deny.
I'm sure I've seen some on here using 16Gb cards, but it would be good to know, maybe I should change to the Froyo aps2sd?
Maybe you could try doing a nandroid backup, and trying a different rom to see if it works, if not you could have a faulty SD card???
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
The max htc Hero should handle would be 32gb I believe. According to link 1, htc hero supports SD 2.0. While SD 2.0 is also called SDHC, which according to link 2 its max is 32gb
Maybe you should try to pull /proc/last_kmsg to see why it rebooted? (post it at pastebin.org, and place url here. Maybe we can understand it )
links:
http://www.htc.com/uk/product/hero/specification.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
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Yeah I'm really confused as those were my settings also and I tried in on Elelinux 6.2 ... I think it must be either my Hero had a bad day it was born or the sd card did, but it always comes up clean when scanned.
snah65 said:
I a, using a 16 Gb card without problems, I always do a full wipe of my phone and a format of my card before flashing a new Rom. I use the aps2sc within the rom and make sure that the settings are right (install to external) before I use titanium.
I am on elelinux 6.2.0
GL
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16gb card here, use TB all the time and nadroid as well and never had a problem. Maybe your card has some faulty sectors. Try to copy 16gb on it on the PC and copy it back to your pc after you've made sure nothing was cached. Or try scandisk to see if a part of the flash is broken, maybe.
Using a cheap ebay-bought Team 16GB Class6 with TB, flashing and nandroids. No issues whatsoever. Works great!
I've scanned the disk multiple times, not tried a full 16gb transfer ... and I'll get the log output in a minute or two
output of /proc/last_kmsg
http://pastebin.com/0rpNHFF8
Thanks in advance!
Edit: It got to installing around 15apps this time before crashing. It varies as to when it dies, but it will. I even considered that it was overheating, or due to OC'ing, but it does the same thing regardless of temp or CPU speed
i also use 16gb sd card for 3 or 4 months and nothing ever happens like that. everything works perfect...
Have a feeling that it's corrupt, as I have a new problem with installing anything, I now get told there's not enough room to install or updates apps ... when there's plenty ... arrrgggg!
if 16gb isn't working for you, send the card to me. I have a working 2gb you can have instead.
dkelley said:
if 16gb isn't working for you, send the card to me. I have a working 2gb you can have instead.
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Haha that's really funny.
Actually I ran some scans, fsck's and reformats with repair options, and if it wasn't for the reboot issue and instability issues I have with Elelinux 7.0.3 then I'm sure I've got it fixed... I hope ...
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Hi guys
Upgraded to Note 2 N7105 International version 4 weeks ago, great phone and really loving all the features.
Trouble is I bought this because I wanted a more powerful phone than my previous Nexus S, so It could handle more powerful apps and games.
So on top of the internal 16gb of internal memory, I installed a Sandisk 64gb external card to store my apps and games, not realizing the phone does not support moving Apps to SD in standard form.
After investigating, found i could do it with a third party app with root access. So I rooted with Chainfires CF Auto Root, and installed link2sd App. My phone is definitely rooted as I have Titanium Backup working, but when i try to move any Apps to SD it says no free memory, and also to check SD card has been formatted with 2 partitions and they are both set to primary, and on the info page for link2sd its says the same about partitioning
I assume this formatting is my problem as the SD card is virtually empty, just 3 pics and 2 short videos on it, and still showing 59gb free when i go to settings/storage.
If this is my problem, how do I get it formatted correctly, I tried to do it through my computer running XP but only get format command, with no option for Partitions or any thing, are there any programs or procedures you can recommend
Thanks in advance
Gary
GaryFromLondon said:
Hi guys
Upgraded to Note 2 N7105 International version 4 weeks ago, great phone and really loving all the features.
Trouble is I bought this because I wanted a more powerful phone than my previous Nexus S, so It could handle more powerful apps and games.
So on top of the internal 16gb of internal memory, I installed a Sandisk 64gb external card to store my apps and games, not realizing the phone does not support moving Apps to SD in standard form.
After investigating, found i could do it with a third party app with root access. So I rooted with Chainfires CF Auto Root, and installed link2sd App. My phone is definitely rooted as I have Titanium Backup working, but when i try to move any Apps to SD it says no free memory, and also to check SD card has been formatted with 2 partitions and they are both set to primary, and on the info page for link2sd its says the same about partitioning
I assume this formatting is my problem as the SD card is virtually empty, just 3 pics and 2 short videos on it, and still showing 59gb free when i go to settings/storage.
