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Android Mini Collectible

I've tried to find these things in stock since they were released...Just was able to pick one up. They are mini little android collectibles that were licensed by Google
If anyone else is interested Daily Deal has them in stock
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=49323

Shows in stock for me now.

ANDROID MINI COLLECTIBLES SERIES (01-12) in icellphonestore.com

you can buy a whole lot of them here http://s.dealextreme.com/search/android
I bought one a while back and it came, the only problem is that it takes about a month to come in the mail.

focbuster78 said:
you can buy a whole lot of them here http://s.dealextreme.com/search/android
I bought one a while back and it came, the only problem is that it takes about a month to come in the mail.
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but the website is android mini collectibles 01-12 series http://www.icellphonestore.com/Android-mini-collectibles-Series-1-12-Google-Android-Robot

I know Dead Zebra also sells them...but they're out of stock...so....lol
http://shop.deadzebra.com/products/Android-Mini-Series-02.html

Nice find on these!! I bought some on ebay a while ago. I paid almost $20 each for them, I could have practically bought the set instead of three for the same price....

Excuse me if this sounds rude or anything but the dealextreme ones look fake. From what I read, the ANDROID words are suppose to be in the back and are more indented. I've been trying to get the 1st series, but there's just so many fakes out there now. . . ..
OH yeah, the site from deadzebra is the official one, they are the ones that partner up with google to make it. They have a post to show how to spot a fake. I can't link it because I'm a noob though.

@kekoukela i think icellphonestore.com android mini collectibles is genuine ！！

takumiwan said:
@kekoukela i think icellphonestore.com android mini collectibles is genuine ！！
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Stop advertising.

Gotta get me one of these!

I'm going to have to get one of these for the office.

I got a new series two from myplasticheart...I found them at the dysplastic Dead Zebra site
http://www.myplasticheart.com/

If you look around the first link, they have a 2nd series release and a blank do it yourself one.

Just ordered 3 of these woot
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focbuster78 said:
you can buy a whole lot of them here http://s.dealextreme.com/search/android
I bought one a while back and it came, the only problem is that it takes about a month to come in the mail.
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I bought one from this site on the 14th of March, and it came on March 31st.
1st series, and looks legit. "android" on the back and all.
But...I'm not super familiar with what is legit and what's a knockoff. Not that I care either. It's pretty cool regardless.

Getting it in the UK

Hi all,
From all that I have seen it doesn't look like the ZL will be officially available in the UK. As such the options for buying a C6503 model are:
Import from Europe
It's quite expensive at the moment, and the retailer which should have no problems shipping abroad (Amazon) had the highest price of them all last time I checked. I can definitely see this working fine, with the German version having en_GB locale support and playing nicely with the operators.
Import from Asia (ie HK)
From Expansys (http://www.expansys.com.hk/sony-xperia-zl-lte-c6503-unlocked-16gb-black-247249) the total works out cheaper by about £60, with the shipping not being much slower. The other positives are that in HK they use the same power plugs as in the UK (no need to mess with power adaptors), and en_GB would definitely come preloaded as a locale. The only worry is that the manufacturer model quoted is 'AP_C6503_BLK', where the 'AP' stands for the Asia-Pacific version. I'm wondering whether this could have any implications on the hardware and software. I suppose as software goes it should always be possible to reflash it to a German firmware, but I can't help but think that something could be different.
Also found this: http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=21943
Despite coming up on Google Shopping with good reviews, I found other review websites which seemed to suggest the opposite. They also claimed to have had it in stock two or three weeks ago (I've been following this page for a while), when it wasn't even released in Europe. Both of these make me think that this website is a bit dodgy, and make me wonder where the device originally comes from (HK, Germany, Russia?).
I'm seriously inclining towards the second option, but I'm wondering whether anyone around here has previous experience or some information that might be able to help make the best choice.
Thanks.

Amazon Germany and Amazon Italy now have it for circa €560.