If this is my problem, how do I get it formatted correctly, I tried to do it through my computer running XP but only get format command, with no option for Partitions or any thing, are there any programs or procedures you can recommend
Thanks in advance
Gary
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There is a mod that lets you swap internal memory with sd card. Have a look in this threat.
If you only need to format your sd card to FAT 32 then you should get the GUI version of this app here
SD card format
Thanks for the info Retrorom
Have decided not to go down the internal external memory swap route, for various operational reasons, plus quite a few people seem to be getting issues with it. And the other one didn't seem to have a facility to make your own partitions, which is what i need.
After reading up a bit, From recommendations I have installed a program called Minitool Partition Wizard on my computer.
The only problem now is when i attach the card to the computer, it is showing as only having 27gb of usable memory, whereas in the phone it was showing 59gb. I thought this may be because it needed reformatting, so I formatted on the computer, and it was then only showing 27gb i when inserted in the phone, so i have again reformatted the card in the phone, and again now showing 59gb as it was originally. But i still still only have1 partition, and need 2 for the link2sd program to work
The trouble is when i put the SD back in the the computer it still only shows 27gb that is 32gb short of the 59gb what it shows while in the phone.
Was wondering why this should be, I'm running an old Pentium 4 system with XP on it, would it be that this can not handle or recognise 64 gb cards.
Just to mention i will be upgrading this computer 2 Windows 7 within the next week or so, and also going to build a brand new one in a couple of weeks which will have Windows 7 also , so should be a lot more compatible and flexible if that is the problem
SD Card Format
Update
I've been reading up, and it seems, Windows, especially earlier versions cannot recognize or format SD Cards over 32 gb, something to do with errors in the architecture, which wasn't originally designed for cards of this size.
There is a driver update, to get over this, but negotiating the Microsoft site to download it is proving to be a bit of a mission, It's ridiculously complicated, just sending me round and around in circles to try and find the download.
So if anyone can point me to the download, or a download that will do the job it will be much appreciated
Download exfat support for old XP machine
Download and use file according your XP system 32/64bit
you will get format with exfat format. which support larger size.
Another thing i recommend is 'directory bind' for moving data to ext SD card, this also make hassle free factory reset, Here is guide.
Thanks Ketan
I've already got the exFat support loaded, though it still only shows 27 gb on card
Now looking at the directory bind, and may give that a try later, once I've given it a good read and know i'm not going to do anything wrong .
Will let you know later how it goes
I'm actually surprised the phone supports higher than Windows. Most phones are limited to 32 gb cards are they not?
GaryFromLondon said:
Thanks Ketan
I've already got the exFat support loaded, though it still only shows 27 gb on card
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have you try formating it on PC with exfat support?
UnL33t My Galaxy Note 2 Automatically recognises the higher capacity
Ketan yes I've tried to format on computer with exfat support, but still only shows 27gb, and when i put back in phone it showed 27gb in there too, so had to reformat it in the phone and now showing 59gb as it was originally,
But still showing 27gb when put in computer
I am going to upgrade my XP up to windows 7 in a couple of weeks, and also going to build a new games machine with Windows 7 on in a few weeks too, do you reckon they will have better support for the higher capacity card built in
Hi...
This is my first post here.
I have a problem with my SD Card.
My SDCard: 32GB microSDHC, some application like music player and gallery sometimes can't read file on my ext sd card (but my file manager can do it flawlessly)
Furthermore, sometimes it shows PREPARING SD CARD on top of the screen, although I don't even do anything. I tried to re-mount it again. But the problem still sometime occurs.
This problem started happening when I changed my stock rom to Ressurection Remix, I thought this problem occurred because of the ROM. so I change it to AOSP. But still... the problem still existed. So then, I changed it back to my stock ROM (with restore option in CWM)
But yeah... Nothing happen.
Any idea?
P.S.: Sorry for my bad english.
extSdCard/sdcard 1 issues
I have a Note II N1907 (ATT) running Liquid Smooth with a SanDisk microSD ultra 32gb. I have been trying to figure this issue out since I bought this phone 2 months ago. I screwed up the original card that I transferred from my old phone some how by trying different things to make the phone recognize it. It worked fine in my HTC Vivid. I have root and am able to use root options to try to access this card of installation, but the best I have been able to do is use it for storage. And I have to manually move things to the card, because most apps do not acknowledge that it is there (can't see it). TWRP recovery can see it after I did my first ROM Flash, but I have to use internal memory for my first ROM Flash, because recovery mode was unable to mount extSdCard.
Is there a kernel I can flash to remedy this. I am no developer, but I think the problem is that the internal memory is also SD in type. I have noticed that internal memory shows up as SDcard0 (zero) and the after market sd card is sdcard1. Maybe the phone automatically defaults to the first sdcard and ignores the other (because it is only designed to have one sd card).
I am sure others have hard this problem with this phone. Thank you for any help you can offer..
floykoe said:
I have a Note II N1907 (ATT) running Liquid Smooth with a SanDisk microSD ultra 32gb. I have been trying to figure this issue out since I bought this phone 2 months ago. I screwed up the original card that I transferred from my old phone some how by trying different things to make the phone recognize it. It worked fine in my HTC Vivid. I have root and am able to use root options to try to access this card of installation, but the best I have been able to do is use it for storage. And I have to manually move things to the card, because most apps do not acknowledge that it is there (can't see it). TWRP recovery can see it after I did my first ROM Flash, but I have to use internal memory for my first ROM Flash, because recovery mode was unable to mount extSdCard.
Is there a kernel I can flash to remedy this. I am no developer, but I think the problem is that the internal memory is also SD in type. I have noticed that internal memory shows up as SDcard0 (zero) and the after market sd card is sdcard1. Maybe the phone automatically defaults to the first sdcard and ignores the other (because it is only designed to have one sd card).
I am sure others have hard this problem with this phone. Thank you for any help you can offer..
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As soon as I saw your reply I scanned for the words "Sandisk Ultra" and then I knew this was your issue.
I had a lot of SD card corruption with this brand and searching a lot on the web I found many stories of people having the same issues as I did.
My 32Gb Sandisk Ultra was the cause of many of my problems. 2 months on with a Lexar 32Gb, no problems (touch wood)
Kind of newbie question, but it is not. Some time ago I asked help here because the wildfire s internal memory is not that large (150mb) and S2E was not helping.
The problem-- Internal memory cannot deal with all the apps I do use. But, if i put all the /data on sd card, this would slow down android too much.
First try-- I tried "int2ext+" that leaves /data/data on internal for speed: at first it seemed to work, but in a while the same problems occurred.
Secondo try-- So I tried the other version, "int2ext", that transfers /data/data too, but... sleepy times for my phone.
Right now, I am confused. I wonder how do you people handle this problem... Apart from buying a new phone...
May someone helps me?
Ok...
redlo905 said:
Kind of newbie question, but it is not. Some time ago I asked help here because the wildfire s internal memory is not that large (150mb) and S2E was not helping.
The problem-- Internal memory cannot deal with all the apps I do use. But, if i put all the /data on sd card, this would slow down android too much.
First try-- I tried "int2ext+" that leaves /data/data on internal for speed: at first it seemed to work, but in a while the same problems occurred.
Secondo try-- So I tried the other version, "int2ext", that transfers /data/data too, but... sleepy times for my phone.
Right now, I am confused. I wonder how do you people handle this problem... Apart from buying a new phone...
May someone helps me?
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Well instead of int2ext(which F***ed my rom) flash data2sd.zip after u made the partision in CWM recovery (link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39695479#post39695479) Hope it helps
Good Luck
James
P.S: DONT FORGET TO CREATE THE PARTISION BEFORE FLASHING IT!!!
Thank you, James, I'll give a try with data2sd!
In the meantime, I'd like to understand what is occupying so much space in /data/data .
I believe All the Google Apps and other preinstalled apps that have to be fast (for example phone app, message app and so on)
I remember that MIUI HC 3.2, found on this website, was fast enough. Maybe, as tech grows, apps sets bigger data in /data/data. Anyway, I'm wondering how do you guys handle this problem. Therefore, I suppose I'm doing something wrong myself.
Anyway, this week I'm sadly free. So, I'll give a try.
Try upgrading your sd card to class 10, this will help solve your problem
Maybe is just your SD Card, I've int2ext installed (with cyanogen mod) and a class 6 card. It's a bit slow but I can use the phone with problems. Check your SD card, if there isn't any number printed on it probably you have a class2 o lower...
A good hint. My sd card is class 4, I'll try upgrading anyway. I'll let you know, guys.
Success!
I've bought a samsung SD card 8 giga and class 10. Wiped everything, partitioning, flashing rom with int2ext and... one day after, it seems it's really working: the phone is faster, more responsive.
Even thought, next time i'm buying such a mobile phone, i'll seriously care the internal memory to be larger than 2 giga.
Thank you all, guys!
redlo905 said:
Success!
I've bought a samsung SD card 8 giga and class 10. Wiped everything, partitioning, flashing rom with int2ext and... one day after, it seems it's really working: the phone is faster, more responsive.
Even thought, next time i'm buying such a mobile phone, i'll seriously care the internal memory to be larger than 2 giga.
Thank you all, guys!
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Cool good to hear from you