Nooo!! do not buy from simply electronics! I had an awful experience and a quick Google will give you the same feedback.
I am in the UK. Love the phone.
I bought mine from eBay from a seller in HK. Took 2 days to arrive via FedEx $599
Seller: jetcodigital
Expect to pay import tax although they did send as a gift with value of $100 so you might be lucky.
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trickyhenry said:
Nooo!! do not buy from simply electronics! I had an awful experience and a quick Google will give you the same feedback.
I am in the UK. Love the phone.
I bought mine from eBay from a seller in HK. Took 2 days to arrive via FedEx $599
Seller: jetcodigital
Expect to pay import tax although they did send as a gift with value of $100 so you might be lucky.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I figured about Simply Electronics.
So presumably the device you have is an Asia-Pacific version. Did you notice any differences or oddities when it came to the software/hardware?
Thanks for the feedback, I haven't actually checked eBay yet but will give it a quick look.

Hi I haven't noticed anything strange yet. Seems like the right version for me. No odd software or anything. I'm using it on three UK. Everything has worked great right out of the box. Very pleased.
Now I can sell my htc ONE. ( ZL camera is better )
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trickyhenry said:
Hi I haven't noticed anything strange yet. Seems like the right version for me. No odd software or anything. I'm using it on three UK. Everything has worked great right out of the box. Very pleased.
Now I can sell my htc ONE. ( ZL camera is better )
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Another 3 uk user here, got my 6503 for ~£500 after shipping and tax from the states seller: never-msrp.
Even works on 3's secret LTE
Only issue is the US AC adapter.

I am gonna buy a white 6503 version from the German site; Cyberport.de
They can send it to several countries and the prices for that aren't that high.
The phone itself will cost you €550,00 and the shipping to the Netherlands (where I live) are only €13,00.
They've got the black version in stock, and the white version (that I want) is gonna be there in several days.
If you want to check out other stores in Germany:
Geizhals.de: black Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: white Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: red Sony Xperia ZL

Well, I ended up buying it from Amazon.de, which worked out to pretty much £500 after shipping and currency conversion. While Expansys.com.hk would have been cheaper, I felt that the European warranty was worth the additional price.
The funny thing is that I ordered yesterday and I should get it tomorrow. Ordering a device which isn't available in the UK, from Amazon.de, and guess what? The device was in the Milton Keynes distribution centre! Seems almost ridiculous, really.

Let us know how you get on.
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CLB-NL said:
I am gonna buy a white 6503 version from the German site; Cyberport.de
They can send it to several countries and the prices for that aren't that high.
The phone itself will cost you €550,00 and the shipping to the Netherlands (where I live) are only €13,00.
They've got the black version in stock, and the white version (that I want) is gonna be there in several days.
If you want to check out other stores in Germany:
Geizhals.de: black Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: white Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: red Sony Xperia ZL
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I would like a white one but love the black one anyway now I have it. I couldn't wait like you...
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trickyhenry said:
I would like a white one but love the black one anyway now I have it. I couldn't wait like you...
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Yeah it will be white for me, only little thing is that the notification led is better to see on the black one I think...
But I don't like the shiny sides of the black one, and when I first saw the white version I fell in love, so that's why.
And I think the notificationbar and bar with the buttons will look better on the white, on the black ZL it looks so greyish.

I got mine today, and man... it sure looks good and feels nice. It feels a bit heavy, compared to my S3, but I'll get used to that. The screen also looks good when looking at it directly, but gets worse as soon as the viewing angle increases. Although I suppose this is a good thing, as other people trying to look at my device shouldn't see as much as on my S3! The bezel on the side looks a bit bigger than on the pictures, but it's not a big deal. Overall when looking at video or pictures fullscreen it looks stunning, since there is so little bezel.
Now, since I'm a power user, I'm wondering whether I want to unlock the bootloader or just root. I actually don't mind Sony's customisations that much (barring Chrome instead of the stock browser, and the standard Gallery app), however if CM becomes stable enough I might put it on. Perhaps just the root for locked bootloaders will be good enough for now.

Nice to know some others in the uk have one. It's an exclusive club!)
Great phone so far for me. No regrets and no disappointment. I feel the same about the viewing angles. I'm stock all the way for once so will enjoy the factory experience.
I'm trialing the battery saving features at the moment. So far today I have had some good results. I'm not one for these features normally but I thought a the phone has had them I would give it a go.
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[Q] So, did your ZL first arrive sealed?

I recently bought a C6503 from a German eBay seller, but it wasn't sealed in any way. More importantly, the phone had clearly been removed at least once from the plastic bag it came in, because there was a dent from the camera on the other side. It had been reinserted the other way around, then sent to me. I returned the phone.
I've now imported another C6503 from phonehouse.de and it too has arrived unsealed - neither the box nor the phone arrived sealed in any way. It mostly looks like it's been untouched. Some unboxing videos on YouTube show sealed versions, others not.
Which was yours? The most important reason for it to be sealed, to me, is because I want to condition the battery before turning the phone on, and if someone has used it before me then there's a chance I won't be able to. Plus, I like new stuff
Was your box sealed? Was the phone sealed in the plastic bag when in the box?

I bought my ZL at Amazon.de and it was not sealed. But I am sure that device was unused. The plastic protector was originally on the phone, also USB cable and earphones were not touched.
I know sometimes the box must be opened to insert local guarantee sheet, manuals, etc. in the box. Sometimes also some local changes are made on the device.
I don't have any troubles with my phone and I am really surprised when I see so many posts where users state their problems. Camera is great, battery life is excellent, scrolling is smooth, really no problems with my ZL, although the package was not sealed.

I got mine from Bell Canada and was sealed with a sony sticker
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Bought mine from eBay and the box was sealed with a Sony sticker.
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Mine was sealed, purchased from Newegg.

Interesting.. so far, all the North American phones have been sealed, but those from Europe (although mine's manufactured in China) were not.

schnidex said:
Interesting.. so far, all the North American phones have been sealed, but those from Europe (although mine's manufactured in China) were not.
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Newegg buys it's Z/ZL from Malaysia.

ryude said:
Newegg buys it's Z/ZL from Malaysia.
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Okay, fair enough. Meanwhile, slightly worrying for me is that when I 'first' turned the phone on today, it booted straight away in German and didn't ask me to select a language or any other setup. It all looked new, but this suspects me to think someone else has turned it on before me. I don't know if there's a way I can check, but I was pretty disappointed by this.
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?

schnidex said:
Okay, fair enough. Meanwhile, slightly worrying for me is that when I 'first' turned the phone on today, it booted straight away in German and didn't ask me to select a language or any other setup. It all looked new, but this suspects me to think someone else has turned it on before me. I don't know if there's a way I can check, but I was pretty disappointed by this.
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?
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The language is determined by the customization, different regions have different customizations. Mine came with English (UK) pre-selected.

Bought mine from eBay (USA) and the box was sealed with a Sony sticker. Model C6503.

mine sealed c6506 usa

schnidex said:
Okay, fair enough. Meanwhile, slightly worrying for me is that when I 'first' turned the phone on today, it booted straight away in German and didn't ask me to select a language or any other setup. It all looked new, but this suspects me to think someone else has turned it on before me. I don't know if there's a way I can check, but I was pretty disappointed by this.
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?
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My ZL was bought at Amazon.de as I told you in my previous post and the box was not sealed, but as I remembered the first thing when I turned the phone on was selecting the language and setup guide ...
In general, I'm also wondering what happens with those products that had been sold through internet sales and later returned by customers and of course already used? Is there any rule that buyer must get completely new device ?

schnidex said:
I'm wondering however if it's a German retail thing, because this is the second order I've had from Germany (from different suppliers) and both were completely unsealed. Perhaps there's a law that requires them to check it boots up before shipping..?
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I don't know about that, I got a Panasonic ELUGA from Germany last year and it was sealed in the box. It had never been booted up.
Sent from my Sony Xperia ZL

Sealed from Indonesia
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sarobi said:
My ZL was bought at Amazon.de as I told you in my previous post and the box was not sealed, but as I remembered the first thing when I turned the phone on was selecting the language and setup guide ...
In general, I'm also wondering what happens with those products that had been sold through internet sales and later returned by customers and of course already used? Is there any rule that buyer must get completely new device ?
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Thank you for this. The phone is probably fine, but for the time being there is doubt in my mind.
I don't suppose anyone knows if there's a system menu I can access that will tell me how many times the phone has been booted? So far, I have only turned it on once, so if that number is anything more than one and can be shown on the system, I will have my answer.
I'd love to keep it, and not have the hassle of returning it, but it's such a lot of money and I want to love my handset 100%, and not have any doubt. It does seem strange that it didn't ask me for the setup guide, and the phone was also already set to vibrate which I thought was strange. Also, the Developer Options were already exposed, but I was of the belief that these need to be enabled by pressing the version number seven times.
The only thing is that I haven't yet put a SIM card in it, so I don't know if that means the phone wouldn't go straight to Setup.

Bought it straight from Sony Shop. That shop also sells other Sony products. Sealed.
C6503 Philippines.
I noticed the Sony Mobile shops here sell unsealed phones. Happen with my former Xperia S. Bought it there unsealed.
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Bought a white one from Amazon.de and whilst the box was sealed the unit itself was defective - the metal around the lens was chipped and the glass side near the camera button was cracked. I sent it back yesterday and will get a refund. When I booted it up, it went straight into the German menu without asking me to choose language.
Anyway, I ordered another ZL (this time black) as I saw a cracking deal on Amazon.it who were charging just €310! Price now back up to €499.

6503 from amazon.de - sealed , brand new, perfect in every respect
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schnidex said:
Thank you for this. The phone is probably fine, but for the time being there is doubt in my mind.
I don't suppose anyone knows if there's a system menu I can access that will tell me how many times the phone has been booted? So far, I have only turned it on once, so if that number is anything more than one and can be shown on the system, I will have my answer.
I'd love to keep it, and not have the hassle of returning it, but it's such a lot of money and I want to love my handset 100%, and not have any doubt. It does seem strange that it didn't ask me for the setup guide, and the phone was also already set to vibrate which I thought was strange. Also, the Developer Options were already exposed, but I was of the belief that these need to be enabled by pressing the version number seven times.
The only thing is that I haven't yet put a SIM card in it, so I don't know if that means the phone wouldn't go straight to Setup.
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Tejstar said:
Bought a white one from Amazon.de and whilst the box was sealed the unit itself was defective - the metal around the lens was chipped and the glass side near the camera button was cracked. I sent it back yesterday and will get a refund. When I booted it up, it went straight into the German menu without asking me to choose language.
Anyway, I ordered another ZL (this time black) as I saw a cracking deal on Amazon.it who were charging just €310! Price now back up to €499.
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If a "new" phone doesn't boot into
setup (language choice) then it is not new! And, obviously, if it's broken in the box and the box is undamaged it's not new! Law is strict, if it is sold as new in product description it should be in factory condition ie. As left factory after fabrication...sealed and not having been switched on!
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stinky73 said:
If a "new" phone doesn't boot into
setup (language choice) then it is not new! And, obviously, if it's broken in the box and the box is undamaged it's not new! Law is strict, if it is sold as new in product description it should be in factory condition ie. As left factory after fabrication...sealed and not having been switched on!
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Exactly my thoughts, which is why I was surprised, since it was ordered direct from Amazon.de and I've never had any 'returns' passed off as a new phone before from them. Anyway, it went straight back as it was clear that either it was already used or someone at the Sony factory didn't do their job properly in passing appropriate QA tests.

Tejstar said:
Exactly my thoughts, which is why I was surprised, since it was ordered direct from Amazon.de and I've never had any 'returns' passed off as a new phone before from them. Anyway, it went straight back as it was clear that either it was already used or someone at the Sony factory didn't do their job properly in passing appropriate QA tests.
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Good luck!! It'll be worth waiting for, but I'd be wary of the 4.2.2 update! Lots having troubles with it in other threads. I have had nothing but grief on many devices ! Out of the box on 4.1.2 easily the best android phone I have ever owned (there have been many ) and I am not going to spoil it with 4.2.2

Network Lock Issue

guy's i'm using a Bravo here in Pakistan, its on 2.2.1 i've rooted with recovery, the issue is that everytime i flash another rom it asks for the "input network pin" prompt and i got no signals and no network, no one can unlock the phone here, but yes on froyo i've got my network, thankfully i restored a backup that i made and i get my network back... any one can help me get my phone fully unlocked so i can flash other roms other than froyo?

I would move this topic from Bravo Android Development over to Bravo General because there is where all of the Q&A topics should go. Just my suggestion, tho.

yes this should be moved, but answering your question @jafferkhan, it happened to me before, it is because you bought an cheap unlock code, everytime you flash it, it will ask for the unlock code, buy the code from another server, I know one that worked for me before, or try direct unlock with sigma key, all this methods are paid services

juancollado2003 said:
yes this should be moved, but answering your question @jafferkhan, it happened to me before, it is because you bought an cheap unlock code, everytime you flash it, it will ask for the unlock code, buy the code from another server, I know one that worked for me before, or try direct unlock with sigma key, all this methods are paid services
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hey juan, thanks for the prompt response, you guys have helped me understand a lot about this phone, yes you're right, i think i will need to get it unlocked, but the entire phone cost me less than 15 dollars here where i am, and i know that it's been softunlocked, to run on 2.2.1 which is why when i upgrade it, it won't unlock, if you can, how to soft unlock it on CM7.2? so i will keep it on that only and it stays unlocked to use it on that

I don't think you could soft unlock this because there is no soft unlock for the Bravo yet like there is for the Defy. Yes, I did suggest you try the Defy soft unlock as a last resort thru PM but it didn't work. Juan seems to know more about this than I do, even I had no idea there was a difference between normal unlock codes and "cheap" ones that only work once. If anything, just find a ROM you would be comfortable staying on and buy another one of those cheap one time use unlock codes Juan talked about in his previous post. I know in my country I have seen cheap unlock codes go for around 2 US Dollars but I don't know how that would translate to Pakistan currency.
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Well @jafferkhan there is not free unlock way for mb520, do you have any web store where I can buy a mb520 by 15usd?

juancollado2003 said:
Well @jafferkhan there is not free unlock way for mb520, do you have any web store where I can buy a mb520 by 15usd?
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If you are interested there is a used Motorola Bravo that is about 55 USA dollars on Amazon (and there's a new version for about 80 USA dollars). It is locked to Consumer Cellular, but it is running 2.2.2 Froyo which a lot of Motorola Bravo developers REALLY REALLY want. You see, most Motorola Bravo phones only run Android 2.2.1 but ONLY CONSUMER CELLULAR VERSIONS RUN ANDROID 2.2.2 SO FINDING ONE WITH 2.2.2 IS VERY RARE AND VERY SOUGHT AFTER. Here is a link to the Amazon product page:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1688200382&pf_rd_i=507846
EDIT: I actually made a mistake. The one for 50 USA dollars is actually not used, it is new as well.
If you were to get this and it is running 2.2.2 Froyo as its Android version, me and the rest of the Motorola Bravo fans out there would ask you to first perform a system dump of all the Android 2.2.2 files before replacing the Android version with another ROM. To see what I am talking about with the whole Android 2.2.2 on Motorola Bravo thing (and to learn how to perform a system dump as well) take a look at this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2200602

@jasonmerc 55usd is too high, you can buy an atrix by 60

It was the lowest price I have seen for this phone anywhere. He told me he bought his phone in Pakistan where he is, and he said he bought it off of some guy and not on an online service like Amazon. So when it comes to buying one where you are (Santo Domingo) an online service might be your only easy option to buying a phone.

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Well @jafferkhan there is not free unlock way for mb520, do you have any web store where I can buy a mb520 by 15usd?
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jason answered your question before me ... thanks jase, but yeah i got it here from a dude who imports these phones and sells them cheap, i got it for very cheap since it was in a rough condition, almost for free but since i've been using it, it's a very capable small cute phone, here you can get it for as low as 20 in good condition, and yeah an atrix HD for like 70 dollars here

Can China Version Can Be Flashed?

I am planning to purchase the Lava Red version which is only sold in China. Judging from the Chinese specs page, it appears the difference is the OS? So that means the bootloader may be unlocked, I can flash a custom ROM or kernel from XDA, and basically use it as if I had the international version correct?

Of course it can. I'm also buy the red lava version from Shenzen, China. The ROM itself is Hydrogen OS and I flash Oxygen OS. For tutorials, you can check it out at this link : http://downloads.oneplus.net/
Default bootloader is locked.

geokilla said:
I am planning to purchase the Lava Red version which is only sold in China. Judging from the Chinese specs page, it appears the difference is the OS? So that means the bootloader may be unlocked, I can flash a custom ROM or kernel from XDA, and basically use it as if I had the international version correct?
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What do they charge for shipping to U.S.? Do you pay customs too?

I bought an International Red OP5T 8GB/128GB from GearBest,it has Oxygen OS installed,YMMV if bought else where:
https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_1460037.html?wid=21
I paid a lot less than current pricing.
If you subscribe/open a GearBest account & receive promotional e-mails,you'll see some special e-mail subscriber only pricing on the OP5T every 2-3 days.
FWIW,I paid $549.99 USD for my Red OP5T (I opted for express DHL shipping,added about $9.50 USD to the total cost,no other taxes or fees to the US) ........................

KOLIOSIS said:
I bought an International Red OP5T 8GB/128GB from GearBest,it has Oxygen OS installed,YMMV if bought else where:
https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_1460037.html?wid=21
I paid a lot less than current pricing.
If you subscribe/open a GearBest account & receive promotional e-mails,you'll see some special e-mail subscriber only pricing on the OP5T every 2-3 days.
FWIW,I paid $549.99 USD for my Red OP5T (I opted for express DHL shipping,added about $9.50 USD to the total cost,no other taxes or fees to the US) ........................
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why are these cheaper?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...udlo=200&_udhi=500&_nkw=OnePlus+5T+red&_sop=2

entwicklun said:
why are these cheaper?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_...udlo=200&_udhi=500&_nkw=OnePlus+5T+red&_sop=2
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They're cheaper than what?
Not cheaper than what I paid...... to the contrary a bit more.
The 1st one I see in this link is an auction, not an actual selling price.....
As I mentioned, you'll get email only specials if you sign up for GearBest/open an account.
Otherwise, you will see higher pricing.
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KOLIOSIS said:
They're cheaper than what?
Not cheaper than what I paid...... to the contrary a bit more.
The 1st one I see in this link is an auction, not an actual selling price.....
As I mentioned, you'll get email only specials if you sign up for GearBest/open an account.
Otherwise, you will see higher pricing.
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ok im all signed up. atm it's 755usd. if the discount and so on is all applied it'll come down to 400gpb (50gpb cheaper than those ebay ones) or 550usd near your price.
if i got that for 400gpb id be so happy. because the standard ones we can find for about 360gpb. only 40gpb or 55usd more for the red!!
thank you man, so i should just wait now for their emails. id wait a couple of weeks no problem.
just to confirm, these red ones are all the same model/version. they can all be rooted and custom rom?
also the finger print scanner on back is liek google pixel, just a scanner, not a power button like LG v20, v30, g6 etc? how do you find that? I had the lg v20 and I thought it was the best phone at the time ever (i came from samsung notes before they screwed up the note series and then put the rear sensors too high for my puny hands lol.....) as in I like the finger scanner and power as one. sometimes annoying to turn off phone screen though, thats why i think i'll like the oneplus 5t because the power button is separate, also i like that mute, vibrate and sound button, great feature without unlocking phone.
but the oneplus 6 is being announced in march? i could wait, but i kinda need a work phone now

entwicklun said:
ok im all signed up. atm it's 755usd. if the discount and so on is all applied it'll come down to 400gpb (50gpb cheaper than those ebay ones) or 550usd near your price.
if i got that for 400gpb id be so happy. because the standard ones we can find for about 360gpb. only 40gpb or 55usd more for the red!!
thank you man, so i should just wait now for their emails. id wait a couple of weeks no problem.
just to confirm, these red ones are all the same model/version. they can all be rooted and custom rom?
also the finger print scanner on back is liek google pixel, just a scanner, not a power button like LG v20, v30, g6 etc? how do you find that? I had the lg v20 and I thought it was the best phone at the time ever (i came from samsung notes before they screwed up the note series and then put the rear sensors too high for my puny hands lol.....)
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You won't have to wait long for the emails to start rolling in, I get two every day like clockwork.
I've seen the OP5T on about 3-4 emails in the past 10 days or so. Ordered mine about a week - ten days ago, it arrived Thursday (1-7-18).
The FPR is just that, not a combination power button. The power button & SIM tray are on the right side, volume & mute on the left.
It shipped with OOS 7.1.1, Google Services on board, Bootloader locked.
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You won't have to wait long for the emails to start rolling in, I get two every day like clockwork.
I've seen the OP5T on about 3-4 emails in the past 10 days or so. Ordered mine about a week - ten days ago, it arrived Thursday (1-7-18).
The FPR is just that, not a combination power button. The power button & SIM tray are on the right side, volume & mute on the left.
It shipped with OOS 7.1.1, Google Services on board, Bootloader locked.
Sent from my OnePlus5T using XDA Labs
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It shipped with OOS 7.1.1, Google Services on board, Bootloader locked.
what exactly does that mean, whats good about oxygen compared to the other?
also google services onboard means what exactly? and bootlocker locked means it's locked, does that mean we have to get trwp or someone to unlock the bootloader?
sorry for being hopeless lol

entwicklun said:
It shipped with OOS 7.1.1, Google Services on board, Bootloader locked.
what exactly does that mean, whats good about oxygen compared to the other?
also google services onboard means what exactly? and bootlocker locked means it's locked, does that mean we have to get trwp or someone to unlock the bootloader?
sorry for being hopeless lol
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This is beginning to go off-topic.....
Take a look around the OP5T forum & Google search for answers to these questions,especially for Bootloader Unlocking / TWRP.
Regarding Google services on board, it means just that:
Phones solely intended for use in China do not have Google services installed. The international models do.
If you want to use anything Google related, buy an international model,unless sideloading/Bootloader unlocking/etc..... are 2nd nature to you.
If all of this is new to you, I highly suggest doing the same searches on YouTube, the how-to videos are a great tool to use.....
Sent from my OnePlus5T using XDA Labs

KOLIOSIS said:
This is beginning to go off-topic.....
Take a look around the OP5T forum & Google search for answers to these questions,especially for Bootloader Unlocking / TWRP.
Regarding Google services on board, it means just that:
Phones solely intended for use in China do not have Google services installed. The international models do.
If you want to use anything Google related, buy an international model,unless sideloading/Bootloader unlocking/etc..... are 2nd nature to you.
If all of this is new to you, I highly suggest doing the same searches on YouTube, the how-to videos are a great tool to use.....
Sent from my OnePlus5T using XDA Labs
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im confused, you say if i want a custom rom etc i need to go non international. what about the last post here. how has he got the red and with a custom rom?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/help/oneplus-5t-lava-red-t3719808/page2
ohhhh because the international doesnt come on oreo, it comes on oxy and the other OS? twrp is on oreo

entwicklun said:
im confused, you say if i want a custom rom etc i need to go non international. what about the last post here. how has he got the red and with a custom rom?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/help/oneplus-5t-lava-red-t3719808/page2
ohhhh because the international doesnt come on oreo, it comes on oxy and the other OS? twrp is on oreo
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No,that isn't what I said or inferred:
I merely suggested getting an International version since it has Google services installed.
Apparently,either version can be bootloader unlocked & have TWRP/Root/ROMs.
Here's where to go,I suggest reading the stickied threads at a bare minimum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3704592
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-mirrors-official-oxygen-os-t3708099
Any aftermarket/3rd party ROMs can be found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/development

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No,that isn't what I said or inferred:
I merely suggested getting an International version since it has Google services installed.
Apparently,either version can be bootloader unlocked & have TWRP/Root/ROMs.
Here's where to go,I suggest reading the stickied threads at a bare minimum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3704592
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-mirrors-official-oxygen-os-t3708099
Any aftermarket/3rd party ROMs can be found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/development
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Thank you mate.
oh wow, oneplus guys make it so thorough, other guys don't explain in that kind of detail with pictures. I wish everyone did it like this, I'm just not quite that savvy to always remember how to do these, especially on different devices.
can't wait to get my hands on a red 5t and get into it! xD

KOLIOSIS said:
No,that isn't what I said or inferred:
I merely suggested getting an International version since it has Google services installed.
Apparently,either version can be bootloader unlocked & have TWRP/Root/ROMs.
Here's where to go,I suggest reading the stickied threads at a bare minimum:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3704592
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/oneplus-5t-mirrors-official-oxygen-os-t3708099
Any aftermarket/3rd party ROMs can be found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/development
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£444.08 atm or 615 for the red. + 3% cash back bringing it down a few more bucks. I might get it soon!!!! xD

entwicklun said:
£444.08 atm or 615 for the red. + 3% cash back bringing it down a few more bucks. I might get it soon!!!! xD
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That's roughly the same I'm seeing in USD when referencing the email I used to buy mine about two weeks ago:

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That's roughly the same I'm seeing in USD when referencing the email I used to buy mine about two weeks ago:
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nice my man! I can't wait. always love a new phone hahaha.
any general oneplus tips? things you couldn't go without if you changed phones? neat stuff for a oneplus virgin?

entwicklun said:
nice my man! I can't wait. always love a new phone hahaha.
any general oneplus tips? things you couldn't go without if you changed phones? neat stuff for a oneplus virgin?
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I switch phones a lot,so,I'm probably the worst person to ask,LOL.
Outside of owning the predecessor,the OP5,for a couple weeks ( I switch phones a lot.....& often ) ,I've been away from OnePlus since their Original 1+1,a lot has changed since then............
Most new phones no longer have some of the features many of us grew accustomed to (Removable Battery/SD Card slot/I-R Blaster/Dual Front-facing speakers).
Those things aside,this phone,IMHO,hardly needs much,if anything done to it.
My one recommendation would be to use it as-is,explore the features/settings it ships with before diving in to the ROM scene.
I'm rollin' w/stock OOS Android 8.0 beta ATM, at least for a month or so,before I dive in to the modding scene.
@entwicklun
Here's a couple videos,one straight from OnePlus,glad I took a look myself:

Good idea I'll go stock for awhile and get accustomed! Nice find.
I had an iPhone 3 back in the day. the one thing I miss from IOS is their magnifying glass when you try to correct a typo, you press and hold on a word and it'll zoom in then you drag to where you want the cursor to be. it's so damn faster than android stock gotta constantly click exactly at characters to delete a letter or pinch my screen to bloody zoom in.
Samsung and LG don't do the zoom in stock or android I don't think. it looks like this : and can we do it on oneplus or do you know something we can flash? I don't think it's an app. I think it's in the os or rom?
https://images.techhive.com/images/...nifying-glass-for-cursor_4-100688054-orig.jpg

entwicklun said:
Good idea I'll go stock for awhile and get accustomed! Nice find.
I had an iPhone 3 back in the day. the one thing I miss from IOS is their magnifying glass when you try to correct a typo, you press and hold on a word and it'll zoom in then you drag to where you want the cursor to be. it's so damn faster than android stock gotta constantly click exactly at characters to delete a letter or pinch my screen to bloody zoom in.
Samsung and LG don't do the zoom in stock or android I don't think. it looks like this : and can we do it on oneplus or do you know something we can flash? I don't think it's an app. I think it's in the os or rom?
https://images.techhive.com/images/...nifying-glass-for-cursor_4-100688054-orig.jpg
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Google Search is your friend..............................
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-get-an-iPhone-like-keyboard-on-Android_id60914

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Google Search is your friend..............................
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-get-an-iPhone-like-keyboard-on-Android_id60914
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hmm lol. thanks
check the link below, i emailed and they ship out the international version. check out the price!
https://www1.techinthebasket.com/oneplus-5t-a5010-8gb-ram-128gb-rom-dual-sim-red.html